[NTG-context] Use \framedtext to write an algorithm (again)
Hi Wolfgang,
You offered me the following code to write algorithms. It seems that this
does not function very well because the withdrawal of the text no longer
exists.
Thank you
Fabrice
\defineframedtext
[algorithmframe]
[width=fit,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=lightgray,
framecolor=darkred,
corner=round]
\definelines
[algorithm]
[space=on,
before=\startalgorithmframe,
after=\stopalgorithmframe]
\starttext
\startalgorithm
Variables \math{I} et \math{J} entiers
T tableau d'entiers
Début
Pour \math{I} allant de \math{1} à \math{3}
Pour \math{J} allant de \math{1} à \math{3}
Si \math{J>I}
Alors \math{T[I, J]=J-I}
Sinon \math{T[I, J]=0}
Fin Si
Fin Pour
Fin
\stopalgorithm
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 17/10/2018 11:10, Alan Braslau wrote: On 17/10/2018 11:05, Hans Hagen wrote: And compare it to sizing dogs or so ... what do you measure? Its tail or its legs. Of course, horses are measured in "hands"... Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 17/10/2018 11:05, Hans Hagen wrote: And compare it to sizing dogs or so ... what do you measure? Its tail or its legs. Or, for Arthur: neck circumference, arm length, shirttail length, shoulder width, waist size, ... Alan ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 10/17/2018 6:14 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: On 10/17/18 11:02 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: [...] It’s less clear what you’re trying to do next: [...] What are you trying to demonstrate with this? If you change the size of the font, obviously the glyphs have different sizes. The initial size at \starttext is 12pt, then \tfxx and \tfd change the sizes, to 8pt and 20.736pt respectively. Hence the former looks quite small in the box, and the latter looks very large. All that’s perfectly normal, and since you’re not changing the font, or even the glyph, it’s not a good illustration of the points raised in your initial email. I tried to show that the em square is the fixed measure. But the glyphs may relate in different ways to that square. I know that \tfxx and \tfd are different sizes. But there would be nothing against taking each of them to develop a new font (at 12 points) with their diverse glyph sizes. Or am I missing something. I don't understand what you issue is. Each font (size) has its own emwidth. Why design a \tfxx ? Of course, there are fonts with multiple designsizes but if that is the case then shapes differ (just compare 5pt 7pt 10pt latin modern) but 'develop a new font' is often quite some effort (esp now that we have unicode fonts). The issue with units per em is something I didn’t understand. That’s irrelevant for you as a font user. Don’t worry about it. A user that asks why different fonts have glyphs with different sizes given the same point for both, doesn’t remain a font user anymore. Just explain that it's design side. And compare it to sizing dogs or so ... what do you measure? Its tail or its legs. (I only wanted to understand, in order to be able to illustrate other people.) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella
On 10/17/2018 6:17 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: On 10/17/18 11:48 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:31:42AM +0200, Tomas Hala wrote: Hans, thank you for the explanation, I agree, I did not like that cyrillic, too. Does somebody know whether TeXGyre team plans some additions of cyrillic to their font collection? The core team gave up on the idea of doing it themselves over ten years ago and they’ve already have bad experiences with one previous contributor (the one who made the glyphs they decided to remove), so I suppose the answer to your question is “no” ;-) Arthur, do you know if the new Greek glyphs will be extended to support polytonic Greek? Given the projects objective and the timeline it's unlikely to happen soon. It also doesn't help that greek nor cyrillic users are participating in the project. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Splitting long floats
On 10/17/2018 5:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
Dear list,
motivated by https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/455484 I was trying
to split a long float across several pages. It also works but instead
of the caption I see “there is nothing to split” at the end of the
listing. The source file documentation of \splitfloat suggests that
this is intended for tabular material. Is is possible to split other
material as well?
A splitter has to talk to the split mechanism ...
% goes into cont-new.mkiv
\unprotect
\def\handlesplittext#1%
{\setbox\tsplitresult\vbox
{\vsplit\tsplitcontent to \dimexpr#1-\lineheight\relax}}
\unexpanded\def\startsplittext
{\begingroup
\resettsplit
\let\tsplitminimumfreelines\!!zerocount
\let\tsplitminimumfreespace\!!zeropoint
\let\extrasplitfloatlines \!!plusone
\let\tsplitdirectsplitter \handlesplittext
\setbox\tsplitcontent\vbox\bgroup
\insidefloattrue}
\unexpanded\def\stopsplittext
{\egroup
\handledirecttsplit
\endgroup}
\protect
\usemodule[scite]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu,8pt]
\starttext
\splitfloat
{\placefigure{some caption}}
{\startsplittext
\typefile[option=TEX,before=,after=]{oeps.tex}
\stopsplittext}
\stoptext
Cheers, Henri
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\starttext
\startplacelisting[title={math.h},location=split]
\typefile{/usr/include/math.h}
\stopplacelisting
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella
On 10/17/18 11:48 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:31:42AM +0200, Tomas Hala wrote: >> Hans, thank you for the explanation, I agree, I did not like that cyrillic, >> too. >> >> Does somebody know whether TeXGyre team plans some additions of cyrillic to >> their font collection? > > The core team gave up on the idea of doing it themselves over ten > years ago and they’ve already have bad experiences with one previous > contributor (the one who made the glyphs they decided to remove), so I > suppose the answer to your question is “no” ;-) Arthur, do you know if the new Greek glyphs will be extended to support polytonic Greek? Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 10/17/18 11:13 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > [...] > Nice to/must have : > > Fonts & Encodings > Book by Yannis Haralambous > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/ > and pdf at > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opbuildpdf/TOC.pdf?branch=live Many thanks for the references, Luigi. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 10/17/18 11:02 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > [...] > It’s less clear what you’re trying to do next: >> [...] > What are you trying to demonstrate with this? If you change the size > of the font, obviously the glyphs have different sizes. The initial > size at \starttext is 12pt, then \tfxx and \tfd change the sizes, to 8pt > and 20.736pt respectively. Hence the former looks quite small in the > box, and the latter looks very large. All that’s perfectly normal, and > since you’re not changing the font, or even the glyph, it’s not a good > illustration of the points raised in your initial email. I tried to show that the em square is the fixed measure. But the glyphs may relate in different ways to that square. I know that \tfxx and \tfd are different sizes. But there would be nothing against taking each of them to develop a new font (at 12 points) with their diverse glyph sizes. Or am I missing something. >> The issue with units per em is something I didn’t understand. > > That’s irrelevant for you as a font user. Don’t worry about it. A user that asks why different fonts have glyphs with different sizes given the same point for both, doesn’t remain a font user anymore. (I only wanted to understand, in order to be able to illustrate other people.) Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On 10/17/18 12:59 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 10/16/2018 7:48 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > >> I tried to experiment (modifying TeX Gyre Pagella from 1000 to >> UPM), but for some reason, I wasn’t able to load the font. > Messing with such value is asking for problems and you can be sure that > I won't waste time on looking issues resulting from it. I didn’t intend that. I only included two commands (not a complete sample), because I thought I might be not invoking them right. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Splitting long floats
Dear list,
motivated by https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/455484 I was trying
to split a long float across several pages. It also works but instead
of the caption I see “there is nothing to split” at the end of the
listing. The source file documentation of \splitfloat suggests that
this is intended for tabular material. Is is possible to split other
material as well?
Cheers, Henri
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\definefloat[listing]
\starttext
\startplacelisting[title={math.h},location=split]
\typefile{/usr/include/math.h}
\stopplacelisting
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:31:42AM +0200, Tomas Hala wrote: > Hans, thank you for the explanation, I agree, I did not like that cyrillic, > too. > > Does somebody know whether TeXGyre team plans some additions of cyrillic to > their font collection? The core team gave up on the idea of doing it themselves over ten years ago and they’ve already have bad experiences with one previous contributor (the one who made the glyphs they decided to remove), so I suppose the answer to your question is “no” ;-) Best, Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella
Hans, thank you for the explanation, I agree, I did not like that cyrillic, too. Does somebody know whether TeXGyre team plans some additions of cyrillic to their font collection? Tomáš Fri, Oct 12, 2018 ve 07:27:50PM +0200 Hans Hagen napsal(a): # On 10/12/2018 5:05 PM, Tomas Hala wrote: # # >On my disk I have got also one older version (1.011) of pagella (I do not where I took it from) # >which contains more(!) characters than the current one (2.004) where eg. the subset of cyrillic characters is missing... # >Why the newer version contains less? # # (1) cyrillic was bad and no one cared to check it so it was removed # (2) the latest version should have many symbols added (post texlive) # # Hans # # # # - # Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE # Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands #tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl # - Tomáš Hála Mendelova univerzita, Provozně ekonomická fakulta, ústav informatiky Zemědělská 1, CZ-613 00 Brno, tel. +420 545 13 22 28 http://akela.mendelu.cz/~thala ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:51 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/15/18 10:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>> [...] > >>> If two fonts have the same size, I think there may be a dimension which > >>> has the same length in both. Which one is this? > >> > >> None. The font decides about its size. > > actually, the designer ... anyway, one can compare 10pt dejavu with 10pt > > latin modern and 10pt lucida and you'll see that there is no real > > standard in size > > Many thanks for your reply, Hans. > > I thought that I was missing something. For sure, but it was the > explanation why there is no standarization in size. > Nice to/must have : Fonts & Encodings Book by Yannis Haralambous https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/ and pdf at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opbuildpdf/TOC.pdf?branch=live -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> I cannot claim that I understand his explanation, but it seems that
> there is something about the em quad
The em quad has the same width as the font size, that’s correct. But
it still doesn’t mean that any part of any glyph in the font has that
length. It’s really a tautology, actually: if you take a font at size,
say, 12pt, then the em space is 12pt wide. That’s the definition (at
least in the TeX world).
It’s less clear what you’re trying to do next:
> \setupframed
> [offset=none,
> framecolor=red,
> rulethickness=0.01pt,
> width=12pt,
> height=12pt]
>
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=1em]
> \framed{M}
> \framed{\tfxx M}
> \framed{\tfd M}
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
What are you trying to demonstrate with this? If you change the size
of the font, obviously the glyphs have different sizes. The initial
size at \starttext is 12pt, then \tfxx and \tfd change the sizes, to 8pt
and 20.736pt respectively. Hence the former looks quite small in the
box, and the latter looks very large. All that’s perfectly normal, and
since you’re not changing the font, or even the glyph, it’s not a good
illustration of the points raised in your initial email.
> The issue with units per em is something I didn’t understand.
That’s irrelevant for you as a font user. Don’t worry about it.
Best,
Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?
Am Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:07:38 +0200 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer: > I quite liked the idea of the font itself deciding on its size, of its > own free will ;-) ;-) That's an application of Gödel's incompleteness theorems: with some level of complexity and lookups strange loops und true but unproveable statements about the font appear and then it clearly has its how free will. Or shorter: you no longer can really understand what it is doing ... -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Odd/even page test
Hello Pablo,
that's it, thank you!
Lukas
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:58:04 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
On 10/16/18 4:25 PM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:
Hello,
I need to check whether even or odd page is to be printed. I'm starting with
the following simple code:
\def\T{\ifodd\pagenumber ODD\else EVEN\fi}
\starttext
\dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
\startTEXpage[width=50mm,height=150mm]\stopTEXpage
\dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
\stoptext
Hi Lukáš,
both makeups and fitting pages aren’t numbered by default.
Either you add this to the preamble:
\setupfittingpage[TEXpage][pagestate=start]
or you add the option "pagestate=start" to \startTEXpage.
I hope it helps,
Pablo
Why "user defined page" #3 is skipped in page numbering, so headers shown are:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 3 - 4 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text is "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) -
"ODD" - "EVEN"
instead of:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 4 - 5 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text be "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) -
"EVEN" - "ODD"?
TIA.
Best regards,
Lukas
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