Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

2021-10-01 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/1/2021 11:43 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Sorry, Denis and I agreed to postpone it one week and meet on October _12th_, 
same time.
I’ll send a reminder.

so far that is ok (but i definitely ned to be reminded)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Dumb question about ligatures

2021-10-01 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/2/2021 12:35 AM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote:

On 21 Sep 2021, at 02:47, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context  
wrote:


I'm using a TTF file that has no ligature capability as a built-in feature. It 
does however have glyphs for fi and fl but ConTeXt isn't substituting them.

So the question is: what do I need to do to persuade ConTeXt to do fi & fl 
ligature substitution?


Any suggestions please? Is a font features file the 'right' way? I would have 
thought that there was a more traditional solution
you can write your own feature (examplex in test suite and manuals) 
where you map f + f onto ff


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Re: [NTG-context] Dumb question about ligatures

2021-10-01 Thread Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
On 21 Sep 2021, at 02:47, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context  
wrote:
> 
> I'm using a TTF file that has no ligature capability as a built-in feature. 
> It does however have glyphs for fi and fl but ConTeXt isn't substituting them.
> 
> So the question is: what do I need to do to persuade ConTeXt to do fi & fl 
> ligature substitution?

Any suggestions please? Is a font features file the 'right' way? I would have 
thought that there was a more traditional solution
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

2021-10-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Sorry, Denis and I agreed to postpone it one week and meet on October _12th_, 
same time.
I’ll send a reminder.

Since there was not much interest, it wouldn’t make sense to start without him.

And yes, you just open that URL*,
agree to the privacy terms (yellow button, in case it comes up in German),
enter your name and confirm ("start" or "participate", depending on if you’re 
the first),
confirm you want to enter with microphone.

Try it any time, just not this sunday evening.

* should work with most modern browsers, i.e. Firefox, Chrome/Chromium, Opera, 
Edge;
Safari doesn’t recognize my camera

See you soon,
Hraban


> Am 01.10.2021 um 21:22 schrieb Alain Delmotte via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> OK for me.
> 
> What is the way to attend: just log to 
> https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke ??
> 
> Thanks for the proposal,
> 
> Alain
> 
> Le 30/09/2021 à 21:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :
>> Ok, how about Tuesday (October 5th) at 15:00 CEST (11:00 EDT, 21:00 SGT)?
>> 
>> Hraban
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 29.09.2021 um 07:09 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context 
>>> 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think a regular online meetup would be great, and I agree with Hans that 
>>> some way to collect topics would be nice. Re Time: I'd prefer Mo-Thursday 
>>> during regular working hours (Central European Time), but maybe that should 
>>> be offered at different times to accomodate for different needs?
>>> 
>>> Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

2021-10-01 Thread Alain Delmotte via ntg-context

  
  
OK for me.
What is the way to attend: just log to
  https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
  ??
Thanks for the proposal,
Alain

Le 30/09/2021 à 21:52, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  Ok, how about Tuesday (October 5th) at 15:00 CEST (11:00 EDT, 21:00 SGT)?

Hraban


  
Am 29.09.2021 um 07:09 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context :

Hi,

I think a regular online meetup would be great, and I agree with Hans that some way to collect topics would be nice. Re Time: I'd prefer Mo-Thursday during regular working hours (Central European Time), but maybe that should be offered at different times to accomodate for different needs?

Denis

  
  
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[NTG-context] Running the examples from METAFUN-p

2021-10-01 Thread Alain Delmotte via ntg-context

  
  
Hi!
I am looking to METAFUN and I wanted
to follow the Growing Graphics demonstration (page 314-- ).
I copied the instructions and
everything went OK up to page 320; the command to place the
figure with a button returns an error:


  \stopoverlay}}


 1
  >> %% !TeX program = ConTeXt 
 2 
 3 
 4
  \starttext
 5 
 6
  \startbuffer[a]
 7 def
  start_everything = enddef ;
 8 def
  stop_everything = enddef ;
 9
  \stopbuffer
10 
11
  \startbuffer[b]
The
  control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message
  was never
\def'ed.
  You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

  It looks like \stopoverlay is not known!!! but \startoverlay is
  recognised!


Alain


  

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Re: [NTG-context] running tikz

2021-10-01 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 10/1/2021 11:36 AM, Henri Menke via ntg-context wrote:


When I last looked at it about a year ago it was completely unusable
with the LuaTeX driver because position tracking primitives were
removed (\pdflastxpos, \pdflastypos) and box keywords had changed
(\hbox dir TRT). Some catcode trickery in pgfplots also had stopped
working (https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgfplots/pull/353).


keep in mind that luatex has no \pdf prefixes (i added these for usage 
like tikz but we have other ones in context)


in context we always used the 'direction' keyword because when we 
dropped many directions from luatex these weird three letter ones made 
no sense (basically they were sort of used as three constructor elements 
but that model was already dropped)


anyway, as i mentioned, somehow the intenet triggers exageration: 
'competely unueable' is also one of these 'move to bottom of todo list' 
things



As Hans mentioned in another message, the PDF resource management has
changed (if I understand it correctly), so things like shadings and
patterns would have to be adjusted.
nothing changed there (also because we never really used the engines 
stuff) ut any resource managament has to be intercaces to any macro package


that said: i have a few tikz test files and when they run ok it's fine 
for me ... if something fails users can ask on the list (with a mnew) 
and when they don't ... no reason to complain


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Re: [NTG-context] running tikz

2021-10-01 Thread Henri Menke via ntg-context
On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 14:52 -0400, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Henri Menke via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 11:57 +0200, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > I would like to use tikz to benefit of the package "pgf-soroban"
> > > I
> > > did write for LaTeX (after adapting it and before, later, to
> > > translate it to metapost).
> > > 
> > > I did try the sample program from the tikz manual, but I get an
> > > error
> > > saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not found; but it is in the tree of
> > > ConTeXt-lmtx.
> > > 
> > > How to make all the files in the distribution known to the
> > > compiler?
> > 
> > 
> > Note that there is currently no proper support for LMTX in
> > PGF/TikZ.
> > 
> > https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990
> 
> Interesting... it seems that only a few features don't work. I
> regularly use pgfplots, and haven't noticed any compatibility issues
> in my examples.
> 
> What will be needed to add a LMTX "driver" for TikZ? Porting pgfsys-
> luatex.def to pgfsys-luametatex.def? Or is something else also
> needed?

Yes, there would have to be a pgfsys-luametatex.def and some detection
code to switch the driver appropriately but that latter part is easy.
I'm not too sure what is needed for the former though for LMTX.

When I last looked at it about a year ago it was completely unusable
with the LuaTeX driver because position tracking primitives were
removed (\pdflastxpos, \pdflastypos) and box keywords had changed
(\hbox dir TRT). Some catcode trickery in pgfplots also had stopped
working (https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgfplots/pull/353).

As Hans mentioned in another message, the PDF resource management has
changed (if I understand it correctly), so things like shadings and
patterns would have to be adjusted.

Cheers, Henri

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Re: [NTG-context] running tikz

2021-10-01 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/30/2021 8:52 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote:

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Henri Menke via ntg-context wrote:


On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 11:57 +0200, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context
wrote:

Hi!

I would like to use tikz to benefit of the package "pgf-soroban" I
did write for LaTeX (after adapting it and before, later, to
translate it to metapost).

I did try the sample program from the tikz manual, but I get an error
saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not found; but it is in the tree of
ConTeXt-lmtx.

How to make all the files in the distribution known to the compiler?



Note that there is currently no proper support for LMTX in PGF/TikZ.

https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990


Nowdays exagerating remarks like "lots of ..." just like "many buge ..." 
and "completely broken ..." and some more make me put something at the 
bottom of my list cq. dismiss.



Interesting... it seems that only a few features don't work. I regularly use 
pgfplots, and haven't noticed any compatibility issues in my examples.

What will be needed to add a LMTX "driver" for TikZ? Porting pgfsys-luatex.def 
to pgfsys-luametatex.def? Or is something else also needed?
I don't know. If you send me the examplex that don't work I can check 
it. I suppose that it there is a well defined interface layer we can 
provide the connection and maintain that in the context distribution. 
And we can also just decide that some features are not supported (for 
instance because they interfere with context resource management).


Hans

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