[NTG-context] \placeinitial problem

2023-07-16 Thread Alan Bowen
Hi—
\placeinitial seems to fail when there is a footnote in the paragraph. At
least

\startparagraph
\placeinitial \input ward \footnote{A footnote.}
\stopparagraph


only works when the footnote is commented out.

I am running lmtx [ConTeXt  ver: 2023.06.22  LMTX  fmt: 2023.6.26]

Alan
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[NTG-context] Re: \hidewidth disappeared

2023-07-16 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
> \hidewidth is a plain tex thing that is unlikely to work well with other code

With all respect, I do not understand why it can cause problems and "is 
unlikely to work well". 
It is no surprise that in TeX you can cause havoc by using things unwisely or 
in the wrong place (and I have enough experience with this;-). By using things 
the burden to use them well falls onto the programmer, of course.

Given \hidewidth's body is \hskip\hideskip:
\hskip I would sorely miss and \hideskip is nothing more than a register set by 
Knuth to -1000pt plus1fill.

I am open for further enlightment and not too old to learn.

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer



> On 16 Jul 2023, at 14:08, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> On 7/16/2023 1:31 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:
>> What happened to \hidewidth? It looks as if it disappeared. See the 
>> accompanying MWE.
>> However, searching the ConTeXt source I find it used in enco-ini.mkiv, 
>> defined in syst-ini.mkiv, but commented out in syst-ini.mkxl.
>> Why is that? It seems a harmless definition, and its body is even used twice 
>> in enco-ini.mkxl.
>> I dare say, with all due respect, it is not pleasant (and a waste of time) 
>> to find working code suddenly broken because of leftout macro's. And I feel 
>> lucky to not having used \ialign, because something similar happened to it.
> \hidewidth is a plain tex thing that is unlikely to work well with other code
> 
> \ialign is also something plain and as it sets everycr as well as tabskip and 
> also can interfere
> 
> you can define these macros yourself and hope for the best wrt interference 
> but i'm not going to look into such interferences
> 
> Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: \hidewidth disappeared

2023-07-16 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 7/16/2023 1:31 PM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote:

What happened to \hidewidth? It looks as if it disappeared. See the 
accompanying MWE.

However, searching the ConTeXt source I find it used in enco-ini.mkiv, defined 
in syst-ini.mkiv, but commented out in syst-ini.mkxl.
Why is that? It seems a harmless definition, and its body is even used twice in 
enco-ini.mkxl.

I dare say, with all due respect, it is not pleasant (and a waste of time) to 
find working code suddenly broken because of leftout macro's. And I feel lucky 
to not having used \ialign, because something similar happened to it.
\hidewidth is a plain tex thing that is unlikely to work well with other 
code


\ialign is also something plain and as it sets everycr as well as 
tabskip and also can interfere


you can define these macros yourself and hope for the best wrt 
interference but i'm not going to look into such interferences


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: Slow sreach with new mailing list interfache

2023-07-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 7/16/23 11:25, Michael Loescher wrote:
> Hello,
>
> searching the mailing list is very slow recently (since the new
> interface hast been established). For example searching for "font"
> takes 20 seconds for the results to show up. Is it only me
> experiencing this phenomenon or ist it a general problem?
I’m experiencing the delay too, Michael.

I wonder whether this is a general issue with the HyperKitty interface.

BTW, it is really a pity that the new interface doesn’t consider all
messages send from and to the list as with the address of the mailing
list itself.

This would avoid non-intended private replies.

Just in case it might help,

Pablo

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[NTG-context] Re: Text item groups

2023-07-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 7/15/23 21:46, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> Hi, list! I want to know how to make numbers in text item groups run
> along with text (for instance, wrt indentation) regardless of their
> position in text. In the following example:

Hi Jairo,

alignsymbol=yes might be what you need (if I’m getting your point right).

Complete sample that worked for me:

  \setupindenting[yes,medium]
  \starttext
  \startitemize[a,intext]
[left=(, right=), stopper=, alignsymbol=yes, indenting={yes,medium}]
  \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
  \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
  \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
  \stopitemize
  \stoptext

Just in case it might help,

Pablo
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[NTG-context] \hidewidth disappeared

2023-07-16 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
What happened to \hidewidth? It looks as if it disappeared. See the accompanying MWE.However, searching the ConTeXt source I find it used in enco-ini.mkiv, defined in syst-ini.mkiv, but commented out in syst-ini.mkxl.Why is that? It seems a harmless definition, and its body is even used twice in enco-ini.mkxl.I dare say, with all due respect, it is not pleasant (and a waste of time) to find working code suddenly broken because of leftout macro's. And I feel lucky to not having used \ialign, because something similar happened to it.
yours sincerelydr. Hans van der Meer






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[NTG-context] Re: Text item groups

2023-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Jairo A. del Rio schrieb am 15.07.2023 um 21:46:
Hi, list! I want to know how to make numbers in text item groups run 
along with text (for instance, wrt indentation) regardless of their 
position in text. In the following example:


\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\starttext

\startitemize[a,text][textdistance=none]

\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem

\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem

\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem

\stopitemize

\stoptext

Indentation is ignored altogether. Thank you in advance


\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\starttext

\samplefile{jojomayer}

\startitemize[a,intext][alignsymbol=yes,indenting=yes,width=\widthofstring{a.},distance=\spaceamount]
\startitem \samplefile{jojomayer}\stopitem
\startitem \samplefile{jojomayer}\stopitem
\startitem \samplefile{jojomayer}\stopitem
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: Text item groups

2023-07-16 Thread Bruce Horrocks
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "run along with text". If you mean "keep in 
the same paragraph" then just remove the blank lines from your example, e.g.
\setupindenting[yes,medium]

\starttext

\startitemize[a,text][textdistance=none]

\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem

\startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem

\stopitemize

\stoptext

> On 15 Jul 2023, at 20:46, Jairo A. del Rio  wrote:
> 
> Hi, list! I want to know how to make numbers in text item groups run along 
> with text (for instance, wrt indentation) regardless of their position in 
> text. In the following example:
> 
> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \startitemize[a,text][textdistance=none]
> 
> \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
> 
> \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
> 
> \startitem \input{jojomayer}\stopitem
> 
> \stopitemize
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Indentation is ignored altogether. Thank you in advance
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jairo
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[NTG-context] Re: depth of framed

2023-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Hans van der Meer via ntg-context schrieb am 16.07.2023 um 12:14:
I cannot get rid of some depth in framed. Used various combinations of 
the depth and backgrounddepth setting, nothing helps.
What am I doing wrong? Or is something in \framed not working in the 
way I expected?


1. Include your MWE in the mail because attachments aren't available in 
the mail archive.


2. Add "strut=no" to your framed settings to get rid of the depth.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] depth of framed

2023-07-16 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context
I cannot get rid of some depth in framed. Used various combinations of the depth and backgrounddepth setting, nothing helps.What am I doing wrong? Or is something in \framed not working in the way I expected?See the accompanying MWE.
yours sincerelydr. Hans van der Meer






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[NTG-context] Slow sreach with new mailing list interfache

2023-07-16 Thread Michael Loescher
Hello,

searching the mailing list is very slow recently (since the new interface hast 
been established).
For example searching for "font" takes 20 seconds for the results to show up.
Is it only me experiencing this phenomenon or ist it a general problem?
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