[NTG-context] Horizontal spacing

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

these line can modify the space between words:

\installtolerancemethod
{horizontal}
{MySpace}
{\spaceskip2.75pt plus1.60pt minus1.10pt\relax}

\setupalign[line,block]\setfalse\raggedonelinerstate% kein hz=expansion mehr?
\setuptolerance[MySpace]


But how can I adjust in general the horizontal distance between glyphs (I don't 
mean \kern, I am looking for a general setup)?


Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] never add a hyphen to break a URL

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> Am 25.10.2022 um 11:47 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> On 10/25/2022 11:05 AM, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
>> This does not open the right link.
>> At least on my machine nothing happens when clicking on «litteraturbanken.se 
>> <http://litteraturbanken.se/>».
>> (And it looks as the link was cropped, only reads the first line?)
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \useurl
>  [litteraturbanken]
>  [https://litteraturbanken.se]
> [författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only]
>  [https://litteraturbanken.se]
> 
> \starttext
> 
>before \goto{\url[litteraturbanken]}[url(litteraturbanken)] after
> 
>before \from[litteraturbanken] after
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> beware of viewer behaviour: some viewers parse the displayed pdf
> 
> Hans



…. strange, on my machine your example doesn't open the link.

Please have a look here: only the last one («works …») opens the link. Why?


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\useurl
 [litteraturbanken]
 [https://litteraturbanken.se]
[författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only]
 [https://litteraturbanken.se]

\starttext

   before \goto{\url[litteraturbanken]}[url(litteraturbanken)] after

   before \from[litteraturbanken] after

   fails 
\useURL[test][https://litteraturbanken.se/författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only][][{https://litteraturbanken.se/författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_sear-ch_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only}]\from[test]
 after

   works 
\useURL[test][https://litteraturbanken.se/f\%C3\%B6rfattare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only][][{https://litteraturbanken.se/författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_sear-ch_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only}]\from[test]
 after

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] never add a hyphen to break a URL

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

This does not open the right link.

At least on my machine nothing happens when clicking on «litteraturbanken.se 
».

(And it looks as the link was cropped, only reads the first line?)

Steffen



> Am 24.10.2022 um 20:04 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
> mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>:
> 
> A simpler approach would read (there is a single url, instead of two
> [less typos in the end]):
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \def\MyURL[#1]{\goto{\tt\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(#1)]}
> 
> \MyURL[https://litteraturbanken.se/författare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only
>  
> ]
> \stoptext

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[NTG-context] never add a hyphen to break a URL

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Hi,

according to the Chicago Manual of Style we should «never add a hyphen to break 
a URL»:

(https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/URLs/faq0008.html)


Is there a switch to forbid \useURL adding hyphens?


\starttext

\useURL[test][https://litteraturbanken.se/f\%C3\%B6rfattare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_search_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only][][{https://litteraturbanken.se/f\%C3\%B6rfattare/CollijnI/titlar/ActaEtProcessusCanon/sida/614/faksimil?
 
show_sear-ch_work_query=retractata_lbworkid=lb487378_mediatype=faksimil_word_form_only}]\from[test]%

\stoptext


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[NTG-context] Fwd: Hyphenation in multi-language projects

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> 
> Von: Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context  >
> Betreff: Aw: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
> Datum: 14. September 2022 um 19:40:53 MESZ
> An: Denis Maier via ntg-context  >
> Kopie: Pablo Rodriguez mailto:oi...@gmx.es>>
> Antwort an: mailing list for ConTeXt users  >
> 
> On 9/14/22 16:54, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all*
>>> languages?
>> 
>> I thought that \hyphenation would work like that, or \startexceptions
>> without a language code. Apparently that's not the case.
> 
> \hyphenation only works for the given language:
> 
>  \hyphenation{macOS}
>  \starttext
>  \startTEXpage[offset=1em]
>  \currentlanguage:
>  \hyphenatedword{macOS}
> 
>  \startlanguage[fr]
>  \currentlanguage:
>  \hyphenatedword{macOS}
>  \stoplanguage
>  \stopTEXpage
>  \stoptext
> 
> But I’d say that \registerhyphenationexception[macOS] was
> language-independent for me some time ago. (Now it seems to work like
> \hyphenation.)
> 
> In any case, \registerhyphenationexception seems to have issues with
> ligatures:
> 
>  \setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
>  \registerhyphenationexception[steff-en macOS]
>  \registerhyphenationexception[it][steff-en macOS]
> 
>  \starttext
>  \startTEXpage[offset=1em]
>  \currentlanguage:
>  \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS}
> 
>  \startlanguage[it]
>  \currentlanguage:
>  \hyphenatedword{steffen macOS}
>  \stoplanguage
>  \stopTEXpage
>  \stoptext
> 
> If there isn’t a command to add language-indepented hyphenation
> exceptions or patterns, one for proper names (for people, products or
> companies) would be really useful.
> 
> Just in case Hans or other wizard may take a look at this,
> 
> Pablo


Hans, is there any news regarding Pablos wish?

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Combining Macron Below needed

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for what fonts does this fontfeature work?


\definefontfeature[default][default][compose=yes]

\starttext

\definedfont[name:agaramondproregular*default]{ḵ ṭarī}

\stoptext


I need it for Garamond Premier Pro (and Renner*).
Steffen


> Am 11.09.2022 um 11:38 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> On 9/10/2022 5:41 PM, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi,
>> a text is to be set in Garamond Premier Pro and uses this character: ḵ
>> Is there a way to set a combining macron below (U+0331), preferable in a 
>> Garamond-like font?
> I'm sure that these missing accented chars in fonts have been discussed 
> before and you can use this feature (made for Mojca long ago):
> 
> \definefontfeature[default][default][compose=yes]
> 
> \starttext
>  ḵ
> \stoptext
> 
> So, unless you wikify it, I bet the same question will come up again.
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

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a bug?

st.


> Am 14.09.2022 um 16:54 schrieb denis.ma...@unibe.ch:
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: ntg-context  Im Auftrag von Steffen
>> Wolfrum via ntg-context
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 16:45
>> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
>> Cc: Steffen Wolfrum ; Hans Hagen
>> 
>> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
>> 
>> Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?
> 
> I thought that \hyphenation would work like that, or \startexceptions without 
> a language code. Apparently that's not the case.
> 
> Denis
> 
> 

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

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Isn’t there a way to list exceptions that will work in *all* languages?

Steffen


> Am 14.09.2022 um 09:19 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context 
> :
> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: ntg-context  Im Auftrag von Max
>> Chernoff via ntg-context
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2022 08:51
>> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> Cc: Max Chernoff ; cont...@st.estfiles.de
>> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects
>> 
>> Hi Steffen,
>> 
>>> … \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??
>> 
>> Well I'm not sure if it's "correct", but it seems to work. Based on my 
>> testing,
>> having three subsequent sets of groups ({A}{B}{C}) is converted to a
>> discretionary. The discretionary hyphen "\-" is equivalent to the Plain TeX
>> command "\discretionary{-}{}{}", so
>> 
>>  \replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]
>> 
>> acts just like "steff\-en". TeX won't otherwise hyphenate a word with
>> discretionaries, so this means that "steff-en" will be the only allowable
>> hyphenation.
> 
> Just one caveat though. IIRC, Hans has mentioned that this kind of stuff is 
> slower than using the hyphenation engine directly. (That's why he has 
> reimplemented the ligature suppression mechanism on the hyphenation level, 
> rather than acting on the node list.) 
> 
> Best,
> Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

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… \replaceword should be the correct way for proper hyphenation??

st.


> Am 14.09.2022 um 08:35 schrieb Max Chernoff :
> 
> 
> Hi Steffen,
> 
>> The idea is to set the hyphenation for certain words regardless of the
>> language that is used in the surrounding paragraphs.
>> 
>> In this example it should stay: «steff-en»
>> 
>> How do i set this to all non-english paragraphs (without using
>> \hyphenation on each language-switch)?
> 
> You can use \replaceword:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setuppapersize[A6][A6]
> 
> \mainlanguage[en]
> 
> \replaceword[hyphenations][steffen][steff{-}{}{}en]
> \setreplacements[hyphenations]
> 
> english text english text english teste: steffen steffen
> 
> \start\language[it]
> italian text italian text italian teste: steffen steffen
> \stop
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> -- Max

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[NTG-context] Hyphenation in multi-language projects

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

please have a look at this minimal example.

The idea is to set the hyphenation for certain words regardless of the language 
that is used in the surrounding paragraphs.

In this example it should stay: «steff-en»

How do i set this to all non-english paragraphs (without using \hyphenation on 
each language-switch)?

Best,
Steffen

—

\starttext

\setuppapersize[A6][A6]

\mainlanguage[en]

\startexceptions
steff-en
\stopexceptions

english text english text english teste: steffen

\start\language[it]
italian text italian text italian teste: steffen
\stop

\start\language[it]\hyphenation{steff-en}
italian text italian text italian teste: steffen
\stop

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Combining Macron Below needed

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

a text is to be set in Garamond Premier Pro and uses this character: ḵ

Is there a way to set a combining macron below (U+0331), preferable in a 
Garamond-like font?

Best,
Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] overfull lines

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> Am 22.07.2022 um 10:05 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> On 7/21/2022 5:02 PM, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi,
>> the command \version[temporary] shows an overfullrule when lines are set 
>> overfull.
>> How does this work also in footnotes?
>> MWE:
>> \setuppapersize[A10]
>> \overfullrule5\points
>> %\version[temporary]
>> \starttext
>> \showframe
>> XX\footnote{xxx}
>> \stoptext
> \let\dontcomplain\relax

… no, I can't complain ;o)

Thank you! Steffen
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[NTG-context] overfull lines

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

the command \version[temporary] shows an overfullrule when lines are set 
overfull.

How does this work also in footnotes?

MWE:

\setuppapersize[A10]

\overfullrule5\points
%\version[temporary]

\starttext

\showframe

XX\footnote{xxx}

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] overfull gone?

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> Am 28.05.2022 um 14:16 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> On 5/28/2022 12:43 PM, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi,
>> in order to easily see overfull lines I used \overfullrule30\points : this 
>> gave a clear black box in the right margin.
>> Is this command (\version[temporary]) gone??
>> Please have a look at the example below: no overfull indicator ...
>> Steffen
>> ---
>> \setuppapersize[A6]
>> \setupexternalfigures[location={default}]
>> %\version[temporary]
>> \overfullrule30\points% < BLACK BOX?
>> \starttext
>> \startcolumns[n=3]
>> % Overfull lines will have slugs in colum margins.
>> \input linden
>> % Underfull hboxes get no warning
>> x
>> \stopcolumns
>> \stoptext
> i'll check it .. looks like some interference with normalization .. actually 
> one can enable more advanced tracers:
> 
> % \enabletrackers[builders.hpack.quality]
> % \enabletrackers[builders.hpack.overflow]


the overfullrule is great for visual debugging
thanks for checking it

Steffen
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[NTG-context] interwordspace error after update

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

with my last ConTeXt ver 2022.01.21 20:31 LMTX (arm64) this work:

\startsetups footnotesetup
\interwordspace 2.75pt % \setuptolerance[NEUNspace] hat hier keine Wirkung!
\interwordstretch 1.7pt
\interwordshrink 0.9pt
\setupinterlinespace[line=11pt, height=.79,depth=.21]
\lineskiplimit-\maxdimen
\setupwhitespace[0pt]
\stopsetups


Now, with ver 2022.05.11 11:36 LMTX (arm64) the same document gives an error:

tex error   > tex error on line 4 in file ./01_Fara.tex: You can't use 
'\scaledinterwordspace' in internal vertical mode

 \22>:footnotesetup 
   #1->\interwordspace 
   2.75pt\clubpenalty =1\widowpenalty =1\displaywidowpenalty 
=1\brokenpenalty =0\setupinterlinespace [line=11pt, 
height=.79,depth=.21]\lineskiplimit -\maxdimen \setupwhitespace [0pt]
 
 \m_syst_setups_asked 
   \clf_autosetups {\m_syst_setups_asked }
   \relax 
 \handlenoteinsert 
   ...ngroup \edef \currentnote {#1}\strc_constructions_initialize 
{#1}\strc_notes_synchronize \the \everybeforenoteinsert \insert 
\currentnoteinsertionnumber \bgroup \the \everyinsidenoteinsert \relax 
\usesetupsparameter \noteparameter 
   \useinterline ...
 \currentconstructionsynchronize 
   ...es \global \settrue \postponednote \orelse \ifconditional 
\c_strc_notes_flushed \handlenoteitself \currentnote \currentnotenumber \orelse 
\ifconditional \c_strc_notes_delayed \else \handlenoteinsert \currentnote 
\currentnotenumber 
   \fi \endgroup ...
 \currentconstructionsynchronize 
   \csname \??constructionnotehandler \currentconstructionhandler \endcsname 
   \strc_constructions_finalize \strc_notations_finalize 
 
   \stopfootnote
   }


Is there any chance my setup might work again?

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] ugly bug

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

> Am 02.06.2022 um 20:13 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
> :
> 
> Steffen Wolfrum schrieb am 01.06.2022 um 14:03:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> several times I got problems with my publishing house when they noticed that 
>> the headerlines jump up and down on pages that end/begin with qoutes (i.e. 
>> smaller interlineskip), see example below: on page 1 the blackrule is about 
>> 1mm higher than on page 2.
>> 
>> In the past I then used really laborious workarounds to get these single 
>> pages in the correct way (without jumping)… manual pagebreak, re-define 
>> layout etc.
>> 
>> But as the pages are hard to find it would be better that the layout would 
>> be reliable consistent.
>> 
>> How can this be solved?
> 
> \defineinterlinespace[steffen][line=4.2ex]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}
> 
> \start
> %\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=4.2ex]% wrong header alignment
> \setuplocalinterlinespace[steffen]% correct header alignment
> \dorecurse{4}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}
> \stop
> 
> \dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}
> 
> \stoptext


ok, this minimal example works.

but for other reasons (lots of heading with various vertical spaces)!) I also 
need \setuplayout[grid=tolerant]


\setuplayout[grid=tolerant]% this kills the smaller interlinespace

\defineinterlinespace[steffen][line=4.2ex]

\starttext

\dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}

\start
%\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=4.2ex]% wrong header alignment
\setuplocalinterlinespace[steffen]% correct header alignment
\dorecurse{4}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}
\stop

\dorecurse{2}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}

\stoptext


Any idea how to preserve the smaller interlinespace?
Steffen
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[NTG-context] ugly bug

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

several times I got problems with my publishing house when they noticed that 
the headerlines jump up and down on pages that end/begin with qoutes (i.e. 
smaller interlineskip), see example below: on page 1 the blackrule is about 1mm 
higher than on page 2.

In the past I then used really laborious workarounds to get these single pages 
in the correct way (without jumping)… manual pagebreak, re-define layout etc.

But as the pages are hard to find it would be better that the layout would be 
reliable consistent.

How can this be solved?


Best wishes, Steffen

===

\setupbodyfont[palatino,9.5pt]\setupinterlinespace[13pt]

\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setupheader[strut=yes]
\setupheadertexts[text][][\blackrule]


\definepapersize[stw][width=17cm,height=24cm]
\setuppapersize[stw][stw]

\setuplayout
[width=122mm,
backspace=18mm,topspace=10mm,
header=7mm,headerdistance=5.969mm,
footer=5mm,footerdistance=5mm,height=214.031mm, 
location=middle]


\definedelimitedtext
[narrowtext]
[leftmargin=6mm,rightmargin=0mm]%,

\starttext

%%Test 1:
\dorecurse{6}{\input linden}

%%Test 2:
%\dorecurse{5}{\input tufte}


\start
\startdelimitedtext[narrowtext]
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=11pt]
\input linden\par
\stopdelimitedtext
\stop

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] arm osx

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

the first, clean install of MacOS ARM64bits I downloaded from 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation

Next I followed the thread below (exchanging texmf-osx-64/bin to 
texmf-osx-arm64/bin) and everything works like a charm (ConTeXt ver: 2022.01.21 
20:13 LMTX) !

Today I wanted to update, using 
sh install.sh

After that, running the same TeXShop engine as before gives an error:

Users/steffen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt LMTX_ARM.engine: line 3: 19971 
Killed: 9   
/Users/steffen/context-osx-arm64/tex/texmf-osx-arm64/bin/mtxrun --autogenerate 
--script context --autopdf "$1"

What did I do wrong?

Steffen




> Am 25.04.2021 um 18:52 schrieb Keith McKay :
> 
> Great! I'm glad it worked OK!
> Best Wishes
> Keith
> 
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021, 09:59 Charles Doherty,  
> wrote:
> Dear Keith and Mojca,
> 
> I followed the information provided buy Keith below and everything is working 
> just fine. Mojca I directed my request to Keith in the first instance since I 
> felt it was most likely my lack of knowledge of how to get things going that 
> was the problem (as usual). So thank you for your quick response and offer to 
> test. And thank you Keith for your example below it did the trick.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Charlie
> 
>> On 23 Apr 2021, at 15:53, Keith McKay  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry. I put a typo in the engine file in my reply. It should be
>> 
>> #!/bin/bash
>> 
>> export 
>> PATH=/Users/pothole/data/contextarm64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin:/Users/pothole/data/contextarm64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin
>> 
>> /Users/pothole/data/contextarm64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun --autogenerate 
>> --script context --autopdf "$1"
>> 
>> Best Wishes
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
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[NTG-context] overfull gone?

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

in order to easily see overfull lines I used \overfullrule30\points : this gave 
a clear black box in the right margin.

Is this command (\version[temporary]) gone??

Please have a look at the example below: no overfull indicator ...

Steffen

---

\setuppapersize[A6]

\setupexternalfigures[location={default}]
%\version[temporary]
\overfullrule30\points% < BLACK BOX?

\starttext

\startcolumns[n=3]
 % Overfull lines will have slugs in colum margins.
 \input linden 

 % Underfull hboxes get no warning
 x
\stopcolumns

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] spooky jumping headerline

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

the \blackrule (in my real project this is the running title) on page 1 is 
about 1mm higher than on page 2.

Why?

Best, Steffen



\setupbodyfont[palatino,9.5pt]\setupinterlinespace[13pt]

\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]
\setupheader[strut=yes]
\setupheadertexts[text][][\blackrule]


\definepapersize[stw][width=17cm,height=24cm]
\setuppapersize[stw][stw]

\setuplayout
[width=122mm,
backspace=18mm,topspace=10mm,
header=7mm,headerdistance=5.969mm,
footer=5mm,footerdistance=5mm,height=214.031mm, 
location=middle]


\definedelimitedtext
 [narrowtext]
 [leftmargin=6mm,rightmargin=0mm]%,

\starttext

%%Test 1:
\dorecurse{6}{\input linden}

%%Test 2:
%\dorecurse{5}{\input tufte}


\start
\startdelimitedtext[narrowtext]
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=11pt]
\input linden\par
\stopdelimitedtext
\stop

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] is \version[temporary] still alive?

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Hi,

testing this mwe I’d expect some indicators detecting overfull lines.

At least on my machine (ConTeXt  ver: 2022.01.21 20:13 LMTX) nothing happens:

\setuppapersize[A6]
% Tell ConTeXt where the windmill picture is
\setupexternalfigures[location={default}]
\version[temporary]

\section{Slithy toves}

% Top right of page will show successful reference '< fig2'
% Left margin will mention unsuccessful reference 'figNothing->'
See \in{Figure}[fig2] and \in{Figure}[figNothing].

% Top right of page will show new-created anchors '> fig1' and '> fig2'
% Top right of page will show successfully placed floats
\placefigure[here][fig1]{First windmill}{
   \externalfigure[mill][width=1cm]
}
\placefigure[here][fig2]{Second windmill}{
   \externalfigure[mill][width=1cm]
}

\startcolumns[n=3]
   % Overfull lines will have slugs in colum margins.
   \input linden 

   % Underfull hboxes get no warning
   x
\stopcolumns


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Re: [NTG-context] split TABLE cells

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> Am 19.05.2022 um 08:14 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> On 5/18/2022 8:07 PM, Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just found an old mail from 30 May 2008:
>> How do I split not only TABLE but cells? It was not possible then.
>> \starttext
>> \bTABLE[split=yes,option=stretch]
>> \bTR
>> \bTD
>> \input tufte \input knuth Hello world ...
>> \eTD
>> \bTD
>> \input tufte
>> \eTD
>> \bTD
>> \input knuth
>> \eTD
>> \eTR
>> \bTR
>> \bTD
>> Test
>> \eTD
>> \bTD
>> Test
>> \eTD
>> \bTD
>> Test
>> \eTD
>> \eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \stoptext
> not possible, use tabulate instead


do you have a MWE? 

the example from https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate gives an empty page:



\setuppapersize[A10, landscape][A8, landscape]
\setuppaper[nx=2,ny=2]
\setuparranging[XY]

\switchtobodyfont[5pt]
\setuppagenumbering[location={header,inright}]
\showframe[edge]

\setuptabulate
 [split=yes,
  header=text,
  title={\color[red] Fenchurch St. Paul},
  frame=on]

\starttabulate[|p(1.2cm)|p(1.2cm)|]
\dorecurse{6}{
\NC  Bells:  \NC  Tin tan din dan bim bam bom bo \NC\NR
\HL
\NC  Name:  \NC  Tailor Paul \NC \NR
  
\HL
}
\stoptabulate
)



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[NTG-context] split TABLE cells

[Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context]

Hi,

I just found an old mail from 30 May 2008:

How do I split not only TABLE but cells? It was not possible then.

\starttext
\bTABLE[split=yes,option=stretch]
\bTR
\bTD
\input tufte \input knuth Hello world ...
\eTD
\bTD
\input tufte
\eTD
\bTD
\input knuth
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD
Test
\eTD
\bTD
Test
\eTD
\bTD
Test
\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] \figuresymbol with underlying hyperlink?

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No, I didn’t…. Thank you very much, now it works ;o)

Steffen


> Am 29.03.2022 um 12:59 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> Did you try to use it with a parameter?
> \Link{wiki.contextgarden.net}
> 
> Hraban
> 
> Am 29.03.22 um 10:48 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>> Unfortunately I have to use it at a heading:
>> and this gives an error:
>> \starttext
>> \define[1]\Link{\goto{\symbol[wingdings 
>> 3][barb1right]}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
>> \chapter{a\Link}
>> text
>> \stoptext
>> Steffen
>>> Am 29.03.2022 um 09:56 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Am 28.03.22 um 21:08 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> is it possible to combine figuresymbol with some kind of \useurl?
>>>> The goal is to have an inline symbol that provides a http url link.
>>> 
>>> AFAIK there’s nothing ready-made in that regard, but just define your own 
>>> macro.
>>> 
>>> E.g. I use:
>>> 
>>> \define[1]\Web{\goto{\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
>>> \define[1]\Email{\goto{\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(mailto:#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
>>> \define[1]\WebQR{\inouter[scope=local]{\barcode[alternative=qr code, 
>>> text={#1}, width=10mm]}\Web{#1}}
>>> \define[1]\WebArrow{\symbol[wingdings 
>>> 3][barb1right]~{\em\hyphenatedurl{#1}}}
>>> 
>>> So I guess you’d like something like:
>>> 
>>> \define[1]\Link{\goto{\symbol[wingdings 
>>> 3][barb1right]}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
>>> 
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Re: [NTG-context] \figuresymbol with underlying hyperlink?

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Unfortunately I have to use it at a heading:
and this gives an error:


\starttext

\define[1]\Link{\goto{\symbol[wingdings 
3][barb1right]}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}

\chapter{a\Link}

text

\stoptext


Steffen



> Am 29.03.2022 um 09:56 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
> :
> 
> Am 28.03.22 um 21:08 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum via ntg-context:
>> Hi,
>> is it possible to combine figuresymbol with some kind of \useurl?
>> The goal is to have an inline symbol that provides a http url link.
> 
> AFAIK there’s nothing ready-made in that regard, but just define your own 
> macro.
> 
> E.g. I use:
> 
> \define[1]\Web{\goto{\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
> \define[1]\Email{\goto{\hyphenatedurl{#1}}[url(mailto:#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
> \define[1]\WebQR{\inouter[scope=local]{\barcode[alternative=qr code, 
> text={#1}, width=10mm]}\Web{#1}}
> \define[1]\WebArrow{\symbol[wingdings 3][barb1right]~{\em\hyphenatedurl{#1}}}
> 
> So I guess you’d like something like:
> 
> \define[1]\Link{\goto{\symbol[wingdings 
> 3][barb1right]}[url(https://#1)]\autoinsertnextspace}
> 
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[NTG-context] \figuresymbol with underlying hyperlink?

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Hi,

is it possible to combine figuresymbol with some kind of \useurl?

The goal is to have an inline symbol that provides a http url link.

Best wishes, 
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Re: [NTG-context] hyphenate nothyphenated

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> Am 01.07.2021 um 17:54 schrieb Alan Braslau :
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 00:12:40 +0200
> Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
 \= macron accent (bar) should not be changed.
 
 \-- is a good suggestion, like insisting, and should not get
 confused with -- (en dash).  
>>> 
>>> Is there some problem to make it just another option.
>>> 
>>> \enabledirectives[hyphenators.discretionary=hyphenated|nothyphenated]
>>> 
>> or maybe some key is \setuplanguages (what key)
> 
> Why not, but this would be somewhat obscure for the average user who
> would have to identify and then set this option in all documents...
> 
> The \-- extension is kind-of nice, obscure in its own way but good
> functionally. The risk is of users confusing this with the en ligature,
> something that unicode users avoid...
> 
> Maybe implement both solutions (setup affecting \- as well as \--) in
> Context?


And what about \– (U+2013)?

Steffen


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[NTG-context] error luatex exceptions

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While luametatex works fine, running this mwe with luatex ends in an error:


\startexceptions

con-text

\stopexceptions

\starttext

context

\stoptext



...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-ini.lua:198: attempt to 
call a nil value (global 'sortedhash')
stack traceback:
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-ini.lua:198: in 
upvalue 'sethjcodes'
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-ini.lua:551: in 
upvalue 'collecthjcodes'
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-ini.lua:570: in 
function <...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-ini.lua:566>
(...tail calls...)

 1 % engine=luatex
 2 %!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt LMTX
 3 
 4 \startexceptions
 5 
 6 con-text
 7 
 8 >>  \stopexceptions
 9 
10 \starttext
11 
12 context
13 
14 \stoptext

mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256


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[NTG-context] hyphenate nothyphenated

[Steffen Wolfrum]

When running this mwe with luatex, the command \- could be used to manually 
break the line, even though it is set up nothyphenated.

When running luametatex the word does not break:


\setuppapersize[A10]

\showframe

\setuphead[chapter][align={nothyphenated}]

\starttext

\chapter{abc\-def}

\stoptext


Is this intended?

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[NTG-context] color conversion eats note

[Steffen Wolfrum]

uncommenting the following \setupcolors changes magenta to black when running 
luatex.

but when running luametatex the footnote is crippled to «error»:


\starttext

\definestartstop[UL][color=magenta]

%\setupcolors[state=stop,conversion=never]% <- bw with lualatex, but «error» 
with luametatex?

\input ward \footnote{foo foo \startUL{}foo\stopUL{} foo foo foo foo foo 
\startUL{}foo\stopUL{} error}

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] Invalid keyword \spaceskip

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> Am 27.06.2021 um 09:16 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 6/26/2021 11:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Steffen Wolfrum schrieb am 26.06.2021 um 23:38:
>>>> Am 26.06.2021 um 22:43 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>> Steffen Wolfrum schrieb am 26.06.2021 um 22:26:
>>>>> PS: with
>>>>> 
>>>>> % engine=luatex
>>>>> 
>>>>> it works fine.
>>>> Add \relax after the last skip value, i.e.
>>>> 
>>>>  \spaceskip = 1pt plus 1pt minus 1.5pt\relax
>>>> 
>>>> LMTX allows multiple plus and minus values for a skip value and the M in 
>>>> Matilda starts the scan for an additional minus value.
>>> Wow, this sounds interesting. Is there an example of how to use multiple 
>>> values?
>> I think the only examples are in mails from Hans. When you set multiple plus 
>> or minus values (as far as i remember) only the last setting is used and all 
>> previous ones are ignored.
> Maybe in some article. Anyway, here is an example:
> 
> \starttext
>  test \skip0=10pt plus 10pt minus 10pt plus 20pt
> 
>  test \skip0=10pt plus 10pt plus 20pt minus 10pt
> 
>  test \vrule width 10pt height 10pt depth 10pt depth 10pt height 10pt
> 
> %  test \hbox to 10pt to 10pt {x}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> compare pdftex and luametatex.


ok. but why does this run fine

\starttext

Test \spaceskip = 1.0pt plus 1pt minus 1.5pt Wolfgang

\stoptext


while this ends in an error message?


\starttext

Test \spaceskip = 1.0pt plus 1pt minus 1.5pt Matilda

\stoptext


Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Invalid keyword \spaceskip

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 26.06.2021 um 22:43 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
> :
> 
> Steffen Wolfrum schrieb am 26.06.2021 um 22:26:
>> PS: with
>> 
>> % engine=luatex
>> 
>> it works fine.
> 
> Add \relax after the last skip value, i.e.
> 
>   \spaceskip = 1pt plus 1pt minus 1.5pt\relax
> 
> LMTX allows multiple plus and minus values for a skip value and the M in 
> Matilda starts the scan for an additional minus value.


Wow, this sounds interesting. Is there an example of how to use multiple values?

Thanks for the fix! Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Invalid keyword \spaceskip

[Steffen Wolfrum]

PS: with 

% engine=luatex

it works fine.

Steffen



> Am 26.06.2021 um 22:12 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum :
> 
> This mwe gives the error below:
> 
> 
> \starttext
> 
> {\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Matilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> Steffen
> 
> –––
> 
> … $ ~/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun --script context 
> --autogenerate /Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex 
> 
> resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format': 
> /Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luametatex 
> --jobname="error_1" 
> --fmt=/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt
>  
> --lua=/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui
>   --c:autogenerate --c:currentrun=1 
> --c:fulljobname="/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex" 
> --c:input="/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 
> --c:maxnofruns=9 
> --c:texmfbinpath="/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin"
> fonts   > beware: no fonts are loaded yet, using 'lm mono' in box
> system  > 
> system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2021.06.25 22:49 LMTX  fmt: 2021.6.26  int: 
> english/english
> system  > 
> system  > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
> open source > level 1, order 1, name 
> '/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
> system  > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
> close source> level 1, order 1, name 
> '/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
> system  > files > jobname 'error_1', input 
> '/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1', result 'error_1'
> fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
> languages   > language 'en' is active
> open source > level 1, order 2, name '/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex'
> fonts   > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
> fonts   > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
> tex error   > tex error on line 4 in file 
> /Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex: Valid keyword expected, likely 'minus'
> 
>  {\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Ma
>   tilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}
> 1 
> 2 \starttext
> 3 
> 4 >>  {\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Matilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}
> 5 
> 6 \stoptext
> You started a keyword but it seems to be an invalid one. The first 
> character(s)
> might give you a clue. You might want to quit unwanted lookahead with \relax.
> mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256
> 
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[NTG-context] Invalid keyword \spaceskip

[Steffen Wolfrum]

This mwe gives the error below:


\starttext

{\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Matilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}

\stoptext


Steffen

–––

… $ ~/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun --script context 
--autogenerate /Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex 

resolvers   | formats | executing runner 'run luametatex format': 
/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/luametatex 
--jobname="error_1" 
--fmt=/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.fmt
 
--lua=/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luametatex/cont-en.lui
  --c:autogenerate --c:currentrun=1 
--c:fulljobname="/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex" 
--c:input="/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 
--c:texmfbinpath="/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin"
fonts   > beware: no fonts are loaded yet, using 'lm mono' in box
system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2021.06.25 22:49 LMTX  fmt: 2021.6.26  int: 
english/english
system  > 
system  > 'cont-new.mkxl' loaded
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
close source> level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/steffen/context-osx-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-new.mkxl'
system  > files > jobname 'error_1', input 
'/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1', result 'error_1'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 1, order 2, name '/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex'
fonts   > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts   > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
tex error   > tex error on line 4 in file 
/Users/steffen/Desktop/error_1.tex: Valid keyword expected, likely 'minus'

 {\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Ma
   tilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}
1 
2 \starttext
3 
4 >>  {\spaceskip=1.0pt plus1pt minus1.5pt Matilda, 24, 345, 348, 361, 366}
5 
6 \stoptext
You started a keyword but it seems to be an invalid one. The first character(s)
might give you a clue. You might want to quit unwanted lookahead with \relax.
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256


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Re: [NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 08.06.2021 um 16:16 schrieb Aditya Mahajan :
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2021, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 08.06.2021 um 15:30 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> 
>>> On 6/8/2021 3:15 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>> 
>>>> perhaps I incidently use a command that utilizes random... what could this 
>>>> be?
>>> mwe
> 
> http://texfaq.org/FAQ-minxampl
> https://tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/228/ive-just-been-asked-to-write-a-minimal-working-example-mwe-what-is-that
> 
> These are latex centric advice on creating a minimal working example but 
> broadly applicable for context as well.



Before I posted my initial posting «randomizer line-breaking» I already spent 
days and weeks boiling down this phenomenon. Unfortunately the random output 
made it impossible  for me to make a smaller, but *working* (i.e. showing the 
bug) example. It just appears sometimes, sometimes it doesn't – in between two 
runs I changed nothing: «As you can imagine, I can't provide a minimal example 
for this, only the entire project-folder and the entire context-standalone.»

So my hope was that Hans (and Wolfgang et al.) know how things are chained 
together.
For example: Which ConTeXt command uses randomizer? I have no idea what goes on 
behind my user interface. Others maybe do.
Another example: The problem only appears when using start-/stopexceptions. Is 
there a connection between exceptions and random output on the level of low 
level code, maybe?

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 08.06.2021 um 15:30 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 6/8/2021 3:15 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
>> perhaps I incidently use a command that utilizes random... what could this 
>> be?
> mwe

pardon?
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Re: [NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 08.06.2021 um 15:01 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 6/8/2021 12:18 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>> Am 07.06.2021 um 17:59 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> 
>>> On 6/7/2021 5:44 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>>>> Am 07.06.2021 um 16:39 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not that I know of ... but you can run wiht --keeptuc and see if there 
>>>>> are differences in the tuc file that create some oscillation.
>>>> Ok. Each run now creates 4 additional files:
>>>> file_name-tuc-02.tmp
>>>> file_name-tuc-03.tmp
>>>> file_name-tuc-04.tmp
>>>> file_name-tuc-05.tmp
>>>> Is this right?
>>> indeed and you can compare them to get some clue about what changes
>>> 
>>> normally you get one so your style somehow triggers differences
>> Besides plenty of numbers that differ, there are also entire lines that 
>> differ:
>> One frequent difference for examples is line 2 (macros) and 3 (randomseed) 
>> in this:
>> utilitydata.job.variables.collected={
>> ["macros"]={},
>> ["randomseed"]=0x1.c14cd54cp-1,
>> ["sectionblockorder"]={ "frontpart", "bodypart", "backpart" },
> that randomseed should be the same between runs (unless one wipes the tuc 
> file) so are you doing something with random?


not that I know of. 

I searched through both, the project folder and my modules (in context 
standalone), both «random» nowhere was to be found.

perhaps I incidently use a command that utilizes random... what could this be?

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Re: [NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 07.06.2021 um 17:59 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 6/7/2021 5:44 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>> Am 07.06.2021 um 16:39 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> 
>>> Not that I know of ... but you can run wiht --keeptuc and see if there are 
>>> differences in the tuc file that create some oscillation.
>> Ok. Each run now creates 4 additional files:
>> file_name-tuc-02.tmp
>> file_name-tuc-03.tmp
>> file_name-tuc-04.tmp
>> file_name-tuc-05.tmp
>> Is this right?
> indeed and you can compare them to get some clue about what changes
> 
> normally you get one so your style somehow triggers differences


Besides plenty of numbers that differ, there are also entire lines that differ:

One frequent difference for examples is line 2 (macros) and 3 (randomseed) in 
this:

utilitydata.job.variables.collected={
["macros"]={},
["randomseed"]=0x1.c14cd54cp-1,
["sectionblockorder"]={ "frontpart", "bodypart", "backpart" },


Another difference that pops up 1000 times is this line
["used"]="fit",

in situation like this:
utilitydata.structures.references.collected={
["02"]={
 ["*101"]={
  ["metadata"]=678,
  ["references"]={
   ["block"]="bodypart",
   ["internal"]=102,
   ["prefix"]="02",
   ["realpage"]=16,
   ["reference"]="*101",
   ["section"]=3,
   ["used"]="fit",
   ["view"]="fit",
   ["x"]=25526152,
   ["y"]=36448045,
  },
 },



Does this help?

PS: The entire problem began when I started using hyphenation-exceptions...

Steffen
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[NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Hans,

is there some kind of randomizer involved in line-breaking?

I have a 458 pages project, a book of humanities.

When I immediately typeset (engine=luatex) it a second time, the resulting PDF 
differs on 14 pages, diffpdf-compared to the original PDF
when I typeset it a third time, the resulting PDF differs on 7 pages,
when I typeset it a forth time, the resulting PDF differs on 12 pages,
when I typeset it a fifth time, the resulting PDF differs on 0 pages.

"differs" means that there a paragraphs (mostly footnotes, rarely in the main 
text) that show different line-breaking: This doesn't mean wrong hyphenation, 
just *different* hyphenation, different each time.

As you can imagine, I can't provide a minimal example for this, only the entire 
project-folder and the entire context-standalone.

Steffen


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Re: [NTG-context] randomizer line-breaking

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 07.06.2021 um 16:39 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> Not that I know of ... but you can run wiht --keeptuc and see if there are 
> differences in the tuc file that create some oscillation.


Ok. Each run now creates 4 additional files:

file_name-tuc-02.tmp
file_name-tuc-03.tmp
file_name-tuc-04.tmp
file_name-tuc-05.tmp

Is this right?

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Re: [NTG-context] where to break a long header

[Steffen Wolfrum]

> Am 06.06.2021 um 22:02 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 6/6/2021 3:34 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> This minimal I ran with «ConTeXt  ver: 2021.06.04 17:28 MKI» and got two PDF 
>> files:
>> One «test.pdf» as expected and one called «test-pdf-keep.pdf».
>> What's the reason behind this double feature?
> see thread of a few days ago


sure, just overlooked it (or rather my search didn't match).

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation again

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

yet another strange thing: «ap-plic-»

See code below, Steffen


\mainlanguage[en]

\startexceptions[en]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[de]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\startexceptions[it]
appli-ca​ble
obli-gated
\stopexceptions

\setuplayout[width=1cm]


\starttext

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank

\language[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated

\blank


\mainlanguage[de]

\currentmainlanguage

\currentlanguage

\hyphenatedword{applicable}

applicable

\hyphenatedword{obligated}

obligated


\stoptext




> Am 09.10.2020 um 16:38 schrieb Denis Maier :
> 
> Hi,
> another weird thing:
> In this example I use  \startexceptions to set hyphenation exceptions: 
> 
> ```
> \mainlanguage[en]
> \startexceptions[en]
> appli-ca​ble
> obli-gated
> \stopexceptions
> 
> \setuplayout[width=1cm]
> 
> \starttext
> \currentmainlanguage
> 
> \currentlanguage
> 
> \hyphenatedword{applicable}
> 
> applicable
> 
> \hyphenatedword{obligated}
> 
> obligated
> \stoptext
> ```
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Best,
> Denis
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] where to break a long header

[Steffen Wolfrum]

This minimal I ran with «ConTeXt  ver: 2021.06.04 17:28 MKI» and got two PDF 
files:
One «test.pdf» as expected and one called «test-pdf-keep.pdf».

What's the reason behind this double feature?

Steffen



> Am 05.06.2021 um 10:14 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster 
> :
> 
> denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch schrieb am 05.06.2021 um 08:16:
>> \startsection[title={A very \\ long title},list={A very long title}]
> 
> Be careful with spaces before and after \\. In the table of contents \\ is 
> converted to a space and in the worst case you get three spaces instead of 
> one.
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \placecontent
> 
> \section{First section \\ with a line break}
> 
> \section{Second section\\ with a line break}
> 
> \section{Third section \\with a line break}
> 
> \section{Fourth section\\with a line break}
> 
> \stoptext
> 
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[NTG-context] math bold not bold-italic

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I need upright, bold math. Like in this example the lambda:


\usetypescript[type-vista.tex]
\setupbodyfont[cambria,rm,12pt]

\starttext
This is \fontname\font

${\bf λ}= 1$

\stoptext



But it always gets bold-italic! 
What is the correct way to get bold math?

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Re: [NTG-context] math bold not bold-italic

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Am 19.08.2013 um 13:59 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 8/19/2013 11:00 AM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I need upright, bold math. Like in this example the lambda:
 
 
 \usetypescript[type-vista.tex]
 \setupbodyfont[cambria,rm,12pt]
 
 \starttext
 This is \fontname\font
 
 ${\bf λ}= 1$
 
 \stoptext
 
 
 
 But it always gets bold-italic!
 What is the correct way to get bold math?
 
 \setupbodyfont[cambria,rm,12pt]
 
 \starttext
${\mathuprighta}= 1$
${\mathupright\bf a}= 1$
${\mathuprightλ}= 1$
${\mathupright\bf λ}= 1$
 \stoptext
 
 so ... no upright bold greek in the font


of course there is upright bold greek in the font!

\setupbodyfont[cambria,rm,12pt]

\starttext

{\bf λ}% -- !!!

   ${\mathuprighta}= 1$
   ${\mathupright\bf a}= 1$
   ${\mathuprightλ}= 1$
   ${\mathupright\bf λ}= 1$
\stoptext

... there is a bug in math bold, no?

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[NTG-context] mathvariant bold NOT bold-italic

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

as far as I have understood MathML, elements tagged with mathvariant=bold 
should be set upright bold, not bold-italic.

Could this be corrected, please?

Thank you very much!
Steffen
---

\usemodule[mathml] \starttext

\placeformula\startformula[9pt]
\setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldp/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
/mml:math\endbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}
\stopformula


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Re: [NTG-context] setupformulas

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 11.06.2013 um 11:30 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 11.06.2013 um 07:38 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 
 Am 10.06.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 
 
 Am 10.06.2013 um 16:43 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 Hi,
 
 \setupformulas[way=bychapter,prefixsegments=chapter]
 
 gives (A..1)
 
 But I need (A-1)!
 
 
 Any idea how the key is called to change this?
 
 You can change the separator between the section prefix and the formula 
 number with \setupformula[prefixconnector=-].
 
 
 Is there also a key for a own prefix, eg. my: (my-1)?
 
 
 It’s not a prefix but you can set a labeltext.
 
 \setupformula[prefix=no]
 \setuplabeltext[formula=Steffen-]
 
 \starttext
 \chapter{Chapter}
 \placeformula
 \startformula
 c^2 = a^2 + b^2
 \stopformula
 \stoptext


nice, thank you. 
i was looking for a key within setupformula, and didn't think of formula within 
setuplabetext!

st.
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Re: [NTG-context] bug with overbar

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 10.06.2013 um 17:43 schrieb luigi scarso:

 
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de 
 wrote:
 ... no. it should look this (see below): $\overline{U_A}$
 
 it should be ok now with the latest standalone

well, the minimal example works ok (see below).
but the real piece of code doesn not (see below, too).

any idea why??

thanks, steffen
---



\usemodule[mathml] \starttext


\startbuffer
math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
   mover accent=true
   mrow
   msub
   miU/mi
   miA/mi
   /msub
   /mrow
   moOverBar;/mo
   /mover
/mrow
/math
\stopbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}





\startbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
msubsup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
miU/mi
/mrow
mrow
miP/mi
/mrow
mrow
miF/mi
miV/mi
mim/mi
miM/mi
/mrow
/msubsup
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
mfrac xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mn1/mn
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
mik/mi
/mrow
/mfrac
mfenced xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; open=[ close=] 
separators=|
mrow
mfenced separators=|
mrow
mii/mi
mo+/mo
mif/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mfenced separators=|
mrow
mn2/mn
mip/mi
mo+/mo
mii/mi
mo+/mo
mif/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mo-/mo
msup
mrow
mif/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/msup
mik/mi
mir/mi
msup
mrow
miσ/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/msup
/mrow
/mfenced
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;-/mo
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;c/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;-/mo
mrow
   mover accent=true
   mrow
   msub
   miU/mi
   miA/mi
   /msub
   /mrow
   moOverBar;/mo
   /mover
/mrow
/mml:math\stopbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}



\stoptext


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[NTG-context] mathml lim

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi (to whom it may concern),

I just saw that (by magic?) the missing mathvariant bold is implementetd in 
todays ctx suite! wow, thank you very much!!

two details that keep missing is max and lim (see below).

could this be done easily, too?!


Best wishes,
Steffen
---

\startbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
munder
mrow
mi mathvariant=normallim/mi
/mrow
mrow
mil/mi
mo→/mo
mo-/mo
mi∞/mi
/mrow
/munder
/mrow
mo⁡/mo
mrow
mover accent=true
mrow
mif/mi
/mrow
motilde;/mo
/mover
mfenced separators=|
mrow
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mrow
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
mrow xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
munder
mrow
mi mathvariant=normallim/mi
/mrow
mrow
mil/mi
mo→/mo
mo+/mo
mi∞/mi
/mrow
/munder
/mrow
mo⁡/mo
mrow
mover accent=true
mrow
mif/mi
/mrow
motilde;/mo
/mover
mfenced separators=|
mrow
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mrow
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
mfrac xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mii/mi
mo+/mo
mip/mi
/mrow
mrow
mik/mi
mir/mi
msup
mrow
miσ/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/msup
mo-/mo
mn1/mn
/mrow
/mfrac
/mml:math\stopbuffer{\processxmlbuffer} 

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[NTG-context] setupformulas

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

\setupformulas[way=bychapter,prefixsegments=chapter]

gives (A..1)

But I need (A-1)!


Any idea how the key is called to change this?

Best, Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] setupformulas

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 10.06.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 10.06.2013 um 16:43 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 Hi,
 
 \setupformulas[way=bychapter,prefixsegments=chapter]
 
 gives (A..1)
 
 But I need (A-1)!
 
 
 Any idea how the key is called to change this?
 
 You can change the separator between the section prefix and the formula 
 number with \setupformula[prefixconnector=-].


Is there also a key for a own prefix, eg. my: (my-1)?

Steffen
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[NTG-context] mathml linebreak?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

usually it is possible to break long formulas.

But is there a way to do so, when formula is coded in mathml (see example 
below)?

Thanks, Steffen

---

\placeformula\startformula[9pt]
\setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
miC/mi
miE/mi
/mrow
mrow
miA/mi
/mrow
/msub
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;F/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;+/mo
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;+/mo
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldi/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;-/mo
mfrac xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mn1/mn
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/mfrac
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bold /mi
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=boldK/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bold /mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;-/mo
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normalm/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normala/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normalx/mi
mfenced xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; separators=.
mrow
msub
mrow
miλ/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn1/mn
/mrow
/msub
mo,/mo
msub
mrow
miλ/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/msub
mo,/mo
mo…/mo
mo,/mo
msub
mrow
miλ/mi
/mrow
mrow
min/mi
/mrow
/msub
/mrow
/mfenced
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;·/mo
mfenced xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; open=[ close=] 
separators=.
mrow
mic/mi
mo-/mo
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo+/mo
mil/mi
mfenced separators=.
mrow
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mfenced
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;-/mo
mfrac xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mir/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/mfrac
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mfenced open={ close=} separators=.
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldλ/mi
mi mathvariant=bold /mi
mo⊙/mo
mfenced open=[ close=] separators=.
mrow
mfenced separators=.
mrow
mn1/mn
mo-/mo
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
mo+/mo
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bold /mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=boldΣ/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normal /mi
mfenced xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; open={ close=} 
separators=.
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldλ/mi
mi mathvariant=bold /mi
mo⊙/mo
mfenced open=[ close=] separators=.
mrow
mfenced separators=.
mrow
mn1/mn
mo-/mo
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
mo+/mo
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mfenced
/mml:math\endbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}
\stopformula
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[NTG-context] math guru wanted

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

whats wrong with this formula (see below)?
It runs into error:

! Missing \endgroup inserted.

system   tex  error on line 10 in file 
/Volumes/daten_pro/_AKTUELL/BRUNNER/mathml_test/mathml_test1.tex: Missing  ...

 1 %context
 2 %!TEX TS-program = luatex
 3 
 4 
 5 
 6 \usemodule[mathml] \starttext
 7 
 8 
 9 \setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
10   mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
11 mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;∈/mo
12 mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; 
mathvariant=normala/mi
13 mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; 
mathvariant=normalr/mi
14 mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; 
mathvariant=normalg/mi
15 mrow xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
16 mrow
17 munder
18 mrow
19 mi mathvariant=normalmax/mi
20 /mrow

inserted text 
\endgroup 
to be read again 
\right 
\fakerightdelimiter ...nesting \zerocount \right 
  .\fi 
argument ...imiter \xmlflush {temp::22}\fakerightdelimiter 
  \disabledelimiter 
\firstoftwoarguments #1#2h-#1
 
\15:mml:mrow ...sabledelimiter } {\xmlflush {#1}}
  \endgroup 
...
l.217 /mml:math\endbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}

? 
Process aborted



Steffen
---


\usemodule[mathml] \starttext


\setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;∈/mo
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normala/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normalr/mi
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=normalg/mi
mrow xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
munder
mrow
mi mathvariant=normalmax/mi
/mrow
mrow
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
/mrow
/munder
/mrow
mo⁡/mo
mrow
mfenced open={ close=} separators=.
mrow
miF/mi
mo+/mo
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
mo+/mo
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldi/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo-/mo
mfrac
mrow
mn1/mn
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/mfrac
mi mathvariant=bold /mi
msup
mrow
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi mathvariant=boldK/mi
mi mathvariant=bold /mi
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
mo-/mo
mfenced open=[ close=] separators=.
mrow
mic/mi
mo-/mo
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
mo+/mo
mil/mi
mfenced separators=.
mrow
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mfenced
mo-/mo
mfrac
mrow
mir/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/mfrac
msup
mrow
mfenced open=[ close=] separators=.
mrow
mfenced separators=.
mrow
mn1/mn
mo-/mo
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
mo+/mo
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi mathvariant=bold /mi
mi mathvariant=boldΣ/mi
mfenced open=[ close=] separators=.
mrow
mfenced separators=.
mrow
mn1/mn
mo-/mo
mil/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mi mathvariant=boldv/mi
mo+/mo
mi mathvariant=boldf/mi
/mrow
/mfenced
mo|/mo
mi mathvariant=bold-italic /mi
msup
mrow
mi mathvariant=bolda/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=bold'/mi
/mrow
/msup
mo∈/mo
msubsup
mrow
mi mathvariant=double-struckR/mi
/mrow
mrow
mo+/mo
/mrow
mrow
min/mi
/mrow
/msubsup
/mrow
/mfenced
/mrow
/mrow
/mml:math\endbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}


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[NTG-context] bug with overbar

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Hans,

this seems to be a bug: the overbar should not be set separately again over A



\usemodule[mathml] \starttext


\startbuffer 
math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mover accent=true
mrow
msub
miU/mi
miA/mi
/msub
/mrow
moOverBar;/mo
/mover
/mrow
/math
\stopbuffer{\processxmlbuffer} 

\stoptext



Is there a fix?

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] bug with overbar

[Steffen Wolfrum]

... no. it should look this (see below): $\overline{U_A}$

but coded in MathML.

st.




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[NTG-context] buff_gobble error MathML

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi friends,

we need to run MathML inside \sym (see below).
Is there a way to solve the error ! Argument of \buff_gobble has an extra }.

Thanks, Steffen
---
\usemodule[mathml] \starttext

\setupitemize[1][broad][margin=no,distance=0em,width=0em,align=stretch]

\startitemize[1][width=5cm]

\sym{\startbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mig/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn1/mn
/mrow
/msub
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;,/mo
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; /mi
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mig/mi
/mrow
mrow
mn2/mn
/mrow
/msub
/mml:math\stopbuffer\processxmlbuffer}Vektor

\stopitemize

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Re: [NTG-context] buff_gobble error MathML

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 08.06.2013 um 16:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 08.06.2013 um 12:53 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 Hi friends,
 
 we need to run MathML inside \sym (see below).
 Is there a way to solve the error ! Argument of \buff_gobble has an extra 
 }.
 
 You can’t use \startbuffer … \stopbuffer in other commands but with \setbuffer
 there is a command which can be used here.
 
 \sym{\setbuffer … \endbuffer\processxmlbuffer}



great, thanks. but this immediately gives the next error: invalid xml file - 
parsed text

what's wrong with the code below?

Steffen
---

\usemodule[mathml] \starttext


\setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mn xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;0/mn
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;≤/mo
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
miδ/mi
/mrow
mrow
mij/mi
mis/mi
/mrow
/msub
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;/mo
mroot xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
msub
mrow
mik/mi
/mrow
mrow
mij/mi
/mrow
/msub
msub
mrow
mik/mi
/mrow
mrow
mis/mi
/mrow
/msub
/mrow
mrow/
/mroot
/mml:math\endbuffer\processxmlbuffer

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] mathvariant bold

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

any idea, how to get  it

mi mathvariant=boldp/mi

typeset in bold??



Steffen
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\usemodule[mathml] \starttext

\placeformula\startformula[9pt]
\setbuffer mml:math xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;π/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
msup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldp/mi
/mrow
mrow
mi mathvariant=boldT/mi
/mrow
/msup
mi xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; mathvariant=bolda/mi
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;+/mo
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
miε/mi
/mrow
mrow
miπ/mi
/mrow
/msub
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;=/mo
msubsup xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mo∑/mo
mrow
mij/mi
mo=/mo
mn1/mn
/mrow
mrow
min/mi
/mrow
/msubsup
mrow xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
msub
mrow
mip/mi
/mrow
mrow
mij/mi
/mrow
/msub
msub
mrow
mo·/mo
mia/mi
/mrow
mrow
mij/mi
/mrow
/msub
/mrow
mo xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;+/mo
msub xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
mrow
miε/mi
/mrow
mrow
miπ/mi
/mrow
/msub
/mml:math\endbuffer{\processxmlbuffer}
\stopformula



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[NTG-context] Including section number in reference broken

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

in October 2011 Marco asked how to get an output like this:

I Foo
A Bar
subsection I.A


The example he posted (see below) came to this result:

I Foo
A Bar
subsection A


Then Wolfgang added this line:

\setupreferencestructureprefix[default][prefixsegments=2:*]


But running this advice with todays beta does not have any effect one Marcos 
original example, and it does not lead to the desired ouput.


Is this broken now?

Steffen



%

\definestructureconversionset [myset]
 [
   Romannumerals,
   Romannumerals,
   Romannumerals,
   Character,
 ]
 [numbers]
\setuphead [sectionconversionset=myset]
\setuphead
 [subsection]
 [sectionsegments=subsection]

\starttext
 \startsection [title=Foo]

   \startsubsection [title=Bar, reference=bar]
   \stopsubsection

   \in{subsection}[bar]

 \stopsection
\stoptext

%



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Re: [NTG-context] Include section number in reference

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 13.10.2011 um 22:48 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 13.10.2011 um 22:36 schrieb Marco:
 
 Does anyone have an idea?
 
 What I  do at the moment  is that I manually  reference my
 sections. But  I'm convinced, there's a  neat solution for
 that.
 
 \setupreferencestructureprefix[default][prefixsegments=2:*]
 
 Wolfgang



If I run Marcos example (as seen below), it gives:

I Foo
A Bar
subsection A


But how do we get 
I Foo
A Bar
subsection I.A ??


Steffen
---


\definestructureconversionset [myset]
 [
   Romannumerals,
   Romannumerals,
   Romannumerals,
   Character,
 ]
 [numbers]
\setuphead [sectionconversionset=myset]
\setuphead
 [subsection]
 [sectionsegments=subsection]

\setupreferencestructureprefix[default][prefixsegments=1:*]


 \startsection [title=Foo]

   \startsubsection [title=Bar, reference=bar]
   \stopsubsection

   \in{subsection}[bar]

 \stopsection
 

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[NTG-context] formula in TABLE is not continuous numbered

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

please have a look at this minimal example below:
you'll find three formulas (1), (4), (5)

What happen to (2)  and (3)?

Steffen
...

\starttext

\placeformula \startformula a+b=c \stopformula

\bTABLE[frame=on,align=right,width=fit,style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]}]
\bTR
\bTD[width=35mm]
\placeformula
\startformula c-a=b
\stopformula
\eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE

\placeformula \startformula c-b=a \stopformula

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] formula in TABLE is not continuous numbered

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 12.08.2012 um 22:10 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 12.08.2012 um 21:48 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 Hi,
 
 please have a look at this minimal example below:
 you'll find three formulas (1), (4), (5)
 
 What happen to (2)  and (3)?
 
 Steffen
 ...
 
 \starttext
 
 \placeformula \startformula a+b=c \stopformula
 
 \bTABLE[frame=on,align=right,width=fit,style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]}]
 \bTR
 \bTD[width=35mm]
 \placeformula
 \startformula c-a=b
 \stopformula
 \eTD
 \eTR
 \eTABLE
 
 \placeformula \startformula c-b=a \stopformula
 
 \stoptext
 
 It’s a bug in the formula numbering. Natural tables perform three runs on the 
 table
 content to calculate the cell size but formula etc. counters shouldn’t be 
 increases
 in the first two runs.


great, yet another bug hunted!
and what can be done (on the short-run) to avoid increasing?

is there a handy command to manually count down by two?

steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] formula in TABLE is not continuous numbered

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 12.08.2012 um 22:33 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 12.08.2012 um 22:19 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 
 Am 12.08.2012 um 22:10 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 
 
 Am 12.08.2012 um 21:48 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de:
 
 Hi,
 
 please have a look at this minimal example below:
 you'll find three formulas (1), (4), (5)
 
 What happen to (2)  and (3)?
 
 Steffen
 ...
 
 \starttext
 
 \placeformula \startformula a+b=c \stopformula
 
 \bTABLE[frame=on,align=right,width=fit,style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]}]
 \bTR
 \bTD[width=35mm]
 \placeformula
 \startformula c-a=b
 \stopformula
 \eTD
 \eTR
 \eTABLE
 
 \placeformula \startformula c-b=a \stopformula
 
 \stoptext
 
 It’s a bug in the formula numbering. Natural tables perform three runs on 
 the table
 content to calculate the cell size but formula etc. counters shouldn’t be 
 increases
 in the first two runs.
 
 
 great, yet another bug hunted!
 and what can be done (on the short-run) to avoid increasing?
 
 is there a handy command to manually count down by two?
 
 
 You can replace
 
  \placeformula
 
 with
 
  \doifnotmode{*trialtypesetting}\placeformula
 
 Wolfgang
 

yes we can!

;o)

great, thank you wolfgang
st.
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[NTG-context] math formula linebreak

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

for nice linebreaking we can adjust math formulas by the use of NC, NR 
alignment.

But if someone only wants long formulas to fit in a defined area, and want them 
to break automatically ... is there a handy solution?

(Below are examples that don't work)

Thanks,
Steffen
---


\starttext


\placeformula
\startformula[9pt]
I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
+(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\}-\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
+(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
\stopformula



\defineframedtext
 [defbackground]
 [width=10cm,
  frame=on,
  location=paragraph]


\startdefbackground
\placeformula
\startformula[9pt]
I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
+(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\} -\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
+(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
\stopformula
\stopdefbackground





\definelayer[mylayer]


\setlayerframed
 [mylayer]
 [x=25mm,
  y=85mm,
  height=43.5mm,
  width=10cm,align=block]
 {
 \placeformula
\startformula[9pt]
I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
+(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\} -\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
+(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
\stopformula
 }

\setupbackgrounds[page][background=mylayer]






\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] math formula linebreak

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 09.08.2012 um 22:21 schrieb Prashanth:

 
 On 09/08/12 09:37, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 for nice linebreaking we can adjust math formulas by the use of NC, NR 
 alignment.
 
 But if someone only wants long formulas to fit in a defined area, and want 
 them to break automatically ... is there a handy solution?
 
 (Below are examples that don't work)
 
 Thanks,
 Steffen
 ---
 
 
 \starttext
 
 
 \placeformula
 \startformula[9pt]
 I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
 +(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\}-\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
 +(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
 \stopformula
 
 
 
 \defineframedtext
  [defbackground]
  [width=10cm,
   frame=on,
   location=paragraph]
 
 
 \startdefbackground
 \placeformula
 \startformula[9pt]
 I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
 +(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\} -\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
 +(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
 \stopformula
 \stopdefbackground
 
 
 
 
 
 \definelayer[mylayer]
 
 
 \setlayerframed
  [mylayer]
  [x=25mm,
   y=85mm,
   height=43.5mm,
   width=10cm,align=block]
  {
  \placeformula
 \startformula[9pt]
 I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})
 +(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L Z_{L'})]\big\} -\big\{\pi^U u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})
 +(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.
 \stopformula
  }
 
 \setupbackgrounds[page][background=mylayer]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 \stoptext
 
 When I needed something like that, I used \allowbreak with inlinemath. In 
 your case, you could do:
 \bTABLE[frame=on,align=right,width=10cm]
 \bTR
 \bTD
 $I=\big\{\lambda u(x_0-\pi^H K)\allowbreak+(1-\lambda)[\pi^L 
 u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^L)Z_{L'})\allowbreak+(1-\pi^L)u(x_0-\pi^L 
 Z_{L'})]\big\}\allowbreak -\big\{\pi^U 
 u(x_0-K+(1-\pi^U)Z_{U'})\allowbreak+(1-\pi^U)u(x_0-\pi^U Z_{U'})\big\}.$
 \eTD
 \eTR
 \eTABLE
 
 This will just flow it like regular text. I don't know if this is good enough 
 for your needs. If not, you can add another way to your list of ways ;-).



Hey, you skipped start/stopformula and used a $$ environment?! 
Why not, that's a quite clever approach (... actually, it's a quite efficient 
workaround for my needs).

Thank you Prash, thank you very much!
Steffen
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[NTG-context] alternative=d gives attr

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

\starttext
\subject{Contents}
\setuplist[section][alternative=d]
\placecontent
\section{One}
\section{Two}
\stoptext

while the minimal example above works nicely, my more complex project adds a 
attr in front off the section number (ie. a):

attr a) Test one 47 attr b) Test two 51

Any idea where this attr2 comes from, and how to get rid of it??

Second question: how can I add a separator, like this: 

a) Test one 47  –   b) Test two 51


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Re: [NTG-context] alternative=d gives attr

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 30.07.2012 um 12:46 schrieb luigi scarso:

 
 
 On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de 
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 \starttext
 \subject{Contents}
 \setuplist[section][alternative=d]
 \placecontent
 \section{One}
 \section{Two}
 \stoptext
 
 while the minimal example above works nicely, my more complex project adds a 
 attr in front off the section number (ie. a):
 
 attr a) Test one 47 attr b) Test two 51
 
 Any idea where this attr2 comes from, and how to get rid of it??
 
  
 With latest mkiv I see this:
 Contents
 1 One 1 2 Two 1
 1 One
 2 Two


me too. only my real project gives instead:

 attr a) Test one 47 attr b) Test two 51

... and none of my style/environment files contain the phrase attr!!

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] alternative=d gives attr

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Am 30.07.2012 um 12:47 schrieb Marco Patzer:

 On 2012-07-30 Steffen Wolfrum cont...@st.estfiles.de wrote:
 
 Hi Steffen,
 
 Any idea where this attr2 comes from, and how to get rid of it??
 
 Sorry, no clue.
 
 Second question: how can I add a separator, like this: 
 
 a) Test one 47   –   b) Test two 51
 
 \setuplist
  [section]
  [alternative=d,
   textcommand=\SectionCommand]
 
 \define[1]\SectionCommand{#1 --}

sorry, but this results in:
1 One – 1 2 Two – 1

what I am looking for is this:
1 One 1  –  2 Two 1

ie. a seperator between consecutive entries

Steffen
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[NTG-context] alternative=d (right margin needed)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

please have a look at the attached screenshot:
there you see two TOC entries set alternative=d (after pagenumber 360 and 381).

what can be done to make them stop at the vertical blue line, too?

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[NTG-context] notes placed left, right aligned

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

my footnotes don't behave as they did three months ago ...

I wanted the footnote's number left from the footnote's text,
but these numbers should be right aligned:
so that the ones (eg. in 1 and 21 and 201) are exactly on top of each 
other

any idea how to achieve this?

Thanks, Steffen

---

\starttext

\setupbodyfont[times,6pt]

\setupnotation[footnote][alternative=left,width=12pt,distance=4.80pt]

\dorecurse{111}{test\footnote{\input ward\par}}

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] notes placed left, right aligned

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 29.07.2012 um 18:27 schrieb Peter Münster:

 On Sun, Jul 29 2012, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 
 but these numbers should be right aligned:
 so that the ones (eg. in 1 and 21 and 201) are exactly on top of each 
 other
 
 any idea how to achieve this?
 
 \def\NumberCommand#1{\rightaligned{#1}} % or:
 \def\NumberCommand#1{\hfill#1}
 
 \setupnotation[footnote][alternative=left,width=12pt,distance=4.80pt,
numbercommand=\NumberCommand]


Yes numbercommand, that's it! 

I wanted command=\NumberCommand with \def\NumberCommand#1{\rightaligned{#1}} 
... and that failed.

Thanks a lot!
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 26.07.2012 um 19:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Hans, hi friends,
 
 while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications 
 that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with 
 CID/Encoding Identity-H.
 
 For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not 
 recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space 
 between?).
 
 I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind 
 of encoding.
 
 Is this also possible with MkIV?
 
 afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes 
 wrong there

me neither.

the pdf produced with MkII never ran into this post-processing trouble.
they had this font info, eg.:

Type: Type 1
Encoding: Custom

while all fonts I have tested with MkIV result in this:

Type: Type 1 (CID)
Encoding: Identity-H

and this double-byte encoding confuses the pdf-post-processing machines (I was 
told).
therefore we are asked to change it.

is there a chance to do so?


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Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 27.07.2012 um 11:50 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 27-7-2012 11:36, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 
 Am 26.07.2012 um 19:35 schrieb Hans Hagen:
 
 On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Hans, hi friends,
 
 while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some 
 applications that use these PDF files for post-processing have big 
 problems with CID/Encoding Identity-H.
 
 For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not 
 recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space 
 between?).
 
 I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this 
 kind of encoding.
 
 Is this also possible with MkIV?
 
 afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes 
 wrong there
 
 me neither.
 
 the pdf produced with MkII never ran into this post-processing trouble.
 they had this font info, eg.:
 
 Type: Type 1
 Encoding: Custom
 
 probably not always, i.e. when ttf fonts were used it would use those and 
 related embedding methods but hardly anyone uses ttf in pdftex
 
 while all fonts I have tested with MkIV result in this:
 
 Type: Type 1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H
 
 and this double-byte encoding confuses the pdf-post-processing machines (I 
 was told).
 therefore we are asked to change it.
 
 you can try to send them ps (pdftops)
 
 is there a chance to do so?
 
 they should update their machines (read: there is no way that luatex will 
 provide split into type1 functionality)
 
 (Luigi and Martin probably can explain it better)


yes, please! I am very interested in more information on this, as I expect hard 
talks.

the problem is that more and more our context PDF files are not used as print 
files, nor as classical PDF files.
there main use tends to be as feed material for Flash and other applications 
that reprocess our PDF file for on-line environments, subscribers.

Steffen
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[NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Hans, hi friends,

while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications 
that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with 
CID/Encoding Identity-H.

For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not 
recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space between?).

I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind of 
encoding.

Is this also possible with MkIV?

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Re: [NTG-context] Local TOC after each chapter title (was: Re: Need help)

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Am 18.07.2012 um 16:56 schrieb Marco:

 On 2012-07-18 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When you use the start/stop-commands you can use “insidesection=…”
 which comes after the “after” key.
 
 Nice, I didn't know that one, yet. Wikified under \setupheads.


I searched for insidesection on this garden's page ...

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead

... but couldn't find it. Is there yet another page for \setupheads?

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[NTG-context] PDF links wrong on Windows

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I just finished a book project with MkIV vers. 2012.04.14 00:10.

When opening the PDF on Mac, all bookmarks link to the correct page.
when opening the PDF on Windows, all bookmarks link to a wrong page (page 
number plus one).

Is this a know issue?


Thanks, Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF links wrong on Windows

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 21.06.2012 um 14:55 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 21-6-2012 14:35, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just finished a book project with MkIV vers. 2012.04.14 00:10.
 
 When opening the PDF on Mac, all bookmarks link to the correct page.
 when opening the PDF on Windows, all bookmarks link to a wrong page (page 
 number plus one).
 
 Is this a know issue?
 
 Not to me but I've never opened a pdf on the mac with bookmarks. Hwo do other 
 viewers behave?


On Mac I tested with different viewers (AcrobatPro, AcroReader, Mac's Preview): 
all give the same correct behaviour.

On Win7 I tested with Acrobat: false.
the strange thing here is, when I look at the bookmark's properties, they show 
the correct page number as target action. Only when pressing the link, the 
result gets plus one!

@Hans: do you want to test the pdf yourself?

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF links wrong on Windows

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Am 21.06.2012 um 15:53 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:


 And in that case, it was not really linking to the next page, but to the
 very bottom of the correct page (with \setupinteraction[focus=standard])


I only used \setupinteraction[state=start], no focus, nothing fancy. 
Nothing funny ;o(

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Re: [NTG-context] figures

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Nice feature!

Thanks,
Steffen


Am 14.06.2012 um 09:56 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 Hi,
 
 I probably forgot to tell, but since a fee betas we have
 
 \setupexternalfigures
  [order={pdf,png,jpg},
   directory={./images},
   ..]
 
 i.e. the order key can enforce the quality order as well as limit the amount 
 of lookups (which saves time when images are -still- missing)
 
 Hans
 
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[NTG-context] japanese spaced

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

if a paragraph is set to align=block the space between words can be stretched.

If eg. a japanese word is mentioned in such a paragraph the space between the 
japanes characters gets spaced/stretched too (see example attached).

This may be right for japanese texts, but it is wrong if the main/surrounding 
language is not japanese (and thus no additional space between characters is 
wanted).

What is an easy way to avoid this? 
\definestartstop [Japaned] [commands={\language[jp]\DoNotSpace}]??

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[NTG-context] change the page number

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

how do I change the page number?
In april and may versions it does not work anymore:



\setuppagenumber[number=5]% no effect
\setuprealpagenumber[number=5]% no effect
\setuppagenumber[number=5]% no effect

%\setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=Romannumerals]% works OK!

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\page}

%\setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=numbers]% works OK!


\dorecurse{3}{\input ward\page}

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] placefigure adds break

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

please have a look at thee example below:
I have a long paragraph (more than 3 pages), and I want to set a float/figure 
at top of page 2.
Thus, I need to write \placefigure *in* my paragraph, between two words.

How can I do that without adding a paragraph break after the respective word 
(marked HERE)?

Steffen
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\starttext

\switchtobodyfont[rm,10pt]

\input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf 
\input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf HERE 
\placefigure[top]{}{\vskip3pt{\externalfigure[foo][frame=off,width=\dimexpr(\textwidth-10mm)]}}\input
 tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input 
tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte 
\input ward \input zapf 

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] [***NOSPAM***] placefigure adds break

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Am 05.04.2012 um 13:25 schrieb luigi scarso:

 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
 (Untested)
 
 \startpostponing[+1]
 \placefigure[top]{}{...}
 \stoppostponing
 
 Rest of the text
 
 
 Aditya
 \starttext
 
 \switchtobodyfont[rm,10pt]
 
 \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input
 zapf \input tufte \input ward %
 \input zapf \input tufte \input ward %
 \input zapf HERE%
 \startpostponing[+1]
 \placefigure[top]{}{\vskip3pt\externalfigure[foo][frame=off,width=\dimexpr(\textwidth-10mm)]}
 \stoppostponing%
 AND HERE \input tufte \input ward %
 \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input
 ward \input zapf \input tufte %
 \input ward \input zapf \input tufte \input ward \input zapf
 
 \stoptext
 
 seems ok



indeed, a great result.
(searching for this command now, I saw that it's a quite old command ... only I 
never knew it)

thanks a lot Aditya and Luigi!

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Re: [NTG-context] Custom TOC problem

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Michał,

Am 02.04.2012 um 11:57 schrieb Michał Goliński:

 Hi,
 
 this is the first time I am writing here so let me just say a big THANK YOU 
 for all the awesome work everyone is doing.
 
 Now, to the point. I have been trying to customize table of contents with my 
 own commands, yet I get an error that might be from within ConTeXt. The 
 cutomary minimal example follows:
 
 
 \define[3]\M{#3 some  #2 magic #1}
 \setuplist[section][alternative=command,command=\M]
 
 \starttext
 \section{A}
 \completecontent
 \stoptext
 
 
 and the error from the log:
 
 ConTeXt  ver: 2012.03.30 16:16 MKIV  fmt: 2012.4.2  int: english/english
 
 
 
 ! Argument of \M has an extra }.
 
 Best regards
 Michał Goliński



I use this:

\unexpanded\def\M#1#2#3{#3 some  #2 magic #1}
\setuplist[section][alternative=command,command=\M]

\starttext
\section{A}
\completecontent
\stoptext


Steffen

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[NTG-context] stretched hyphenated url

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I, personally, like the solution for hyphenated url (by stretching).
Only a author of mine feels that it was too much (see attached, first line).

Is there a way to adjust the degree of stretching?

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] stretched hyphenated url

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Am 30.03.2012 um 20:10 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 30-3-2012 10:01, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I, personally, like the solution for hyphenated url (by stretching).
 Only a author of mine feels that it was too much (see attached, first line).
 
 Is there a way to adjust the degree of stretching?
 
 \def\lang_url_space{\nobreak\hskip\zeropoint plus\onepoint\nobreak}


thank you for the fast help! I made some testing and found a value that 
stretches nicely in my document.
did I understand it correctly that I can only make this change *globally*, ie. 
in lang-url.mkiv plus regenerating the formats?

st.
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Re: [NTG-context] Removing the quotes from the results of the reference links

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Hi Jaroslav,

Am 29.03.2012 um 08:50 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:

 Hello all,
 I can not find a way to remove the quotes from the results of the reference 
 link
 Can someone help?
 
 Thanx
 Jaroslav Hajtmar
 
 Here is minimal example:
 
 
 \starttext
 
 \section[first]{First}
 
 \subsection[second]{Second}
 
 \input tufte
 
 \in{(see section}{ \about[second] at page \at[second])}[second].
 
 
 \stoptext


I use this:

\setupreferencing[left=,right=,width=]

Steffen

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[NTG-context] table of content not set flushbottom

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi Hans,

due to the size of my project I cannot send a minimal:
but did you remove the TOC's ability to vertically stretch?

I did not change any of my styles/environment, 
and with version 2012.03.13 now the TOC is not set flushbottom anymore.

Do I have to add/change something now?
Or was that a side-effect that is fixed with a more recent version?

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Re: [NTG-context] table of content not set flushbottom

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Am 27.03.2012 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 27-3-2012 16:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Hans,
 
 due to the size of my project I cannot send a minimal:
 but did you remove the TOC's ability to vertically stretch?
 
 not that I know of (but you can always set after to some value)

this sounds good, even though I don't know what you mean.
can you show how-to?

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \setbreakpoints[compound] does not work

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Hi,

is there a reason why hyphenation of compound Lwk-Maut does not work in 
following example?


\showframe
\mainlanguage[de]
\setbreakpoints[compound]

\setnumber[footnote][114]

\starttext

test
{\startfootnote[ftn115]
siehe Schlussbericht der zuständigen Bund-Länder-Arbeitsgruppe 
„Verkehrsverlagerungen info Lkw-Maut“, BT-Dr16/298 v.~13.\,12.\,2005, 2, 3.
\stopfootnote}. 

\stoptext

Steffen
(vers. 2012.03.13)
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Re: [NTG-context] [***NOSPAM***] \setbreakpoints[compound] does not work

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Am 25.03.2012 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 25-3-2012 13:34, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 \showframe
 \mainlanguage[de]
 \setbreakpoints[compound]
 
 \setnumber[footnote][114]
 
 \starttext
 
 test
 {\startfootnote[ftn115]
 siehe Schlussbericht der zuständigen Bund-Länder-Arbeitsgruppe 
 „Verkehrsverlagerungen info Lkw-Maut“, BT-Dr16/298 v.~13.\,12.\,2005, 2, 3.
 \stopfootnote}.
 
 \stoptext
 
 It's something that is still not settled: what to reset when page building 
 happens cq. we're in 'forget' mode. Anyhow, we can (stepwise) make some 
 features global:
 
 in typo-brk.mkiv:
 
 \definesystemattribute[breakpoint][public,global]


thanks for this fast help!

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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes bychapter

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Am 06.03.2012 um 19:46 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 6-3-2012 18:29, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 This works with the November beta, but not the current:
 
 \setupfootnotes[way=bychapter,
 location=page,
 rule=off]
 
 \starttext
 
 \startchapter[title=One]
 
 Chapter\footnote{Note 1} with two\footnote{Note 2} footnotes.
 
 \stopchapter
 
 \startchapter[title=Two]
 
 Chapter\footnote{Should be Note 1} with two additional\footnote{should
 be Note 2} footnotes.
 
 \stopchapter
 
 \stoptext
 
 Bug, or has the syntax changed?
 
 no, just something 'not done yet' (but will be done asap, some setup 
 synchronization code needed)


Is there meanwhile a context version that provides way=... again?

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes bychapter

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Am 24.03.2012 um 17:34 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 24.03.2012 um 17:29 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
 
 Is there meanwhile a context version that provides way=... again?
 
 
 What doesn’t work?
 
 \setupnotation[footnote][way=chapter]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{One}
 
 text\footnote{One: first} text\footnote{One: second}
 
 \chapter{Two}
 
 text\footnote{Two: first} text\footnote{Two: second}
 
 \stoptext

ah, 
\setupfootnotes[way=bychapter]
didn't became 
\setupnote[footnote][way=bychapter]
but 
\setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]

good to know ;o)

st.




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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes bychapter

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Am 24.03.2012 um 18:14 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 
 Am 24.03.2012 um 17:54 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
 
 
 Am 24.03.2012 um 17:34 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 
 
 Am 24.03.2012 um 17:29 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
 
 Is there meanwhile a context version that provides way=... again?
 
 
 What doesn’t work?
 
 \setupnotation[footnote][way=chapter]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{One}
 
 text\footnote{One: first} text\footnote{One: second}
 
 \chapter{Two}
 
 text\footnote{Two: first} text\footnote{Two: second}
 
 \stoptext
 
 ah, 
 \setupfootnotes[way=bychapter]
 didn't became 
 \setupnote[footnote][way=bychapter]
 
 That would make no sense because \setupfootnotes is defined as 
 \def\setupfootnotes{\setupnote[footnote]} which means both are the same setup.
 
 \setupnotation[footnote][way=bychapter]
 
 The footnote counter is created by \definenotation (which is called when you 
 create a new note with \definenote) and the fore you need \setupnotation to 
 change it.


ok, interesting

thanks a lot!
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Re: [NTG-context] interaction kills hyperlinks

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Am 22.03.2012 um 22:37 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 22-3-2012 16:09, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 [as the first posting was labeled spam, I try it once more:]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 it's probably a rare case: URL with comma.
 
 Just by chance I found that these URL kill hyperlinks when interaction is 
 active:
 
 \setupinteraction
   [state=start]
 
 \starttext
 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)]
 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html}}[url(http://www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html)]
 
 \stoptext
 
 Strange, isn't?
 
 not at all, as between [] there can be a list of actions to be done, in your 
 case only one; so put {} around it:
 
 1: 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[{url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)}]
 
 2: 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html}}[{url(http://www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html)}]



ah that's the reason, of course.

thanks a lot for your reply!
st.
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Re: [NTG-context] interaction kills hyperlinks

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 23.03.2012 um 08:49 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 
 Am 22.03.2012 um 22:37 schrieb Hans Hagen:
 
 On 22-3-2012 16:09, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 [as the first posting was labeled spam, I try it once more:]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 it's probably a rare case: URL with comma.
 
 Just by chance I found that these URL kill hyperlinks when interaction is 
 active:
 
 \setupinteraction
  [state=start]
 
 \starttext
 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)]
 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html}}[url(http://www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html)]
 
 \stoptext
 
 Strange, isn't?
 
 not at all, as between [] there can be a list of actions to be done, in your 
 case only one; so put {} around it:
 
 1: 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[{url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)}]
 
 2: 
 \goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html}}[{url(http://www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html)}]



your example (1) does not work:


\setupinteraction
   [state=start]

\starttext

text 
\goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[{url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)}]

test\footnote{\goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[{url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)}]}

\stoptext


Steffen 
(vers. 2012.03.13)

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \about without quotes

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

how can I get rid of the quotes around about's output (see below)?


\starttext

\chapter[
reference={ref123},
title={Titel},
  marking={Titel},
 list={Titel},
 bookmark={Titel}]


see in \at[ref123] \about[ref123]

(should be “1 Titel”)

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] [***NOSPAM***] \about without quotes

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 23.03.2012 um 09:59 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 Hi,
 
 how can I get rid of the quotes around about's output (see below)?
 
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter[
 reference={ref123},
title={Titel},
  marking={Titel},
 list={Titel},
 bookmark={Titel}]
 
 
 see in \at[ref123] \about[ref123]
 
 (should be “1 Titel”)
 
 \stoptext



\setupreferencing[left=,right=]

This woks, ie. changes \about output too.
But how can I be sure I changed *only* \about output?

Steffen
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[NTG-context] reference \about shall not be shortened

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

how can I avoid shortening of referenced titles?


\setupreferencing[left=,right=]

\starttext

\chapter[
reference={ref123},
title={This is a long titel -- every word is meaningful and shall not be 
omitted},
  marking={Titel},
 list={Titel},
 bookmark={Titel}]

see in “\at[ref123] \about[ref123]”.

\stoptext



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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] interaction kills hyperlinks??

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

it's probably a rare case: URL with comma.

Just by chance I found that these URL kill hyperlinks when interaction is 
active:

\setupinteraction
   [state=start]

\starttext

\goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html}}[url(http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,288433,00.html)]

\goto{\hyphenatedurl{www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html}}[url(http://www.ftd.de/politik/deutschland/1058704515970.html)]
 

\stoptext


Strange, isn't?

Steffen
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