Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
On 5/21/2013 11:35 PM, Romain Diss wrote: We've already got \setdigitmode, \setdigitorder, and \setdigitspace; it might make sense to create a \setupdigits to consolidate these setups into one interface. Something like this: \setupdigits [mode=4, % --\setdigitmode{4} % (decimal period, thinspace between groups) inputdecimalmark={,}, % --\setdigitorder{0} signspace=yes,% --\setdigitsign{1}; '+ 1.4', not '+1.4' times=\times, % or times=\cdot ] +1 P.s: I've been thinking I'd like to write more contexty interface that doesn't use predefined modes, but lets you setup the decimal mark, separator mark, the input decimal mark, etc. Something like this: \setupdigits [inputdecimal={.}, % input 3.1415926535 decimal={,} separator=\space, groupsize=4, % output 3,1415 9265 45 signspace=,] % +3.14159... That could even tie into \setuplanguage to allow setting language-specific defaults. Would anyone be interested in this? +1 again! needs a bit of thinking as when we start this route we get lots of new keywords (with the danger of introducing inconsistencies) so first we need to collect all potential candidates for such keys (e.g. using separator might be too generic ) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Le mercredi 22 mai 2013, Hans Hagen a écrit : On 5/21/2013 11:35 PM, Romain Diss wrote: We've already got \setdigitmode, \setdigitorder, and \setdigitspace; it might make sense to create a \setupdigits to consolidate these setups into one interface. Something like this: \setupdigits [mode=4, % --\setdigitmode{4} % (decimal period, thinspace between groups) inputdecimalmark={,}, % --\setdigitorder{0} signspace=yes,% --\setdigitsign{1}; '+ 1.4', not '+1.4' times=\times, % or times=\cdot ] +1 P.s: I've been thinking I'd like to write more contexty interface that doesn't use predefined modes, but lets you setup the decimal mark, separator mark, the input decimal mark, etc. Something like this: \setupdigits [inputdecimal={.}, % input 3.1415926535 decimal={,} separator=\space, groupsize=4, % output 3,1415 9265 45 signspace=,] % +3.14159... That could even tie into \setuplanguage to allow setting language-specific defaults. Would anyone be interested in this? +1 again! needs a bit of thinking as when we start this route we get lots of new keywords (with the danger of introducing inconsistencies) so first we need to collect all potential candidates for such keys (e.g. using separator might be too generic ) I don't know if it is possible and can not estimate how much work it represents but maybe one can consider to merge the digit part of the \digits and \unit code. The \unit command would then use the same code as the \digit one to format the digit part. Then, the \unit code would use a specific code to format the unit part. This would make it possible to configure the digit formatting with one unique command for both \unit and \digit and another command would be used to configure the formating of the unit part. -- Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Hi, is it possible to change the behaviour of \digits to have \cdot as in http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0003.pdf page 2 (table at the bottom) instead of \times as shown in the latest units-mkiv-document http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf pages 67? Thanks for your advise Christian Prim Example: \unit{10.5e3 Newton} should produce 10.5\cdot 10^3 N and not 10.5\times 10^3 N (also tested in the latest version at http://live.contextgarden.net/) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Christian Prim a écrit : is it possible to change the behaviour of \digits to have \cdot as in http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0003.pdf page 2 (table at the bottom) instead of \times as shown in the latest units-mkiv-document http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf pages 67? Seems to be hardcoded in phys-dim.mkiv for the moment: l. 173-175 \unexpanded\def\digitspower #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerplus #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerminus #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}} ntextgarden.net/) -- Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
On 5/21/2013 11:44 AM, Romain Diss wrote: Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Christian Prim a écrit : is it possible to change the behaviour of \digits to have \cdot as in http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0003.pdf page 2 (table at the bottom) instead of \times as shown in the latest units-mkiv-document http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf pages 67? Seems to be hardcoded in phys-dim.mkiv for the moment: l. 173-175 \unexpanded\def\digitspower #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerplus #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerminus #1{\times10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}} ntextgarden.net/) there are several ways we can deal with this: % \def\digitstimessymbol{\symbol[units][times]} % \definesymbol[units][times][\times] % \definesymbol[units][times][\cdots] % \definesymbol[units][times][\kern.2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth] \def\digitstimessymbol{\times} \def\digitstimessymbol{\cdot} \def\digitstimessymbol{\kern.2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth} \unprotect \unexpanded\def\digitspower #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_digits_raised{#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerplus #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}} \unexpanded\def\digitspowerminus #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}} \protect or maybe a key/value in setuptimes .. not sure yet Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Thanks for the tip Hans, but the kerning in \def\digitstimessymbol{\kern.**2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth} should not take place in mathmode, only in textmode. Else the space is too big. Don't know how to deal with that. Christian 2013/5/21 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl On 5/21/2013 11:44 AM, Romain Diss wrote: Le lundi 20 mai 2013, Christian Prim a écrit : is it possible to change the behaviour of \digits to have \cdot as in http://www.pragma-ade.com/**general/magazines/mag-0003.pdfhttp://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0003.pdfpage 2 (table at the bottom) instead of \times as shown in the latest units-mkiv-document http://www.pragma-ade.com/**general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdfhttp://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdfpages 67? Seems to be hardcoded in phys-dim.mkiv for the moment: l. 173-175 \unexpanded\def\digitspower #1{\times10\phys_digits_**raised{#1}} \unexpanded\def\**digitspowerplus #1{\times10\phys_digits_**raised{\digitsplus#1}} \unexpanded\def\**digitspowerminus #1{\times10\phys_digits_**raised{\digitsminus#1}} ntextgarden.net/) there are several ways we can deal with this: % \def\digitstimessymbol{\**symbol[units][times]} % \definesymbol[units][times][\**times] % \definesymbol[units][times][\**cdots] % \definesymbol[units][times][\**kern.2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\**emwidth] \def\digitstimessymbol{\times} \def\digitstimessymbol{\cdot} \def\digitstimessymbol{\kern.**2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth} \unprotect \unexpanded\def\digitspower #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_** digits_raised{#1}} \unexpanded\def\**digitspowerplus #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_** digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}} \unexpanded\def\**digitspowerminus #1{\digitstimessymbol10\phys_** digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}} \protect or maybe a key/value in setuptimes .. not sure yet Hans --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
On 5/21/2013 5:15 PM, Christian Prim wrote: Thanks for the tip Hans, but the kerning in \def\digitstimessymbol{\kern.__2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth} should not take place in mathmode, only in textmode. Else the space is too big. Don't know how to deal with that. \def\digitstimessymbol{\mathortext{\cdot}{\kern.2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth}} - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Now it's perfect! Will this be included in the next version of context? Christian 2013/5/21 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl On 5/21/2013 5:15 PM, Christian Prim wrote: Thanks for the tip Hans, but the kerning in \def\digitstimessymbol{\kern._**_2\emwidth\cdot\kern.2\**emwidth} should not take place in mathmode, only in textmode. Else the space is too big. Don't know how to deal with that. \def\digitstimessymbol{\**mathortext{\cdot}{\kern.2\** emwidth\cdot\kern.2\emwidth}} --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
Hi Hans, Christian Prim wrote: is it possible to change the behaviour of \digits to have \cdot [...] instead of \times [...]? Hans wrote: there are several ways we can deal with this: [...] or maybe a key/value in setuptimes .. not sure yet We've already got \setdigitmode, \setdigitorder, and \setdigitspace; it might make sense to create a \setupdigits to consolidate these setups into one interface. Something like this: \setupdigits [mode=4, % --\setdigitmode{4} % (decimal period, thinspace between groups) inputdecimalmark={,}, % --\setdigitorder{0} signspace=yes,% --\setdigitsign{1}; '+ 1.4', not '+1.4' times=\times, % or times=\cdot ] Cheers, Sietse --- P.s: I've been thinking I'd like to write more contexty interface that doesn't use predefined modes, but lets you setup the decimal mark, separator mark, the input decimal mark, etc. Something like this: \setupdigits [inputdecimal={.}, % input 3.1415926535 decimal={,} separator=\space, groupsize=4, % output 3,1415 9265 45 signspace=,] % +3.14159... That could even tie into \setuplanguage to allow setting language-specific defaults. Would anyone be interested in this? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \digits get \times instead of \cdot before exponent
We've already got \setdigitmode, \setdigitorder, and \setdigitspace; it might make sense to create a \setupdigits to consolidate these setups into one interface. Something like this: \setupdigits [mode=4, % --\setdigitmode{4} % (decimal period, thinspace between groups) inputdecimalmark={,}, % --\setdigitorder{0} signspace=yes,% --\setdigitsign{1}; '+ 1.4', not '+1.4' times=\times, % or times=\cdot ] +1 P.s: I've been thinking I'd like to write more contexty interface that doesn't use predefined modes, but lets you setup the decimal mark, separator mark, the input decimal mark, etc. Something like this: \setupdigits [inputdecimal={.}, % input 3.1415926535 decimal={,} separator=\space, groupsize=4, % output 3,1415 9265 45 signspace=,] % +3.14159... That could even tie into \setuplanguage to allow setting language-specific defaults. Would anyone be interested in this? +1 again! -- Romain Diss romain.d...@yahoo.fr ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___