Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:37:28 +0100
Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr wrote:
Fair enough. Here:
.
\setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
{\bf Bibliography}
\nocite[hh2010a,hh2010b,Eijkhout1991]
\placepublications
\stoptext
Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or
\placepublications[criterium=text]?
biblio.bib is a file already known to some:
So it's sample.bib. It would have made helping easier if
you had said that.
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
Le 12 mars à 11:09:55 Thomas Schmitz tschm...@uni-bonn.de écrit notamment:
| On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:37:28 +0100
| Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr wrote:
| Fair enough. Here:
| .
| \setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
| \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
|
| \starttext
|
|
| {\bf Bibliography}
|
| \nocite[hh2010a,hh2010b,Eijkhout1991]
| \placepublications
| \stoptext
|
| Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or
| \placepublications[criterium=text]?
These are working, thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? Hi Thomas, you gave me exactly the same hint last week. We should add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki (Bibliography MKIV page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv). In the beginning it was not clear to me, that http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography refers to the MKII implementation of Taco. Therefore, I would suggest to rename Bibliography to Bibliography_mkii and create an alias Bibliography that redirects to Bibliography_mkiv instead. In the wiki pages Bibliography_mkiv and Bibliography_mkii the first sentence should state that the page is related to mkii/mkiv only and link to the other page. Do you think this is reasonable? I would like to add a section on customising bibstyle files and add space for sharing reference styles of different journals. What do you think? In general I find it difficult to differentiate between mkiv and mkii related information in the wiki. How could we better structure the wiki to make it easier for the reader? Disambiguation pages, mkiv/mkii sections, independent pages with mkiv/mkii in headerline? Best, Florian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
Hi Florian, On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? Hi Thomas, you gave me exactly the same hint last week. Not only that, but someone gave exactly the same hint to Jean in December... We should add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki (Bibliography MKIV page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv). You are of course right, but I assume Hans is working on bibliographies right now (he promised to finish something which I need for a project in March, so that leaves him another two weeks ;-), so we should maybe wait a bit. criterium=cite should work as well, but doesn't right now. In the beginning it was not clear to me, that http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography refers to the MKII implementation of Taco. Therefore, I would suggest to rename Bibliography to Bibliography_mkii and create an alias Bibliography that redirects to Bibliography_mkiv instead. In the wiki pages Bibliography_mkiv and Bibliography_mkii the first sentence should state that the page is related to mkii/mkiv only and link to the other page. Do you think this is reasonable? I had begun rewriting the page. There is now http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliographies which links to the other pages, and which is linked to on the front page. But another context-related project kept me away from this and I never finished this, so fell free to shuffle and rewrite things! I would like to add a section on customising bibstyle files and add space for sharing reference styles of different journals. What do you think? Again, that's a very good idea, but we should maybe wait just a bit till the dust settles a bit. In general I find it difficult to differentiate between mkiv and mkii related information in the wiki. How could we better structure the wiki to make it easier for the reader? Disambiguation pages, mkiv/mkii sections, independent pages with mkiv/mkii in headerline? Just my 2 cents on this: difficult, because you won't be able to make everybody happy. Every now and then, I see a new user on the list who asks about installing mkiv and doesn't realize that it is not really something which you have to install additionally. We shouldn't scare those users because in so many cases, mkii and mkiv are exactly identical, so that would be an arguments against a too stric separation. But of course you're also right that it's frustrating for users if they can't find relevant information for the areas where the two differ. As long as mkiv hasn't settled, this is not easy... All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Thomas Schmitz tschm...@uni-bonn.dewrote: Hi Florian, On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? We should add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki (Bibliography MKIV page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv). You are of course right, but I assume Hans is working on bibliographies right now (he promised to finish something which I need for a project in March, so that leaves him another two weeks ;-), so we should maybe wait a bit. criterium=cite should work as well, but doesn't right now. This is exciting. I think it's very important that we throw out BibTeX altogether in MkIV, and I hope that this work Hans is doing right now is somehow related to it. If it were ever possible to implement bibliography styles with something akin to string.format Lua calls, well, who wouldn't love that kind of flexibility? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
Using the last mkiv from the minimals, \setuppublications seems out
of order.
If I write:
..
\setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
{\bf Bibliography}
\nocite[foo, bla, blu]
\placepublications
\stoptext
...
the pub list is empty. But if comment out this line the bibliography
is
printed; it works also ok with
\setuppublications[]
Difficult to answer, I don't have the file /home/jean/biblio. Maybe
make a real example?
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
Le 11 mars à 13:00:51 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de écrit
notamment:
| On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
| Using the last mkiv from the minimals, \setuppublications seems out
| of order.
|
| If I write:
| ..
| \setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
| \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
|
| \starttext
|
|
| {\bf Bibliography}
|
| \nocite[foo, bla, blu]
| \placepublications
| \stoptext
| ...
|
| the pub list is empty. But if comment out this line the bibliography
| is
| printed; it works also ok with
|
| \setuppublications[]
|
| Difficult to answer, I don't have the file /home/jean/biblio. Maybe
| make a real example?
Fair enough. Here:
.
\setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
{\bf Bibliography}
\nocite[hh2010a,hh2010b,Eijkhout1991]
\placepublications
\stoptext
biblio.bib is a file already known to some:
@STRING{hh = {Hans Hagen}}
@ELECTRONIC{hh2010,
author = hh,
year = {2010},
title = {Metafun. \CONTEXT\ mkiv},
url = {http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/metafun-s.pdf},
}
@ARTICLE{hh2010a,
author = hh,
title = {The Font Name Mess},
journal = {MAPS},
year = {2010},
volume = {40},
pages = {2-8},
keywords = {context},
}
@ARTICLE{hh2010b,
author = hh,
title = {Grouping in Hybrid Environments},
journal = {MAPS},
year = {2010},
volume = {40},
pages = {67-71},
keywords = {context},
}
@BOOK{Eijkhout1991,
title = {\TeX\ by Topic. A \TeX nician's Reference},
publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
year = {1991},
author = {Victor Eijkhout},
address = {London},
keywords = {general},
}
...
With mkiv I get an output without the bibliography; but dropping
alternative=apa everything is fine (I tried other alternatives).
tia,
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[NTG-context] \setuppublications problem
Hi all,
Using the last mkiv from the minimals, \setuppublications seems out of order.
If I write:
..
\setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa]
\starttext
{\bf Bibliography}
\nocite[foo, bla, blu]
\placepublications
\stoptext
...
the pub list is empty. But if comment out this line the bibliography is
printed; it works also ok with
\setuppublications[]
--
Jean
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