Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:22:19PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake said that
 You definitely haven't seen our network administators. The proxy we run:
 
 Generated by squid/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This version is from 1997 at best. Not many people have a great deal
 of faith in them.

there are quite a few vulnarabilities for squid this old, hint hint :)

but a banner is only a banner, don't forget that.  maybe your admins are
much more trickier than anticipated :)

indeed.  a quick nmap reveals that the machine could very well be a fortress...





-ok, so i presume you can't turn off the proxy...

if you can access http://www.dnsstuff.com/ you could test
that others are able to resolve the contextgarden.net domains.



-i also presume that you tried to access using the ip number...

-you could try to use the google cache... e.g.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:2s7Cg-h7AcwJ:wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page+contextgardenhl=enct=clnkcd=1

but of course, this is a cache...  so some stuff will be outdated.

-you could try going thru a web anonymizer..


still, doens't make sense for me - filtering contextgarden.net
there isn't even a dirty word in the url :)

best of luck, 
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Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-10 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:10:48AM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
 Is there any downloadable copy of the Context Garden site that is not
 on the Context Garden website?
 
 At my school unfortunately we don't seem to be able to get through to
 context garden wiki. But trying to get into ConTeXt would likely be
 much smoother with access to the information.
 
 Any help is appreciated.

I think you need help from the network administrator at _your_ side.

Start at least to describe what you (can) see from
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page

Mmm, that is allready the URL that you get after going
to http://www.contextgarden.net

Could it be that you are behind
(something like a) webproxy that can't cope with redirects???


Geert Stappers


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Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-10 Thread Jeffrey Drake
This is what is returned from the proxy:

ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.contextgarden.net/

The following error was encountered:

* DNS name lookup failure

The system returned:

DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found
(authoritative).

This means that:

The named host probably does not exist.

Generated by squid/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is confirmed by the telnet connection I have tried that is not
behind the proxy. I have also tried the ip address and it isn't even
able to get there.

Regards,
Jeff

On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:10:48AM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
  Is there any downloadable copy of the Context Garden site that is not
  on the Context Garden website?
 
  At my school unfortunately we don't seem to be able to get through to
  context garden wiki. But trying to get into ConTeXt would likely be
  much smoother with access to the information.
 
  Any help is appreciated.

 I think you need help from the network administrator at _your_ side.

 Start at least to describe what you (can) see from
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page

 Mmm, that is allready the URL that you get after going
 to http://www.contextgarden.net

 Could it be that you are behind
 (something like a) webproxy that can't cope with redirects???


 Geert Stappers


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Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-10 Thread Jeffrey Drake
I have no understanding of what the problem is to know even what to
say to the network guys. Could you possibly put forth some hints about
possibilities?

Is it any coincidence that gnustep.org and contextgarden.net are both
unaccessible?

Regards,
Jeff

On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:04:17PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
  On 3/10/06, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Jeffrey Drake wrote:
DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found
(authoritative).
  
   You can try http://wiki.contextgarden.net directly, maybe?
  
This means that:
   
The named host probably does not exist.
  
   Some server along the way is lying, because the host definately does
   exist (it has IP 83.151.27.139), and its authoritive nameservers
   report the information correctly.
 
  I have tried both directly with no success.

 Okay, noticed.

 Next thing to do is that _you_ fix the network setup at _your end_


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Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-10 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:04:04PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
 On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:04:17PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
   On 3/10/06, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffrey Drake wrote:

 DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found
 (authoritative).
   
You can try http://wiki.contextgarden.net directly, maybe?
   
 This means that:

 The named host probably does not exist.
   
Some server along the way is lying, because the host definately does
exist (it has IP 83.151.27.139), and its authoritive nameservers
report the information correctly.
  
   I have tried both directly with no success.
 
  Okay, noticed.
 
  Next thing to do is that _you_ fix the network setup at _your end_
 
 I have no understanding of what the problem is to know even what to
 say to the network guys.

Print this E-mail and bring it to the network guys.

They will read this from top to bottom (people tend to read in that
order) and will known what to do ( yes, I assume that a network
administrator is worth it's money )


Cheers
Geert Stappers
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Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable

2006-03-10 Thread Jeffrey Drake
You definitely haven't seen our network administators. The proxy we run:

Generated by squid/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This version is from 1997 at best. Not many people have a great deal
of faith in them.

- Jeff



On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:04:04PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
  On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:04:17PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote:
On 3/10/06, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeffrey Drake wrote:
 
  DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found
  (authoritative).

 You can try http://wiki.contextgarden.net directly, maybe?

  This means that:
 
  The named host probably does not exist.

 Some server along the way is lying, because the host definately does
 exist (it has IP 83.151.27.139), and its authoritive nameservers
 report the information correctly.
   
I have tried both directly with no success.
  
   Okay, noticed.
  
   Next thing to do is that _you_ fix the network setup at _your end_
  
  I have no understanding of what the problem is to know even what to
  say to the network guys.

 Print this E-mail and bring it to the network guys.

 They will read this from top to bottom (people tend to read in that
 order) and will known what to do ( yes, I assume that a network
 administrator is worth it's money )


 Cheers
 Geert Stappers
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