Re: [NTG-context] Index with distinguishable entries -- again

2017-04-27 Thread Rik Kabel 

On 2017-04-27 07:14, Florian Grammel wrote:

Thank you very much for your example -- it really helps a lot!

That’s one smart trick for the endnotes. It will do fine for my 
current project, but obviously it will not work for footnotes directly 
on the pages.
I had somehow hoped that there would be something like „if within some 
environment/command" to the processors. With this also the formating 
of the items within the captions could be done automatically.


A real problem though is that adding
\setupregister [index] [compress=yes]
will wrongly compress e.g. "aaa 1, 2, 1n“ to "aaa 1–1n“. I’ll need to 
use compressed ranges and would be happy with a result, where 
formatted numbers a subsumed under the regular ones.

You don’t happen to know how to make this work correctly, do you?


I do not think that it is wrong in the way it reports compressed page 
numbers. The aaa entry is indeed on those consecutive pages. Add some 
blank pages (or pages without the indexed items) and look at the result.


You can use the same method I showed with indexed terms in footnotes. 
Just create another processor and use it in within the indexing command 
in the footnote, or create a new command to wrap it, as


   \defineprocessor[Footnote][style=bold,color=blue]
   \define[1]\fnindex{\index[Footnote->]{#1}}

of course, if you use the optional indexunder component already ( 
\index[as if it were spelled this way]{displayed as} ) then you will 
have to create a more complex command. (I leave that as an exercise for 
those who need it and do not want to fall back to the \index command.) So:


   \defineprocessor [backpart] [style=slanted,right=n]
   \defineprocessor [Figure] [style=\tf,color=red,left=f]
   \defineprocessor [Footnote] [style=bold,color=blue]
   \define[1]\fnindex{\index[Footnote->]{#1}}
   \define[1]\fiindex{\index[Figure->]{#1}}
   \defineconversionset [backpart:pagenumber][][backpart->o]
   \setupuserpagenumber[way=byblock]
   \setuppagenumbering [location=none]
   \setupheadertexts[{\convertedcounter[userpage][numberconversionset=number]}]
   \setupregister[index][compress=yes]
   %\setupnote[footnote][location=none]
   \useMPlibrary[dum]
   \starttext
   \startbodymatter
   \startchapter[title=A chapter]
  \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\fnindex{bbb}This
   is a footnote.}
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title={Another chapter}]
  \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\fnindex{bbb}This
   is a footnote.}
  \startplacefigure[location=default,
  title={Body illustration\fiindex{ccc}}]
\externalfigure[dummy][]
  \stopplacefigure
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=A third chapter]
  This is in the main body.\footnote{This is a footnote.}
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=A fourth chapter]
  This is in the main body.
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title={Another chapter}]
  \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\fnindex{bbb}This
   is a footnote.}
  \startplacefigure[location=default,
  title={Body illustration\fiindex{ccc}}]
\externalfigure[dummy][]
  \stopplacefigure
   \stopchapter
   \stopbodymatter
   \page
   \startbackmatter
   \startchapter[title=An appendix]
  This is in the backmatter.\index{aaa}\footnote{\index{bbb}This is
   a footnote.}
  \startplacefigure[location=default,
  title={Appendix illustration\index[Figure->]{ddd}}]
\externalfigure[dummy][]
  \stopplacefigure
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=Notes]
  \placenotes[footnote]
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=Index]
  \placeregister[index]
   \stopchapter
   \stopbackmatter
   \stoptext

Of course, there may be conflicts. You may index the same term twice on 
one page, once in the text, once in a footnote. Context will not choke, 
and there is a fifty-fifty chance it will default to what you want.


--
Rik
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Re: [NTG-context] Index with distinguishable entries -- again

2017-04-27 Thread Florian Grammel 
Thank you very much for your example -- it really helps a lot!

That’s one smart trick for the endnotes. It will do fine for my current 
project, but obviously it will not work for footnotes directly on the pages.
I had somehow hoped that there would be something like „if within some 
environment/command" to the processors. With this also the formating of the 
items within the captions could be done automatically.

A real problem though is that adding
\setupregister [index] [compress=yes]
will wrongly compress e.g. "aaa 1, 2, 1n“ to "aaa 1–1n“. I’ll need to use 
compressed ranges and would be happy with a result, where formatted numbers a 
subsumed under the regular ones.
You don’t happen to know how to make this work correctly, do you?

Best,
Florian.


> 
> On 2017-04-26 09:18, Florian Grammel wrote:
>> Back in april 2012 Robert Blackstone asked some questions about indexing
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg63134.html 
>> 
>> i.a.:
>> 
>>> For a book in the area of musicology I would like to make one register with 
>>> entries of different kinds, distinguishable by their appearance in the  
>>> register (or index or whatever).
>>> The index entries will mostly be authors, including composers, musical 
>>> terms 
>>> and musical compositions. The titles of the compositions and the foreign 
>>> words 
>>> are set in italic characters throughout in the text of the book.
>>> What I would like is to be able to distinguish all entries according to 
>>> whether 
>>> they are treated in the text, are shown in a musical example, or are 
>>> mentioned 
>>> only in a foot- or endnote.
>>> 
>>> In many books page numbers indicating illustrations are set in italics. 
>>> Pagenumbers indicating foot- or endnotes often have a suffix "n".
>>> 
>> His other question were resolved, but this one remained unanswered, apart 
>> from that two other users also wanted to do exactly the same thing.
>> 
>> I would like to do something very similar and was wondering: Has this been 
>> addressed/solved since then?
>> 
>> 
> Perhaps the following can help. It has separate user page numbers for the 
> main matter and back matter, with a suffixed ‘n’ for the items indexed from 
> backmatter pages, but no suffix on the backmatter page numbers. The index 
> entries for figures are rubricated and have a leading ‘f’.
> 
> \defineprocessor [backpart] [style=slanted,right=n]
> \defineprocessor [Figure] [style=\tf,color=red,left=f]
> \defineconversionset [backpart:pagenumber][][backpart->o]
> \setupuserpagenumber[way=byblock]
> \setuppagenumbering [location=none]
> \setupheadertexts[{\convertedcounter[userpage][numberconversionset=number]}]
> \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
> \useMPlibrary[dum]
> \starttext
> \startbodymatter
> \startchapter[title=A chapter]
>   \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\index{bbb}This is a 
> footnote.}
> \stopchapter
> \startchapter[title={Another chapter}]
>   \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\index{bbb}This is a 
> footnote.}
>   \startplacefigure[location=default,
>   title={Body illustration\index[Figure->]{ccc}}]
> \externalfigure[dummy][]
>   \stopplacefigure
> \stopchapter
> \stopbodymatter
> \page
> \startbackmatter
> \startchapter[title=An appendix]
>   This is in the backmatter.\index{aaa}\footnote{\index{bbb}This is a 
> footnote.}
>   \startplacefigure[location=default,
>   title={Appendix illustration\index[Figure->]{ddd}}]
> \externalfigure[dummy][]
>   \stopplacefigure
> \stopchapter
> \startchapter[title=Notes]
>   \placenotes[footnote]
> \stopchapter
> \startchapter[title=Index]
>   \placeregister[index]
> \stopchapter
> \stopbackmatter
> \stoptext
> 
> -- 
> Rik
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Re: [NTG-context] Index with distinguishable entries -- again

2017-04-26 Thread Rik Kabel 

On 2017-04-26 09:18, Florian Grammel wrote:

Back in april 2012 Robert Blackstone asked some questions about indexing
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg63134.html
i.a.:


For a book in the area of musicology I would like to make one register with
entries of different kinds, distinguishable by their appearance in the
register (or index or whatever).
The index entries will mostly be authors, including composers, musical terms
and musical compositions. The titles of the compositions and the foreign words
are set in italic characters throughout in the text of the book.
What I would like is to be able to distinguish all entries according to whether
they are treated in the text, are shown in a musical example, or are mentioned
only in a foot- or endnote.

In many books page numbers indicating illustrations are set in italics.
Pagenumbers indicating foot- or endnotes often have a suffix "n".


His other question were resolved, but this one remained unanswered, apart from 
that two other users also wanted to do exactly the same thing.

I would like to do something very similar and was wondering: Has this been 
addressed/solved since then?


Perhaps the following can help. It has separate user page numbers for 
the main matter and back matter, with a suffixed ‘n’ for the items 
indexed from backmatter pages, but no suffix on the backmatter page 
numbers. The index entries for figures are rubricated and have a leading 
‘f’.


   \defineprocessor [backpart] [style=slanted,right=n]
   \defineprocessor [Figure] [style=\tf,color=red,left=f]
   \defineconversionset [backpart:pagenumber][][backpart->o]
   \setupuserpagenumber[way=byblock]
   \setuppagenumbering [location=none]
   \setupheadertexts[{\convertedcounter[userpage][numberconversionset=number]}]
   \setupnote[footnote][location=none]
   \useMPlibrary[dum]
   \starttext
   \startbodymatter
   \startchapter[title=A chapter]
  \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\index{bbb}This is
   a footnote.}
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title={Another chapter}]
  \index{aaa}This is in the main body.\footnote{\index{bbb}This is
   a footnote.}
  \startplacefigure[location=default,
  title={Body illustration\index[Figure->]{ccc}}]
\externalfigure[dummy][]
  \stopplacefigure
   \stopchapter
   \stopbodymatter
   \page
   \startbackmatter
   \startchapter[title=An appendix]
  This is in the backmatter.\index{aaa}\footnote{\index{bbb}This is
   a footnote.}
  \startplacefigure[location=default,
  title={Appendix illustration\index[Figure->]{ddd}}]
\externalfigure[dummy][]
  \stopplacefigure
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=Notes]
  \placenotes[footnote]
   \stopchapter
   \startchapter[title=Index]
  \placeregister[index]
   \stopchapter
   \stopbackmatter
   \stoptext


--
Rik
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[NTG-context] Index with distinguishable entries -- again

2017-04-26 Thread Florian Grammel 
Back in april 2012 Robert Blackstone asked some questions about indexing
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg63134.html
i.a.:

> For a book in the area of musicology I would like to make one register with 
> entries of different kinds, distinguishable by their appearance in the  
> register (or index or whatever).
> The index entries will mostly be authors, including composers, musical terms 
> and musical compositions. The titles of the compositions and the foreign 
> words 
> are set in italic characters throughout in the text of the book.
> What I would like is to be able to distinguish all entries according to 
> whether 
> they are treated in the text, are shown in a musical example, or are 
> mentioned 
> only in a foot- or endnote.
> 
> In many books page numbers indicating illustrations are set in italics. 
> Pagenumbers indicating foot- or endnotes often have a suffix "n".
> 

His other question were resolved, but this one remained unanswered, apart from 
that two other users also wanted to do exactly the same thing.

I would like to do something very similar and was wondering: Has this been 
addressed/solved since then?


Thanks in advance!
Best,
Florian.




Florian Grammel

Copenhagen, Denmark

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