Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
Thank you, I think I can make something with this. On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Pablo Rodriguezwrote: > On 06/20/2017 10:15 PM, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a way to get the amount of > > horizontal space the initial takes so that can be put in manually in > > front of the next paragraph? > > Martin, > > how about making the initial transparent? > > \definecolor[transparentblue][t=0, a=1] > \setupwhitespace[medium] > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \placeinitial \starteffect[hidden]K\stopeffect\input knuth > \setupinitial[color=transparentblue] > > \placeinitial K\input knuth > \stoptext > > The sample contains two methods. > > Just in case it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
On 06/20/2017 10:15 PM, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a way to get the amount of > horizontal space the initial takes so that can be put in manually in > front of the next paragraph? Martin, how about making the initial transparent? \definecolor[transparentblue][t=0, a=1] \setupwhitespace[medium] \starttext \placeinitial Knuth writes: \placeinitial \starteffect[hidden]K\stopeffect\input knuth \setupinitial[color=transparentblue] \placeinitial K\input knuth \stoptext The sample contains two methods. Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
Thanks for the suggestions! Is there a way to get the amount of horizontal space the initial takes so that can be put in manually in front of the next paragraph? On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguezwrote: > On 06/09/2017 07:05 AM, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is > > laid over the next paragraph. Example: > > > > \starttext > > \placeinitial > > Knuth writes: > > > > \input knuth > > \stoptext > > > > Is there anything to do about this? > > Hi Martin, > > I guess initials make sense only when used inside a paragraph. It is > problematic when you have white space defined. > > Having margin initials is also another approach. You may compare both > with the following sample: > > \setupwhitespace[medium] > \setupinitial[location=margin] > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \input knuth > \setupinitial[location=text] > \placeinitial > Knuth writes:\\ > \input knuth > \stoptext > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
On 06/09/2017 07:05 AM, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > Hi, > > When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is > laid over the next paragraph. Example: > > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \input knuth > \stoptext > > Is there anything to do about this? Hi Martin, I guess initials make sense only when used inside a paragraph. It is problematic when you have white space defined. Having margin initials is also another approach. You may compare both with the following sample: \setupwhitespace[medium] \setupinitial[location=margin] \starttext \placeinitial Knuth writes: \input knuth \setupinitial[location=text] \placeinitial Knuth writes:\\ \input knuth \stoptext I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
Hi, Perhaps this?: \starttext \placeinitial Knuth writes: \hfill\break \input knuth \stoptext There may be a more ConTeXt-idiomatic way, in which case someone else will probably say. Note that structurally the above combines "Knuth writes:" and the first text segment (up to the first blank line or \par) of knuth.tex into a single paragraph with some glue and a break between them. You would lose any paragraph-formatting of the first segment of knuth.tex. If there is any, you might have to do that by hand. If you wanted to have the Knuth quote begin below the initial K, then someone else will have to answer. I don't know off hand. Cheers, Michael > On Jun 8, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Martin Oppegaard> wrote: > > Hi, > > When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is laid over > the next paragraph. Example: > > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \input knuth > \stoptext > > Is there anything to do about this? > > Regards, > Martin Oppegaard > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
On Fri, 2017-06-09 at 06:05 +0100, Martin Oppegaard wrote: > Hi, > > When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is laid over > the next paragraph. > Example: > > \starttext > \placeinitial > Knuth writes: > > \input knuth > \stoptext > > Is there anything to do about this? - Make longer paragraphs. - Don't use initials. What kind of answer do you expect? > Regards, > Martin Oppegaard > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Initials and short paragraph
Hi, When placing an initial and the paragraph is short, the initial is laid over the next paragraph. Example: \starttext \placeinitial Knuth writes: \input knuth \stoptext Is there anything to do about this? Regards, Martin Oppegaard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___