Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-14 Thread abbg770
On Aug 14 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schmitz at uni-bonn.de writes:
 
  
  Did you remake the formats after unzipping cont-tmf.zip? The format  
  texexec finds is from 2007/01, so it can't be the one that comes with  
  TeXLive 2008, it must be some older stuff that shadows newer formats.  
  What does
  kpsewhere --engine=pdftex cont-en.fmt
  return?
  
  Thomas
  

I made a typo, it's texlive 2007.

 
 $ texexec --make --all
 
 // ouput at end of email, http://pastebin.com/m3eaa2250 or attachment
 
 $ su -c' texhash'
 Password: 
 texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R... 
 texhash: Updating /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R... 
 texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/ls-R... 
 texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R... 
 texhash: Done.
 
 // and it seems like texexec calls mktexlsr:
 
 $ kpsewhere --engine=pdftex cont-en.fmt
 /home/mohamed/.texlive2007/texmf-config/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
 /home/mohamed/.texlive2007/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt

Typesetting the bare minimal file works, but lua or xetex doesn't;

$ texexec --lua test.tex
TeXExec | processing document 'test.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file test.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 1053
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | runtime: 0.124868


$ texexec start
TeXExec | processing document 'start'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file start.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 12
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./start.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.05 18:47 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.13  int: english/english

language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some 
patches loaded from cont-new.tex 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii) 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex)) system : cont-old 
loaded (/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context 
Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File 
Synonyms ) system : cont-sys.rme loaded 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/type-one.tex) 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)) bodyfont : 12pt rm is 
loaded language : patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:2 nl-ec:ec-2-2:2 
fr- texnansi:texnansi-3-2:2 fr-ec:ec-4-2:2 
de-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:2 de-e c:ec-6-2:2 
it-texnansi:texnansi-7-2:2 it-ec:ec-8-2:2 pt-texnansi:texna 
nsi-9-2:2 pt-ec:ec-10-2:2 hr-ec:ec-11-2:2 pl-pl0:pl0-12-2:2 
pl-ec:e c-13-2:2 pl-qx:qx-14-2:2 cs-il2:il2-15-2:2 
cs-ec:ec-16-2:2 sk-il2:i l2-17-2:2 sk-ec:ec-18-2:2 
sl-ec:ec-19-2:2 ru-t2a:t2a-21-2:2 gb-ec:e c-22-2:2 
us-ec:ec-23-2:2 agr-agr:agr-24-2:2 da-ec:ec-25-2:2 sv-ec:e 
c-26-2:2 af-ec:ec-27-2:2 nb-ec:ec-28-2:2 nn-ec:ec-29-2:2 
deo-ec:ec-
 30-2:2 es-ec:ec-35-2:2 ca-ec:ec-36-2:2 la-ec:ec-37-2:2 
 ro-ec:ec-38
-2:2 tr-ec:ec-39-2:2 fi-ec:ec-41-2:2 hu-ec:ec-42-2:2 loaded 
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : start.top loaded 
(./start.top specials : loading definition file tpd 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex specials : loading 
definition file fdf (/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii)) specials : fdf loaded 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.mkii)) specials : fdf,tpd 
loaded ) systems : system commands are disabled (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) 
(./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) 
(./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) (./start.tuo) 
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/pdfr-def.tex) systems : begin file 
start at line 1 fonts : resetting map file list 
{/home/mohamed/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map} fonts : 
using map file: original-base 
{/home/mohamed/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map} fonts : 
using map file: original-ams-base 
{/home/mohamed/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map} fonts 
: using map file: original-public-lm 
{/home/mohamed/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map} fonts 
: using map file: lm-ec {/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-ec.map} 
fonts : using map file: lm-math 
{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map} fonts : using map file: 
lm-rm {/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map} fonts : using map 
file: 8r-base {/home/mohamed/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/8r-base.map} 
fonts : using map file: ec-base 

Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Typesetting the bare minimal file works, but lua or xetex doesn't;

You need to make the formats for these as well:

texexec --make --all --xtx

(and run texhash again after creating the formats; when you think  
about it, it'll make sense)

luatex is a bit of a special beast right now; you'll need to massage  
your system a bit in order to use it. I have written instructions a  
while ago, but some users have reported they didn't have success with  
them, so I might go straight to hell for giving you this link: 
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20071002.175335.21873a03.en.html

Good luck

Thomas


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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Typesetting the bare minimal file works, but lua or xetex doesn't;

 You need to make the formats for these as well:

 texexec --make --all --xtx

 (and run texhash again after creating the formats; when you think
 about it, it'll make sense)

 luatex is a bit of a special beast right now; you'll need to massage
 your system a bit in order to use it. I have written instructions a
 while ago, but some users have reported they didn't have success with
 them, so I might go straight to hell for giving you this link: 
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20071002.175335.21873a03.en.html

Taco wrote a page on the wiki for this.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-13 Thread abbg770
Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes:

 
 Yes, it's perfectly fine if you just install this one into local tree
 (or maybe even into global - at least that's what I do). The rest is
 far less important. You only need to be aware that once you update a
 package in global tree, the local tree will still have precedence.
 
 Mojca
 

Ok so I'm trying to install cont-tmf.zip on a Fedora 9 box with TexLive 2008
into my local ~/texmf/.

$ kpsexpand '$TEXMFHOME'
/home/mohamed/texmf

$ ls ~/texmf/ bibtex cont-ext.zip cont-img.zip cont-ppc.zip doc metapost 
tex web2c context cont-fnt.zip cont-mpd.zip cont-tmf.zip fonts scripts tpm

$ su -c 'texhash'
Password: 
texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/ls-R... 
texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R... 
texhash: Done.

But when I try to typeset;

\starttext
hello
\stoptext

I get this error;

$ texexec start.tex /usr/bin/texmfstart:1838: warning: Insecure world 
writable dir /home/mohamed/Desktop/scala-2.7.1.final/bin in PATH, mode 
040777 /home/mohamed/texmf/scripts/context/ruby/base/system.rb:16: warning: 
Insecure world writable dir /home/mohamed/Desktop/scala-2.7.1.final/bin in 
PATH, mode 040777 TeXExec | processing document 'start.tex' TeXExec | no 
ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 
TeXExec | writing option file start.top TeXExec | using randomseed 93 
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is pdfTeXk, 
Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./start.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2008.7.12  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
FilesVersion: 2008.08.05 18:47

TeXUtil | unable to locate start.tui
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 0
TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
TeXUtil | commands: 0
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
TeXExec | TeX run 2
TeXExec | writing option file start.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 93
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./start.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2008.7.12  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
FilesVersion: 2008.08.05 18:47

TeXUtil | unable to locate start.tui
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 0
TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
TeXUtil | commands: 0
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
TeXExec | runtime: 0.397965




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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok so I'm trying to install cont-tmf.zip on a Fedora 9 box with  
 TexLive 2008
 into my local ~/texmf/.

 $ kpsexpand '$TEXMFHOME'
 /home/mohamed/texmf

 $ ls ~/texmf/ bibtex cont-ext.zip cont-img.zip cont-ppc.zip doc  
 metapost
 tex web2c context cont-fnt.zip cont-mpd.zip cont-tmf.zip fonts  
 scripts tpm

 $ su -c 'texhash'
 Password:
 texhash: Updating /etc/texmf/ls-R...
 texhash: Updating /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R...
 texhash: Updating /usr/share/texmf/ls-R...
 texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R...
 texhash: Done.

 But when I try to typeset;

 \starttext
 hello
 \stoptext

 I get this error;

Did you remake the formats after unzipping cont-tmf.zip? The format  
texexec finds is from 2007/01, so it can't be the one that comes with  
TeXLive 2008, it must be some older stuff that shadows newer formats.  
What does
kpsewhere --engine=pdftex cont-en.fmt
return?

Thomas



 $ texexec start.tex /usr/bin/texmfstart:1838: warning: Insecure world
 writable dir /home/mohamed/Desktop/scala-2.7.1.final/bin in PATH, mode
 040777 /home/mohamed/texmf/scripts/context/ruby/base/system.rb:16:  
 warning:
 Insecure world writable dir /home/mohamed/Desktop/scala-2.7.1.final/ 
 bin in
 PATH, mode 040777 TeXExec | processing document 'start.tex' TeXExec  
 | no
 ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec |  
 TeX run 1
 TeXExec | writing option file start.top TeXExec | using randomseed 93
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is  
 pdfTeXk,
 Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (./start.tex

 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2008.7.12  int: english/ 
 english

 language: language en is active
 system  : cont-new loaded
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

 FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

 FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
 FilesVersion: 2008.08.05 18:47

 TeXUtil | unable to locate start.tui
 TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
 TeXUtil | expansions: 0
 TeXUtil | reductions: 0
 TeXUtil | divisions : 0
 TeXUtil | loaded files: 0
 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
 TeXUtil | commands: 0
 TeXUtil | programs: 0
 TeXUtil | tuo file saved
 TeXExec | TeX run 2
 TeXExec | writing option file start.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 93
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (./start.tex

 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2008.7.12  int: english/ 
 english

 language: language en is active
 system  : cont-new loaded
 (/home/mohamed/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

 FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

 FormatVersion   : 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII
 FilesVersion: 2008.08.05 18:47

 TeXUtil | unable to locate start.tui
 TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
 TeXUtil | expansions: 0
 TeXUtil | reductions: 0
 TeXUtil | divisions : 0
 TeXUtil | loaded files: 0
 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
 TeXUtil | commands: 0
 TeXUtil | programs: 0
 TeXUtil | tuo file saved
 TeXExec | runtime: 0.397965


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[NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread abbg770
Hi,

How would I install that latest version of ConTeXt (the lua version) on 
*both* of the distributions mentioned. I occassionaly need to use LaTeX 
(especially on Windows), so I need MikTeX/Texlive running.

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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Mohamed Bana
 abbg770 at city.ac.uk writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 How would I install that latest version of ConTeXt (the lua version) on 
 *both* of the distributions mentioned. I occassionaly need to use LaTeX 
 (especially on Windows), so I need MikTeX/Texlive running.
 

I ought to mention that running texexec within cygwin results with the following
error.  Would installing ruby fix things?

$ texexec.exe
C:/PROGRA~2/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb:7:in `require': no such f
ile to load -- base/switch (LoadError)
from C:/PROGRA~2/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb:7

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Yue Wang
Hi

There's no ConTeXt package on MikTeX.
The ConTeXt version in the TL will always not be the current version.
So No solution if you follow the package update of the two system.
Please consider ConTeXt Minimals (a TL based distribution).

Yue Wang
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  abbg770 at city.ac.uk writes:


 Hi,

 How would I install that latest version of ConTeXt (the lua version) on
 *both* of the distributions mentioned. I occassionaly need to use LaTeX
 (especially on Windows), so I need MikTeX/Texlive running.


 I ought to mention that running texexec within cygwin results with the 
 following
 error.  Would installing ruby fix things?

 $ texexec.exe
 C:/PROGRA~2/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb:7:in `require': no 
 such f
 ile to load -- base/switch (LoadError)
from C:/PROGRA~2/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texexec.rb:7

Hello,

I solved a similar/related problem with
set RUBYLIB=/cygdrive/c/[Path to MikTeX or other
distr.]/scripts/context/ruby
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Talk:Windows_Installation)
but honestly I would be surprised if ConTeXt worked on cygwin out of the box.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 How would I install that latest version of ConTeXt (the lua version) on
 *both* of the distributions mentioned. I occassionaly need to use LaTeX
 (especially on Windows), so I need MikTeX/Texlive running.

With MikTeX you cannot use LuaTeX (not to say that currently with
MikTeX you cannot use ConTeXt at all :), but I often had MikTeX +
ConTeXt minimals installed, and if I needed, I executed setuptex when
I needed the minimals.

I would suggest you to install TeX Live 2008, and you'll get both
LaTeX and LuaTeX working, also on Windows. You can always have a copy
of minimals just to be sure that latest features are working, and
enable them only when needed.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Don't get your hopes too high for the LuaTeX from TeXLive 2008 ;)

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 How would I install that latest version of ConTeXt (the lua version) on
 *both* of the distributions mentioned. I occassionaly need to use LaTeX
 (especially on Windows), so I need MikTeX/Texlive running.

 With MikTeX you cannot use LuaTeX (not to say that currently with
 MikTeX you cannot use ConTeXt at all :), but I often had MikTeX +
 ConTeXt minimals installed, and if I needed, I executed setuptex when
 I needed the minimals.

 I would suggest you to install TeX Live 2008, and you'll get both
 LaTeX and LuaTeX working, also on Windows. You can always have a copy
 of minimals just to be sure that latest features are working, and
 enable them only when needed.

 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Mohamed Bana
Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes:

 
 With MikTeX you cannot use LuaTeX (not to say that currently with
 MikTeX you cannot use ConTeXt at all :), but I often had MikTeX +
 ConTeXt minimals installed, and if I needed, I executed setuptex when
 I needed the minimals.
 
 I would suggest you to install TeX Live 2008, and you'll get both
 LaTeX and LuaTeX working, also on Windows. You can always have a copy
 of minimals just to be sure that latest features are working, and
 enable them only when needed.
 
 Mojca
 

Thanks

What if I install TeX Live 2008 and extract the following to a local tree?

context/current/cont-tmf.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

context/current/cont-img.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

context/current/cont-fnt.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

context/current/cont-ext.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

context/current/cont-ppc.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

context/current/cont-mpd.zip 2008-08-05 18:50



Mohamed


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Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes:


 With MikTeX you cannot use LuaTeX (not to say that currently with
 MikTeX you cannot use ConTeXt at all :), but I often had MikTeX +
 ConTeXt minimals installed, and if I needed, I executed setuptex when
 I needed the minimals.

 I would suggest you to install TeX Live 2008, and you'll get both
 LaTeX and LuaTeX working, also on Windows. You can always have a copy
 of minimals just to be sure that latest features are working, and
 enable them only when needed.

 Mojca


 Thanks

 What if I install TeX Live 2008 and extract the following to a local tree?

 context/current/cont-tmf.zip 2008-08-05 18:50

Yes, it's perfectly fine if you just install this one into local tree
(or maybe even into global - at least that's what I do). The rest is
far less important. You only need to be aware that once you update a
package in global tree, the local tree will still have precedence.

Mojca
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