[NTG-context] New ConTeXt cz interface installation problem

2005-01-11 Thread Michal Kvasnicka
Dear friends,
I apologize that I have recently sent message to this list only when 
I've got some problems. Nontheless I need to keep this tradition. :-( I 
tried to install the newest ConTeXt over the TexLive 9/2003. All was 
perfect except the Czech interface. I've got a strange error. What 
should I do to improve it?

My system is this:
* SuSE Linux 9.1
* TeX Live + CTAN 9/2003
* pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
* ConTeXt  ver: 2004.12.06  fmt: 2005.1.11  int: english  mes: english
* TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004
The excerpt from the log file is this:
language   : patterns for cz not loaded
language   : patterns for hr not loaded
language   : patterns for pl not loaded
language   : patterns for sk not loaded
encoding   : coding fde is loaded
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/enco-fde.tex unprotect 3
language   : language specific options [default-de] seamless appended
language   : language specific options [default-de] seamless appended
language   : language specific options [default-de] seamless appended
encoding   : coding pdfdoc
language   : language specific options [pdfdoc-de] seamless appended
encoding   : coding ec
language   : language specific options [ec-de] seamless appended
encoding   : coding texnansi
language   : language specific options [texnansi-de] seamless appended
protect 3))
language   : patterns en for en loaded (n=1)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex)
language   : no hyphenations en for en (n=1)
language   : patterns de for de loaded (n=2)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/dehyphn.tex
New German Hyphenation Patterns `dehyphn' Rev.31 2001-05-07 (WaS))
language   : no hyphenations de for de (n=2)
encoding   : coding il2
language   : patterns sk for sk loaded (n=3)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/skhyph.tex
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/t1code.tex Font encoding set to Cork.)
The \^, \`, \', \v, \ and \r expands to characters by Cork.
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/skhyphen.tex))
language   : no hyphenations sk for sk (n=3)
encoding   : coding ec
language   : patterns sk for sk loaded (n=3)
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/skhyph.tex
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/t1code.tex Font encoding set to Cork.)
The \^, \`, \', \v, \ and \r expands to characters by Cork.
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/skhyphen.tex
! Duplicate pattern.
l.29 a1
I am quite desperate so I will be thankfull for any hint.
Your sincerelly
Michal Kvasnicka
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Re: [NTG-context] New ConTeXt cz interface installation problem

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Michal Kvasnicka wrote:
I apologize that I have recently sent message to this list only when 
I've got some problems. Nontheless I need to keep this tradition. :-( I 
tried to install the newest ConTeXt over the TexLive 9/2003. All was 
perfect except the Czech interface. I've got a strange error. What 
should I do to improve it?

My system is this:
* SuSE Linux 9.1
* TeX Live + CTAN 9/2003
* pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
* ConTeXt  ver: 2004.12.06  fmt: 2005.1.11  int: english  mes: english
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/generic/hyphen/skhyph.tex
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/t1code.tex Font encoding set to Cork.)
first of all, fetch a context zip from our website
(or grab the minimal context distribution for linux, you can use that one 
alongside other trees if needed)

The \^, \`, \', \v, \ and \r expands to characters by Cork.
(/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/csplain/skhyphen.tex
! Duplicate pattern.
l.29 a1
I am quite desperate so I will be thankfull for any hint.
the integration of czech/slovak patterns in tex live is a mess, and among the 
reasons for problems you will find:

- files not in the right places (generic hyphen paths)
- using non standard names (*hyphen where oithers use *hyph)
- combined with a latex depency (in the *hyph ones)
in spite of what you may think, tex distributions are not upward compatible, and 
 fonts and patterns are among the troublemakers.

In your case: locate [cont-usr or so] where context tries to load czhyph and 
replace that by czhyphen; same for sk* (so, contrary to other languages, 
czech/slovak had the pattersn in the *hyphen files); in your current setup 
something t1code.tex is loaded and i don't even want to think about what 
interference can come from that -)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] New ConTeXt cz interface installation problem

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Michal Kvasnicka wrote:
Many thanks for your answer. I will try to follow your advices.
As for TeX distributions, I'm getting desperate. I had to switch to 
TeXLive from teTeX, because 1) it didn't work with tha last version of 
ConTeXt I tried to install, and 2) in SuSE 9.1 mktexlsr doesn't work in 
the teTeX. Now I can see that the TeXLive is not better at all. 
Moreover, I don't understand why there are three different texmf 
directories. :-( What distribution of TeX should I use? Does your 
minimal TeX distribution support plain/LaTeX (for those rare cases I 
need to use them)? Well, I will see at the night. :-)
in that case, just download the minimal context distribution for linux, you can 
rsync that one of needed (some 25 meg zip initially)

in there, there is setuptex, run that one (with the tex root as arg) and make 
the formats

 texexec --make --all
will give you all languages, including czech
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] New ConTeXt cz interface installation problem

2005-01-11 Thread Michal Kvasnicka
David Antos wrote:
just a comment. In TeXlive2003, czhyph.tex contains first
\ifx\addlanguage\undefined
 \errmessage{This file can be used only in babelised formats!}
\fi
 

Well, I forgot to say that I commented these lines. :-) As for the rest, 
I think ConTeXt is as superior to LaTeX as an herd of buldozers is to a 
child trowel in digging. :-)

Many thanks to you both for your help.
M.K.
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Re: [NTG-context] New ConTeXt cz interface installation problem

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
David Antos wrote:
The path of least resistence is probably to make cont-usr.tex to point
directly to the actual position of czhyphen.tex directly :-(, sigh...
indeed, sigh ...
a problem is that users keep their own cont-usr file and changes in names like 
that are then up to the user; i could add this to the kernel

\definefilesynonym [czhyph.pat]   [czhyphen.tex] % safeguard
\definefilesynonym [skhyph.pat]   [skhyphen.tex] % safeguard
but then we end up with all kind of fuzzy code
similar problems showed last year when the us hyphen filename was changed, (on 
some systems the alias file handled that, but who knows about that one)

Hans
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