Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 09.08.10 23:14, schrieb Hans Hagen: On 9-8-2010 8:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 09.08.10 12:28, schrieb Elias Oltmanns: I've only just realised that TeX seems to reserve space for the footnotes at the bottom of the main text area. Check the following example: \setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth] \setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth,factor=0] or location=none Elias use MkII and with 'location=none' nothing is shown. That's right. Thanks for the fix, it seems to work just fine. I'm beginning to wonder though, whether I should switch to MkIV after all. Regards, Elias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Sorry for bringing this up again but ...
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.07.10 15:33, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance?
You need a different setup for the footnote in Mark 2:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
I've only just realised that TeX seems to reserve space for the
footnotes at the bottom of the main text area. Check the following
example:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,rule=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{And here we have
yet another footnote spanning more than one line.} %
{\dorecurse{4}{\input tufte\par}}
\stoptext
I've tried the same with \setupfootnotes and \placefootnotes to no
avail.
Any hint will be appreciated,
Elias
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Am 09.08.10 12:28, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Sorry for bringing this up again but ...
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.07.10 15:33, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance?
You need a different setup for the footnote in Mark 2:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
I've only just realised that TeX seems to reserve space for the
footnotes at the bottom of the main text area. Check the following
example:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth,factor=0]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
On 9-8-2010 8:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 09.08.10 12:28, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Sorry for bringing this up again but ...
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.07.10 15:33, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input
tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance?
You need a different setup for the footnote in Mark 2:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
I've only just realised that TeX seems to reserve space for the
footnotes at the bottom of the main text area. Check the following
example:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth,factor=0]
or location=none
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Am 09.08.10 23:14, schrieb Hans Hagen: On 9-8-2010 8:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 09.08.10 12:28, schrieb Elias Oltmanns: I've only just realised that TeX seems to reserve space for the footnotes at the bottom of the main text area. Check the following example: \setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth] \setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth,factor=0] or location=none Elias use MkII and with 'location=none' nothing is shown. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Sorry for posting a german message to the list, it was intended as a private mail. I should check the To-header, next time. olli -- Oliver Heins he...@sopos.org http://www.sopos.org/olli GPG: F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 29.07.10 15:33, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance? If not, I'd rather not change my current texlive installation
just now.
You need a different setup for the footnote in Mark 2:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
Well, it works and I'm impressed with the result. Thank you very much
for your help.
Regards,
Elias
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Am 28.07.10 13:19, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Hi there,
not being a ConTeXt user myself, I have been advised on the tex-d-l list
of the German TUG that a certain problem could possibly be solved more
easily in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. So, here is what I'm trying to achieve:
The numerous but short footnotes of a document shall be placed in the
right margin rather than below the main text area. Additionally, though,
the footnotes should not be placed near the call up (similar to what
\marginpar does), but type set en bloc at the bottom of the page. In
other words, the main text area should have fixed margins all round
across all pages and the footnotes should be printed in a small
rectangular block beside the main text area such that the height of this
block varies according to the number of footnotes on the page, but the
block is always flushed to the bottom of the page. You'll find an ascii
art illustration below.
Is such a layout feasible in ConTeXt without too much hassle at all?
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance? If not, I'd rather not change my current texlive installation
just now.
log-output is attached.
Thanks for your time,
Elias
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Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Hi Elias, erfreut habe ich gesehen, dass dir mit ConTeXt wohl geholfen werden kann. Elias Oltmanns e...@nebensachen.de writes: Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any chance? If not, I'd rather not change my current texlive installation just now. Ohne direkt auf das Problem eingehen zu können: Wenn du ConTeXt benutzt, installier am besten die Minimals. Die Installation ist denkbar einfach und hier beschrieben: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Simple_instructions_for_installing_on_Unix_like_system_.28Linux.2FMac_OSX.2FFreeBSD.2FSolaris.29 Abweichend zu dieser Beschreibung habe ich in meiner .zshrc (.bashrc sollte genauso funktionieren) folgende Zeile geschrieben: alias minimals='source ~/context/tex/setuptex' Damit kann ich bequem in einer Shell mittels Eingabe von 'minimals' zur ConTeXt-Installation wechseln und habe sonst weiterhin die TeXLive-Binaries und -Pfade. Gruß, olli -- Oliver Heins he...@sopos.org http://www.sopos.org/olli GPG: F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Oliver Heins o...@sopos.org wrote: Hi Elias, erfreut habe ich gesehen, dass dir mit ConTeXt wohl geholfen werden kann. Elias Oltmanns e...@nebensachen.de writes: Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any chance? If not, I'd rather not change my current texlive installation just now. Ohne direkt auf das Problem eingehen zu können: Wenn du ConTeXt benutzt, installier am besten die Minimals. Die Installation ist denkbar einfach und hier beschrieben: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Simple_instructions_for_installing_on_Unix_like_system_.28Linux.2FMac_OSX.2FFreeBSD.2FSolaris.29 Vielen Dank für den Hinweis und die weiteren Tips. Allerdings habe ich das Minimalbeispiel auch einmal im contextgarden online kompilieren lassen, was das gleiche Problem mit sehr ähnlichen log-Meldungen aufgeworfen hat. Es scheint also nicht unbedingt an meiner Installation zu liegen. Vielleicht kann Wolfgang oder jemand anderes sagen, ob dem Minimalbeispiel noch etwas hinzugefügt oder korrigiert werden muss, damit das gewünschte Ergebnis erzielt wird. Wenn ConTeXt sich schließlich als geeignete Lösung erweisen sollte, ist es aber wahrscheinlich eine gute Idee, deine Idee mit paralleler Nutzung von texlive und context minimal aufzugreifen. Gruß, Elias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Am 29.07.10 15:33, schrieb Elias Oltmanns:
Wolfgang Schusterschuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
This is easy:
\setupnote[footnote][location=text]
\setuptexttexts[margin][][{\framed[frame=off,offset=none,align=low,height=\textheight,width=broad]{\placenotes[footnote]}}]
%\showframe
\starttext
text\footnote{one} text\footnote{two} text\footnote{\input tufte\par} text
\stoptext
Thanks for the snippet. Unfortunately, the footnotes don't seem to make
it onto the page though. Would this be due to using ConTeXt MKII by any
chance? If not, I'd rather not change my current texlive installation
just now.
You need a different setup for the footnote in Mark 2:
\setupnote[footnote][width=\rightmarginwidth]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Placing footnotes in right margin en bloc at bottom of page
Hi there, not being a ConTeXt user myself, I have been advised on the tex-d-l list of the German TUG that a certain problem could possibly be solved more easily in ConTeXt than in LaTeX. So, here is what I'm trying to achieve: The numerous but short footnotes of a document shall be placed in the right margin rather than below the main text area. Additionally, though, the footnotes should not be placed near the call up (similar to what \marginpar does), but type set en bloc at the bottom of the page. In other words, the main text area should have fixed margins all round across all pages and the footnotes should be printed in a small rectangular block beside the main text area such that the height of this block varies according to the number of footnotes on the page, but the block is always flushed to the bottom of the page. You'll find an ascii art illustration below. Is such a layout feasible in ConTeXt without too much hassle at all? Regards, Elias =| = =| = =| = = M A I N | = =| = = T E X T | = =| = = A R E A | = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =| = =|-= =|foot-= =|notes= ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
