Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: See sort-lan.lua ... you could define a pseudo-language for this and use that one for sorting. The actual sorting is driven by a sequence of steps that (can) involve uppercase, lowercase, shape, unicode, specific order etc. It looks very good. Congratulations? Does it mean I can e.g. still use 'hr' as main language for writing and then use my pseudo language *just* for sorting purposes? Sincerely, Gour -- There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogī, O Arjuna, if one eats too much or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
Am 27.06.2014 um 10:05 schrieb Gour g...@atmarama.net: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: See sort-lan.lua ... you could define a pseudo-language for this and use that one for sorting. The actual sorting is driven by a sequence of steps that (can) involve uppercase, lowercase, shape, unicode, specific order etc. It looks very good. Congratulations? Does it mean I can e.g. still use 'hr' as main language for writing and then use my pseudo language *just* for sorting purposes? Yes, the register mechanism provides a language key where you can specify the language which is used for the sorting of the entries. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
On 6/27/2014 10:05 AM, Gour wrote: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes: See sort-lan.lua ... you could define a pseudo-language for this and use that one for sorting. The actual sorting is driven by a sequence of steps that (can) involve uppercase, lowercase, shape, unicode, specific order etc. It looks very good. Congratulations? Does it mean I can e.g. still use 'hr' as main language for writing and then use my pseudo language *just* for sorting purposes? yes - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com writes: Yes, the register mechanism provides a language key where you can specify the language which is used for the sorting of the entries. Excellent!! It's time to dive into ConTeXt again... Sincerely, Gour -- One must deliver himself with the help of his mind, and not degrade himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul, and his enemy as well. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
john Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com writes: Hello, I have looked into Xindy for this job but the learning curve is pretty steep and the documentation pretty opaque. makeindex won't handle decimals for locators. in the past when working on some books with the English/Croatian/Sanskrit(diacritics) using Xindy in companion with LyX/LaTeX was the only option to ger proper sorting. I was playing with the ConTeXt more than 10 years ago, but lack of proper docs was always keeping me back from fully embracing it. Today after checking (again) I see that there are even some printed books and MkIV/LuaTeX seems to be quite stable, so I wonder about ConTeXt's capabilities to generate index/glossary in regard to xindy which is powerful, but I never really grokked it properly? Other typesetting features of ConTeXt are certainly very tempting and along with Emacs/AUCTeX everything looks as very pleasant typesetting environment. @John: I'm curios if you were able to prepare desired index *without* makeindex/xindy? Sincerely, Gour -- ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
On 6/26/2014 4:17 PM, Gour wrote: Today after checking (again) I see that there are even some printed books and MkIV/LuaTeX seems to be quite stable, so I wonder about ConTeXt's capabilities to generate index/glossary in regard to xindy which is powerful, but I never really grokked it properly? i don't know xindy but normally the context mkiv index mechanism is flexible enough (and it can be configured) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes:
i don't know xindy but normally the context mkiv index mechanism is
flexible enough (and it can be configured)
Here are some snippets from my old xindy setup...
;; define order of sorting runs
(use-rule-set :run 0
:rule-set (resolve-sanskrit-diacritics hr-alphabetize
hr-ignore-special))
(use-rule-set :run 1
:rule-set (hr-resolve-diacritics hr-ignore-special))
(use-rule-set :run 2
:rule-set (hr-resolve-case hr-ignore-special))
(use-rule-set :run 3
:rule-set (hr-resolve-special))
which says that the sorting should be done in the following order: first
rules for sanskrit diacriticits, then alphabetic sort of Croatian (hr)
characters etc. followed by another set of rules saying to sort Croatian
diacritics (I was using latin2 encoding) etc.
Here is example of resolve-sanskrit-diacritics:
(define-rule-set resolve-sanskrit-diacritics
:rules ((\\={(a)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\={\\i} i :bregexp :again)
(\\={I} I :bregexp :again)
(\\\.{(.)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(r)} ri :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(t)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(T)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(d)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(n)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(s)} š :bregexp :again)
(\\d{(S)} Š :bregexp :again)
(\\~{(.)} \1 :bregexp :again)
(\\'{(c)} ć :bregexp :again)
(\\'{(C)} Ć. :bregexp :again)
(\\'{(s)} š :bregexp :again)
(\\'{(S)} Š :bregexp :again)
))
which says that e.g. 'ṣ' which is pronounced similar to Croatian 'š'
should go in the same letter-group, same with 'Ś' which goes to 'Š'. 'ṛ'
is pronounced as 'ri' and it should goes in the letter group 'ri' etc.
Of course, at that time, without proper Unicode support, it was a bit
cumbersome but I was able to see everything properly in LyX as well as
properly sorted in the final PDF/PS outputs.
Is something like that possible in ConTeXt?
Sincerely,
Gour
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[NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
I have a customer that uses a publisher that has truly weird requirements. The weirdness is that the locaters are not page numbers but paragraph numbers. And some paragraph numbers start with the prefix 'BO' and others with the chapter number. so a correct sequence would be BO.15 3.2 A finished sequence would be goddess @@ BO.15 3.2 3.5 The sort order has to be letter by letter, as defined in the Chicago Manual of Style. Can Context sort and summarize these locaters? I can even change the BO sequence to 0 (zero) and then change it back later on. The key is can Context sort by paragraph number rather than page number for an index. I have looked into Xindy for this job but the learning curve is pretty steep and the documentation pretty opaque. makeindex won't handle decimals for locators. I don't mind doing a little reformatting along the way (I already have for this project) but I don't want to rewrite makeindex or xindy just for this job. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html PDF e-book: Create Book Covers with Scribus available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Preparing a weird index.
On 4/5/2014 9:42 PM, john Culleton wrote: I have a customer that uses a publisher that has truly weird requirements. The weirdness is that the locaters are not page numbers but paragraph numbers. And some paragraph numbers start with the prefix 'BO' and others with the chapter number. so a correct sequence would be BO.15 3.2 A finished sequence would be goddess @@ BO.15 3.2 3.5 The sort order has to be letter by letter, as defined in the Chicago Manual of Style. Can Context sort and summarize these locaters? You can use the BO.15 3.2 3.5 as subentry and it will probably be sorted all right; you can then disable page numbers. This kind of indexing happens in critical editions. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
