Re: [NTG-context] Problem installing standalone on linux-64

2017-10-06 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:44 PM, luigi scarso  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> When trying to install a standalone I get into trouble. First I run
> confirmed, it's the new installer...
> we are trying to get rid of the cygwin dependency.
it should be ok now.


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem installing standalone on linux-64

2017-10-06 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> When trying to install a standalone I get into trouble. First I run
confirmed, it's the new installer...
we are trying to get rid of the cygwin dependency.

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[NTG-context] Problem installing standalone on linux-64

2017-10-06 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Hi!

When trying to install a standalone I get into trouble. First I run

wget http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh

Then:

mickep@cantor:/opt/ConTeXt$ sudo sh ./first-setup.sh --modules=all
receiving incremental file list

sent 29 bytes  received 155 bytes  122.67 bytes/sec
total size is 8,840,293  speedup is 48,045.07

mtxrun  | forcing cache reload
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/usr/matematik/mickep/texmf/web2c' from specification
'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin' from specification 'selfautoloc:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird
path '/opt/ConTeXt' from specification 'selfautodir:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/ConTeXt/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautodir:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'$SELFAUTOGRANDPARENT/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on weird
path '/opt' from specification 'selfautoparent:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for regular 'texmfcnf.lua' on given
path '/opt/texmf/web2c' from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
given path '/usr/matematik/mickep/texmf/web2c' from specification
'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
weird path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin' from specification 'selfautoloc:'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
given path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf-local/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
given path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf-dist/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf-dist/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
given path '/opt/ConTeXt/bin/share/texmf/web2c' from specification
'selfautoloc:/share/texmf/web2c'
resolvers   | resolving | looking for fallback 'contextcnf.lua' on
given path 

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-16 Thread hwitloc

Mojca, thank you very much for the detailed and informative information.

Regarding the native for cygwin Context, I am currently using TeXLive for 
Unix-ish Platforms.  So the Context In TeXLive for Unix platforms works or has 
been made to work on Cygwin at some step in the process by someone.  How is the 
TexLive version of ConTeXt prepared?   Using the same technique for the 
standalone to render it runnable on Cygwin like the TexLive version of Context, 
I should think.  What do you think?

Regards

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Henman wrote:
 
  I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.
 
  Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP
 
  Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:
 
  #1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
 sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3
 
  The following files are loaded:
receiving incremental file list
  bin/
  bin/cygiconv-2.dll
  bin/cygwin1.dll
  bin/kpathsea620.dll
  bin/lua52.dll
  bin/luatex.dll
  bin/mtx-update.lua
  bin/mtxrun.dll
  bin/mtxrun.exe
  bin/mtxrun.lua
  bin/rsync.exe
  bin/texlua.exe
 
 
  When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing:
 
  . /opt/context/tex/setuptex
 
  NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.
 
 
  Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex 
  directory contents?
 
 We used to have cygwin-specific binaries, but dropped them after the
 volunteer who built them has lost the interest.
 
 Actually I would surprised if the distribution worked with cygwin
 out-of-the-box now that those binaries have been removed (probably a
 few years ago already) because we never tried to adapt any code, but I
 guess that Akira's native windows binaries should work just as well
 under cygwin's shell, so fixing this should be doable.
 
 There are two steps involved in syncronisation. The script
 first-setup.sh first determines the platform. In the good old days we
 used:
 
 # cygwin
 CYGWIN*)
 case $cpu in
 i*86) platform=cygwin ;;
 x86_64|ia64) platform=cygwin-64 ;;
 *) platform=unknown ;;
 esac ;;
 
 and recently switched to:
 
 CYGWIN*)
 case $cpu in
 i*86) platform=mswin ;; # cygwin, if we ever get native
 cygwin binaries
 x86_64|ia64) platform=mswin ;; # cygwin-64, likewise
 *) platform=unknown ;;
 esac ;;
 
 The script then fetches files from
 rsync -rlptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/$platform/bin .
 which apparently succeeds, but then the following step fails:
 
 mtxrun --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --force --update
 --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$CONTEXTROOT $@
 
 If this step actually ever worked, it might be that Hans' recent fixes
 to determine whether Windows is 64-bit or not, might have broken the
 functionality.
 
 In any case I'm almost sure that mtxrun fails to deliver proper
 binaries. Is there really no other output to be seen?
 
 Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-16 Thread hwitloc
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 1/15/2014 12:06 PM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
  On 1/15/2014 7:56 AM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.
 
  Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP
 
  Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:
 
  #1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
   sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3
 
  The following files are loaded:
  receiving incremental file list
   bin/
   bin/cygiconv-2.dll
   bin/cygwin1.dll
   bin/kpathsea620.dll
   bin/lua52.dll
   bin/luatex.dll
   bin/mtx-update.lua
   bin/mtxrun.dll
   bin/mtxrun.exe
   bin/mtxrun.lua
   bin/rsync.exe
   bin/texlua.exe
 
 
  The above only populated /opt/context/bin
 
 
 
  Re: When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by 
  typing:
   . /opt/context/tex/setuptex
 
  NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.
 
  I mean there is no /opt/context/tex  so no /opt/context/tex/setuptex..
 
 
 
  Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex 
  directory contents?
 
  Any suggestions are apprecaited.
 
  can you run ./firstsetup ?
 
 
  ../firstsetup.sh was ran and it was first setup that created and populated 
  the bin directory.  But nothing was done for a tex directory.
 
 then you need to figure out why it failed ... messages and so
 ... maybe an rsync issue (you can try to add prints to mtx-update.lua
 (but then also comment the first rsync in firstsetup so that it
 doesn't get overwritten)

Yes I am trying to find out.  That's why I sent the message in the first place.
I will endeaver to find out more inforation.

Is there a way to download a three without using rsync?  Perhaps a tarball or 
other archive format?

Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM,  hwit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mojca, thank you very much for the detailed and informative information.

 Regarding the native for cygwin Context, I am currently using TeXLive for 
 Unix-ish Platforms.  So the Context In TeXLive for Unix platforms works or 
 has been made to work on Cygwin at some step in the process by someone.  How 
 is the TexLive version of ConTeXt prepared?

The same as for all other platforms. Someone
(http://www.tug.org/texlive/build.html) had to compile the binaries on
cygwin. You can see the binaries here:

http://tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/i386-cygwin/

The binaries are compiled once per year (actually a couple of times
withing a short period of time since there are always bugs or problems
revealed in the process).

 Using the same technique for the standalone to render it runnable on Cygwin 
 like the TexLive version of Context, I should think.  What do you think?

Someone would have to compile the binaries then. In addition to what's
already in TeX Live that means that whenever a new LuaTeX or MetaPost
gets released, the volunteer needs to run the compilation.

Is there any performance penalty when using native Windows binaries
rather than those for cygwin? Or doesn't it work at all? (Please not a
difference between broken binaries and broken installation process.
I'm asking for the case when installation would succeed.)

 Is there a way to download a tree without using rsync?  Perhaps a tarball or 
 other archive format?

Not any longer / not yet. But I could try to set it up again. But
given that your rsync works fine and it's just the update script
that's failing, I could also send you a bash scipt to run a bunch of
rsync commands instead of going through texlua.

Can you please try to download
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip, unzip
it, run first-setup.bat from cmd, move the files to where your cygwin
installation is and check whether it works at all from within the
cygwin shell? That is: if normal windows binaries work inside cygwin.
Depending on that we can act further. The easiest way would be to fix
the installation.

The other less trivial way means that either you or someone else with
sufficient motivation needs to be ready to keep compiling each new
release of luatex when it gets released. And I would need to adapt the
scripts (cygwin is more tricky because it's neither windows nor unix
and always needs an exception ;).

If you want to try building the binaries, do the following:
svn co http://svn.contextgarden.net/suite/build-binaries
cd build-binaries
./bin_update_src.sh
./bin_update_svn.sh
./bin_build.sh

(I would expect problems in the last step of ./bin_build.sh, when
copying the files due to the additional *.exe extension, but you may
ignore those. The main question is whether the binaries compile at
all.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/16/2014 10:23 AM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:

Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 1/15/2014 12:06 PM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:


Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 1/15/2014 7:56 AM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:





I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.

Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP

Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:

#1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
  sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3

The following files are loaded:
 receiving incremental file list
bin/
bin/cygiconv-2.dll
bin/cygwin1.dll
bin/kpathsea620.dll
bin/lua52.dll
bin/luatex.dll
bin/mtx-update.lua
bin/mtxrun.dll
bin/mtxrun.exe
bin/mtxrun.lua
bin/rsync.exe
bin/texlua.exe



The above only populated /opt/context/bin




Re: When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing:
  . /opt/context/tex/setuptex

NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.


I mean there is no /opt/context/tex  so no /opt/context/tex/setuptex..




Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex directory 
contents?


Any suggestions are apprecaited.


can you run ./firstsetup ?



../firstsetup.sh was ran and it was first setup that created and populated the 
bin directory.  But nothing was done for a tex directory.


then you need to figure out why it failed ... messages and so
... maybe an rsync issue (you can try to add prints to mtx-update.lua
(but then also comment the first rsync in firstsetup so that it
doesn't get overwritten)


Yes I am trying to find out.  That's why I sent the message in the first place.
I will endeaver to find out more inforation.

Is there a way to download a three without using rsync?  Perhaps a tarball or 
other archive format?


just download the regular (non cygwin) windows tree



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-15 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/15/2014 7:56 AM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:





I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.

Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP

Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:

#1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3

The following files are loaded:
   receiving incremental file list
bin/
bin/cygiconv-2.dll
bin/cygwin1.dll
bin/kpathsea620.dll
bin/lua52.dll
bin/luatex.dll
bin/mtx-update.lua
bin/mtxrun.dll
bin/mtxrun.exe
bin/mtxrun.lua
bin/rsync.exe
bin/texlua.exe



The above only populated /opt/context/bin




Re: When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing:
. /opt/context/tex/setuptex

NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.


I mean there is no /opt/context/tex  so no /opt/context/tex/setuptex..




Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex directory 
contents?


Any suggestions are apprecaited.


can you run ./firstsetup ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-15 Thread hwitloc

Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 1/15/2014 7:56 AM, hwit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.
 
  Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP
 
  Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:
 
  #1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
  sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3
 
  The following files are loaded:
 receiving incremental file list
 bin/
 bin/cygiconv-2.dll
 bin/cygwin1.dll
 bin/kpathsea620.dll
 bin/lua52.dll
 bin/luatex.dll
 bin/mtx-update.lua
 bin/mtxrun.dll
 bin/mtxrun.exe
 bin/mtxrun.lua
 bin/rsync.exe
 bin/texlua.exe
 
 
  The above only populated /opt/context/bin
 
 
 
  Re: When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by 
  typing:
  . /opt/context/tex/setuptex
 
  NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.
 
  I mean there is no /opt/context/tex  so no /opt/context/tex/setuptex..
 
 
 
  Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex 
  directory contents?
 
  Any suggestions are apprecaited.
 
 can you run ./firstsetup ?
 

./firstsetup.sh was ran and it was first setup that created and populated the 
bin directory.  But nothing was done for a tex directory.


Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Henman wrote:

 I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.

 Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP

 Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:

 #1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3

 The following files are loaded:
   receiving incremental file list
 bin/
 bin/cygiconv-2.dll
 bin/cygwin1.dll
 bin/kpathsea620.dll
 bin/lua52.dll
 bin/luatex.dll
 bin/mtx-update.lua
 bin/mtxrun.dll
 bin/mtxrun.exe
 bin/mtxrun.lua
 bin/rsync.exe
 bin/texlua.exe


 When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing:

 . /opt/context/tex/setuptex

 NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.


 Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex directory 
 contents?

We used to have cygwin-specific binaries, but dropped them after the
volunteer who built them has lost the interest.

Actually I would surprised if the distribution worked with cygwin
out-of-the-box now that those binaries have been removed (probably a
few years ago already) because we never tried to adapt any code, but I
guess that Akira's native windows binaries should work just as well
under cygwin's shell, so fixing this should be doable.

There are two steps involved in syncronisation. The script
first-setup.sh first determines the platform. In the good old days we
used:

# cygwin
CYGWIN*)
case $cpu in
i*86) platform=cygwin ;;
x86_64|ia64) platform=cygwin-64 ;;
*) platform=unknown ;;
esac ;;

and recently switched to:

CYGWIN*)
case $cpu in
i*86) platform=mswin ;; # cygwin, if we ever get native
cygwin binaries
x86_64|ia64) platform=mswin ;; # cygwin-64, likewise
*) platform=unknown ;;
esac ;;

The script then fetches files from
rsync -rlptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/$platform/bin .
which apparently succeeds, but then the following step fails:

mtxrun --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --force --update
--context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$CONTEXTROOT $@

If this step actually ever worked, it might be that Hans' recent fixes
to determine whether Windows is 64-bit or not, might have broken the
functionality.

In any case I'm almost sure that mtxrun fails to deliver proper
binaries. Is there really no other output to be seen?

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-14 Thread Henman

I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.

Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP

Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:

#1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
   sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3

The following files are loaded:
  receiving incremental file list
bin/
bin/cygiconv-2.dll
bin/cygwin1.dll
bin/kpathsea620.dll
bin/lua52.dll
bin/luatex.dll
bin/mtx-update.lua
bin/mtxrun.dll
bin/mtxrun.exe
bin/mtxrun.lua
bin/rsync.exe
bin/texlua.exe


When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing:

. /opt/context/tex/setuptex

NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.


Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex directory 
contents?


Regards



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with Standalone

2014-01-14 Thread hwitloc


 
 I am trying to load the standalone but have ran into a problem.
 
 Platform:  cygwin on Windows XP
 
 Here is what I did to try to get it all loaded and setup:
 
 #1 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
sh ./first-setup.sh  || exit 3
 
 The following files are loaded:
   receiving incremental file list
   bin/
   bin/cygiconv-2.dll
   bin/cygwin1.dll
   bin/kpathsea620.dll
   bin/lua52.dll
   bin/luatex.dll
   bin/mtx-update.lua
   bin/mtxrun.dll
   bin/mtxrun.exe
   bin/mtxrun.lua
   bin/rsync.exe
   bin/texlua.exe
 
 
The above only populated /opt/context/bin



Re: When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by 
typing:
. /opt/context/tex/setuptex
 
 NOTE: there is no /opt/context/!!  It doesn't get loaded.

I mean there is no /opt/context/tex  so no /opt/context/tex/setuptex..


 
 Any ideas of what is wrong?  Any work around to get the proper tex directory 
 contents?

Any suggestions are apprecaited.

Regards
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