[NTG-context] Problem with packed and \space / broad and /nospace

2009-02-23 Thread Bernd Kosubek
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Hallo all!

The following lines demonstrates my problem:

{
  \setupspacing[packed]
  \startalignment[right]
 .
   .
   .

 .
   .\space{}
   .
  \stopalignment
}

{
  \setupspacing[broad]
  \startalignment[right]
 .
   .
   .

 .
   .\nospace{}
   .
  \stopalignment
}
\stoptext

In my mind, the first line should be the shortest (no 
additional spacing).
 
The length of the second line must be longer (additional 
spacing after the second sentence).

The length of the third line must be longer than that of the 
second line (additional spacing between every sentence).

And the fourth line must be shorter than the third line 
(same length as the first line).

If I run texexec over this, the last three line are longer 
than the first line AND they have the same lengths.

What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem or a 
bug?

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with packed and \space / broad and /nospace

2009-02-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:


If I run texexec over this, the last three line are longer
than the first line AND they have the same lengths.

What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem or a
bug?


You get what you write.

2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}

3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the disabled  
frenchspacing


4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with {}

Wolfgang
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with packed and \space / broad and /nospace

2009-02-23 Thread Bernd Kosubek
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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 21:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
 Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:
  If I run texexec over this, the last three line are
  longer than the first line AND they have the same
  lengths.
 
  What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem
  or a bug?

 You get what you write.

 2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}

 3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the
 disabled frenchspacing

 4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with
 {}

 Wolfgang

Thank You for the quick answer.

I don't  understand where the second space should be come 
from.
I use the empty group {} always to separate optionless 
commands.

I think it is the same whether I write:

. . or
xxxy.{} . or
.
. or
.{}
.

If I use

.\space  or .\space{} 

the first \space produce NO space (that is not what I wish)

I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
The following space will be printed and THIS space should be 
smaller in an broad-environment if I use \nospace or larger 
in an packed-environment if I use \space.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with packed and \space / broad and /nospace

2009-02-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 23.02.2009 um 22:35 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:


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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 21:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

Am 23.02.2009 um 21:52 schrieb Bernd Kosubek:

If I run texexec over this, the last three line are
longer than the first line AND they have the same
lengths.

What have I not understand -- or is it a known problem
or a bug?


You get what you write.

2. Sentence: \space{} = 2 spaces because of the {}

3. Sentence: Wide than the first sentence because of the
disabled frenchspacing

4. Sentence: You write \nospace but insert a space with
{}


Thank You for the quick answer.

I don't  understand where the second space should be come
from.
I use the empty group {} always to separate optionless
commands.

I think it is the same whether I write:

. . or
xxxy.{} . or
.
. or
.{}
.

If I use

.\space  or .\space{} 

the first \space produce NO space (that is not what I wish)


Nonsense, the first \space produce a space and the whitespace
in the input between \space and  is gobbled from the macro.

The empty group after the second space prevents TeX from gobbling
the space and you get now one space from the \space command and
another one from the whitespace in the output.


I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
The following space will be printed and THIS space should be
smaller in an broad-environment if I use \nospace or larger
in an packed-environment if I use \space.


You need a empty group to get a space after commands like \TeX
because the command gobbles otherwise all following whitespace.

Try the following example:

text\relax text\space text\space{}\space{}\space{}\space text

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with packed and \space / broad and /nospace

2009-02-23 Thread Bernd Kosubek
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Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 22:34 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:


 Nonsense, the first \space produce a space and the
 whitespace in the input between \space and  is
 gobbled from the macro.

 The empty group after the second space prevents TeX from
 gobbling the space and you get now one space from the
 \space command and another one from the whitespace in the
 output.

  I suppose, that the empty group has no effect.
  The following space will be printed and THIS space
  should be smaller in an broad-environment if I use
  \nospace or larger in an packed-environment if I use
  \space.

 You need a empty group to get a space after commands like
 \TeX because the command gobbles otherwise all following
 whitespace.

 Try the following example:

 text\relax text\space text\space{}\space{}\space{}\space
 text

 Wolfgang

Thank you

I think I understand it (I hope so)!

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