Re: [NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-21 Thread Hans Hagen

Patrick Gundlach wrote:



Looks fine so far, but I have only checked the chars I use (mostly
german). Did you consider posting this to the tex-fonts list?
(Although I wouldn't put too much effort posting there, the answer
will be 'we don't need this').
 

indeed, let's sort out our own problems; it's no real problem to get it in the distributions, but i'm too tired of this 'we don't need it' or 'why not use ...' or 'you are stupid because ...' kind of discussions; 


actually, i'd like to discuss (on this list) some standardization with respect 
to encodings and then we can make a nice zip with everything needed for those

Hans 



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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-21 Thread Hans Hagen

Adam Lindsay wrote:


Patrick Gundlach said this at Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:34:11 +0200:

 


Hi Adam,
   


So with those goals in mind, does anyone notice their favorite *letter*
missing? Is there essential punctuation missing?
 


Looks fine so far, but I have only checked the chars I use (mostly
german). Did you consider posting this to the tex-fonts list?
(Although I wouldn't put too much effort posting there, the answer
will be 'we don't need this').
   



No, I haven't, mostly for that reason. The discussion will inevitably
center around why rather than what. Still, I probably should, once the
project is further along.
 

later ... we just add the stiff to the context distribution, make a 
bunch of tfm files (lm to start with,  iwona/kurier/antikwa  next) and 
we will see what happens  ...  we can (maybe have to) involve Boguslaw 
Jackowski since he's one of my personal font authorities -)


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Adam,

 On Hans's suggestion, I've been working on a dense character encoding
 that does away with combining accents and extraneous symbol-like
 characters in favor of fully accented characters.

 http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/dense.pdf

do you have an enc file to play with?

 So with those goals in mind, does anyone notice their favorite *letter*
 missing? Is there essential punctuation missing?


Looks fine so far, but I have only checked the chars I use (mostly
german). Did you consider posting this to the tex-fonts list?
(Although I wouldn't put too much effort posting there, the answer
will be 'we don't need this').


Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Patrick Gundlach said this at Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:34:11 +0200:

Hi Adam,
 So with those goals in mind, does anyone notice their favorite *letter*
 missing? Is there essential punctuation missing?


Looks fine so far, but I have only checked the chars I use (mostly
german). Did you consider posting this to the tex-fonts list?
(Although I wouldn't put too much effort posting there, the answer
will be 'we don't need this').

No, I haven't, mostly for that reason. The discussion will inevitably
center around why rather than what. Still, I probably should, once the
project is further along.
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-19 Thread Vit Zyka

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Hi Adam,



On Hans's suggestion, I've been working on a dense character encoding
that does away with combining accents and extraneous symbol-like
characters in favor of fully accented characters.




http://homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/dense.pdf



do you have an enc file to play with?



So with those goals in mind, does anyone notice their favorite *letter*
missing? Is there essential punctuation missing?




OK for Czech chars too.

Only tcaron char is not searchable (if in my AR7 search for any letter, 
say 'a' I got all accented a variant; if for 't' 'ť' is not find), but I 
do not know if the problem is in a) AR, b) CMAP, c) encoding (enco in 
the font presented in the PDF has mostly tcaron but tquoteright is 
presented too). But tt is not a big problem.


vit

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Dense Encoding - Comments wanted

2005-08-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Vit Zyka said this at Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:42:18 +0200:

So with those goals in mind, does anyone notice their favorite *letter*
missing? Is there essential punctuation missing?


OK for Czech chars too.

Thanks. Good to know.

Only tcaron char is not searchable (if in my AR7 search for any letter,
say 'a' I got all accented a variant; if for 't' 'È' is not find), but I
do not know if the problem is in a) AR, b) CMAP, c) encoding (enco in
the font presented in the PDF has mostly tcaron but tquoteright is
presented too). But tt is not a big problem.

Hmm, interesting. I get the same results in Apple's PDF viewer. (The
capital letter Tcaron is searchable, though!) There's a fair bit that I
don't understand about CMAP, however. (Also note that this was generated
a few months ago, and that recent CMAP improvements (I think I saw some
corrections go by on the mailing list while on holiday) won't be
reflected here.)

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