[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
Am 11.01.24 um 22:04 schrieb Bruce Horrocks: 1. "ConTeXt" should be the biggest word - or as an obvious title for the poster, away from the actual drawing. This will be only a part of the poster. I imagine a 3x3 grid with a title above and some information (website etc.) below. The 9 elements of the grid will be - such a diagram that explains the building blocks / general workflow – the diagram of the layout areas – the project structure (environment, product, component) – some examples of code and results I wanted to use the “christmas card” squares for borders around and inbetween. 2. Don't add the "MkXL" bit - it's a distracting detail that no one needs to know at this stage. Also it looks like "Mk 40" in Roman numerals, or extra large. ok. But “extra large” is intentional, I guess. 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? Hans uses different versions. We use “context group”, but I keep ConTeXt; esp. in the context of LaTeX (DANTE booth!), I’d like to stress that it’s still TeX. 4. It's not clear whether the intersecting boxes are simply decorative or meant to present some sort of logical structure. I'm happy for it to be decorative, in which case fewer labels might be better. ConTeXt “wraps” the LuaMetaTeX binary, since it handles the input as well as the output. I wasn’t sure how to show what controls what. 5. Similar to the box structure comment is that it's not clear which words I should be looking at. Ask yourself: what word(s) do I want the viewer to remember when they walk away? 6. Consider swapping the TeX and MetaPost circles so that Lua, MetaPost and TeX are read left to right as they appear in the acronym LMTX. Perhaps invert the "triangle" so that there are two circles at the top. My first idea was to show that TeX and MP are under Lua control, but Hans disagreed. So while the 3 subsystems interact, I wanted to keep TeX on top. 7. It doesn't really tell the viewer that Context is a typesetting system - it looks like it is a system for producing XMLs and PDFs. (Which is what it is but... much more) I’ll show some typography on the poster, and there will be books around. 8. Don't forget space for a URL and/or a QR code to the Contextgarden website. See above. Sorry if the above sounds harsh - not meant to be - just brain storming. No problem, thank you! I have a suggestion though. Use the Christmas card code / memory game code to produce patterns to use as the dots in the QR code? If the QR is large enough for people to distinguish the individual dots then it would provide a talking point? Or maybe have a copy of the card game to hand and challenge them to find a randomly drawn card in the QR code? I don’t think I understand your intention. I wouldn’t construct a QR code out of other stuff, it would become too big. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
On 12/01/2024 00:18, Bruce Horrocks wrote: 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? Maybe this is the time to change to a 'ctx' token instead of 'context' (e.g. a lot ambiguity when searching online) ctx as in cee-tee-ex or if you want it to texify: cTx where the T is like an umbrella (in the world of typesetting ;-) .F ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
> On 11 Jan 2024, at 19:15, vm via ntg-context wrote: > > > > On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think? > > as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. > what does is describe? > > e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the > 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) > (no lua?) Agreed. In no particular order: 1. "ConTeXt" should be the biggest word - or as an obvious title for the poster, away from the actual drawing. 2. Don't add the "MkXL" bit - it's a distracting detail that no one needs to know at this stage. Also it looks like "Mk 40" in Roman numerals, or extra large. 3. I though Hans had stopped using the TeX style capitalisation now i.e. just "Context"? 4. It's not clear whether the intersecting boxes are simply decorative or meant to present some sort of logical structure. I'm happy for it to be decorative, in which case fewer labels might be better. 5. Similar to the box structure comment is that it's not clear which words I should be looking at. Ask yourself: what word(s) do I want the viewer to remember when they walk away? 6. Consider swapping the TeX and MetaPost circles so that Lua, MetaPost and TeX are read left to right as they appear in the acronym LMTX. Perhaps invert the "triangle" so that there are two circles at the top. 7. It doesn't really tell the viewer that Context is a typesetting system - it looks like it is a system for producing XMLs and PDFs. (Which is what it is but... much more) 8. Don't forget space for a URL and/or a QR code to the Contextgarden website. Sorry if the above sounds harsh - not meant to be - just brain storming. I have a suggestion though. Use the Christmas card code / memory game code to produce patterns to use as the dots in the QR code? If the QR is large enough for people to distinguish the individual dots then it would provide a talking point? Or maybe have a copy of the card game to hand and challenge them to find a randomly drawn card in the QR code? — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
Am 11.01.24 um 20:15 schrieb vm via ntg-context: On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think? as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. what does is describe? e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) (no lua?) I tried to show that ConTeXt consists of tex and lua files – but the functional elements probably would make more sense, like in the binary. I’m not sure which to name, though: parser, paragraph builder, page builder, pdf backend – what else? And isn’t it too complicated again? Resources are not part of the core system (even if partially of the distribution), but needed depending on the project. Yes, input can also contain Lua, of course. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
On 11/01/2024 19:52, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think? as is, it is difficult to understand where to look. what does is describe? e.g. what is the distinction between the 'source' (lua tex) and the 'resources' (fonts icc lib) and the 'frontend' (tex xml png ...mp) (no lua?) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: LMTX schema for poster
Here’s a preliminary schema of LMTX. What do you think? Is there something important missing? Maybe add mtxrun, hyphenation patterns, modules. Move the images to the resources? Maybe I should replace the “files” within MkXL with the parts like parser, par builder and whatever? I don’t want to complicate it needlessly. I’ll redraw it in MetaPost (with proper typography) if I’m sure enough. Hraban LMTX-Schema.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
