[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
Hi Shiv, -- Original Message -- From "Shiv Shankar Dayal" mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 1/24/2024 9:44:09 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Yes. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:08 PM luigi scarso mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. TeX primitives ? Apologies if you are already aware: There are 21 ConTeXt manuals entitled "low-level TeX" here: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Documentation These might be a good place to begin exploration of interactions between TeX primitives and ConTeXt. Best wishes -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
Yes. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:08 PM luigi scarso wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal < > shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan >> TeX macros. >> >> > TeX primitives ? > > -- > luigi > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal < shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX > macros. > > TeX primitives ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:52: Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. As I already wrote you can use \parindent etc. in your document but unless you know what you're doing you should keep it to a minimum to avoid conflicts with other mechanism which rely on certain settings, e.g. changing the \parindent value can result in unwanted result with paragraph indentation set with \setupindenting[...]. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:20 PM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:37: > > For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can > > LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile > > plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? > > You mix up two different things here. > > 1. Plain TeX is a collection of TeX macros like ConTeXt or LaTeX. > > 2. LuaMetaTeX is a program like pdfTeX or LuaTeX which provides commands > which are used by above mentioned collections to create macros. > > Even though ConTeXt provides some commands which available in plain TeX > not all of the are supported which means you can't process plain TeX > documents. > > On the other hand commands which are provided by the engine like > \parindent can be used in a ConTeXt document but higher level mechanism > like \setupindenting are the better choice. > > Wolfgang > > -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:37: For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? You mix up two different things here. 1. Plain TeX is a collection of TeX macros like ConTeXt or LaTeX. 2. LuaMetaTeX is a program like pdfTeX or LuaTeX which provides commands which are used by above mentioned collections to create macros. Even though ConTeXt provides some commands which available in plain TeX not all of the are supported which means you can't process plain TeX documents. On the other hand commands which are provided by the engine like \parindent can be used in a ConTeXt document but higher level mechanism like \setupindenting are the better choice. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:02 PM Hans Hagen wrote: > On 1/24/2024 2:55 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > Can we use plain TeX commands which are available in LuaMetaTeX in an > > arbitrary manner or are there any restrictions? > what do you mean with arbitrary plain tex commands > > - >Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt
On 1/24/2024 2:55 PM, Shiv Shankar Dayal wrote: Dear List, Can we use plain TeX commands which are available in LuaMetaTeX in an arbitrary manner or are there any restrictions? what do you mean with arbitrary plain tex commands - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
