Re: [NTG-context] etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)?
Dnia 2013-03-20, o godz. 12:22:55 Jonathan Barchi barc...@gmail.com napisał(a): BNF grammar descriptions, but some reading suggests that this can't be done for *TeX. Don't listen to that. While it's technically true, (a) most users don't redefine catcodes or internal macros anyway (and imho there are fewer reasons to do such hacking in ConTeXt than in LaTeX) and (b) for the sake of syntax highlighting/parsing by external tools, you have to assume some sanity anyway (so that you don't have to reimplement full TeX instead of writing some parser). That said, I know little about regular languages, BNF notations etc. (with the exception of some _practical_ experience with regexen), so I'm not sure about what I've written above. But I would guess that if you make some (reasonable) assumptions about catcodes and command syntax, writing a BNF style grammar for (at least some part of) ConTeXt might be pretty doable. Regards, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)?
On 3/20/2013 5:22 PM, Jonathan Barchi wrote:
Is that scite code free software? I'd love to take a look at how you generate
the files for it, and/or how its lexer is implemented.
it's all in context/data/scite (if only because I use it on a daily basis)
I'm still figuring this part out. Emacs is quite modular, so I'm not
sure what the
best approach is yet. AUCTEX implements syntax highlighting internally, in
a sub-package called font-latex (that does work reasonably well for ConTeXt
too), but there is also more sophisticated support for LaTeX that doesn't cross
over to context.
best start from scratch .. too many differences .. the easy way is just
to color symbols special
red: {}$
green: \. \
blue: []()#=
yellow: %^_-+/`|
that should be doable i guess
next figure out how to read in list with known \commands
Hans
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[NTG-context] etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)?
Hi all, I'm using the emacs package etexshow to provide a quick ConTeXt command reference in EMACS. This utility parses the interface file cont-en.xml (for english, in my case) and uses the contents to provide a basic dictionary of available commands. In the documentation for etexshow, there is a reference to being able to generate a complete interface description (the aforementioned xml file) like so: ;; There is still an xml-file shipped with this code. Usually you would ;; generate the xml-file with 'texexec'ing the file setupe.tex. Then you ;; will get the cont-en.xml file that can (could) be used as an input for ;; this etexshow. But for now, this won't work. It will work rsn. It is not clear whether that file (setupe.tex or setup.tex) is/was supposed to be shipped with etexshow or was supposed to be a part of context. I've searched and found a few references to this problem, but never a definitive answer, so if anyone knows the answer to these questions I would love to know!! 1. Is the referenced setup(e).tex a file that was previously shipped with ConTeXt - presumably mkii since the author refers to texexec - or would this be something the author would have included with etexshow itself? 2. Is the interface file, e.g. cont-en.xml, auto-generated from all of the defined macros in ConTeXt, or is that file hand-written as metadata to accompany the source-code definitions? 3. Since self-documentation is a goal of the project, is it possible to generate something akin to the interface file that presents a snapshot of all commands known to context at a given time, for use in things like etexshow or other tools? If so, is it possible to do this with modules loaded to see what they additionally define? Thanks in advance for any help! I'm hoping to use any information I get to update etexshow, if possible, and maybe update the ConTeXt support in AUCTEX as well. I think it would be really cool if AUCTEX could reach out at compile or run time and pull in macro definitions from the installed environment, for example. Best, Jon ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)?
On 3/18/2013 11:35 PM, Jonathan Barchi wrote: Hi all, I'm using the emacs package etexshow to provide a quick ConTeXt command reference in EMACS. This utility parses the interface file cont-en.xml (for english, in my case) and uses the contents to provide a basic dictionary of available commands. In the documentation for etexshow, there is a reference to being able to generate a complete interface description (the aforementioned xml file) like so: ;; There is still an xml-file shipped with this code. Usually you would ;; generate the xml-file with 'texexec'ing the file setupe.tex. Then you ;; will get the cont-en.xml file that can (could) be used as an input for ;; this etexshow. But for now, this won't work. It will work rsn. It is not clear whether that file (setupe.tex or setup.tex) is/was supposed to be shipped with etexshow or was supposed to be a part of context. I've searched and found a few references to this problem, but never a definitive answer, so if anyone knows the answer to these questions I would love to know!! 1. Is the referenced setup(e).tex a file that was previously shipped with ConTeXt - presumably mkii since the author refers to texexec - or would this be something the author would have included with etexshow itself? 2. Is the interface file, e.g. cont-en.xml, auto-generated from all of the defined macros in ConTeXt, or is that file hand-written as metadata to accompany the source-code definitions? the xml file is the master file (but I admit that it's a bit behind) if you only need the commands then the mult-def.lua files are better, also because they contain low level commands and primitives (it's what I use to generate files for scite where we have a rather advanced lexer) 3. Since self-documentation is a goal of the project, is it possible to generate something akin to the interface file that presents a snapshot of all commands known to context at a given time, for use in things like etexshow or other tools? If so, is it possible to do this with modules loaded to see what they additionally define? we can add a --emacs to mtx-interfaces.lua if something other than xml is needed .. so, what does emacs need? Thanks in advance for any help! I'm hoping to use any information I get to update etexshow, if possible, and maybe update the ConTeXt support in AUCTEX as well. I think it would be really cool if AUCTEX could reach out at compile or run time and pull in macro definitions from the installed environment, for example. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)?
That is a wonderful idea and one that would be very, very helpful, and much appreciated. Best Jonathan Barchi barc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm using the emacs package etexshow to provide a quick ConTeXt command reference in EMACS. This utility parses the interface file cont-en.xml (for english, in my case) and uses the contents to provide a basic dictionary of available commands. In the documentation for etexshow, there is a reference to being able to generate a complete interface description (the aforementioned xml file) like so: ;; There is still an xml-file shipped with this code. Usually you would ;; generate the xml-file with 'texexec'ing the file setupe.tex. Then you ;; will get the cont-en.xml file that can (could) be used as an input for ;; this etexshow. But for now, this won't work. It will work rsn. It is not clear whether that file (setupe.tex or setup.tex) is/was supposed to be shipped with etexshow or was supposed to be a part of context. I've searched and found a few references to this problem, but never a definitive answer, so if anyone knows the answer to these questions I would love to know!! 1. Is the referenced setup(e).tex a file that was previously shipped with ConTeXt - presumably mkii since the author refers to texexec - or would this be something the author would have included with etexshow itself? 2. Is the interface file, e.g. cont-en.xml, auto-generated from all of the defined macros in ConTeXt, or is that file hand-written as metadata to accompany the source-code definitions? 3. Since self-documentation is a goal of the project, is it possible to generate something akin to the interface file that presents a snapshot of all commands known to context at a given time, for use in things like etexshow or other tools? If so, is it possible to do this with modules loaded to see what they additionally define? Thanks in advance for any help! I'm hoping to use any information I get to update etexshow, if possible, and maybe update the ConTeXt support in AUCTEX as well. I think it would be really cool if AUCTEX could reach out at compile or run time and pull in macro definitions from the installed environment, for example. Best, Jon ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
