Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-08-14 07:19:17, Gour D. wrote:
 Finally, for the high-quality output, we plan to convert to ConTeXt
 (via pandoc since there is no ConTeXt writer for sphinx/docutils) for
 high-quality PDF output (if rst2pdf won't be satisfying or if we would
 like to provide paper putput.

Hi Gour, Hraban, John, and the list,

did you consider directly processing reST or similar markdown with
context using lua? Certainly it has advantages to have a converter output
context (backslash style) code and being able to finalize it. But
implementing some .rst processing directly in context shouldn't be that
hard (and with luatex you could handle the html output as well). 

Has somebody already made some steps in that way?  (I'm thinking about
doing so for quite some time now but then, it's not that pressing
either.)

Philipp


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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread John Haltiwanger
This was exactly what I was wondering last night:

How hard would it be to just write the converter into LuaTeX? Does
LuaTeX's position as a moving target affect this at all?

As you suggest Phillip, it might not be so difficult. It certainly
sounds like a worthwhile project. Seeming as how there is an obvious
spread of interest, perhaps we can start working on something
collaboratively.

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Philipp Gesang
pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
 On 2010-08-14 07:19:17, Gour D. wrote:
 Finally, for the high-quality output, we plan to convert to ConTeXt
 (via pandoc since there is no ConTeXt writer for sphinx/docutils) for
 high-quality PDF output (if rst2pdf won't be satisfying or if we would
 like to provide paper putput.

 Hi Gour, Hraban, John, and the list,

 did you consider directly processing reST or similar markdown with
 context using lua? Certainly it has advantages to have a converter output
 context (backslash style) code and being able to finalize it. But
 implementing some .rst processing directly in context shouldn't be that
 hard (and with luatex you could handle the html output as well).

 Has somebody already made some steps in that way?  (I'm thinking about
 doing so for quite some time now but then, it's not that pressing
 either.)

 Philipp


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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
There is a lua markdown converter:
http://github.com/jgm/lunamark
It can output html and latex, I don't think it would be hard to make it
output context and integrate it in some way.

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 09:31:06AM +, John Haltiwanger wrote:
 This was exactly what I was wondering last night:
 
 How hard would it be to just write the converter into LuaTeX? Does
 LuaTeX's position as a moving target affect this at all?
 
 As you suggest Phillip, it might not be so difficult. It certainly
 sounds like a worthwhile project. Seeming as how there is an obvious
 spread of interest, perhaps we can start working on something
 collaboratively.
 
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Philipp Gesang
 pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
  On 2010-08-14 07:19:17, Gour D. wrote:
  Finally, for the high-quality output, we plan to convert to ConTeXt
  (via pandoc since there is no ConTeXt writer for sphinx/docutils) for
  high-quality PDF output (if rst2pdf won't be satisfying or if we would
  like to provide paper putput.
 
  Hi Gour, Hraban, John, and the list,
 
  did you consider directly processing reST or similar markdown with
  context using lua? Certainly it has advantages to have a converter output
  context (backslash style) code and being able to finalize it. But
  implementing some .rst processing directly in context shouldn't be that
  hard (and with luatex you could handle the html output as well).
 
  Has somebody already made some steps in that way?  (I'm thinking about
  doing so for quite some time now but then, it's not that pressing
  either.)
 
  Philipp
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread Hans Hagen

On 14-8-2010 11:23, Philipp Gesang wrote:


Has somebody already made some steps in that way?  (I'm thinking about
doing so for quite some time now but then, it's not that pressing
either.)


is there a precise spec?

(I'm still looking for a few examples that I can use at the ctx 
conference.)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-08-14 11:52:12, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 14-8-2010 11:23, Philipp Gesang wrote:
 
 Has somebody already made some steps in that way?  (I'm thinking about
 doing so for quite some time now but then, it's not that pressing
 either.)
 
 is there a precise spec?

You mean something like this?:
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#quick-syntax-overview

Hth, Philipp
 
 (I'm still looking for a few examples that I can use at the ctx
 conference.)
 
 Hans
 
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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-08-14 um 11:23 schrieb Philipp Gesang:


did you consider directly processing reST or similar markdown with
context using lua? Certainly it has advantages to have a converter  
output

context (backslash style) code and being able to finalize it. But
implementing some .rst processing directly in context shouldn't be  
that

hard (and with luatex you could handle the html output as well).


I was planning on using Python docutils with changing its LaTeX  
converter for ConTeXt.


But of course direct LuaTeX parsing of other markup would be really  
nice.


Markdown, ReST, Creole - I don't really care, as far as there's a  
parser in Python, so that I can integrate it in my Django-based Web CMS.


None of their specs is really precise AFAIR, but I guess ConTeXt's  
standard markup commands are flexible enough.


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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt (was: simplefonts or Typecripts)

2010-08-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-08-13 um 21:11 schrieb Gour D.:


For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
into final production...


Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special editor  
(WYSIWYM?) for your markup?


For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup (probably  
ReST) with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt - PDF.

(I won't need math.)

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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt (was: simplefonts or Typecripts)

2010-08-13 Thread John Haltiwanger
This is very similar to a project in which I am planning to engage in
the near future. Output to both HTML and PDF utilizing a simple markup
seems to be a killer feature that at least some of us are looking
for. Cross-media publishing, however, is never painless. It's like a
Holy Grail.

Pandoc makes me want to either learn Haskell or implement my own
markup with a focus towards multiple output formats and typesetting in
general (most markups seem to be focused on developer workflows).

Anyway, a fruitful space for ConTeXt, thanks to its strive for configurability.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net wrote:
 Am 2010-08-13 um 21:11 schrieb Gour D.:

 For now, it can be enough considering that atm we'll mostly write
 markdown/reST and convert to ConTeXt via pandoc, but later we'll go
 into final production...

 Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special editor
 (WYSIWYM?) for your markup?

 For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup (probably ReST)
 with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt - PDF.
 (I won't need math.)

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Re: [NTG-context] other markup to ConTeXt

2010-08-13 Thread Gour D.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:35:04 +0200
 Henning == Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net wrote:

Henning Sounds interesting. What's your workflow? Do you use a special
Henning editor (WYSIWYM?) for your markup?

Writing markdown/reST in Emacs which has nice modes for both markup
formats. (There is even pandoc-mode.). Then I plan to use Sphinx to
generate nice html and qthelp files.

Finally, for the high-quality output, we plan to convert to ConTeXt
(via pandoc since there is no ConTeXt writer for sphinx/docutils) for
high-quality PDF output (if rst2pdf won't be satisfying or if we would
like to provide paper putput.

Henning For a new project I'm planning to use some simple markup
Henning (probably ReST) with a Web CMS to create HTML and ConTeXt -
Henning PDF. (I won't need math.)

I don't need math as well. ;)


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