Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
On 22-1-2010 19:20, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\ifmmode\expandafter\mathscript \fi}
to math-ini.mkiv?
probably something
\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\groupedcommand{...
then but lets see what aditya thinks of it ...
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 22-1-2010 19:20, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\ifmmode\expandafter\mathscript \fi}
to math-ini.mkiv?
probably something
\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\groupedcommand{...
then but lets see what aditya thinks of it ...
I think that we should have \calligraphic for text calligraphic fonts
only. For math, plain tex had \cal as a font switch, MkIV has \mathscript
and \mathcal. I am not sure that we need another font switch in math.
I know, that in mkii \calligraphic is available in math mode, but I did
not like that either. Since you are asking for my opinion, I think that it
should go :-). For backward compatibility, we can add
appropriate definition of \calligraphic to m-mkii module.
While we are at this topic, I think that we should change the definitions
of \mathbf, \mathtf, etc from being a font switch to being a grouped
command (to be more in tune with ams convetions). So, in math-ini.mkiv we
can have
diff --git a/math-ini.mkiv b/math-ini.mkiv
index 17b0205..65bd43c 100644
--- a/math-ini.mkiv
+++ b/math-ini.mkiv
@@ -72,23 +72,27 @@
\unexpanded\def\mathfraktur {\setmathalphabet{fraktur}}
\unexpanded\def\mathblackboard{\setmathalphabet{blackboard}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathrm{\setmathattribute{rm}{tf}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathss{\setmathattribute{ss}{tf}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathtt{\setmathattribute{tt}{tf}}
-
-\unexpanded\def\mathtf{\setmathstyle{tf}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathbf{\setmathstyle{bf}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathsl{\setmathstyle{sl}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathit{\setmathstyle{it}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathbs{\setmathstyle{bs}}
-\unexpanded\def\mathbi{\setmathstyle{bi}}
-
-\let\tfmath\mathtf % maybe a grouped command
-\let\bfmath\mathbf
-\let\slmath\mathsl
-\let\itmath\mathit
-\let\bsmath\mathbs
-\let\bimath\mathbi
+\unexpanded\def\rmmath{\setmathattribute{rm}{tf}}
+\unexpanded\def\ssmath{\setmathattribute{ss}{tf}}
+\unexpanded\def\ttmath{\setmathattribute{tt}{tf}}
+
+\unexpanded\def\tfmath{\setmathstyle{tf}}
+\unexpanded\def\bfmath{\setmathstyle{bf}}
+\unexpanded\def\slmath{\setmathstyle{sl}}
+\unexpanded\def\itmath{\setmathstyle{it}}
+\unexpanded\def\bsmath{\setmathstyle{bs}}
+\unexpanded\def\bimath{\setmathstyle{bi}}
+
+\unexpanded\def\mathrm{\groupedcommand{\rmmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathss{\groupedcommand{\ssmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathtt{\groupedcommand{\ttmath}{}}
+
+\unexpanded\def\mathtf{\groupedcommand{\tfmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathbf{\groupedcommand{\bfmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathsl{\groupedcommand{\slmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathit{\groupedcommand{\itmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathbs{\groupedcommand{\bsmath}{}}
+\unexpanded\def\mathbi{\groupedcommand{\bimath}{}}
\let\Bbb\mathblackboard
What do you think?
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
On 24-1-2010 22:17, Aditya Mahajan wrote: I think that we should have \calligraphic for text calligraphic fonts only. For math, plain tex had \cal as a font switch, MkIV has \mathscript and \mathcal. I am not sure that we need another font switch in math. I know, that in mkii \calligraphic is available in math mode, but I did not like that either. Since you are asking for my opinion, I think that it should go :-). For backward compatibility, we can add appropriate definition of \calligraphic to m-mkii module. ok, just send me a patch then While we are at this topic, I think that we should change the definitions of \mathbf, \mathtf, etc from being a font switch to being a grouped command (to be more in tune with ams convetions). So, in math-ini.mkiv we can have diff --git a/math-ini.mkiv b/math-ini.mkiv index 17b0205..65bd43c 100644 --- a/math-ini.mkiv +++ b/math-ini.mkiv @@ -72,23 +72,27 @@ ... What do you think? i have no problem with that ... so if no one comes up with good arguments against it we can do that Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
On 22-1-2010 16:55, Matthias Weber wrote:
Dear all,
what's the best way to use calligraphic letters in LuaTeX?
I am used to
\starttext
\calligraphic{H}
\stoptext
which doesn't work in Mark IV (undefined control sequence).
that was actually something math
in mkiv you have to define a caligraphic font
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
Yes indeed, I need this just for math.
So do I really need to grab some font that has calligraphic , write/
use a typescript, and then write
$text{\calligraphic H}$
or is there a simpler way that works out of the box?
Sorry for asking these simple questions, I just haven't started
looking into fonts yet...
Matthias Weber
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 22-1-2010 16:55, Matthias Weber wrote:
Dear all,
what's the best way to use calligraphic letters in LuaTeX?
I am used to
\starttext
\calligraphic{H}
\stoptext
which doesn't work in Mark IV (undefined control sequence).
that was actually something math
in mkiv you have to define a caligraphic font
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
Am 22.01.10 18:49, schrieb Matthias Weber:
Yes indeed, I need this just for math.
So do I really need to grab some font that has calligraphic , write/use
a typescript, and then write
$text{\calligraphic H}$
or is there a simpler way that works out of the box?
$H{\cal H}$
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
Thanks!
Matthias
On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 22.01.10 18:49, schrieb Matthias Weber:
Yes indeed, I need this just for math.
So do I really need to grab some font that has calligraphic , write/
use
a typescript, and then write
$text{\calligraphic H}$
or is there a simpler way that works out of the box?
$H{\cal H}$
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Calligraphic letters in Mark IV
Am 22.01.10 18:29, schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 22-1-2010 16:55, Matthias Weber wrote:
Dear all,
what's the best way to use calligraphic letters in LuaTeX?
I am used to
\starttext
\calligraphic{H}
\stoptext
which doesn't work in Mark IV (undefined control sequence).
that was actually something math
in mkiv you have to define a caligraphic font
but \calligraphic is no longer available in mkiv, can you add
\unexpanded\def\calligraphic{\ifmmode\expandafter\mathscript\fi}
to math-ini.mkiv?
Wolfgang
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