Re: [NTG-context] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-17 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 22:23, Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com wrote:
 I've been on the periphery of TeX for years, as a casual user of LaTeX and
 also as an implementer of publishing software.  However, I'm afraid I
 haven't kept in as close touch as I'd like, and now I find myself trying to
 absorb a lot in a short time.  I'm trying to choose what software to use in
 building an XML-TeX workflow.
 I'd appreciate any help with the following questions:

 True or False: TeX can be categorized along three orthogonal axes:

 by format (plain TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt, others?)

In general true, just a tiny detail; ConTeXt has several formats:
- English (cont-en), Dutch (cont-nl), German (cont-de), ... [not too
interesting to you, I guess ...]
- ConTeXt MKII and ConTeXt MKIV are somehow different formats, but
that distinction is already made on the engine basis

There are other formats like cstex, cslatex, ..., but they are not too
important.

 by implementation (web2c, pdfTeX/pdfLaTeX, LuaTeX, others?)

No, that is called by engine: tex, pdftex, xetex, luatex are the
most important ones. Others not too important are known (ptex, ...)

MikTeX and TeX Live are not compatible, but I'm not sure how to classify that.

 by distribution (MikTeX, TeXLive, MacTeX, others?)

MacTeX is basically TeX Live, repackaged for Mac in a more
user-friendly way. Another important distribution for ConTeXt users is
ConTeXt Minimals. There are many other distributions (w32tex, ...),
many of them obsolete by now (gwTeX, tetex, emtex, fptex, ...). The
most important ones are just MikTeX and TeX Live (including MacTeX),
plus minimals for ConTeXt users.

 I was going to use plain
 TeX, but it seems a lot of features like placing text boxes and graphics
 anywhere, using system fonts, etc. are more available for LaTeX and ConTeXt.

Using system fonts depends on engine. Only XeTeX and LuaTeX allow
that. You can use any system font with plain XeTeX, but it's slightly
easier to access the fonts with LaTeX and ConTeXt. (But if you
generate the output automatically, it hardly makes a difference.)

ConTeXt makes an enormous difference in layout issues.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 17-11-2010 10:23, Peter Davis wrote:


   1. by format (plain TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt, others?)


there are others but they're sort of obsolete


   2. by implementation (web2c, pdfTeX/pdfLaTeX, LuaTeX, others?)


see remarks by Mojca: engines (etex, pdftex, xetex, luatex), 
implementation (web2c, etc), pdflatex is just a format



   3. by distribution (MikTeX, TeXLive, MacTeX, others?)

   2. True or False: plain TeX and LaTeX(2e) are warhorses ... been
around for decades, quirks well known, lots of documentation, etc.


the latex kernel yes, styles and extensions is another matter


3. True or False: ConTeXt is newer, with a lot of built-in features, but
still changing quite a bit from build to build.


depends on what you use ... you're not a demanding power user in terms 
of typeserting and the basic mechanism are ok (mkii does not change at 
all, while mkiv is developed in sync with luatex)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Davis
Thanks for all the information, and for helping me update and refine my 
view of the (TeX) world.


For the project I'm doing now, which involves creating desktop 
publishing type documents (multiple text flows, explicit control of 
placement of text and graphic elements, etc.), ConTeXt seems to be 
winning hand's down.  I may also be using the XML features, so that's 
another plus.


However, I'm also attracted by the stability and widespread use of plain 
TeX and LaTeX.


It's clear from this that whatever path I take, there are lots of very 
knowledgeable and helpful people to get me over the hurdles.


Thank you!

-pd

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Peter Davis
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