Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

2021-09-12 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/12/2021 9:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
    [default:test]
    [default]
    [cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka

With fonts like that we might end up in issues anyway:

\definefontfeature[default:test][default][mlxx=yes,wflm=yes]
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*default:test] :> <>

e.g.

WFLMWolfram Language (Mathematica)

so we get font specific 4 char feature names that themselves have script 
/ language specifications (like latin default and cyrillic serbian 
wolfram) ... these could have been ss* features (after all, cv and ss 
are wildcards and opentype has never been that consistent), not that it 
matters much because it gets processed anyway, but it's a clear signal 
that anyone can roll out adn use any feature name


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

2021-09-12 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/12/2021 9:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote:

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
    [default:test]
    [default]
    [cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka


  \definefont
    [SomeFont]
    [name:iosevka*default:test]


@Marcel: I suggest to load ttc fonts with the file option.

\starttext
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*none]Iosevka
\stoptext

as it experimental anyway, i changed this trick to

\definefontfeature[default:test][default][cvxx={repeatlast:3}]

repeatmiddle and repeatfirst also supported (it also permits context 
users to play with runtime feature definitions using multiples that act 
as extensibles)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

2021-09-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context

Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context schrieb am 12.09.2021 um 01:12:

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

  \definefontfeature
[default:test]
[default]
[cv36=2,cv26=6]

What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.


There is a table on the github page with the results from all alternatives.

Look at section "Character Variats" on https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka


  \definefont
[SomeFont]
[name:iosevka*default:test]


@Marcel: I suggest to load ttc fonts with the file option.

\starttext
\definedfont[file:iosevka.ttc(Iosevka)*none]Iosevka
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

2021-09-11 Thread Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >  \definefontfeature
> >[default:test]
> >[default]
> >[cv36=2,cv26=6]
> 
> What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?

Actually it is an alternate, but only partially.

> 
> >  \definefont
> >[SomeFont]
> >[name:iosevka*default:test]
> >  \starttext
> >  \SomeFont
> >  I live in a dot-heavy world.
> >  \stoptext
> > 
> > has six dots instead of one dot over each "i". Tests with multiple other
> > font shapers and inspection of the font file confirmed that this is not
> > intentional behavior.
> > 
> > Could you take a look at that?
> > (Based on a luotfload bug report at
> > https://github.com/latex3/luaotfload/issues/202)
> when a number is specified for a multiple and the is > 1 we repeat the last
> glyph ... this is a 'secret' feature that (already a while ago) we added
> when discussing / testing a experimental arabic font in combination with a
> paragraph optimizer ... normally users will say 'yes' and not give a number

Thanks, this explains a lot. In this font it's problematic though
because the cv.. features have multiple loopup tables, one of which is a
"multiple" lookup (used to decompose characters before applying the
replacements, especially decomposing i into the stem and the dot)
and another one is an "alternate" lookup providing multiple character
variants.
So selecting one of the other alternates requires that a number is
passed, but passing the number enables the repetition in the multiple
lookup...

> 
> i can make that a 'context only' feature if needed

That would certainly solve the issue for me, but it might be nice to
provide a solution for context users too. Maybe the feature could be
adapted to only interpret the argument as a replication factor if the
"multiple" is the only lookup for the feature or if no other lookup
for the feature is an alternate lookup?

Best,
Marcel
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt inserts additional dots for Iosevka font

2021-09-11 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/11/2021 10:36 PM, Marcel Fabian Krüger via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

ConTeXt has some issues with the character variant features of the
Iosevka font available at
https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/releases/download/v10.1.1/super-ttc-iosevka-10.1.1.zip

E.g. the following document

 \definefontfeature
   [default:test]
   [default]
   [cv36=2,cv26=6]


What is the number supposed to indicate ? It is not an alternate, right?


 \definefont
   [SomeFont]
   [name:iosevka*default:test]
 \starttext
 \SomeFont
 I live in a dot-heavy world.
 \stoptext

has six dots instead of one dot over each "i". Tests with multiple other
font shapers and inspection of the font file confirmed that this is not
intentional behavior.

Could you take a look at that?
(Based on a luotfload bug report at
https://github.com/latex3/luaotfload/issues/202)
when a number is specified for a multiple and the is > 1 we repeat the 
last glyph ... this is a 'secret' feature that (already a while ago) we 
added when discussing / testing a experimental arabic font in 
combination with a paragraph optimizer ... normally users will say 'yes' 
and not give a number


i can make that a 'context only' feature if needed

Hans

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