Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 7-12-2011 22:27, Marco wrote:
There seems to be a bug in the new unit system for \unit{kbit}:
% bit
\unit{kilo bit} % kbit
\unit{kilobit} % kbit
\unit{kbit} % kB, shouldn't this be kbit?
Another thing:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected according to
the manual. But how to get 3.4·10⁻⁵ (either with \cot or
\times)?
indeed .. here's the fix
\unexpanded\def\digitspower#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{#1}}
\unexpanded\def\digitspowerplus#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}}
\unexpanded\def\digitspowerminus#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}}
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 2011-12-09 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected according to
the manual. But how to get 3.4·10⁻⁵ (either with \cot or
\times)?
indeed .. here's the fix
\unexpanded\def\digitspower#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{#1}}
\unexpanded\def\digitspowerplus#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{\digitsplus#1}}
\unexpanded\def\digitspowerminus#1%
{\times10\digits_raised{\digitsminus#1}}
Thanks for the quick fix. I assume it will be included in
the next beta.
One feature request: Could it be make configurable to
either insert a \times or a \cdot?
Marco Patzer
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 9-12-2011 20:41, Marco wrote: One feature request: Could it be make configurable to either insert a \times or a \cdot? is already possible - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 2011-12-09 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9-12-2011 20:41, Marco wrote: One feature request: Could it be make configurable to either insert a \times or a \cdot? is already possible How? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 9-12-2011 22:01, Marco wrote: On 2011-12-09 Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9-12-2011 20:41, Marco wrote: One feature request: Could it be make configurable to either insert a \times or a \cdot? is already possible How? http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/units-mkiv.pdf - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
I solved this = getting what I wanted by writing my own macro:
\define[3]\physicalquantitye{\hbox{#1 \times \unit{10^#2 #3}}}
% \physicalquantitye{number}{exponent}{unit} -- gives short form of unit
That makes sense to me and is working fine.
There are a few more like this on the wiki (units page), in case anyone finds
them useful.
On 7 Dec 2011, at 21:27, Marco wrote:
Another thing:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected according to
the manual. But how to get 3.4·10⁻⁵ (either with \cot or
\times)?
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 22:27, Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote:
There seems to be a bug in the new unit system for \unit{kbit}:
% bit
\unit{kilo bit} % kbit
\unit{kilobit} % kbit
\unit{kbit} % kB, shouldn't this be kbit?
kB is kilobyte, not kilobit, but kb is probably also valid?
Another thing:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected according to
the manual.
But the behaviour is wrong. (I just want to say that \cdot 10^{-5}
should not be just an option, but the default behaviour.)
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On 2011-12-07 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 22:27, Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote:
There seems to be a bug in the new unit system for \unit{kbit}:
% bit
\unit{kilo bit} % kbit
\unit{kilobit} % kbit
\unit{kbit} % kB, shouldn't this be kbit?
kB is kilobyte, not kilobit,
Exactly, \unit{kbit} should output kbit, instead of kB.
but kb is probably also valid?
I don't know, if kb is a valid shortcut for kilo bit. kB
outputs kB (kilo byte). I would vote for that kb outputs
kbit (kilo bit). But that \unit{kbit} yields kB is
definitely wrong.
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected
according to the manual.
But the behaviour is wrong.
I don't know if it's wrong. It's very non-intuitive, but I
think Hans had a reason not to include the \cdot 10.
(I just want to say that \cdot 10^{-5} should not be
just an option, but the default behaviour.)
+1
Regards
Marco Patzer
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 00:12, Marco wrote:
On 2011-12-07 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected
according to the manual.
But the behaviour is wrong.
I don't know if it's wrong.
But 5e3 would render 5^3 which is hopefully still 125.
It's very non-intuitive, but I
think Hans had a reason not to include the \cdot 10.
\cdot 10^{x} is pretty long and might be ugly. But writing out
exponent without the base is everything but the right approach. Even
writing out 5e3 is better than that.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible bug in \unit
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 00:12, Marco wrote:
On 2011-12-07 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
\unit{3.4e-5} yields to 3.4⁻⁵ that's expected
according to the manual.
But the behaviour is wrong.
I don't know if it's wrong.
But 5e3 would render 5^3 which is hopefully still 125.
It's very non-intuitive, but I
think Hans had a reason not to include the \cdot 10.
\cdot 10^{x} is pretty long and might be ugly. But writing out
exponent without the base is everything but the right approach. Even
writing out 5e3 is better than that.
Mojca
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I've seen many people writing 5e3 to mean 5·10³, but I've never seen
5e3 to mean 5³.
The writing 5e3 = 5·10³ is sometimes called the E-notation [1]. Even
though I would never write it like that myself, I vote that 5e3 will
render as 5·10³ (or with \times instead of \cdot).
Best regards, Mikael
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_notation#E_notation
PS One could ask, however, if this really belongs to a unit package.
In my world it does not, but I can understand if it is convenient to
have there.
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