Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
 (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
 
 \setupbodyfont[xits]
 \starttext
 The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.
 \stoptext
 
 I'm not sure if the other calligraphic letters are totally fine
 either, but this one caught my eye. I suppose it's a font issue. Any
 ideas?

Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?

Regards,
 Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Rogers, Michael K

On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
 Hi,

 I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
 (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
 ...

 Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?

 Regards,
 Khaled

On this input:

\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
\stoptext

I got similar to what Janne described.  See attached (beta ver. 2012.05.29 
00:12).  Looks like the kerning might be a little off?

Michael



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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
  (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
  ...
 
  Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
 
  Regards,
  Khaled
 
 On this input:
 
 \setupbodyfont[xits]
 \starttext
 The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
 The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
 \stoptext
 
 I got similar to what Janne described.  See attached (beta ver.
 2012.05.29 00:12).  Looks like the kerning might be a little off?

Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.

Regards,
 Khaled


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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Andy Thomas
Hello,

it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the 
context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not 
12). 

Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from 
/Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to 
~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But 
that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I 
also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that 
help finding the bug. 

Andy

P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)?



On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote:

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
 
 On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
 
 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
 (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
 ...
 
 Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?
 
 Regards,
 Khaled
 
 On this input:
 
 \setupbodyfont[xits]
 \starttext
 The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
 The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
 \stoptext
 
 I got similar to what Janne described.  See attached (beta ver.
 2012.05.29 00:12).  Looks like the kerning might be a little off?
 
 Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.
 
 Regards,
 Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Rogers, Michael K
I'm using a Mac, too, with OSX 10.6, if that helps.

On May 29, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Andy Thomas wrote:

 Hello,

 it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the 
 context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not 
 12).

 Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from 
 /Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to 
 ~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But 
 that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I 
 also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that 
 help finding the bug.

 Andy

 P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)?



 On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote:

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +, Rogers, Michael K wrote:

 On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
 Hi,

 I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
 (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
 ...

 Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF?

 Regards,
 Khaled

 On this input:

 \setupbodyfont[xits]
 \starttext
 The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par
 The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this.
 \stoptext

 I got similar to what Janne described.  See attached (beta ver.
 2012.05.29 00:12).  Looks like the kerning might be a little off?

 Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals.

 Regards,
 Khaled
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Janne Junnila
Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The
PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other
calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them
have similar issues, just not as striking as with P.

- Janne
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Re: [NTG-context] Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS

2012-05-29 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:47PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote:
 Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The
 PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other
 calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them
 have similar issues, just not as striking as with P.

It was a bit buzzling, but I think I found it, it seems the lines:

italics = {
[xits-math] = italics,
},

in xits-math.lfg (`mtxrun --find-file` to locate it), prevents the
application of italic correction for some reason, removing it resolves
the issue. I didn't experience it because I had a different
xits-math.lfg in my ~/texmf tree.

Hans, what those lines are supposed to do?

Regards,
 Khaled
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