Re: [NTG-context] midi

[juh]

Am Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 10:15:59PM -0500 schrieb Fabrice L:
> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site
> https://art-aleatoire.com  is to show my work, and
> all you can see there is made by me using 100% MetaFun, with sometimes the
> help of you and the list, and all the time the help of your wonderful MetaFun
> manual. I’m often so much impressed by what could be done with a couples of
> lines of MetaFun code; life is made from DNA, art (perhaps illustrations would
> be a better world) could be made by the MetaFun « randomized » function.

I really like your work. It does not look like computer art, really cool. 

Would you mind to share some code? 


Ciao!
juh


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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 04.02.2021 um 15:55 schrieb Mojca Miklavec 
> :
> 
> I kept misusing Lilypond for generating the MIDIs, and either Timidity (and 
> something else that I forgot the name of, even though I think I packaged it 
> for MacPorts)

fluidsynth, I guess.

> Lilypond was a good-enough approximation / similar user experience as what 
> ConTeXt provides for typesetting text, which is why I never requested support 
> for music in ConTeXt. A good support for
> \startlily
> c d e f
> \stoplily
> and passing the work to lilypond should be more than enough (I have an 
> impression that I've already seen some code doing exactly that).

see https://wiki.contextgarden.net/LilyPond

That’s what I’m using for my songbooklets.
I don’t create MIDI this way, even if it would be easy, because I keep pure 
LilyPond files that include MIDI setup – if I copy or compose a song, it’s much 
easier and faster to work in Frescobaldi and compile only LilyPond. If it’s 
complete, I copy the melody into a ConTeXt component – not a perfekt workflow.

> I always used full-page scores, so I didn't really need support for short 
> snippets either.

Since LilyPond can create single-system PDFs, I leave page breaking to ConTeXt.

> Anyway, reading midi is probably straightforward, but it really sounds like a 
> too limited feature unless one could use video/audio output or music 
> typesetting (which is hard enough and outside of scope of ConTeXt, I would 
> say).

It usually makes no sense to typeset music directly from a MIDI file, there’s 
too much information missing (e.g. time, measures, repeats) or subject to 
individual interpretation.
There’s midi2ly.py included with LilyPond, but it usually makes more sense to 
re-type the music.

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/4/2021 3:55 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

I got stuck (read as: never took the time to finish it) at lighting up a 
led strip (with individually addressable colours, "neopixel"-like) at 


ah .. these nice led matrices ... i occasionally wonder how that would 
work out (but a bit too expensive for just some tests because one wants 
a decent resolution) .. would make a nice progress indicator


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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 19:40, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> >
> >> Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
> >
> > Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
>
> That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite
> tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is
> not in midi so that immediate abandons the project). Of course, when
> Mojca had ever push for 流TeX I'd given it a try. Too late now.
>

I kept misusing Lilypond for generating the MIDIs, and either Timidity (and
something else that I forgot the name of, even though I think I packaged it
for MacPorts) or Arduino + RPi (with some python-based synthesizer) to
play them from the toy wood-laser-cut accordion.

Lilypond was a good-enough approximation / similar user experience as what
ConTeXt provides for typesetting text, which is why I never
requested support for music in ConTeXt. A good support for
\startlily
c d e f
\stoplily
and passing the work to lilypond should be more than enough (I have an
impression that I've already seen some code doing exactly that).
I always used full-page scores, so I didn't really need support for short
snippets either.

I got stuck (read as: never took the time to finish it) at lighting up a
led strip (with individually addressable colours, "neopixel"-like) at
predefined places on a musical instrument to aid learning how to play new
songs. (Someone who knows how to play could record a midi, then the
"student" would load the midi at reduced speed and hit the keys that have
been litten up.)

I'm not saying that ConTeXt wouldn't be helpful in the process, but you
would then ideally need some new backends for producing movies: video &
audio output ;)
I could surely use a metapost-drawn image of the instrument and fill the
keys that need to be pressed in the video output ;)

Anyway, reading midi is probably straightforward, but it really sounds like
a too limited feature unless one could use video/audio output or music
typesetting (which is hard enough and outside of scope of ConTeXt, I would
say).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Fabrice L]

> Le 4 févr. 2021 à 08:31, Henning Hraban Ramm  a écrit :
> 
>> Am 04.02.2021 um 04:15 schrieb Fabrice L :
>> 
>> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site 
>> https://art-aleatoire.com is to show my work,
> 
> Wow, this is great!

Thanks so much ! And also thanks to all the other very positive comments I had 
! All welcome ! ;-) 
> 
> I think I’ll come back to you about using some of your works as illustrations 
> for our (Dreiviertelhaus’) German literature magazine.

I will be happy to contribute an illustration to the magazine ! 
> 
> Anyway I’d like to fill many pages of the ConTeXt journal with them.
> 
> Hraban

Fabrice.

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Hans Åberg]

> On 3 Feb 2021, at 22:06, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 03.02.2021 um 19:39 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>> 
>> On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
 Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
 
 Hi,
 
 So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts, 
 now do we also need an interface to midi?
>>> Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
>> 
>> That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite 
>> tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is not in 
>> midi so that immediate abandons the project).
> 
> LilyPond supports microtones in MIDI via pitch bending; it’s not supported by 
> all MIDI players.

There is also a frequency data format [1], which is not yet in LilyPond, though 
Graham Breed has written code for it.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_tuning_standard


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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 04.02.2021 um 04:15 schrieb Fabrice L :
> 
> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site 
> https://art-aleatoire.com is to show my work,

Wow, this is great!

I think I’ll come back to you about using some of your works as illustrations 
for our (Dreiviertelhaus’) German literature magazine.

Anyway I’d like to fill many pages of the ConTeXt journal with them.

Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:16 AM Fabrice L  wrote:

>
> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site
> https://art-aleatoire.com is to show my work, and all you can see there
> is made by me using 100% MetaFun, with sometimes the help of you and the
> list, and all the time the help of your wonderful MetaFun manual. I’m often
> so much impressed by what could be done with a couples of lines of MetaFun
> code; life is made from DNA, art (perhaps illustrations would be a better
> world) could be made by the MetaFun « randomized » function.
>
> « art-aleatoire »  is french, and can be translated to «  random art ». So
> the function I use the most in MetaFun is « randomized » !
>
>

https://www.contextfreeart.org/index.html
So the next challenge is implementing CFDG with lpeg...
and then post  to gigapixels
https://artsandculture.google.com/project/gigapixels

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Marco Patzer]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 22:15:59 -0500
Fabrice L  wrote:

> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the
> site https://art-aleatoire.com  is to
> show my work, and all you can see there is made by me using 100%
> MetaFun

That is some impressive work! Well executed and very creative.

Thanks for posting that link.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Ivan Pešić]

>That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite
>tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is
>not in midi so that immediate abandons the project). Of course, when
>Mojca had ever push for 流TeX I'd given it a try. Too late now.
>
>Hans

Hans, it is possible to set up any scale through MIDI ;-)
I use that to emulate historical quarter-comma meantone keyboard tuning for
some 16th century harpsichord music from Byrd, for example...

Ivan

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> Hi,
>
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
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> > Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>
> Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
> Otherwise we have LilyPond.
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
>
> funny idea
>
> HR
>
>
>
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> On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> >
> >> Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
> >
> > Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
>
> That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite
> tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is
> not in midi so that immediate abandons the project). Of course, when
> Mojca had ever push for 流TeX I'd given it a try. Too late now.
>
> Hans
>
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> Hi,
>
> Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt /
> MetaFun. Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e
> images « react » to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages
> are used to make a 3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can
> give more details of the process.
>
> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
>
> Fabrice.
>
> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 12:09, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
>
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, Fabrice L wrote:

> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 19:41, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
> > 
> > On 2/3/2021 9:33 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> >> Wow, that's great :)
> > 
> > Whow indeed!
> 
> Thanks a lot for your nice words ! Hans, all your covers have been very 
> inspirational to me.. ! I use ConTeXt in my work day, and ConTeXt/Metafun to 
> do generative work in the night ! ;-) 
> 
> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site 
> https://art-aleatoire.com  is to show my work, 
> and all you can see there is made by me using 100% MetaFun, with sometimes 
> the help of you and the list, and all the time the help of your wonderful 
> MetaFun manual. I’m often so much impressed by what could be done with a 
> couples of lines of MetaFun code; life is made from DNA, art (perhaps 
> illustrations would be a better world) could be made by the MetaFun « 
> randomized » function.
> 
> « art-aleatoire »  is french, and can be translated to «  random art ». So 
> the function I use the most in MetaFun is « randomized » !

These are beautiful!

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Fabrice L]

> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 16:29, Henning Hraban Ramm  a écrit :
> 
> 
>> Am 03.02.2021 um 22:14 schrieb Fabrice L :
 
 https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
>>> 
>>> Great! Would you please write an article about that for our journal? Or 
>>> first present it at the ConTeXt meeting?
>> 
>> Thanks ! Yes, I can do and article with pleasure. Just give me more 
>> indications about the level (perhaps some examples) and length of the paper.
> 
> Well, the range of level and length of articles in our (ConTeXt group’s) 
> journal is quite big.
> 
> Many of the documentation files in the distribution started as meeting talks 
> and journal/proceedings articles.

OK. Maybe I could start with an article explaining the approach to do the 
video, highlighting problems and solutions, and then we can discuss on this ?

> 
>> I would be delighted and honoured to present at a ConTeXt meeting, but they 
>> are usually in Europe and I’m in Canada, so this could be really 
>> challenging. 
> 
> I understand. This fall we’ll meet in Belgium again, and in 2022 in Germany.
> (I couldn’t afford joining a meeting overseas myself.)
> Maybe we could include you remotely? Last time we had “online” talks by Taco 
> – personally is better.

Why not ? ;-)
> 
> Hraban

Thanks for all these propositions. 
Fabrice.

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Fabrice L]

Le 3 févr. 2021 à 19:41, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
> 
> On 2/3/2021 9:33 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
>> Wow, that's great :)
> 
> Whow indeed!

Thanks a lot for your nice words ! Hans, all your covers have been very 
inspirational to me.. ! I use ConTeXt in my work day, and ConTeXt/Metafun to do 
generative work in the night ! ;-) 

I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site 
https://art-aleatoire.com  is to show my work, and 
all you can see there is made by me using 100% MetaFun, with sometimes the help 
of you and the list, and all the time the help of your wonderful MetaFun 
manual. I’m often so much impressed by what could be done with a couples of 
lines of MetaFun code; life is made from DNA, art (perhaps illustrations would 
be a better world) could be made by the MetaFun « randomized » function.

« art-aleatoire »  is french, and can be translated to «  random art ». So the 
function I use the most in MetaFun is « randomized » !

> 
>> Would be nice to have it in the Garden so newcomers see what ConTeXt is able 
>> to do.
> 
> Yes, we should definitely collect links there.

I will be glad to contribute to the wiki in any way people think would be 
useful. 

> Hans
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/3/2021 9:33 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:

Wow, that's great :)


Whow indeed!

Would be nice to have it in the Garden so newcomers see what ConTeXt is 
able to do.


Yes, we should definitely collect links there.

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Jairo A. del Rio]

I've found this:

https://www.pjb.com.au/comp/lua/MIDI.html
https://github.com/PedroAlvesV/LuaMidi

Both of them are pure Lua modules. Considering how easy is to write
bindings for Lua code in ConTeXt, MIDI interfacing doesn't sound so
surreal, after all. I'd do it as I'm doing it for the maze module, but my
musical taste (a good deal of Korean pop music) makes me unable to perform
such a labor without guidance.

Jairo :)

El mié, 3 de feb. de 2021 a la(s) 12:09, Hans Hagen (j.ha...@xs4all.nl)
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 03.02.2021 um 22:14 schrieb Fabrice L :
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
>> 
>> Great! Would you please write an article about that for our journal? Or 
>> first present it at the ConTeXt meeting?
> 
> Thanks ! Yes, I can do and article with pleasure. Just give me more 
> indications about the level (perhaps some examples) and length of the paper.

Well, the range of level and length of articles in our (ConTeXt group’s) 
journal is quite big.

Many of the documentation files in the distribution started as meeting talks 
and journal/proceedings articles.

> I would be delighted and honoured to present at a ConTeXt meeting, but they 
> are usually in Europe and I’m in Canada, so this could be really challenging. 

I understand. This fall we’ll meet in Belgium again, and in 2022 in Germany.
(I couldn’t afford joining a meeting overseas myself.)
Maybe we could include you remotely? Last time we had “online” talks by Taco – 
personally is better.

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Fabrice L]

> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 15:50, Henning Hraban Ramm  a écrit :
> 
>> Am 03.02.2021 um 20:00 schrieb Fabrice L :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt / 
>> MetaFun. Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e 
>> images « react » to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages 
>> are used to make a 3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can 
>> give more details of the process.  
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
> 
> Great! Would you please write an article about that for our journal? Or first 
> present it at the ConTeXt meeting?

Thanks ! Yes, I can do and article with pleasure. Just give me more indications 
about the level (perhaps some examples) and length of the paper. I would be 
delighted and honoured to present at a ConTeXt meeting, but they are usually in 
Europe and I’m in Canada, so this could be really challenging. 

> Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 03.02.2021 um 19:39 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>>> Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts, now 
>>> do we also need an interface to midi?
>> Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
> 
> That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite tex/mp 
> extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is not in midi so 
> that immediate abandons the project).

LilyPond supports microtones in MIDI via pitch bending; it’s not supported by 
all MIDI players.

Maybe MOD (XM/IT) would fit better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_file


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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Jano Kula]

Hello,
Taco could present his countdown, which is impressive, too.
Jano


On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 21:33, Jairo A. del Rio 
wrote:

> Wow, that's great :)
> Would be nice to have it in the Garden so newcomers see what ConTeXt is
> able to do.
>
> Jairo
>
> El mié, 3 de feb. de 2021 a la(s) 14:00, Fabrice L (
> fabrice.al...@gmail.com) escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt /
>> MetaFun. Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e
>> images « react » to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages
>> are used to make a 3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can
>> give more details of the process.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
>>
>> Fabrice.
>>
>> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 12:09, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
>> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
>>
>> Hans
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 03.02.2021 um 20:00 schrieb Fabrice L :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt / MetaFun. 
> Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e images « 
> react » to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages are used 
> to make a 3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can give more 
> details of the process.  
> 
> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8

Great! Would you please write an article about that for our journal? Or first 
present it at the ConTeXt meeting?

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Jairo A. del Rio]

Wow, that's great :)
Would be nice to have it in the Garden so newcomers see what ConTeXt is
able to do.

Jairo

El mié, 3 de feb. de 2021 a la(s) 14:00, Fabrice L (fabrice.al...@gmail.com)
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt /
> MetaFun. Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e
> images « react » to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages
> are used to make a 3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can
> give more details of the process.
>
> https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8
>
> Fabrice.
>
> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 12:09, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts,
> now do we also need an interface to midi?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
>
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Fabrice L]

Hi,

Off topic (I hope this is ok), an animation made 100% with ConTeXt / MetaFun. 
Several elements in the 6 840 images are sync to the music (i.e images « react 
» to music - although imperfectly). Theses thousand of pages are used to make a 
3m49s animation. If somebody if ever interested I can give more details of the 
process.  

https://youtu.be/3x03g-eHFC8 

Fabrice.

> Le 3 févr. 2021 à 12:09, Hans Hagen  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts, now 
> do we also need an interface to midi?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/3/2021 7:09 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:



Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :

Hi,

So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts, now do 
we also need an interface to midi?


Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?


That is way too ambitious, maybe more like TeX (but in order to suite 
tex/mp extreme precision we would have to support microtones which is 
not in midi so that immediate abandons the project). Of course, when 
Mojca had ever push for 流TeX I'd given it a try. Too late now.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 03.02.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So, in context, we can do text, and we can do graphics, and also fonts, now 
> do we also need an interface to midi?

Are you thinking about Knuth’s ĩTeX?
Otherwise we have LilyPond.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIKEiKTVwgE

funny idea

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