Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-09-12 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 And what would be the opposite?

 For example \startquote ... \stopquote
 to something like {\MyQuote ... }

 AFAIK, there is no easy way to do this.

One can use \aftergroup trickery.

\def\MyQuote{\symbol[leftquote]\aftergroup\endMyQuote}
\def\endMyQuote{\symbol[rightquote]}

\starttext
{\MyQuote This is a test}

\mainlanguage[fr]
{\MyQuote This is a test}
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-15 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 13.08.2006 um 15:29 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 And what would be the opposite?

 For example \startquote ... \stopquote
 to something like {MyQuote ... }

 Steffen


\def\MyQuote#1{\startquote#1\stopquote}

\MyQuote{something to be quoted}


... should work OK, right?


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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-14 Thread Aditya Mahajan
 And what would be the opposite?

 For example \startquote ... \stopquote
 to something like {\MyQuote ... }

AFAIK, there is no easy way to do this.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-13 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 10.08.2006 um 22:47 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 You can always define your own startstop.

 \definestartstop[italic][before={\bgroup \it},after={\egroup}]

 and then do

 \startitalic
   This is italic
 \stopitalic

 When a command takes an optional agrument, you can do use something  
 like
 this

 \def\startfootnote%
 {\unskip\dosingleempty\dostartfootnote}

 \def\dostartfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote%
{\footnote[#1]{#2}}


And what would be the opposite?

For example \startquote ... \stopquote
to something like {MyQuote ... }

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in  
 formatting:

 begin heading ... end heading 
 begin footnote ... end footnote 
 begin italic ... end italic

 But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax }. That  
 makes reading the code not easier.

 Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the  
 examples above),
 so that finding a } in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what  
 it's about?

 But in such a way that the file still can be processed as a regular  
 ConTeXt file?
   
its' no problem to define most commands as start/stop, however keep in 
mind that some start/stop constructs (like tables) pick up pieces in 
order to store them

so, if some commands need start/stop variants ... just make me a list 
and we'll see what we can do about it

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 Hi,

 in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in
 formatting:

 begin heading ... end heading 
 begin footnote ... end footnote 
 begin italic ... end italic

 But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax }. That
 makes reading the code not easier.


You can always define your own startstop.

\definestartstop[italic][before={\bgroup \it},after={\egroup}]

and then do

\startitalic
  This is italic
\stopitalic

When a command takes an optional agrument, you can do use something like 
this

\def\startfootnote%
{\unskip\dosingleempty\dostartfootnote}

\def\dostartfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote%
   {\footnote[#1]{#2}}


You can make such definitions of all your frequently used environments 
(or, if you prefer, write in XML and let ConTeXt handle XML).

 Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the
 examples above),
 so that finding a } in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what
 it's about?

There are \bgroup...\egroup which is same as {...} for all practical 
purposes.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] the closing bracket (structuring syntax)

2006-08-10 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Thank you.

\footnote
\index
\chapter\section ...
\it \bf \sc \mr \cap
\language[...]

That would be quite a good start.

Steffen




Am 10.08.2006 um 22:44 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 in XML and alike there is a concept of dedicated start/stop in
 formatting:

 begin heading ... end heading 
 begin footnote ... end footnote 
 begin italic ... end italic

 But in ConTeXt/TeX we have always the same closing syntax }. That
 makes reading the code not easier.

 Is there a workaround to define the closing more precisely (like the
 examples above),
 so that finding a } in a ConTeXt source lets me distinguish what
 it's about?

 But in such a way that the file still can be processed as a regular
 ConTeXt file?

 its' no problem to define most commands as start/stop, however keep in
 mind that some start/stop constructs (like tables) pick up pieces in
 order to store them

 so, if some commands need start/stop variants ... just make me a list
 and we'll see what we can do about it

 Hans


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