[NTG-context] Re: Table problem
Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Willi, However I get very strange results in the last column (p-column) my table/.../ knowledge is very limited, but why don't you just specify p(8cm) there? Don't know what you need but that looks right to me. (Yesterdays ConTeXt version.) Patrick ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: why btex...etex or textext() does not work?
Vit Zyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Vit, I am new member in the list so apologize if I ask for something trivial. But I have been looking in documentation, in ConTeXt source code, in the Net... Unsuccessfully. Perhaps someone here will known. I bet you don't have \protectbufferstrue enabled in cont-sys.tex. Please double check and enable this option if disabled. Don't know where or if this is documented. Patrick ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:14:45 +0100 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I uploaded a new version (stable and beta are now the same). This version inclused a few patches/extensions discussed recently. There is quite some new support for side floats, column sets have become rather stable (a manual will follow soon). Although a lot of functionality is still 'my little secret' to be revealed when users request it, you can ready find some info in www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals.details.pdf Boooh, great! I also updated www.pragma-ade.com/show-fil.pdf (made nicer, watch the new image archive), hmm, i still get the old show-fil.pdf when i download it. The mill.png in the cont-img.zip is broken. Gimp tells me that this is due ascii conversion. I've used unzip with different options, but always the same error. Next in my list of manuals is finishing the correspondence manual (letters and envelops and alike), looking forward to it Happy reading and contexing, will do. Many thanks. Regards, Jens ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Displayed material, again
Hello list,
I wish to bring the discussion again on displayed material.
Display material is material that conceptually belongs to a
paragraphs but typographically breaks it. After the display, the
paragraph can continue or not. In ConTeXt, there are many things
which should be considered displayed material: formulas,
enumerations and other itemgroups, quotations, etc. Every
start/stop pair that begins a new paragraph should actually be a
displayed area. In ConTeXt, one can achieve such result by using
[intentnext=yes] or [indentnext=no] on a case-by-case basis,
depending on whether the start/stop pair is supposed to start a
new paragraph or not. Of course, this manual way to do the thing
goes against the general principle that the computer is supposed
to do as much of the job as possible, by itself. I therefore wish
to urge Hans to implement a new indentnext option, auto, which
should give a behaviour similar to the one shown on this example:
=== BEGIN displayed.tex ===
\setupindenting[medium]
\definestartstop[display][before=\initdisplay,after=\terminatedisplay,style=italic]
\def\initdisplay{\ifvmode\else\endgraf\noindent\fi
\bgroup\advance\leftskip2\parindent\advance\rightskip2\parindent\ignorespaces}
\def\terminatedisplay{\par\egroup\afterassignment\checkifpar\let\ispar=}
\def\checkifpar{\ifx\ispar\par\else\noindent\expandafter\ispar\fi}
\starttext
The purpouse of this document is to practically show how display
material should behave: display material is material that
conceptually belongs to a paragraphs but typographically breaks it
After the display, the paragraph can continue or not.
We now quote Knuth:
\startdisplay
\input knuth
\stopdisplay
and continue the paragraph right after. The following quote will
instead end the paragraph:
\startdisplay
\input tufte
\stopdisplay
This text belongs to a different paragraph: note that it's being
indented (differently from the previous snippet). This paragraph
has no quotations. Instead, the next paragraph will start with
a quotation (display material at the beginning of the paragraph)
and have some text after~it.
\startdisplay
\input knuth
\stopdisplay
is again a quote from Knuth. Observe that this way the source
obeys the \TeX\ convention of empy lines to terminate paragraphs,
and that it is not necessary to manually specify the intentnext
option for the single cases.
\stoptext
=== END displayed.tex ===
The paragraph-wise behaviour of \initdisplay and
\terminatedisplay+\checkifpar (i.e. excluding the left-/rightskip
adaptments, which have only a visual purpouse) should be the
behaviour in case indentnext=auto.
--
Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta
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Re: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 05:25 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello list, I wish to bring the discussion again on displayed material. Display material is material that conceptually belongs to a paragraphs but typographically breaks it. After the display, the paragraph can continue or not. In ConTeXt, there are many things which should be considered displayed material: formulas, enumerations and other itemgroups, quotations, etc. Every start/stop pair that begins a new paragraph should actually be a displayed area. In ConTeXt, one can achieve such result by using [intentnext=yes] or [indentnext=no] on a case-by-case basis, depending on whether the start/stop pair is supposed to start a new paragraph or not. Of course, this manual way to do the thing goes against the general principle that the computer is supposed to do as much of the job as possible, by itself. I therefore wish to urge Hans to implement a new indentnext option, auto, which should give a behaviour similar to the one shown on this example: well it's on my todo list to provide this option, but first i need to finish a couple of grid things; actually live would be much easier if there wer \bpar \epar commands -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Table problem
Hello Patrick, specify p(8cm) there? Thanks for the tip. I realize, that after |r| or |l| you need the w if you want to specify a width of a column, but you should not use the w after |p| when specifying a width. What happend with my setup is, that the two coloumns with l and r where typeset as expected but the p column showed a frame according to the w(8cm) but the text was typeset in a narrow column centered within the frame of the column. To me this way of coding a table lacks logic. - However it works now. Willi ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
Hans, www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals.details.pdf www.pragma-ade.com/show-fil.pdf www.pragma-ade.com/show-man.pdf www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf Happy reading and contexing, It is just unbelieveable what you have made available. There is enough to watch and to read for many happy CONTeXT hours. Thanks! Willi ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] m-bib question
IIRC, isn't it the case that texexec should take care of the bibtex run needed for mbib? Am finding I need to run bibtex before texexec to get it to work... Bruce ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
At 03:22 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote: hmm, i still get the old show-fil.pdf when i download it. The mill.png in the cont-img.zip is broken. Gimp tells me that oeps, i mistakenly used a dos-unix conversion switch, i'll upload a new one asap Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p
At 05:01 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: Is it possible to obtain the source of xsteps-p. I suppose that you mean the style? I'm not goint to publish undocumented styles (also, i took a quick look into it and could redo it in 30% less code nowadays [one problem is that there is more code in ther ethan used in the styles, esp alternative style code] I like this layout, but it's difficult to realize the same. what aspect is giving you troubles, i can explain those Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 05:25 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:
to do as much of the job as possible, by itself. I therefore wish
to urge Hans to implement a new indentnext option, auto, which
should give a behaviour similar to the one shown on this example:
btw, here are shorter defs:
\def\startdisplay
{\relax\ifvmode\else\endgraf\noindent\fi\ignorespaces}
\def\stopdisplay
{\par\doifnextcharelse\par\donothing\noindent}
watch the \relax (prevents lookahead) and \doifnextcharelse
anyway,
isn't a \stopdisplay followed by an empty line still supposed to be a
display?, so the full model is:
\startparagraph
text or not
\startdisplay
\stopdisplay
text or not
\stopparagraph
the startparagraph and stopparagraph can be kind of automatic, but that's
just an added bonus for those who want to use empty lines as signals
(something which is not common, for instance in xml where proper tagging
takes place).
Hans
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