Re: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi,

 The normal double column mechanism tries to place a graphic, stores it when
 there is no place, and flushes it as soon as possible.

 The \startcolumns mechanism works well intermixed with the standard one
 column mode.

 In your case, esp for vertical chinese, use columnsets:

 \startcolumnset

 \placefigure[tblr:1]{}{}
 \placefigure[tblr:2]{}{}

 \input tufte

 \stopcolumnset

 This will place the floats on top of the first and second column; an
 alternative usage is:

 \placefigure[tblr]{}{}
 \placefigure[tbrl]{}{}

 Think of tb meaning flush from top to bottom, and lr to mean from left to
 right; so, there are quite some ways to place/flush a graphic.
Thanks. It place the figures side by side correctly. But, there is another 
problem.
After the two figures, it force a page break and leave a large blank even 
though
the blank area can accommodate the next paragraph. I attached the test file
and waht I really want is:

One column texts
two figures sidebyside
One column texts
Well, here you run into the difference between columns and columnsets. 
Columnsets can be mixed with one column mode, but you need to balance 
(automatic balancing is pretty hard for complex columnsets, so this is not 
yet in the kernel, but manual balancing is (one can set the number of lines 
per column). However, it seems that you want something:

\starttext

\startbuffer

\startcombination
  {\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]} {\placefloatcaption[figure]{x}}
  {\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]} {\placefloatcaption[figure]{y}}
\stopcombination
\stopbuffer

\placefigure{none}{\getbuffer}

\stoptext

This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some time ago 
for Karel W so you should buy him a beer.

When testing this i foun dout that there is an error in the macro. A few 
days ago i added the 'distance' key to caption setups, and (of course) i 
didn't test that with free floating captions (unresolved intermediate 
macro). So, in page-flt you need to replace the following bit of trivial 
code:

\def\dodosetfloatcaption[#1][#2]#3% to do namespace for number/ascii
  {\ifnofloatnumber   % also handle trialtypesetting
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   {\dofloatreference
\redofloatorder{#1}%
\doschrijfnaarlijst{#1}{\flhetnummer}{#3}{#1}%
\doglobal\convertargument#3\to\flasciititle % \asciititle is global
\doifsomething{#2}
  {\rawreference\s!flt{#2}{{\flhetnummer}{\flasciititle}}}%
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   {\preparethenumber{\??kj#1}\flhetnummer\preparednumber
\doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!letter\c!kleur
  {\doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!kopletter\c!kopkleur
 {\labeltexts{#1}{\preparednumber}}%
   \doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!tekstletter\c!tekstkleur
 {\dotfskip{\getvalue{\??kj#1\c!afstand}}#3}}}% 
THIS LINE WAS WRONG
\fi}

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Re: [NTG-context] Table problem

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 08:50 AM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Hans,

I need to make a set of tables, which are quite simple. I wanted to use the
\starttable..\stoptable environment.
However I get very strange results in the last column (p-column)

Please have a look at the test.tex file.

Do I something in a wrong way or is there something broken?
as patrick pointed out: use p(dimension)

\starttable[|rw(1cm)|lw(3cm)|p(8cm)|]

you had something wp(8cm) and the funny w spoils things (probably takes 
prev one)

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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib question

2003-03-11 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:35 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
 IIRC, isn't it the case that texexec should take care of the bibtex run
 needed for mbib?  Am finding I need to run bibtex before texexec to get
 it to work...

To my knowledge, m-bib is not yet integrated in texexec.

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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib question

2003-03-11 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 05:11 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
 How do I get (Author, Date: cited page)?  So, something like (Smith,
 1999: 23).



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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] bibtex
Date: Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 11:07
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I believe Idris S Hamid said this around Thu, 13 Feb 2003:
I have a more important question for now: Is there an argument to \cite for
subdivision references? In LaTeX we have, e.g, \cite[p.\~23]{key}. In m-

bib we

have \cite[key] but no way to include the `p.\~23'. What is the way users of
m-bib get around this? Is there any way to format subdivision references in
m-bib?

Actually, Eckhart Guthöhrlein came up with a suggestion a week or so ago
that does this. He had:

\def\citeplus[#1][#2][#3]{%
  {%
 \setupcite[#1][right={, #3)}]%
 \cite[#1][#2]%
  }%
}

I simplified it to something like:

\def\citepage[#1][#2]{%
  {%
 \setupcite[authoryears][right={, #2)}]%
 \cite[authoryears][#1]%
  }%
}

And it is used something like this:
\citepage[McAd:84][pp.~4--6]


Hope that gives enough of the flavor...

cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 05:15 PM 3/10/2003 -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Just been playing a bit with the magazine style.  First, about this:

% This style is used for producing explanationary documents.
% Don't misuse it for other purposes, since it may confuse
% users. Don't change the title either, since it provides a
% way to categorize documents.
Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to keep 
the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero Issue}?  In 
any case, this is confusing (at least to me)...
no, i mean the main title (* Way) shoul dremain unchanged.

Also, IIRC, shouldn't the grey border surround the entire page, and extend 
to the edge?  I am getting a thinner border in the shape of an L, with 
white space at the page edge.
works ok here, puzzled

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: lowerleftdoubleninequote

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 11:53 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 What ist the correlation between 'punctuation', 'alpha' and 'def'

???

 hanging punctuation is the traditional simple model of - , ; : . and !
 hanging into the margin; pdftex goes beyond that and let's you hang any
 char into the margin, so this is why we speak of character protruding;

 fonthandling in context is currently used for hanging things but can be
 used for anything font related; the alpha, def etc setups are more or
less
 derived from my personal prferences, thanh's thesis etc What you use all
 depends on your taste
I have understand this, but I am still looking for docus to the
'fonthandler'-commands, becaus I don't
understand how this mechanism works.
The  reason, why I am interesting in fonthandlers, was: To correct the
lowerleftdoubleninequote-problem with cmr.
To be honest, I am asking myself why this is not working out of the box,
because cmr is TeX's standardfont.
in that case: grep the base path for guillemots since these are implemented 
by means of fonthandlers in the aer fonts; with regards to quotes, it may 
make sense to switch from cmr to aer; also, there is the latin modern 
coming, which will bring you all the quotes and chars you need [the latin 
modern family is officially launched at the next dante meeting]

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Table problem

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 07:38 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:

To me this way of coding a table lacks logic. - However it works now.
this is the original TaBlE's way of doing things

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Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 03:22 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:

www.pragma-ade.com/show-fil.pdf

 (made nicer, watch the new image archive),
this one is now really there

The mill.png in the cont-img.zip is broken. Gimp tells me that
i zipped and uploaded everything again

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Re: [NTG-context] m-bib question

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:15 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:35 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
 IIRC, isn't it the case that texexec should take care of the bibtex run
 needed for mbib?  Am finding I need to run bibtex before texexec to get
 it to work...
To my knowledge, m-bib is not yet integrated in texexec.
you can do that in your tex doc with a call like:

  \installprogram{bibsomething \jobname}

I don't use bin things so i leave the right call to experts -)

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Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files

2003-03-11 Thread Hans van der Meer
Hi Hans,

On zondag, maa 9, 2003, at 23:14 Europe/Amsterdam, Hans Hagen wrote:

Next in my list of manuals is finishing the correspondence manual 
(letters and envelops and alike), the pstopdf manual, and a few more.
That is nice. From time to time I like to scan sites like pragma for 
updates I think I need. However the manual items do not have version 
numbers or a version date such as the context beta download. The stuff 
is too large to download just for looking at its version inside. Is it 
a good suggestion to show version/date on the manual items too on the 
download page? I would appreciate.

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[NTG-context] Re: s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
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 Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to
 keep the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero
 Issue}?  In any case, this is confusing (at least to me)...

The user variant has the title My Way. No number.

 Also, IIRC, shouldn't the grey border surround the entire page, and
 extend to the edge?  I am getting a thinner border in the shape of an
 L, with white space at the page edge.

with the following document I get a simple magazine text:
==
\setupencoding[default=8r]
\usetypescript[tetex][\defaultencoding]
\usemodule[mag-01] 

\setvariables
  [magazine]
  [title={Nonsense in Typography},
   author=A.~U.~Thor,
   ]

\startbuffer[abstract] 
\input knuth
\stopbuffer

\starttext \setups [titlepage] \setups [title] 
\section{Preface}
\input knuth

\section{Useless}
\input tufte
\stoptext
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, March 10, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
HH However, it seems that you want something:

HH \starttext

HH \startbuffer

HH \startcombination
HH{\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]}
HH {\placefloatcaption[figure]{x}}
HH{\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]}
HH {\placefloatcaption[figure]{y}}
HH \stopcombination

HH \stopbuffer

HH \placefigure{none}{\getbuffer}

HH \stoptext

HH This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some time ago
HH for Karel W so you should buy him a beer.

Hey, I thought it was me who requested this feature? (I remember
needing it for side by side floating tables when it still wasn't
implemented ...)

BTW, AFAICS there is no way to make a reference (à la \infigure)
to a single element in a /combination/ ... can this be done?

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[NTG-context] \inframed in table

2003-03-11 Thread varheit
Hi,

maybe a very simple question:

In the following table the formatting of the framed elements is strange

- cut -
\starttext
\bTABLE
  \bTABLEhead
\bTR
  \bTH Keyboard Shortcut \eTH\bTH Description \eTH
\eTR
  \eTABLEhead
  \bTABLEbody
\bTR
  \bTD \inframed{:} + \inframed{q} + \inframed{Enter} \eTD\bTD Quit the
program \eTD
\eTR
  \eTABLEbody
\eTABLE
\stoptext

how can I make sure both framed texts stay on one line without
using \hbox. There is enough space in the cell so the line break 
should not occur at all.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 10:27 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:

HH This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some 
time ago
HH for Karel W so you should buy him a beer.

Hey, I thought it was me who requested this feature? (I remember
needing it for side by side floating tables when it still wasn't
implemented ...)
actually, that was the moment it was cleaned up and moved from the 
particular style to the core files; the reason for decoupling them was in a 
special kind of float where clicking on the caption brought up a big float 
in a widget (whichin turn was based on the widget based help system) -) 
[this is why in page-flt there is still the mapping to old names used in 
'uguide']

BTW, AFAICS there is no way to make a reference (à la \infigure)
to a single element in a /combination/ ... can this be done?
there is a trick for that, but i cannot find it right now; however, the 
floatcaption command accepts a second optional arg being the ref.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 11:08 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Tuesday, March 11, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
HH btw, here are shorter defs:
HH \def\startdisplay
HH{\relax\ifvmode\else\endgraf\noindent\fi\ignorespaces}
HH \def\stopdisplay
HH{\par\doifnextcharelse\par\donothing\noindent}
HH watch the \relax (prevents lookahead) and \doifnextcharelse

Good to know, thanks. BTW, have you had a look at the patches I
submitted to the list around 10pm yesterday? What do you think of
them?
What patch? Yesterday around 10 i was deparately trying to figure out why 
our (linux) mail server was infected by a spammer (some kind of sendmail 
bug combined with pop3 things) and in the process (took me the whole 
morning) probably lost some mails.

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, March 11, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
BTW, AFAICS there is no way to make a reference (à la \infigure)
to a single element in a /combination/ ... can this be done?

HH there is a trick for that, but i cannot find it right now; however, the
HH floatcaption command accepts a second optional arg being the ref.

Yup, floatcaptions can do it all, nice. Now the question is: is it
normal for the combination to stick to the left margin? Shouldn't
it be centered horizontally? I can achieve the effect by
surrounding it with \midaligned{...} (i.e.
\midalgined{\startcombination ... \stopcombination}) but it would
be nice if it could be set as an option to combinations ...

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Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:00  AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to 
keep the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero 
Issue}?  In any case, this is confusing (at least to me)...
no, i mean the main title (* Way) shoul dremain unchanged.
OK, I understand that.  But I'm still unclear of the logic here.  I 
understand the style is used for producing explanationary documents, 
but surely not everyone wants to name such documents the same way,  and 
provides a way to categorize documents seems more applicable to 
Pragma than to outside users...

I'm not sure how (or if) I might want to use the style, but I could 
imagine student lab manuals maybe (?).  In any case, I appreciate your 
releasing it, as it's a good learning tool at the very least.

Bruce

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Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:00  AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Also, IIRC, shouldn't the grey border surround the entire page, and 
extend to the edge?  I am getting a thinner border in the shape of an 
L, with white space at the page edge.
works ok here, puzzled
On this, the only thing I changed was to use a different font, since 
palatino doesn't seem to work from ConTeXt in my new installation.

I know this was discussed previously, but don't remember the bottomline 
point.  Shouldn't these fonts that are included with teTeX and TeXLive 
just work in ConTeXt, without needing any intervention by the user?  If 
yes, whose responsibility is this?  Am using Gerben Wierda's OS X 
installer, but have a feeling this isn't his problem.  Or maybe it is?

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Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:11 AM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:00  AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to 
keep the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero 
Issue}?  In any case, this is confusing (at least to me)...
no, i mean the main title (* Way) shoul dremain unchanged.
OK, I understand that.  But I'm still unclear of the logic here.  I 
understand the style is used for producing explanationary documents, but 
surely not everyone wants to name such documents the same way,  and 
provides a way to categorize documents seems more applicable to Pragma 
than to outside users...
i have no time for that

I'm not sure how (or if) I might want to use the style, but I could 
imagine student lab manuals maybe (?).  In any case, I appreciate your 
releasing it, as it's a good learning tool at the very least.
sure, i only want to make sure that This Way is used for our stuff only; 
i have no problem with you using the style with a title other than *Way, 
like LabLog or so

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Re: [NTG-context] \inframed in table

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 11:47 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:

how can I make sure both framed texts stay on one line without
using \hbox. There is enough space in the cell so the line break
should not occur at all.
a typical tex problem, use \noindent or \dontleavehmode; th eproblem is 
that when a command (using grouping) starts a paragraph these side effects 
show up.

\bTD \dontleavehmode \inframed{:} + \inframed{q} + ...

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 01:26 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Yup, floatcaptions can do it all, nice. Now the question is: is it
normal for the combination to stick to the left margin? Shouldn't
hm, it probably is when you put some \maxdimen width content in it

it be centered horizontally? I can achieve the effect by
surrounding it with \midaligned{...} (i.e.
\midalgined{\startcombination ... \stopcombination}) but it would
be nice if it could be set as an option to combinations ...
Hey, since when don't you read source code any more?

\starttext

\showframe

\definieerplaats[mine][location=middle] % have to cook up a 
[english..italian] name for that one

\setupcombinations[align=left,location=top]

\placemine \bgroup \startcombination
  {\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=2cm]} {cow}
  {\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=1cm]} {cow}
\stopcombination \egroup
\stoptext

(this placement command also takes care of spacing, grid snapping and so, 
but should only be used in the mlv, not for instance inside floats; it's 
the same placement that is used in \startframedtext; you can define 
combinations btw)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01

2003-03-11 Thread Adam Lindsay
Bruce D'Arcus said this at Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:34:08 -0500:


On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:00  AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


 Also, IIRC, shouldn't the grey border surround the entire page, and 
 extend to the edge?  I am getting a thinner border in the shape of an 
 L, with white space at the page edge.

 works ok here, puzzled

Bruce, did you try opening the file in Acrobat? It's based on a very nice
2-page spread layout, and the page structure is immediately apparent once
you see it that way.

On this, the only thing I changed was to use a different font, since 
palatino doesn't seem to work from ConTeXt in my new installation.

One word: texfont.
It took me a while to figure out how to actually use it on my MacOSX
(TeXLive) install, but it works very nicely, once you figure out a couple
stumbling blocks. I actually wrote a My Way tutorial on it, but it ended
up being a bit too cranky. Hans took it more as a bug report, and said
he'd work on some of the issues I brought up.

So I'm not sure whether I should release it as-is, or if I should wait
for texfont to change.

I know this was discussed previously, but don't remember the bottomline 
point.  Shouldn't these fonts that are included with teTeX and TeXLive 
just work in ConTeXt, without needing any intervention by the user?  If 
yes, whose responsibility is this?  Am using Gerben Wierda's OS X 
installer, but have a feeling this isn't his problem.  Or maybe it is?

basically what I did was:
set teTeX = /usr/local/teTeX  # my tcsh setting of the root tex install

cd $teTeX# wherever you have your root tetex directory
sudo chgrp -R admin texmf-local  # make your texlocal directory
sudo chmod -R g+w texmf-local# group-writeable to facilititate changes

cd texmf/fonts   
# copy the fonts into the local font directory for munging the names
cp -R afm tfm type1 vf ../../texmf-local/fonts/
cd ../../texmf-local/fonts/afm
mv bit bitstrea   # correct a TeXLive 7 naming bug
gunzip -r *   # I think these are shipped as gzipped files
sudo texhash

cd  # or to a safe home directory where temp files can be created
# next command is all one line:
texfont $teTeX/texmf/context/data/type-tmf.dat --en=texnansi
 --fontroot=$teTeX/texmf-local --install --makepath


it'll make a bunch of font charts in the form of .tex files. To run these
(and use the palatino fonts in s-mag) you ought to have
\autoloadmapfiletrue in your cont-sys.tex file.

I *think* that'll get you started. Good luck...

adam


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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts again in ConTeXt

2003-03-11 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 09:46  AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Yes and no... ConTeXt is looking for fonts with names that are totally
unusual compared to the ordinary TeX (LaTeX) System. Most TeX systems
(and I guess GW TeX as well) support psnfss, the postscript font
system to be used with latex. That means, that you should have fonts
named in a cryptic way pplr8r.tfm or such. ConTeXt on the other hand
looks for fontnames like 8r-uplr8a.tfm. Almost no one has a font
named like this on their system.
This kind of thing is just silly.  The above named file is no more 
clearly named than the psnfss version, so what's the point?

Anyway, I vote for your first name option for the mapping file:  
\usetypescript[psnfss]

Make sure you send it to Gerben too, so he can get it in the installer 
sooner rather than later...

Bruce

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Hagen
At 12:47 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:

\def\synchronizeindentation
  {%
  \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!nee\noindentation
   \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!auto\noindent}
  }%

saves keying and also provides a hook

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[NTG-context] table and MPpositiongraphic

2003-03-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello, 

while browsing thru the source and trying some examples, I can't
sensible output of the following code. (No MP stuff is visible)

%output=pdf

\setupcolors[state=start]

\def\cw#1{\color[green]{#1}}

\def\TableShade#1#2%
  {\startMPpositiongraphic
 initialize_area(\MPpos{b:#1},\MPpos{e:#1}) ;
 show pxy;
 linear_shade(pxy,0,.4#2,.9#2) ;
 anchor_area(\MPanchor{b:#1}) ;
   \stopMPpositiongraphic}

\dosetpositionaction{b:x}{\TableShade{x}{red}}
\dosetpositionaction{b:y}{\TableShade{y}{green}}
\dosetpositionaction{b:z}{\TableShade{z}{blue}}

\starttext
\starttable[|c|c|c|]
\GFC[b:z] \cw{this is a small}  \NC   \cw{table}\NC in which we
  \NC \FR
\NC   \cw{will demonstrate} \GFC[c:y] \cw{that this}\GTC[c] 
\cw{positioning} \NC \MR
\GSC[a:x] \cw{mechanism also}   \GTC[b]   \cw{works quite well} \NC in tables  
  \NC \LR
\stoptable

\stoptext

Any ideas how to get the MPpositiongraphic working?

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[NTG-context] Learning ConTeXt: \setupitemize

2003-03-11 Thread Gary Pajer
I'm learning ConTeXt, and I've chosen to beat up on \setupitemize to see how
things work.
(If the answers to my question are in some doc somewhere, please tell me
where it is!)

Consider the file below.  I expected to see a hairline above the second
itemization, and indeed I do.  But if I remove the columns specifier, the
hairline does not appear.  Is this the correct behavior, or a bug?

Also:  what does the keyword beforehead do?  If I replace before with
beforehead in the example, I get nothing. Is it in the docs somewhere?

In the lists of keywords for many commands there are parameters listed that
I can't figure out.  Some of them seem to do nothing, but I always wonder if
they only operate in conjunction with some other feature, or I haven't
implemented them correctly.  Some of them do something, but I can't figure
out what the rule is.  Is there a doc somewhere describing the keywords?  Is
it in the manual and I've missed it?

Thanks,
Gary Pajer
ConTeXt 2003.3.9 / up-to-date MikTeX / Win98
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\setupitemize[1][n]
\setupitemize[2][a][before=\hairline]
%
\starttext
%
\startitemize
\item Level One
%
\startitemize
\item first
\item second
\item third
\stopitemize
%
\stopitemize
\stoptext


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RE: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p

2003-03-11 Thread Gregory Vanuxem
Yes,  I mean the style.

 In fact just how have the margin or edge ??? in black (with footer end
header),
 and the great title in (right and horizontal left).

Cheers.

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 At 05:01 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote:

 Is it possible to obtain the source of
 xsteps-p.

 I suppose that you mean the style? I'm not goint to publish undocumented
 styles (also, i took a quick look into it and could redo it in 30% less
 code nowadays [one problem is that there is more code in ther
 ethan used in
 the styles, esp alternative style code]

 I like this layout, but it's difficult to realize the same.

 what aspect is giving you troubles, i can explain those

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Re: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread Lei Wang
 Well, here you run into the difference between columns and columnsets. 
 Columnsets can be mixed with one column mode, but you need to balance 
 (automatic balancing is pretty hard for complex columnsets, so this is not 
 yet in the kernel, but manual balancing is (one can set the number of lines 
 per column). However, it seems that you want something:
 

Thanks, it works well as I wanted.

 This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some time ago 
 for Karel W so you should buy him a beer.

Which brand he like?  :)
 
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[NTG-context] Re: Learning ConTeXt: \setupitemize

2003-03-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Gary Pajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello Gary,

 (If the answers to my question are in some doc somewhere, please tell me
 where it is!)

The answers to your questions are in the context's source code ;-) 

 Consider the file below.  I expected to see a hairline above the second
 itemization, and indeed I do.  But if I remove the columns specifier, the
 hairline does not appear.  Is this the correct behavior, or a bug?

I'd consider this a bug. A while ago I had the same problem with after=...

[ But, when looking at the source, I wonder why the
  \complexdoitemgroupitem ignores \itemlevel\c!voor ]


 Also:  what does the keyword beforehead do?  If I replace before with
 beforehead in the example, I get nothing. Is it in the docs somewhere?

The beforehead has to do with the \head command also described in the
manual (cont-eni.pdf, cont-enp.pdf).

[...]
\setupitemize[1][][beforehead=\hairline,afterhead=\hairline]

\starttext
\startitemize
\head Level One

[...]

gives 

  --
* Level One
  --

It is not documented as far as I know. 

 In the lists of keywords for many commands there are parameters listed that
 I can't figure out.  Some of them seem to do nothing, but I always wonder if
 they only operate in conjunction with some other feature, or I haven't
 implemented them correctly.  

One never knows... I have the same problem here.

 Some of them do something, but I can't figure out what the rule
 is. Is there a doc somewhere describing the keywords? Is it in the
 manual and I've missed it?

No. There is documentation on special topics, such as tables or
flowchart module. But for the itemize there is afaik only the main
manual.


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: What DTD for a thesis

2003-03-11 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:12:17 +0100:

well, the x-contml.xds is in the distribution (but probably not 100% ok, 
since at the time of writing validators differed, and i have removed xml 
spy from my machine because it claims even txt and log suffixes as being xml)

I was discussing some things off-list with Bruce D'Arcus, and we both
agree: we can't find anything like an .xsd (or .xds) file anywhere in the
distribution.

If you have one that is less than 100% okay, we probably can help out
with the data model...

Cheers,
adam

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Re: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures

2003-03-11 Thread K.H. Wesseling
Dear Lei,

It's silly, all I did was ask a question. Then Hans starts working on 
answering it and takes care via you to send me beer. It's generosity 
to the limit. Don't. We all owe context to hans and to his able 
debuggers and enjoy using it. For me he has made typesetting 
documents easier and funnier and beautifullier too. Next time I visit 
Hasselt I'll bring him a reward. 

Karel W.


On 11 Mar 2003, at 14:48, Lei Wang wrote:

  Well, here you run into the difference between columns and
  columnsets. Columnsets can be mixed with one column mode, but you
  need to balance (automatic balancing is pretty hard for complex
  columnsets, so this is not yet in the kernel, but manual balancing
  is (one can set the number of lines per column). However, it seems
  that you want something:
  
 
 Thanks, it works well as I wanted.
 
  This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some
  time ago for Karel W so you should buy him a beer.
 
 Which brand he like?  :)
 
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