[NTG-context] Re: [OS X TeX] Context texfont disaster with i-Installer 2.15.0
Hi Gerben, strange. let's see if there is a mac user on the context list who knows why ... Hans On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 21:40 Europe/Amsterdam, Hans Hagen wrote: At 02:26 AM 3/20/2003 +0100, Gerben Wierda wrote: On Thursday, Mar 20, 2003, at 00:54 Europe/Amsterdam, Nigel King wrote: Gerben, It would be really nice to run the commands texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat texfont --encoding=8r --batch type-tmf.dat texfont --encoding=ec --batch type-tmf.dat As part of the installation if context is being enabled since this is rather an important precursor to use. when done, kpsewhich texnansi-uplr8a should report a path The commands above fail: [dumbledore:~/tmp] root# texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat TeXFont 1.6 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2002 trying to locate : type-tmf.dat processing aborted : unknown batch file --help : show some more info Any reason? The file is available: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/context/data/type-tmf.dat G Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] texexec feature request
At 09:45 AM 3/31/2003 +0200, you wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Hans, you can say as top line in your doc: % translate=... and texexec wil pick it up it would be nice if one could write this in texexec.ini :) dangerous, since it is a document property better is to find out why your tex does not has 8 bit by default Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] floats
At 03:00 PM 3/28/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello, I am having problems with defining my own textfloats. Would anyone be so kind and post a working example how one can change floats characteristics, e.g. width or height? Can you give an example of what you have in mind? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] puzzled
At 10:52 PM 3/30/2003 +0200, you wrote: I'm trying to put a right brace to the right of a framed box and thought I could do this: \starttext $\left. \framed[width=7cm,align=right,height=fit]{ something here \hairline \vphantom{something here} \hairline \vphantom{something here} } \right\} \text{entries for something}$ \stoptext but the brace is almost exactly twice as tall as the framed box. Looks like a side effect of those braces: they span 50% width +50% height, and the framed is height only, so: $\left. \vcenter{\framed [width=7cm,align=right,height=fit] {something here \hairline \hairline}} \right\} \text{entries for something}$ as you can see, the phantoms are not needed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: funny letters in (type)buffer
At 04:45 PM 3/30/2003 +0200, you wrote: Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Patrick :) (anwering my own post again...) gives me in test-test.tmp buffer: funny letters: ^^c4 ^^fc ^^df You can use texexec --translate=cp8bit test.tex to get it all right! I wonder if one can make it default somewhere? (Just came across this while reading the texexec user's guide in the MAPS 28 :) strange that this needed, i don't need it here (maybe unix specific) you can say as top line in your doc: % translate=... and texexec wil pick it up Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] funny letters in (type)buffer
At 09:20 PM 3/28/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Good evening, \enableregime [il1] \starttext \startbuffer funny letters: Ä ü ß \stopbuffer \typebuffer \stoptext gives me in test-test.tmp buffer: funny letters: ^^c4 ^^fc ^^df i get real letters; is your tex binary configures all right (for 8 bit writes) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation in \type{....}?
At 09:44 PM 3/28/2003 +0100, you wrote: Dear ConTeXt hackers, I am a bit confused: as stated in the manual, \type{...} does not hyphenate (in contrast to \typ{...}), but in the following example, it does: \enableregime [il1] \starttext ist zwar nur einem ist zwar nur einem \type{averylongword averylongword averylongword averylongword} \stoptext How do I get garanteed-non-hypenated-typing? put \ttsl\hyphenchar\font\minusone \tttf\hyphenchar\font\minusone in setupcommonverbatim i'll sort this out, it has o do with the way a space is defined (changing hyphenchar is a problem because it's global and we don't want to mess up with the font) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] textbackground again...
At 02:50 PM 3/27/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: why is frame=on and the offset ignored? (Why do I need ... enlarged in MPgrahic?) because setuptextbackgrounds only passes values, you can try to use OverlayOffset or so but 'm not sure if i added that; just collect your wishes and i'll see what i can/will honor Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] textbackgrounds
At 12:33 PM 3/27/2003 +0100, you wrote: Dear ConTeXt users, i have a question about textbackgrounds. Is there a) something like \setuptextbackground[all][frame=on,...] that sets frame=on for all the textbackgrounds out there? Or better: b) is there any way to inherit parameters? \definetextbackground[A][frame=off] \definetextbackground[B][A] so that B also has frame=off set? no, for the moment this is a pretty low level command; however (look in core-pos) you can set some MP variables if needed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: modules again
At 10:44 AM 3/26/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello Hans, is it right that the modules filenames are limited to 8+3 chars? So 12345678 t-cdcover.tex is not found but 12345678 t-cdcove.tex is? indeed, but you can map longerones (see cont-fil.tex) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Backgrounds
At 07:52 PM 3/24/2003 +0100, you wrote: Actually I did have a look at it (assuming you're talking about textbackgrounds), but I found their behaviour to be rather different from that of backgrounds even when location=paragraph. For example, setting frame=on doesn't give me a frame, and it doesn't seem to support rounded corners for neither the background nor the frame. Also, setting a largish offset covers the text that precedes the background, and this isn't nice at all. I think that textbackgrounds and backgrounds serve different purpouses. And what about the other requests? (Behaviour at splits, different corner styles) \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \definetextbackground[gb][state=start] \startuseMPgraphic{mpos:par:columnset} for i := 1 upto nofmultipars : fill multipars[i] enlarged 5pt cornered 5pt withcolor green ; draw multipars[i] enlarged 5pt cornered 5pt withcolor red ; endfor ; \stopuseMPgraphic \input tufte \blank \starttextbackground[gb] \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \par} \stoptextbackground \blank \input tufte \stoptext they split, can have corners, lay behind the text, ... only some spacing issues need to be solved (working on that on and off) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Re[3]: [NTG-context] Using MetaPost graphics in ConTeXt
At 10:07 PM 3/24/2003 -0500, Gary Pajer wrote: I've tried to resist, but I have to ask. Why not write a simple batch file that runs MetaPost *and* changes the extension? That's what I do. ... Are you processing several MP scripts in one file ?? Remembering that i did look into it long ago, i took a look in the core-fig file; now, if you really want this kind of support, open core-fig.tex and search for: % new, test first uncomment the doifnumberelse lines and you'll have the support needed (a new format needs to be generated) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Using MetaPost graphics in ConTeXt
At 08:16 PM 3/24/2003 +0100, you wrote: The macro \calculateexternalfigure seems to set the extension to empty if the figure file name is the same as the jobname: % redo message, only filename \doifparentfileelse\@@effilename [EMAIL PROTECTED]@EA{\jobsuffix}\figuretypes \let\@@efextension\empty \showmessage\m!figures9\@@effilename \donefalse} \donothing (core-fig.tex) Therefore it does not search for your nonstandard extension. the search for graphics is kind of fuzzy and dates from the time that we were still using dvi (different backends) - without suffix: try the best quality (depends on spec driver support) - with suffix: try that first, else locate alternative - same as parent file: try to avoid circular loading (keep in mind that tex code can be a graphic, i.e. buffers can be scaled) - all these are combined with a search over several paths, utilityfile, etc also, most of this is overloaded when using figure databases -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Q:Font ... not found
At 10:38 AM 3/25/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Monday 24 March 2003 21:45, you wrote: Ahhh, I found and installed cm-super. What a treat. in a couple of months there will be the non virtual much smaller type 1 latin modern (lmr) Will this be included with texlive 8? I can hardly wait... the font will be presented at the coming dante meeting and will probably end up in the next tex live (as it happens, there will a meeting there about distributions as well) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[3]: [NTG-context] Backgrounds
At 11:43 AM 3/25/2003 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Ok, I start to see the picture: one must use MetaPost. I can accept that :) (even if it's somewhat clumsier, but this is no problem, one can write interfaces for that). actually, it's handier once you get going; otherwise you would be limited to simple frames and backgrounds, simply because we would run out of keywords for options and/or forget to documen them; i expect to provide a library of backgrounds in due time The problem is still that I cannot separate the behaviour at the end of the background from the behaviour at a split. What I'm looking for is something like this: guess what, this time your demands for features are fulfilled on forehand! there is an array available multilocs[...] 1 = top 2 = mid 3 = bottom shape; this is how i could handle the example in details with different shades per kind of frame Can the first effect be achieved? as said, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[4]: [NTG-context] Backgrounds
At 03:36 PM 3/25/2003 +0100, you wrote: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: The problem is still that I cannot separate the behaviour at the end of the background from the behaviour at a split. What I'm looking for is something like this: HH guess what, this time your demands for features are fulfilled on forehand! HH there is an array available HHmultilocs[...] HH 1 = top HH 2 = mid HH 3 = bottom HH shape; this is how i could handle the example in details with different HH shades per kind of frame Almost perfect! Only a few things need refining: (1) top is also used when there is no split; it should be possible to detect the no-split situation (multilocs=0?) (hm, would not be upward compatible) 2 can be used for that Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] color band
At 08:31 AM 3/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: \defineoverlay[backgr][{\externalfigure[elements2.eps]}] \setupbackgrounds[page][leftedge][background=color, background=backgr, backgroundcolor=green] ,background={color,backgr}, - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: color band
At 06:14 PM 3/25/2003 +0100, you wrote: Idris S Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Idris, But what about overlays over color. They still don't work: There are two problems here. First, say background={color,backgr} with setupbackgrounds. But this won't help ;-) since the setupbackground is sometimes a bit strange (see below). I bet the leftedge is 0pt (test with showmakeup or my t-layout module, say \ShowModule[showmore=1]) so you won't be able to see anything colored. \setupbackgrounds[text][leftmargin][background={color,backgr}, backgroundcolor=green] When you use \setupbackgrounds[page]... you access the whole page (!). Not just any margin or textarea. So there you probably need some metapost hacking (easy) in order to get your green side. See the metafun manual or my page.pdf. it may help to know that there is a predefined path OverlayBox: \startuniqueMPgraphic{myback} fill OverlayBox withcolor red ; \stopuniqueMPgraphic or fill OverlayBox enlarged 2pt withcolor red (for a bleed) or fill OverlayBox leftenlarged 3pt ... setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox or StartPage ; ... StopPage ; if needed : setbounds currentpicture to Page ; also, you can say: \setuplayout[clipoffset=3pt] to get nicely clipped pages Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Q:Font ... not found
At 12:57 PM 3/23/2003 +0100, you wrote: Running `texexec --pdf Skript.tex` I get a couple of warnings like the one below Warning: pdfetex (file eccc1000): Font eccc1000 at 720 not found and the file uses some replacement fonts that look unbearably ugly. How can I fix this? looks like you're using some eccc* font, whichis unfamiliar to me; did you set up that font yourself? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Using MetaPost graphics in ConTeXt
At 11:27 AM 3/24/2003 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Monday, March 24, 2003 Johannes Hüsing wrote: I'm trying to use some MetaPost-generated graphics with ConTeXt, but I seem to be unable to do so. I have a file test.1 in the same directory as the ConTeXt source, which is as minimal as: \starttext \input tufte \placefigure[left] {Esempio di settore circolare} {\externalfigure[test.1]} JH \useexternalfigure[prova][test.1][width=450pt] % the last one is optional JH \externalfigure[prova] Doesn't work either. Fails with the same errors. Again, it works correctly by changing the extension. A possible reason for the error is that the name of the tex file is the same as the name of the figure file (test), because ConTeXt *does* check for this, and this is where it chooses not to handle the picture. Given that the same file works if the extension is mps, I can't understand why it refuses to do the job when the extension is different, and still different from .tex and .pdf or xml or the yet to be invented superior coding standard 'number one' with suffix 1 Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Backgrounds
At 03:37 PM 3/24/2003 +0100, you (GB) wrote: Hello, I would like to discuss a few points about backgrounds (\startbackground ... \stopbackground). Got you! Did you read details.pdf? It's all in there, you can hook in your own graphics, it works with columnsets, in graphics, tables, nests quite well, is layered, classes, and more. (\startbackground will be there for old times sake). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Q:Font ... not found
At 09:19 PM 3/23/2003 +0100, you wrote: Replying to my own post: From: Marko Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NTG-context] Q:Font ... not found Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:57:21 +0100 (CET) Running `texexec --pdf Skript.tex` I get a couple of warnings like the one below Warning: pdfetex (file eccc1000): Font eccc1000 at 720 not found and the file uses some replacement fonts that look unbearably ugly. How can I fix this? Ahhh, I found and installed cm-super. What a treat. in a couple of months there will be the non virtual much smaller type 1 latin modern (lmr) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt
At 07:05 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: Used for substituion, I guess. pdftex will include those then. I takes metrics from p* and includes u*. it may be more complicates, esp if there wre virtual fonts involved, in which case tex uses a file abc.tfm and pdftex (dvips) also uses a vf file def.vf ; it's for this reason that i let texfont use the same names prefixed with raw, so that at least i *know* what happens without the need to look into the tfm/vf files Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] table page breaking
At 10:47 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: ! Missing } inserted. inserted text } to be read again \halign \begintbl ... \rowTBL \tabskip \zeropoint \halign seem like you try to put something vertical into something horizontal, maybe adding \endgraf or \vbox'ing helps Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost/Fun question
At 09:59 PM 3/22/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello, I would like to know if it is possible in MetaPost (in particular MetaFun) to get all the possible intersection points of the paths, with some kind of simple command, with a syntax like, say: A[] := path1 intersections path2 (where the resulting list could be either a list of points or a list of time pairs, like for intersectiontimes). Another possible syntax could be path3 := path1 intersections path2 which would give a path for which times 0, 1, 2, 3, ... give the first, second, third, fourth, ... intersection point. Anything like this? not that i know, but assuming that those path have some distance, i can imagine dividing a path in parts and determining the intersectionpoints iof the pieces; delta := .25 ; for i=0 step delta upto length(p)-delta : if intersection_found(1,subpath(i,i+.1) of p) : store point fi ; endfor ; . Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] references and mis-ordering
At 09:19 PM 3/22/2003 +, you wrote: hi folks. I'm still in the process of debugging this (so details and a minimal example aren't ready yet), but I'm wondering if anyone knows of circumstances that would cause table and figure numbers to be out-of- order and swapped. For example, the numbers from my \placelistoftables run in this order: 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.7 8.5 8.9 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.10 *** you mean that there are duplicates? While \placelistoffigures gives 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.5 8.8 8.6 8.7 8.8 8.9 8.13 *** This is disturbing and hard to debug. The person whose thesis this is hm, sounds new to me, this random ordering I'm trying to avoid panic, but the doctoral thesis where we're running into this needs to be bound on thursday. :) do you run the latest version? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: latest Beta
At 08:25 AM 3/21/2003 +0800, you wrote: Sorry, cut and paste error (I added the comma on line 21). The underlying error is still there in that case i need a minimal file showing the problem Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Caption size of math
At 10:37 PM 3/20/2003 +0100, Mikael Persson wrote: Hello everybody! I use a ConTeXt beta that is a week old or so on teTeX. When I change the caption size to small with \setupcaptions[style=small] I get small text as I want, but the size of math in captions are at the normal size. How should I do to get even the math in the smaller font? \setupcaptions[style={\switchtobodyfont[small]}] this does a complete (and therefore slower) font change than the text only 'small' (which equals \tx); there is a also a shortcut defined with \definealternativestyle (font-inj), which means that style=smallbodyfont should also work ok Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] alternative setting of comments
At 09:35 AM 3/21/2003 +, you wrote: I was wondering if anyone who works with the verbatim environments has tried to set comments in a different style. It would be ideal to be able to set comments in \tf text font or some variant. I'm not really interested in colors at the moment. The immediate need is for working with a Pascal-like language, but I've been a bit baffled as to how to grab and process XML comments also (though I haven't look at that recently). \starttext \setuptyping[option=TEX] \starttyping test test %%\ N {\sl test} \stoptyping \stoptext So, %%\ triggers some kind of mode (see verb-ini.tex for details and examples) Another way is: \setuptyping[option=slanted] \starttyping test test test test \stoptyping There is yet another way but i just found out that it has a problem (seems that i never use it) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: latest Beta
At 10:24 AM 3/21/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Sorry, cut and paste error (I added the comma on line 21). The underlying error is still there in that case i need a minimal file showing the problem I am not Guy Worthington, but I had a (non successful) look at it and this is my testing file: == \setuphead[chapter] [alternative=command, command=\ContentsHead] \def\ContentsHead#1#2% {\framed [width=\hsize]{\doifelsenothing{#1}{a}{b}}} \starttext \chapter {Berend} \stoptext == Ah, this is beause \ContentsHead gets a truckload of rubish passed (add \showargument{#1} and you see what i mean) and this confuses tex when testing things (if..else in argument); even if i would solve this, other *user) code could mess up things; this is why we have (inside a head): \doifmodeelse{*sectionnumber} or alternatively: \doiftextelse for content testing (btw, sorry that i didn't yet answer your question about the numbering) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: setuphead(s), subject, alternative=inmargin
At 02:02 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: Probably Hans comes up with some magic, but this might work as well. there is the magical command \margintext I leave it to patrick to explore the following: \starttext \margintext{patrick} \margintext{who's that} \input tufte \margintext{patrick} \stackposdown \margintext{who's that} \input tufte \setupinmargin[2][line=2] \margintext{patrick} \margintext{who's that} \input tufte \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: setuphead(s), subject, alternative=inmargin
At 03:42 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Hans, I leave it to patrick to explore the following: \starttext \margintext{patrick} \margintext{that's me} Well, I was playing with this before (while looking for the answer for Mathias), but I did not get any margintext. Now I know that it works only when there is some text associated with it. I didn't get any margin macro to work in \MyHead (tried \inleft,..). But I didn't feel like looking for the reason (yet). you're lucky: a few days ago i added a key: margintext=yes to the setuphead command that will enable flushing of margin texts Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Latex Fonts as per adobekb.tex
At 10:43 AM 3/21/2003 +, Nigel King wrote: Patrick has lead me to the delights of Latex Fonts via his script adobekb.tex which works well for most of my existing documents. btw, these are not latex fonts, but fonts conforming to the berry 8 char naming scheme (plain, amstex etc also can use them) However, I have a small problem with graphs in metapost the following startup is used but the fonts for the scales do not come out. \startMPenvironment input metafun ; verbatimtex \usetypescriptfile[adobekb] \setupencoding [default=8r] \usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding] \usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[times] \starttext etex input graph init_numbers (textext($-$), textext($1$), textext(${\times}10$), textext(${}^-$), textext(${}^2$)); Fe_base := textext($10$) ; prologues:=2; use m-graph instead Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: setuphead(s), subject, alternative=inmargin
At 04:27 PM 3/21/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, you're lucky: a few days ago i added a key: margintext=yes to the setuphead command that will enable flushing of margin texts And how shoud it be used? \setuphead[...][margintext=yes,command=MyHead] \def\MyHead#1#2{\margintext{#1,#2}} is not the way to go, is it? no, it's just flushing previous ones; maybe the next solution will prevent a sleepless night: \starttext \setuphead [subsubsection] [alternative=text,distance=0pt,command=\MyHead] \def\MyHead#1#2{\inleftmargin{#1 #2}} \subsubsection{patrick} \input tufte \stoptext normally text will put the head in from of the text, so here we let the command lap it to the left; of course we need to nil the distance; so, actually it fits will into the normal configuration. so, if you cook up a nice keyword for this alternative, i will show you how easy it is added as alternative -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] reusing metapost graphics
At 03:26 PM 3/20/2003 +0900, you wrote: Hi: I'm designing a year's worth of English lessons for some Japanese kids, and I'm using Metapost and ConTeXt to generate flashcards for vocabulary training. I have a few questions: (1) I want to keep my Metapost figures defined in a ConTeXt environment file so that I can recall them as I need in future lessons. Is there anything wrong with this approach? sounds ok to me (2) How do I make a Metapost figure defined in a ConTeXt file reusable? Do I need to wrap the definition of the figure in a macro so that the figure is recreated everytime I need it? see patricks answer; in addition to that: external figures are reused by default \startreusableMPgraphic{abc} \stopreusableMPgraphic \placefigure{]{\reuseMPgraphic{abc}} will also be reused (3) With \useMPgraphic, is there any mechanism to scale the image as with \useexternalfigure? see patricks answer Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] table page breaking
At 08:59 PM 3/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: Is there support for automatic page breaking for long tables in current ConTeXt (ver: 2003.3.4)? Simon and I noticed that long tables don't break automatically to the next page but nstead are simply cut at the end of the 'first' page. tabulate will break table will break when asked for bTABLE will break when split=yes linetables will break horizontally and vertically Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Emacs color definitions for ConTeXt
At 01:55 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: Thanks to Hans and Giuseppe for your fast reply. For all emacs users I included a file, which contains the context color definitions of rgb.txt. Select the menu Edit-Text Properties-Display Colors and take a look. You may find it useful. after a bit of editing i added it to the distrubution as colo-ema so, \showcolor[ema] will bring up this nice (huge) list Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Correspondence Manual
At 10:46 AM 3/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: Hello Hans and all, I cannot find the Correspondence manual at the Pragma site (xcorresp.pdf, I think, should be the name). Are those macros not available or out of date? work in progress (the manual is half finished and laying on my desk for finishing) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] latest Beta
At 08:48 PM 3/20/2003 +0800, you wrote: color : system rgb is global activated check : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'textstyle' in line 21 (@@kocha pter) how about this error? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: table and MPpositiongraphic
At 09:19 AM 3/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: btw, the textbackground features work ok in tables as well, so in a way this kind of things are no longer needed, unless you want to span cells in complicated ways you mean with the \definepositionframed macro? right. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Floats in Columnsets
At 12:57 PM 3/19/2003 +0100, Michal Kvasnicka wrote: Dear Sir Hagen, I know you are writing the complete manual for the columnsets, nonetheless I dare to bother you in advance. What are options for telling floats to what column, line and page they should go? I hade some examples from you, but I lost it when my harddisc crashed. Can you help me? \placefloat[btrl]{caption}{figure} btlr == flush from bottom to top starting in the left column going to the right you can deduce the rest of the flushers from this; then there is 'here' fixd' as well as 'fxtb:2' for something in the second column as well as fxtb:2*3' for something in column 2 row 3 that's about it; spanning happens automatically (also over spreads if needed) (there are special commands for spreads and so) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes at the end of sentences
At 11:03 AM 3/19/2003 +, you wrote: Style gurus, I am sure there are some experts here. At the end of a sentence I think it is normal for a footnote to be after the full stop. When this is done the spacing to the next sentence is not very large, it certainly doesn't look very good to my eye. ... End of sentence with footnote.\footnote{This is the footnote.} The next sentence. What is the recognized way of sourcing this. \footnote{...}\ The Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: 8r vs. ec vs. texnansi
At 10:54 AM 3/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: I'm sure others can give better examples, and explain why the wordbreaking doesn't work correctly. Because of the \accent macro??? it's indeed this primitive or any kern/skip/penalty/box that stops the hyphenation process so, your patterns should match the encoding (some languages have multiple patterns, for instahce czech has patterns for il2 and ec, and context can load multiple patterns per language and switch accordingly) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Margin rules
At 07:19 AM 3/18/2003 +0300, you wrote: Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Hans Hagen wrote: HH Can you download the latest beta? It now has a module m-plus: Well, this module loads two files: plus-rul.tex, and plus-page.tex. The second file is absent. Is it correct? Indeed. Plus-pag is something real funny and has to do with arbitrary pagebody construction (some old code i found on my disk and i integrated it as a plug in into the otr a few days ago); i'm still not sure if i should post it. (actually, i have much more code laying around which some day will make it into context) By the way, I think that 'changelog' file in the distribution will be very helpful. Things are moving so fast in ConTeXt... I leave that to others, since i'm running out ot time -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Emacs color definitions for ConTeXt
At 09:05 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 01:55:54PM +0100, Peter Rolf wrote: For all emacs users I included a file, which contains the context color definitions of rgb.txt. Select the menu Edit-Text Properties-Display Colors and take a look. You may find it useful. Actually these are the color names of the X window system. It is nice to have them in context too. Actually they are defined, \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] % \setupcolor[xwi] % loads a color range \showcolor[xwi] \stoptext but ... i found out that i never added the colo-xwi file to the distribution, so here it is. I also adapted colo-run to show a specific set of colors. Hans simon.zip Description: Zip archive - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -
[NTG-context] Re: Font and index trouble (was Re: mathpple-a-like forConTeXt?)
At 09:50 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: [snip] By the way: In 3.1, it still seems that the space after \index{...} is eaten. Is this the way it should? yes, since the index should precede the word it refers to and not get decoupled (i.e. a page break in between); an \index command will even hook into the next paragraph if needed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] index term in term of a definition list
At 08:27 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: Does Context have something for stacks? In what way? There is \pushmacro \popmacro cum suis; also, when you're taling about xml, you can save xml constructs either or not encapsulated in elements with additional attributes but i suppose that you already located that code -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt beta installation issue
At 08:54 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: I would not like this. TEXMFLOCAL should survive through upgrades of the distribution, VARTEXMF should not. indeed; for similar reasons i have texmf-fonts (for commercial fonts) and texmf-project (for project we do for others) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: dashed horizontal line
At 10:21 AM 3/18/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Hans and others, [...] draw origin -- (\MPvar{length},0) dashed evenly % change this to what you want withpen pencircle scaled \MPvar{linewidth} withcolor \MPcolor{\MPvar{color}} ; the color does not work for me. \MPcolor{red} is OK and red alone is OK but not \MPcolor{\MPvar{...}}. \MPvar{color} Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \framed and \starttabulate
At 10:37 AM 3/19/2003 +0900, you wrote: Hi: I wanted to use \framed {\starttabulate ... \stoptabulate } but when I tried it, TeX complained about groupings and missing parentheses. Is there a way to make this work? I switched to \bTABLE, and that worked, but \starttabulate is more convenient sometimes. a \framed by default makes a so called hbox, and this conflicts with tabulate's halign; the resulting message comes deep down in tex and is one of the most confusing ones; it should be interpreted as: you are doing something complicated vertical in horizontal mode Solution: force \framed to be a vbox, by setting the width/height or setting the align key to some value \starttext % unreadable (watch how we nil the strut, try it with \showstruts) \framed[align=normal,strut=no] {\starttabulate \NC test \NC test \NC \NR \stoptabulate} % more convenient (kind of startframedtext, but more tuned to this kind of usage) \defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt] test \startframedcontent[mine] \starttabulate[|l|l|] \NC test \NC test \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stopframedcontent test \stoptext Also, compare this (spacing) with: \defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt,linecorrection=yes] test \startframedcontent[mine] \starttabulate[|l|l|] \NC test \NC test \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stopframedcontent test Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: layout of xsteps-p
At 06:55 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Gregory Vanuxem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Gregory and others, In fact just how have the margin or edge ??? in black (with footer end header), as a help I have uploaded a small tutorial on [page] backgrounds. See: http://levana.de/context/ I added this link to the others.htm page; Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost problem
At 11:19 PM 3/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: Maybe I made a mistake and deleted the real error messages. I am really sorry for that. Now I attach the whole log file here. Thank you for your patience. You can patch: SUPP-MPS.TEX:\newcount\MPobjectcounter SUPP-MPS.TEX: {\global\advance\MPobjectcounter\plusone SUPP-MPS.TEX: \setobject{MP}{\number\MPobjectcounter}\vbox SUPP-MPS.TEX: \setxvalue{#1}{\noexpand\getobject{MP}{\number\MPobjectcounter}}} (\count's instead of \counters) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bug in latest beta
At 01:10 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello, just got 2003.03.17 and found a small bug: the auto keyword is put among constants, while it should go among variables ... ok, made it a variable as well Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt beta installation issue
At 10:11 AM 3/17/2003 +0100, Gerben Wierda wrote: Probably it tries to do some guessing itself instead of relying on existing settings. What might influence this is that my setup separates the texmf part that is related to binaries (like pool files that change when binary versions change) and the stuff that is the fondation (like ConTeXt, LATeX, etc). /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf starts with: % Our directory setup as explained in $SELFAUTOPARENT/share/README.gwtex % TEXMFMAIN contains the TEXMF tree installed by make install of the programs TEXMFMAIN = $SELFAUTOPARENT/share/texmf % TEXMFTE contains the main TEXMF tree from teTeX TEXMFTE = $SELFAUTOPARENT/share/texmf.tetex % TEXMFGW contains GW specific defaults and additions TEXMFGW = $SELFAUTOPARENT/share/texmf.gwtex % TEXMFLOCAL contains any local system TeXadmin overrides TEXMFLOCAL = $SELFAUTOPARENT/share/texmf.local % $VARTEXMF is where texconfig writes its local settings VARTEXMF = $TEXMFLOCAL % User texmf trees can be catered for like this... HOMETEXMF = $HOME/Library/texmf % Our complete search path, the last three are searched through % ls-R exclusively, which means that you have to run texhash % after you have added, moved or deleted files in the tree TEXMF={$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFGW,!!$TEXMFTE,!!$TEXMFMAIN} In this case, there is a valid TeX setup, though uncommon because the separation of texmf into texmf and texmf.tetex. I need this separation to be able to update programs and foundation separately. A new foundation (texmf.tetex + texmf.gwtex) does not touch anything related to the binaries (like pool files) in texmf. here i also have split trees: # example setup file / hans hagen # # dos2unix setuptex # . setuptex # mktexlsr # texexec --make --alone TEXROOT=/usr/local/tex export TEXROOT PATH=$TEXROOT/texmf-linux/bin:$PATH export PATH TEXMFMAIN=$TEXROOT/texmf TEXMFLOCAL=$TEXROOT/texmf-local TEXMFFONTS=$TEXROOT/texmf-fonts TEXMFPROJECT=$TEXROOT/texmf-project TEXMFLINUX=$TEXROOT/texmf-linux VARTEXMF=$TEXROOT/texmf-var export TEXMFMAIN export TEXMFLOCAL export TEXMFPROJECT export TEXMFFONTS export TEXMFLINUX export VARTEXMF # the next lines fail on dec alpha os's, so there you need # to comment them (bug traced down by kees van marle/martin # corrino) HOMETEXMF= export HOMETEXMF TEXMFCNF=$TEXROOT/texmf{-local,}/web2c TEXMF='{$TEXMFLINUX,$TEXMFPROJECT,$TEXMFFONTS,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFMAIN}' TEXFORMATS=$TEXMFLINUX/web2c TEXPOOL=$TEXFORMATS MPPOOL=$TEXFORMATS export TEXMFCNF export TEXMF export TEXFORMATS export TEXPOOL export MPPOOL now, if you split off the bin tree, it makes sense to set TEXPOOL and MPPOOL explicitly; that way you can be sure that the binaries find them your way; the texmf files use these variables and copy them to the other relevant pool variables. [i installed tex on a mac here, and there i have TEXMFMACOSX as well] Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Formula numbering and counter
At 01:19 PM 3/17/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I would like to change the numbering of several formulae as follows: mathematical expression (1.1) mathematical expression (1.2a) % here is mathematical expression (1.2b) % the problem mathematical expression (1.3) \placeformula \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \placeformula{a}\startformula a = b + c \stopformula \placesubformula{b} \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \placeformula \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \placesubformula{a} \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \placesubformula{b} \startformula a = b + c \stopformula - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: Re[2]: [NTG-context] Re: layout of xsteps-p
At 12:05 AM 3/14/2003 +0100, you wrote: \setupsectionblock[after=\hskip 1cm] will probably fail since you're in vertical mode \def\fsection#1{\section{\bf #1}\hskip1cm\relax} hm, will fail as well, configuring \setuphead[section] is probably better Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] (no subject)
At 07:06 PM 3/13/2003 -0600, Coydell Rivers wrote: Someone please give me a heads upon the below \definieerpapierformaat [CONTEXT] [hoogte=27cm, breedte=36cm] \stelpapierformaatin [CONTEXT] [CONTEXT] This gives a document size of ( 14.17 x 6.3 in ) The 6.3in is the problem, it is not a full page What size do you want? If you are able to get a full page, please send me the test code... can you be s bit more specific (btw, are you running the dutch user intercface?) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Newspaper in ConTeXt?
At 01:07 AM 3/14/2003 +0100, you wrote: I seem to recall from various discussions that ConTeXt has some features that would come useful to typeset newspaper and similar stuff (columnsets being one of them, IIRC). Are there example of their usage, and possibly some kind of manual? I'm currently in the process of reimplementing the styles of the dutch math society journal; which has lots of graphics, 2/3 column layouts, works on spreads, has spread spanning stuff, two typeface collections, some 15 different categrories/styles, etc; this is also my test suite for the column set mechanism, and when i finished those styles (one to be done) i'll start documenting column sets ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt
At 09:31 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: the MAP-file is a nice place for the real font selection. I agree with that. (Did you mean it this way?) hm, i disagree -) unless you keep your map files with your specific styles / projects How should i tell normal users that their font-selection from the document is overwriten since some stupid and wrong decisions have been made in the past. That is easy: You don't have the real helvetica? Then your dvi processor (or pdfTeX) switches back to a substitution. This is the way every printer works, that don't have the Linotype fonts built in. but, subsitutions means ugly results, which means ugly docs, which gives tex a bad reputation 1) the user: he or she requests the typescript [times][..]. What does he want? URW? Or what? IMO I request Times-Roman, and not a substitue. This is a real tricky area, there are so many times out that if you are not specific and embed them (in graphics, docs, etc) you end up in troubles. We have a few thousand Corel Draw files, mae on a win95 machine long ago, and cannot even open them because the font names changed (distiller 2 accepted the eps, distiller 5 doesn't) The way with current ConTeXt it is now: I ask for Helvetica and get Nimbus Sans. There is no way around this. unless you map the names alternatively, which you will do for us; just prepare the lot and we can discuss it in bremen {if tex was less powerfull with math/fonts, live would be so much more easy] Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] module: t-layout now available
At 01:51 PM 3/14/2003 +0100, you wrote: Dear ConTeXt hackers, I have just uploaded a first version of my layout module. It displays the layout of the current page as well as some dimensions. Get it at http://levana.de/context/ Or directly at http://levana.de/context/layout/t-layout.tex An example pdf is at http://levana.de/context/layout/testlay.pdf Use it with \usemodule[layout] and show the layout with \layout I think it is best to name third party macros like \Layout, i.e. use capitals; or in this case (since you kind of reimplement context's \showlayout, call it \ShowLayout) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[4]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 06:04 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: HH \def\synchronizeindentation HH{% HH \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!nee\noindentation HH \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!auto\noindent} HH}% HH HH saves keying and also provides a hook Right :) I expect to see it in the core for the next release! ;) Ha, i found out that i already had a \checknextindentation in my cont-loc (for different purposes -) anyhow, i'll provide you the hook Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[3]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 12:47 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: === BEGIN PATCH === \startvariables all auto: auto \stopvariables ok, added, does not hurt to have that key (althougj in this case 'display' i smore adequate \def\@@stopdefinitie#1% \def\stopitemgroup \def\dostopformula \def\dostoptyping#1% simple test replaced by \(do)checknextindentation CORE-ITM.TEX: CORE-MAT.TEX: CORE-MIS.TEX: CORE-SEC.TEX: CORE-SPA.TEX: CORE-VER.TEX: PAGE-ONE.TEX: PAGE-SET.TEX: before that). Hans, can we hope for this to go into the core for the next beta? i'll upload a beta for you to test Note: while I think it should be done for quotations as well, this seems to be a feature in development so I won't touch it for now. added anyway also, auto invokes \autoindentation, so for the moment you have to hook you rown code in there (\relax by default) [later i will look into a proper display something; needs to work ok with the nex par hooks in cont-new] happy indenting Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[5]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 10:36 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, you wrote: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: Right :) I expect to see it in the core for the next release! ;) HH Ha, i found out that i already had a HH \checknextindentation in my cont-loc HH (for different purposes -) HH anyhow, i'll provide you the hook Even better, put the indentnext=auto code in the core :) don't hurry too much, if you define yourself a \autoindentation macro you'll have indentnext=auto Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt
At 09:54 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, you wrote: It is not a matter of having gs installed or not. Since TeX is just looking for the tfm files, you need them. But is there any TeX System with the tfm file for the urw variants besides TeXlive? TeTeX doesn't have 'em and teTeX is widely distributed. so we have to convince thomas/sebastian/fabrice/gerben to add them The pfb files from urw are shipped with TeXlive and TeTeX. what is the use of pfb's without the tfm's hm, but you can of course make a typescript: berry-adobe Then the mapping (internally) would be Helvetica - uhv... - phv I think that this is a useable workaround. or directly Helvetica - phv by an typescript that overloads OK. I'll do so. I guess I name it adobekb. ok - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt
At 10:07 AM 3/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2003 07:37 am, Hans Hagen wrote: (snip) Is it possible to take a deep breath and go back to the starting point, the TeX primitive \font? It allows one to name a specific font as listed in e.g. psfonts.map or some other designated mapping file. Control is absolute. You specify the font and if it is listed and installed you get it, in the size you specify. As a practical matter I seldom need a font in more than two sizes, and if I do then I can just dupe the \font statement, change the name and change the size parameter. Unfortunately Context has a much more elaborate, indirect and confusing (to me at least) mechanism embedded. Now, starting from this \font base, how do we add features without losing simplicity and basic control? Stated another way, how can one create \font statements and alias them into the Context font handling system without too much grief? \definefont[whatever][somename at somesize] \whatever [or slightly more extensive (see chinese, symbols etc, for adaptive definitions)] Fonts are the most troublesome aspect of TeX in all versions, from plain TeX on forward. The mission is not to add complexity, difficulty and confusion but to reduce them. We need a simpler way to install fonts and a simpler and more direct way to call for them. IMHO of course. If you stick to english, fonts are less a problem since you can stick to tex's default encoding or whatever is at hand; however, it happens that most of us use more extensive char sets, and that each language has its own patterns, encodings, alternative glyphs etc. Also, as soon as math shows up, one needs a consistent sub subsub system, so this adds to the complication. And then, users want to combine fonts from different verdors, so we get typefaces (in context) and relative scaling, and specific interlinespace, and ... and ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p
At 02:00 PM 3/13/2003 +0100, you wrote: Another thing, if i rebuild format for mptopdf (under MikTeX) pdftex complain about : loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (C:\MiKTeX\tex\context\base\supp-mpe.tex loading : MetaPost Special Extensions ! Undefined control sequence. l.536 \appendtoks some old supp-mis is messing things up Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01
At 03:02 PM 3/11/2003 +, you wrote: So I'm not sure whether I should release it as-is, or if I should wait for texfont to change. just release it and update it when i did the patch (which actually reminds me that i need to patch; sorry, too busy catching up with stabelizing some nasty features) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] table and MPpositiongraphic
Hi Patrick, while browsing thru the source and trying some examples, I can't sensible output of the following code. (No MP stuff is visible) right, this is because it's old crappy code; and so you got me in debugging mode again \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \def\cw#1{\color[white]{#1}} \startMPpositiongraphic{tableshade} initialize_area(\MPpos{\MPvar{from}},\MPpos{\MPvar{to}}) ; color c ; c := \MPvar{color} ; linear_shade(pxy,0,.4c,.9c) ; anchor_area(\MPanchor{\MPvar{from}}) ; \stopMPpositiongraphic \setMPpositiongraphic{b:x}{tableshade}{from=b:x,to=e:x,color=red} \setMPpositiongraphic{b:y}{tableshade}{from=b:y,to=e:y,color=green} \setMPpositiongraphic{b:z}{tableshade}{from=b:z,to=e:z,color=blue} \starttable[|c|c|c|] \GFC[b:z] \cw{this is a small} \NC \cw{table}\NC in which we \NC \FR \NC \cw{will demonstrate} \GFC[c:y] \cw{that this}\GTC[c] \cw{positioning} \NC \MR \GSC[a:x] \cw{mechanism also} \GTC[b] \cw{works quite well} \NC in tables\NC \LR \stoptable \stoptext so, \startMPpositiongraphic is now named and handles vars btw, i leave it to you to figure out the \XC alternative (which is a nicer way of coding) there are a few more places where this kind of old code shows up (which is one reason why it's in the comments and not in manuals); last week i fixed something in a presentation style -) This kind of code is now reaching a more stable state because it's quite extensively used in some of the projects that we're involved in (i can show you some of the coding in bremen if you're interested; this kind of things is needed to make dtp competing/beating styles and it's a slow process to make the mechanisms programmable and the code readable) btw, the textbackground features work ok in tables as well, so in a way this kind of things are no longer needed, unless you want to span cells in complicated ways Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Mac input encodings
At 11:06 AM 2/24/2003 +, you wrote: Hi all, Prompted by this weekend's discussion of input regimes, I took a look at the one for the Mac's Western encoding (initiated by Michel Bovani), and hopefully revised it to be nearly complete for characters (missing four in the range 128-255). Mac users might like to take a look at this file, and verify that it does what I suggest. Usage: put the attached regi-mac.tex in your path, and either rebuild your format files (i.e., texexec --make ...), or explicitly \input this file in your source. Add the line \enableregime[mac] to your source. Type søme tèxt with «aççents» ånd öther odd characters. I replaced the old regi-max by this one (minus the table) Does it work? dunno since i didn't put it on the mac yet (working on a pc now) -) concerning the rgime table: \starttext \def\showregime {\dosingleempty\doshowregime} \def\doshowregime[#1]% {\bgroup \iffirstargument\enableregime[#1]\fi \starttabulate[|l|l|l|] \dostepwiserecurse{128}{255}{1} {\expanded {\scantokens {\NC \recurselevel \NC \rawcharacter\recurselevel \NC \noexpand\tttf \noexpand\meaning \rawcharacter\recurselevel \NC \NR}}}% \stoptabulate \unskip \egroup} \showregime[mac] \stoptext I've added this macro to context (enco-run, i.e. a runtime macro) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Mac input encodings
At 04:30 PM 2/25/2003 +0300, Victor Figurnov wrote: I corrected Adam T. Lindsay's regi-mac.tex file (see the attachment). Also I changed input characters to their codes -- it seems to be more reliable. ok, patched, \showregime[mac] now looks pretty complete Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] typesetting chapter--label for cross references
At 04:25 PM 2/24/2003 +0800, you wrote: I'd like to display a cross reference, using a en-dash to separate the chapter number from the text being cross referenced. In the example below, if you look at label attached to the example caption A Sample XML file, you'll see that it is typeset as Example~1--1 however if you look at the cross reference to the example, it is typeset as Example~1.1 how do I change the period (.) separator in the cross reference to an en-dash separator (--). - \defineenumeration [example] [location=serried, text=Example, before=\blank, after=\blank, way=bychapter, style=italic, separator=--] \starttext \chapter{One} \in{Example}[ex:Simple-doc] has the chapter number separated from the example number by a period, and not an en-dash. \example[ex:Simple-doc] A Sample XML file \startXML ?xml version=1.0? ?xml-stylesheet href=simple-doc.xsl type=text/xsl? \stopXML \stoptext This is a mixture of a bug and feature. I'm not sure if the following patch is completely safe (so i'll have to test it for a while) \unprotect \def\preparethenumber#1#2#3% {\??id#1} \number \result {\doifelsevaluenothing{#1\c!scheider} {\let\numberseparator\empty \let#3#2} {\edef\numberseparator{\getvalue{#1\c!scheider}}% [EMAIL PROTECTED]@EA{#2 % hm, etex \protect the best way to handle sep's is \definesymbol[MySep][--] separator={\symbol[MySep]} Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: textext
At 11:19 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hans van der Meer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Hans Well, I am not Hans, but perhaps I might add a comment: I am placing metapost figures in the text: could you provide a small non-working example (that we can run thru TeX)? The following works fine here: % interface=en output=pdf \starttext \def\mycommand#1{% \startuseMPgraphic{somegraphic} drawdot origin; label.top(textext(#1, origin); \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{somegraphic}} \mycommand{Hello Hans} \stoptext \setMPtext{some tag}{some text} \startMPcode draw textext(\MPstring{some tag}) ; \stopMPcode For Patrick who reads sources: %D To be documented: %D %D \starttyping %D \setMPtext{identifier}{text} %D %D \MPtext {identifier} %D \MPstring{identifier} %D \MPbetex {identifier} %D \stoptyping - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] problem with tables
At 11:26 AM 3/12/2003 +0100, Martin Kolarík wrote: the problem occurs in the last beta too and it touches bTABLE. Both the next conditions must be fulfiled to get an error: 1. aligncharacter=yes,alignmentcharacter={,} in setup (I used \setupTABLE) 2. grouping inside cell which is touched by setting defined in 1. In the current release this works ok: \setupTABLE[c][1][aligncharacter=yes] \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 123,0 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 13,0 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 3,0 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[5]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures
At 03:00 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH hm, i now sometimes accept {bla,bla} things; That's a good thing, even if I wonder how you could distinguish between a vertical middle and a horizontal middle ... maybe we need values hcenter and vcenter? vertical middle is now: lohi (lowhigh) ]for instance in \framed and friends: align={lohi,middle} Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p
At 03:51 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: Output of MetaPost !!! This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (MiKTeX 2.2) (preloaded mem=metafun 2002.10.21) 12 MAR 2003 15:44 **mpgraph (mpgraph.mp {randomseed:=3638} ! This can't happen (copy). graphictextdirective-...phictextstring(EXPR2000) interesting, maybe your mem values don't match the format values or so; do other miktex users have a this problem as well? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Fonts again in ConTeXt
At 02:04 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: It is clearer: the first bit gives the encoding and the latter bit is the name of the file containign the glyphs (uplr8a.pfb). OTOH since LaTeX already creates a lot of font-mess, I do agree that there is no need to add more to the trouble already there. I would like to see a few sym-links (does Windows have something like that?) to add a few names to the tree to make sure everything works as planned. the tricky part is in slanted, extended and caps'd fonts, where there is no distinction between instances in psfnss, which is why context has more verbose names; also, most of the fonts we use here (in projects) are not free, not in the texmf tree, and i have no time (or spirit) to sort out how they should be reduced to 2+2+2+2 char names; so, this iw why the berry typescripts permit you to use the rare texmf-tree names, while additional fonts can follow the more verbose scheme (unless of course one sorts out the funny short name and names the fonts manually). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p
At 04:29 PM 3/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: I don't know, it's the last version unmodified on Windows but here is the log of texexec 3.1 looks like a miktex problem (if you make a minimal faling file i'm sure that one of the miktex context users will try it for you) This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.10b-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.2) (preloaded format=cont-en 2003.3.12) 12 MAR 2003 16:25 entering extended mode **reiserfs.tex (reiserfs.tex{pdftex.cfg} ah interesting, we have been using that for years now ithout troubles -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures
Hi, The normal double column mechanism tries to place a graphic, stores it when there is no place, and flushes it as soon as possible. The \startcolumns mechanism works well intermixed with the standard one column mode. In your case, esp for vertical chinese, use columnsets: \startcolumnset \placefigure[tblr:1]{}{} \placefigure[tblr:2]{}{} \input tufte \stopcolumnset This will place the floats on top of the first and second column; an alternative usage is: \placefigure[tblr]{}{} \placefigure[tbrl]{}{} Think of tb meaning flush from top to bottom, and lr to mean from left to right; so, there are quite some ways to place/flush a graphic. Thanks. It place the figures side by side correctly. But, there is another problem. After the two figures, it force a page break and leave a large blank even though the blank area can accommodate the next paragraph. I attached the test file and waht I really want is: One column texts two figures sidebyside One column texts Well, here you run into the difference between columns and columnsets. Columnsets can be mixed with one column mode, but you need to balance (automatic balancing is pretty hard for complex columnsets, so this is not yet in the kernel, but manual balancing is (one can set the number of lines per column). However, it seems that you want something: \starttext \startbuffer \startcombination {\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]} {\placefloatcaption[figure]{x}} {\externalfigure[cow][frame=on, width=3cm]} {\placefloatcaption[figure]{y}} \stopcombination \stopbuffer \placefigure{none}{\getbuffer} \stoptext This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some time ago for Karel W so you should buy him a beer. When testing this i foun dout that there is an error in the macro. A few days ago i added the 'distance' key to caption setups, and (of course) i didn't test that with free floating captions (unresolved intermediate macro). So, in page-flt you need to replace the following bit of trivial code: \def\dodosetfloatcaption[#1][#2]#3% to do namespace for number/ascii {\ifnofloatnumber % also handle trialtypesetting [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] \else \verhoognummer[#1]% \maakhetnummer[#1]% \globallet\flhetnummer\hetnummer [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] {\dofloatreference \redofloatorder{#1}% \doschrijfnaarlijst{#1}{\flhetnummer}{#3}{#1}% \doglobal\convertargument#3\to\flasciititle % \asciititle is global \doifsomething{#2} {\rawreference\s!flt{#2}{{\flhetnummer}{\flasciititle}}}% [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] nills [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] {\preparethenumber{\??kj#1}\flhetnummer\preparednumber \doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!letter\c!kleur {\doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!kopletter\c!kopkleur {\labeltexts{#1}{\preparednumber}}% \doattributes{\??kj#1}\c!tekstletter\c!tekstkleur {\dotfskip{\getvalue{\??kj#1\c!afstand}}#3}}}% THIS LINE WAS WRONG \fi} Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Table problem
At 08:50 AM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi Hans, I need to make a set of tables, which are quite simple. I wanted to use the \starttable..\stoptable environment. However I get very strange results in the last column (p-column) Please have a look at the test.tex file. Do I something in a wrong way or is there something broken? as patrick pointed out: use p(dimension) \starttable[|rw(1cm)|lw(3cm)|p(8cm)|] you had something wp(8cm) and the funny w spoils things (probably takes prev one) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01
At 05:15 PM 3/10/2003 -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Just been playing a bit with the magazine style. First, about this: % This style is used for producing explanationary documents. % Don't misuse it for other purposes, since it may confuse % users. Don't change the title either, since it provides a % way to categorize documents. Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to keep the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero Issue}? In any case, this is confusing (at least to me)... no, i mean the main title (* Way) shoul dremain unchanged. Also, IIRC, shouldn't the grey border surround the entire page, and extend to the edge? I am getting a thinner border in the shape of an L, with white space at the page edge. works ok here, puzzled Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: lowerleftdoubleninequote
At 11:53 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: What ist the correlation between 'punctuation', 'alpha' and 'def' ??? hanging punctuation is the traditional simple model of - , ; : . and ! hanging into the margin; pdftex goes beyond that and let's you hang any char into the margin, so this is why we speak of character protruding; fonthandling in context is currently used for hanging things but can be used for anything font related; the alpha, def etc setups are more or less derived from my personal prferences, thanh's thesis etc What you use all depends on your taste I have understand this, but I am still looking for docus to the 'fonthandler'-commands, becaus I don't understand how this mechanism works. The reason, why I am interesting in fonthandlers, was: To correct the lowerleftdoubleninequote-problem with cmr. To be honest, I am asking myself why this is not working out of the box, because cmr is TeX's standardfont. in that case: grep the base path for guillemots since these are implemented by means of fonthandlers in the aer fonts; with regards to quotes, it may make sense to switch from cmr to aer; also, there is the latin modern coming, which will bring you all the quotes and chars you need [the latin modern family is officially launched at the next dante meeting] Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Table problem
At 07:38 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: To me this way of coding a table lacks logic. - However it works now. this is the original TaBlE's way of doing things Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
At 03:22 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: www.pragma-ade.com/show-fil.pdf (made nicer, watch the new image archive), this one is now really there The mill.png in the cont-img.zip is broken. Gimp tells me that i zipped and uploaded everything again Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] m-bib question
At 09:15 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 04:35 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: IIRC, isn't it the case that texexec should take care of the bibtex run needed for mbib? Am finding I need to run bibtex before texexec to get it to work... To my knowledge, m-bib is not yet integrated in texexec. you can do that in your tex doc with a call like: \installprogram{bibsomething \jobname} I don't use bin things so i leave the right call to experts -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures
At 10:27 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: HH This special feature (separate captions) was introduced quite some time ago HH for Karel W so you should buy him a beer. Hey, I thought it was me who requested this feature? (I remember needing it for side by side floating tables when it still wasn't implemented ...) actually, that was the moment it was cleaned up and moved from the particular style to the core files; the reason for decoupling them was in a special kind of float where clicking on the caption brought up a big float in a widget (whichin turn was based on the widget based help system) -) [this is why in page-flt there is still the mapping to old names used in 'uguide'] BTW, AFAICS there is no way to make a reference (à la \infigure) to a single element in a /combination/ ... can this be done? there is a trick for that, but i cannot find it right now; however, the floatcaption command accepts a second optional arg being the ref. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 11:08 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH btw, here are shorter defs: HH \def\startdisplay HH{\relax\ifvmode\else\endgraf\noindent\fi\ignorespaces} HH \def\stopdisplay HH{\par\doifnextcharelse\par\donothing\noindent} HH watch the \relax (prevents lookahead) and \doifnextcharelse Good to know, thanks. BTW, have you had a look at the patches I submitted to the list around 10pm yesterday? What do you think of them? What patch? Yesterday around 10 i was deparately trying to figure out why our (linux) mail server was infected by a spammer (some kind of sendmail bug combined with pop3 things) and in the process (took me the whole morning) probably lost some mails. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] s-mag-01
At 09:11 AM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:00 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hans, are you saying anyone using this to produce a document ought to keep the title specified in the style (which here seems to be {Zero Issue}? In any case, this is confusing (at least to me)... no, i mean the main title (* Way) shoul dremain unchanged. OK, I understand that. But I'm still unclear of the logic here. I understand the style is used for producing explanationary documents, but surely not everyone wants to name such documents the same way, and provides a way to categorize documents seems more applicable to Pragma than to outside users... i have no time for that I'm not sure how (or if) I might want to use the style, but I could imagine student lab manuals maybe (?). In any case, I appreciate your releasing it, as it's a good learning tool at the very least. sure, i only want to make sure that This Way is used for our stuff only; i have no problem with you using the style with a title other than *Way, like LabLog or so Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \inframed in table
At 11:47 AM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: how can I make sure both framed texts stay on one line without using \hbox. There is enough space in the cell so the line break should not occur at all. a typical tex problem, use \noindent or \dontleavehmode; th eproblem is that when a command (using grouping) starts a paragraph these side effects show up. \bTD \dontleavehmode \inframed{:} + \inframed{q} + ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[3]: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures
At 01:26 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: Yup, floatcaptions can do it all, nice. Now the question is: is it normal for the combination to stick to the left margin? Shouldn't hm, it probably is when you put some \maxdimen width content in it it be centered horizontally? I can achieve the effect by surrounding it with \midaligned{...} (i.e. \midalgined{\startcombination ... \stopcombination}) but it would be nice if it could be set as an option to combinations ... Hey, since when don't you read source code any more? \starttext \showframe \definieerplaats[mine][location=middle] % have to cook up a [english..italian] name for that one \setupcombinations[align=left,location=top] \placemine \bgroup \startcombination {\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=2cm]} {cow} {\externalfigure[cow][width=3cm,height=1cm]} {cow} \stopcombination \egroup \stoptext (this placement command also takes care of spacing, grid snapping and so, but should only be used in the mlv, not for instance inside floats; it's the same placement that is used in \startframedtext; you can define combinations btw) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[3]: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 12:47 PM 3/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: \def\synchronizeindentation {% \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!nee\noindentation \doifvalue{\??dd#1\c!springvolgendein}\v!auto\noindent} }% saves keying and also provides a hook Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 05:25 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hello list, I wish to bring the discussion again on displayed material. Display material is material that conceptually belongs to a paragraphs but typographically breaks it. After the display, the paragraph can continue or not. In ConTeXt, there are many things which should be considered displayed material: formulas, enumerations and other itemgroups, quotations, etc. Every start/stop pair that begins a new paragraph should actually be a displayed area. In ConTeXt, one can achieve such result by using [intentnext=yes] or [indentnext=no] on a case-by-case basis, depending on whether the start/stop pair is supposed to start a new paragraph or not. Of course, this manual way to do the thing goes against the general principle that the computer is supposed to do as much of the job as possible, by itself. I therefore wish to urge Hans to implement a new indentnext option, auto, which should give a behaviour similar to the one shown on this example: well it's on my todo list to provide this option, but first i need to finish a couple of grid things; actually live would be much easier if there wer \bpar \epar commands -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
At 03:22 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote: hmm, i still get the old show-fil.pdf when i download it. The mill.png in the cont-img.zip is broken. Gimp tells me that oeps, i mistakenly used a dos-unix conversion switch, i'll upload a new one asap Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] layout of xsteps-p
At 05:01 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: Is it possible to obtain the source of xsteps-p. I suppose that you mean the style? I'm not goint to publish undocumented styles (also, i took a quick look into it and could redo it in 30% less code nowadays [one problem is that there is more code in ther ethan used in the styles, esp alternative style code] I like this layout, but it's difficult to realize the same. what aspect is giving you troubles, i can explain those Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Displayed material, again
At 05:25 PM 3/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: to do as much of the job as possible, by itself. I therefore wish to urge Hans to implement a new indentnext option, auto, which should give a behaviour similar to the one shown on this example: btw, here are shorter defs: \def\startdisplay {\relax\ifvmode\else\endgraf\noindent\fi\ignorespaces} \def\stopdisplay {\par\doifnextcharelse\par\donothing\noindent} watch the \relax (prevents lookahead) and \doifnextcharelse anyway, isn't a \stopdisplay followed by an empty line still supposed to be a display?, so the full model is: \startparagraph text or not \startdisplay \stopdisplay text or not \stopparagraph the startparagraph and stopparagraph can be kind of automatic, but that's just an added bonus for those who want to use empty lines as signals (something which is not common, for instance in xml where proper tagging takes place). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] relative font size
At 12:54 PM 3/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: Jens-Uwe Morawski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 01:42:23AM CET]: use rscale=scale factor: \definetypeface[BodyFont][tt][mono][LuxiMono][default] [encoding=ec,rscale=0.9] This works. Many thanks! \showfontstrip may help you to determine the right amount Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Paragraph indentation in enumerations?
At 03:33 PM 3/9/2003 +0100, you wrote: Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Emil Hedevang Lohse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Emil, There is no indentation of the paragraphs. How can I fix this? have you read the recent thread about Indenting in description? I have now, and the hack from Hans works fine, thanks. i'm uploading a new stable and beta with this functionality included; when using the update, throw away that patch ! Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] sidebyside figures
Hi Lei Wang, I have several small figures and want to place them in two columns as follows: ___ __ | | || | | || | Figure | | Figure| || || |__| |__| Fig 1. blabla Fig 2. blabla I tried use columns \startcolumns[n=2] \placefigure[here][fig:1]{blabla}{\externalfigure[fig1]} \columns \placefigure[here][fig:2]{blabla}{\externalfigure[fig2]} \stopcolumns It seems work depend on the pagebreak and not works all time. If there are a pagebreak before or after the block of these figures, it not works well. The \placesidebyside and use combinations will give one float Figure with the two pictures as subfigures. But what I want is two figure. The normal double column mechanism tries to place a graphic, stores it when there is no place, and flushes it as soon as possible. The \startcolumns mechanism works well intermixed with the standard one column mode. In your case, esp for vertical chinese, use columnsets: \startcolumnset \placefigure[tblr:1]{}{} \placefigure[tblr:2]{}{} \input tufte \stopcolumnset This will place the floats on top of the first and second column; an alternative usage is: \placefigure[tblr]{}{} \placefigure[tbrl]{}{} Think of tb meaning flush from top to bottom, and lr to mean from left to right; so, there are quite some ways to place/flush a graphic. (also play with: \placefigure[fxtb:2*3] and [fxbt:1*18] which gives you absolute placement; big floats will span columns, so something: \definecolumnset[chinese][n=10] \startcolumnset[chinese] \placefigure{}{} \stopcolumnset should work ok Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: lowerleftdoubleninequote
At 10:15 PM 3/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hallo! In order to understand the appended puzzle, I am looking for documentations about: \definefonthandling \startfonthandling \usehandling I have found the example about 'hanging punctuation', but I could'nt even understand this example. What ist the correlation between 'punctuation', 'alpha' and 'def' hanging punctuation is the traditional simple model of - , ; : . and ! hanging into the margin; pdftex goes beyond that and let's you hang any char into the margin, so this is why we speak of character protruding; fonthandling in context is currently used for hanging things but can be used for anything font related; the alpha, def etc setups are more or less derived from my personal prferences, thanh's thesis etc What you use all depends on your taste Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new version, new manuals, new files
Hi, I uploaded a new version (stable and beta are now the same). This version inclused a few patches/extensions discussed recently. There is quite some new support for side floats, column sets have become rather stable (a manual will follow soon). Although a lot of functionality is still 'my little secret' to be revealed when users request it, you can ready find some info in www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals.details.pdf so, this manual has now moved from temp. It has currently some 80+ pages, and will probably tripple in size over time. This manual provides you some info about how to apply the relatively new layer and related things. The idea is that this kind of detailed trickery and/or thinsg not related to structuring will be discussed in details.pdf, while the structuring ends up in the ref manual (i'll pick up that thread soon). I also updated www.pragma-ade.com/show-fil.pdf (made nicer, watch the new image archive), www.pragma-ade.com/show-man.pdf (more manuals, not all yet on the site but i need the file here and it gives you an idea of what is coming), www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf Next in my list of manuals is finishing the correspondence manual (letters and envelops and alike), the pstopdf manual, and a few more. Happy reading and contexing, Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Index questions
At 03:37 PM 3/5/2003 +0100, you wrote: Good evening. Can you tell me please where can I get the file (and some documentation to it)? Index is my worst (and maybe only) problem with ConTeXt. I'll look into the index problems asap, (first i want to haev the new stable version out); the index functionality is there, it's mainly a matter of getting the sorting done (well, a quick sorting hack is: \index [sortkey] {index}) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com - information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context