[NTSysADM] RE: Office 365 licensing question

[Ryan Finnesey]

You may want to look at the K skus for that group of employees

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:59 PM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues Discussion list' 
Subject: [NTSysADM] Office 365 licensing question

For the E1 licensing, I've heard a rumor that they have to be tied to Azure AD, 
not on-prem AD.  Does anyone know if that's correct?  We have several hundred 
employees that don't need a computer or Office, but do need e-mail, for 
timesheet purposes.  We want to give those folks E1 licenses.


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[NTSysADM] RE: A New Choice in Webster’s Life

[Ryan Finnesey]

Congratulations

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Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:09 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] A New Choice in Webster’s Life

Thought some of you might like to know this.

http://carlwebster.com/new-choice-websters-life/

Thanks


Webster

RE: [NTSysADM] temporary internet options

[Ryan Finnesey]

Verizon done offer static IP.  May have issues with rdns and servers.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Bill Humphriesmailto:b...@red5support.com
Sent: ‎3/‎24/‎2015 7:33 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] temporary internet options

Hi all,

So, I have a small office client whose office manager bailed about the same 
time their ISP/phone provider notified them that they were shutting down.  Long 
story, short, they are looking at losing internet and phone service April 1st, 
and the new carrier can’t make that deadline for circuit delivery.  They have 
really low bandwidth needs, but they currently have a static IP for exchange 
server and 1.5mb circuit for internet/mail flow and VoIP.  So, they may need 
something to cover that for a couple of weeks.


I’m tempted to try an LTE modem, but don’t know about getting a static IP for 
short term.

Thanks.

Bill


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RE: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Turning off the Swap Disk seems to have fixed the issue.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of D R
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:38 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

I did an upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 and 8.1. In Windows 7 I had some 
issues but couldn't trace it down. When I went to Windows 8, things were fine, 
but for awhile. Same thing when I went to 8.1.

I finally ran the Advanced System Care - Ultimate and found issues with some 
possible malware and the way some applications were hogging resources. I then 
ran Malwarebyte's AntiMalware and found a whole bunch more. Once I did that, 
the issues went away.

Also, how much RAM do you have on that laptop? You do know that if you have 
over 4gig of RAM you really don't need to run the Swap Disk. If you disable 
that then that should take care of the Disk I/O issues that you may be having.

Another thing, since you say that this is an older laptop, does this use IDE or 
SATA for the interface from the hard drive to the laptop? IDE would be a 40 pin 
connector, whereas SATA would be a slot edge. If IDE, then the fastest thorough 
put would be about 150Mb per sec, and that is where your bottleneck is going to 
be.

Hope this gives you some places to go look.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Is it possible my hardware is not compatible?  It is a fairly old laptop but 
the funny thing is it runs Windows 7 just fine.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Manuel Santos 
nel...@gmail.commailto:nel...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the same issue and think it's a faillure of windows 8.0 and 8.1

2014-11-09 1:48 GMT+00:00 D R drod...@gmail.commailto:drod...@gmail.com:
Mine was 'a clean install' and I still had issues.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Did not think of that. It is a clean install of windows but I will give it a 
try. Thanks

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: D Rmailto:drod...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎11/‎8/‎2014 7:50 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?
I had the same issue, as well. Found out that I had some malware on my drive 
that caused this issue. You might want to download and run Malwarebytes 
Anti-Malware on your system. Also, you may have some background tasks on your 
system that may not register as malware but are part of your boot up process 
and it just hangs the system up.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
I am having an issue with a ThinkPad T400s.  The hard drive is often at 100%  
disk activity and as a result programs lock up.  When I look in task manager it 
is always the application I have in the foreground  that is using the disk and 
not a background task.  I thought it might be a hardware issue so I replaced 
the drive.

But now I am thinking it is software related  because I only have this issue 
under Windows 8.1 and not Windows 7.  Any ideas?

Cheers
Ryan




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[NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am having an issue with a ThinkPad T400s.  The hard drive is often at 100%  
disk activity and as a result programs lock up.  When I look in task manager it 
is always the application I have in the foreground  that is using the disk and 
not a background task.  I thought it might be a hardware issue so I replaced 
the drive.

But now I am thinking it is software related  because I only have this issue 
under Windows 8.1 and not Windows 7.  Any ideas?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Did not think of that. It is a clean install of windows but I will give it a 
try. Thanks

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: D Rmailto:drod...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎11/‎8/‎2014 7:50 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

I had the same issue, as well. Found out that I had some malware on my drive 
that caused this issue. You might want to download and run Malwarebytes 
Anti-Malware on your system. Also, you may have some background tasks on your 
system that may not register as malware but are part of your boot up process 
and it just hangs the system up.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
I am having an issue with a ThinkPad T400s.  The hard drive is often at 100%  
disk activity and as a result programs lock up.  When I look in task manager it 
is always the application I have in the foreground  that is using the disk and 
not a background task.  I thought it might be a hardware issue so I replaced 
the drive.

But now I am thinking it is software related  because I only have this issue 
under Windows 8.1 and not Windows 7.  Any ideas?

Cheers
Ryan




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Re: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is it possible my hardware is not compatible?  It is a fairly old laptop but 
the funny thing is it runs Windows 7 just fine.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Manuel Santos 
nel...@gmail.commailto:nel...@gmail.com wrote:

I have the same issue and think it's a faillure of windows 8.0 and 8.1

2014-11-09 1:48 GMT+00:00 D R drod...@gmail.commailto:drod...@gmail.com:
Mine was 'a clean install' and I still had issues.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Did not think of that. It is a clean install of windows but I will give it a 
try. Thanks

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: D Rmailto:drod...@gmail.com
Sent: ?11/?8/?2014 7:50 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] 100% disk activity?

I had the same issue, as well. Found out that I had some malware on my drive 
that caused this issue. You might want to download and run Malwarebytes 
Anti-Malware on your system. Also, you may have some background tasks on your 
system that may not register as malware but are part of your boot up process 
and it just hangs the system up.

Daniel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
I am having an issue with a ThinkPad T400s.  The hard drive is often at 100%  
disk activity and as a result programs lock up.  When I look in task manager it 
is always the application I have in the foreground  that is using the disk and 
not a background task.  I thought it might be a hardware issue so I replaced 
the drive.

But now I am thinking it is software related  because I only have this issue 
under Windows 8.1 and not Windows 7.  Any ideas?

Cheers
Ryan




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drod...@gmail.commailto:drod...@gmail.com



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drod...@gmail.commailto:drod...@gmail.com

RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications

[Ryan Finnesey]

Thank you I will order a few books.

Cheers
Ryan


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of James M. Popoca
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:21 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications

I like the William Panek books as reference guides (more than study guides); 
there are good practice tests you can do to assess your knowledge. Currently 
working on MCSA Server 2012.

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Server-Complete-Study-Guide/dp/1118544072/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1407968252sr=1-1keywords=mcsa

James
Chicago, IL
United States

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 4:59 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications



Sent from

From: Ryan Finneseymailto:r...@finnesey.com
Sent: ‎8/‎12/‎2014 7:28 PM
Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications

It has been at least 14 years since I had to sit and take a Microsoft 
certification test.  I need to take a few tests.  I was wondering what study 
guides  people are using.



Cheers

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RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications

[Ryan Finnesey]

Sent from

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Sent: ‎8/‎12/‎2014 7:28 PM
Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft certifications


It has been at least 14 years since I had to sit and take a Microsoft 
certification test.  I need to take a few tests.  I was wondering what study 
guides  people are using.



Cheers

Ryan

Re: [NTSysADM] Start Menu returns

[Ryan Finnesey]

It has not retuned just yet.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 3, 2014, at 4:27 AM, James Rankin 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

So the Start Menu is coming back to Windows 8!

Is this a new direction from MS, actually listening to what certain subsets of 
users want? If it is, then I'm impressed.

I doubt very much they will bring TechNet back to us also thoughI think 
that interferes too much with what they're hoping to do with Cloud OS.

My 2 cents.



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Re: [NTSysADM] How much to implement a Cisco telephone implementation

[Ryan Finnesey]

What are you doing for CALs.  If I remember Lync voice services is part of 
enterprise CAL.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Stefan Jafs 
sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote:

We are looking at replacing our old Nortel BCM 450 for about 275 users.
The shortlist is Cisco and Microsoft Lync. We are leaning towards Cisco a bit 
more expensive but also only 1 vendor (the President likes the hardware 
platform, even though Cisco runs with VM's).
Anyhow implementation is about $66k (Lync is about $56k), to me that sounds 
like about twice too much, has anyone have done a similar implementation, and / 
or is it a fair price? And we would do the placement of the phones ourselves.

__
Stefan Jafs

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: How much to implement a Cisco telephone implementation

[Ryan Finnesey]

I love Lync use it on my ipad and windows phone all the time.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

Would you develop that thought further?

I use Lync and Skype extensively as softphones, and I'm pretty happy with their 
performance

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:36 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: How much to implement a Cisco telephone 
implementation


Softphones are, umm, interesting. Definitely do a trial with a number of 
different types of users before going whole hog.
On Mar 26, 2014 2:16 PM, Stefan Jafs 
sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote:
Yes strictly Outlook and Exchange, and this is also about UM, not just a phone 
system. The client for smart devices is very important and you are correct we 
do not need phones for all desks, may use Softphones on quit a few. We do not 
really care much for video and web conferencing, however we are planning to use 
the Desktop sharing.

__
Stefan Jafs

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Frank Ress
Sent: March 26, 2014 12:20 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: How much to implement a Cisco telephone implementation

Depends on a lot of considerations that you don't mention.  Are you an 
Outlook/Exchange shop?  How much value is there in unified messaging and the 
features that go with it (e.g. voice-to-text and vice versa)?

Do you even WANT desk sets? (We're looking at the same migration, and intend to 
almost completely move to soft phones and headsets.)  It's not either-or, you 
can save a lot with soft phones, but use desk sets where you'd like.

What about web and video conferencing?  Again, that's one of the attractive 
features to us in a Lync solution.  We could do more self-hosting for these 
services.

We looked at Cisco several years ago, when we first entertained our PBX 
replacement.  They didn't yet offer soft phones, and the Cisco desk sets were 
pretty expensive.  I have no idea how well they'd interoperate with the rest of 
a Microsoft environment today - and I don't know how much you care.

We're a fairly pure Windows/Exchange/SQL Server/Sharepoint/Office environment.  
Lync fits well.  I just wish that I had a budget.  Unfortunately, management 
usually perceives this as a pure voice play, and it's anything but these days.

Frank Ress

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Jafs
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:35 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] How much to implement a Cisco telephone implementation

We are looking at replacing our old Nortel BCM 450 for about 275 users.
The shortlist is Cisco and Microsoft Lync. We are leaning towards Cisco a bit 
more expensive but also only 1 vendor (the President likes the hardware 
platform, even though Cisco runs with VM's).
Anyhow implementation is about $66k (Lync is about $56k), to me that sounds 
like about twice too much, has anyone have done a similar implementation, and / 
or is it a fair price? And we would do the placement of the phones ourselves.

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[NTSysADM] Office 2013 SP1 - Click To Run

[Ryan Finnesey]

So I have yet to get my head around Click To Run and Office but I would like to 
update to SP1. Do I need to wait for the March update?  SP1 did install via 
Windows Update on my Nokia tablet but not my laptop.

Sent from my iPad

Re: [NTSysADM] Microsoft Surface Pro 2

[Ryan Finnesey]

Just ordered  a few from CDW linked to an EA.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Stefan Jafs 
sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote:

Ok so we have standardized on the Microsoft Surface Pro 2, 256GB as a desktop 
replacement for our sales force. Great product, only problem can't get them 
anymore, no ETA from Microsoft.
I have Type keyboards on B/O with CDW since November!

How  can Microsoft have so totally misjudged the Surface Pro 2 sales 
It's incompetence as far as I'm concerned.

__
Stefan Jafs

Re: [NTSysADM] Server with 144GB of RAM installed for $594

[Ryan Finnesey]

Very

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote:

Tempting...

-sc

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:42 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Server with 144GB of RAM installed for $594

More fun for budget home lab users.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-C6100-C6105-CLOUD-SERVER-6x-1-8GHz-AMD-6-CORE-HEX-CORE-144GB-RAM-3x-250GB-/181306790824?pt=COMP_EN_Servershash=item2a36ba13a8

Dave

Re: [NTSysADM] LogMeIn Free ... now isn't (free, anymore). Recommendations?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Also been a Citrix fan.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 21, 2014, at 9:07 AM, James Rankin 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

join.mehttp://join.me always works for connecting to family and friends

As for my own PC, I usually use GoToMyPC, but there are probably better/cheaper 
options


On 21 January 2014 14:03, Michael Leone 
oozerd...@gmail.commailto:oozerd...@gmail.com wrote:
Got this notice today:

As of January 21, 2014, LogMeIn Free will no longer be available.

Came as news to me, I hadn't heard ahead of time that they were going
to discontinue this service. Anyone have a recommendation for another
free service? I have 4 or 5 machines I regularly use this with (2 of
mine, and others are family members), and before I sign up for some
bulk account, I'd like to hear about options. I'm looking for remote
control mostly, don't really need file transfer. What do you all
recommend? Years back I used VNC, but that is not nearly as fast (not
even the various permutations like TightVNC or UltraCNC, etc).





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Re: [NTSysADM] Alternatives to Network Solutions?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have used Ultra DNS in the past.  

Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 3, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tom Miller tominyorkt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One of my clients uses Network Solutions as DNS provider and web site host.  
 NetSol took the site off-line recently - without any warning - due to some 
 vulnerability (which was not stated by NetSol).
 
 We got it fixed.  But the way NetSol handled it was bad without attempting to 
 contact anyone before taking it offline.
 
 So I'm looking to move those hosted services to another provider.  I'd be 
 happy to use a private provider that hosts the site and also can manage the 
 site if our admin is away.  Suggestions?  This is Eastern USA.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom

Re: [NTSysADM] Application Virtualization/Publishing softwares

[Ryan Finnesey]

Big App-V fan.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:22 AM, Rankin, James R 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

App-V is the best IMO

A lot of people also swear by ThinApp
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Subject: [NTSysADM] Application Virtualization/Publishing softwares

Hi,

Wish you all, A very Happy New year 2014.

I am looking for Application Virtualization/Publishing software. Currently we 
are using GraphOn GoGlobal for windows to publish SAP app. Would like to know 
which product you are using for app virtualization. Appreciate your response.



Dhiraj






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[NTSysADM] Merry Christmas

[Ryan Finnesey]

Wanted to wish everyone a Marry Christmas and all the best in the New Year!

Cheers
Ryan

[NTSysADM] Azure?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was wondering if anyone has been moving services up into Azure?

Cheers
Ryan

Re: [NTSysADM] A bit of sanity prevails at MSFT

[Ryan Finnesey]

Everyone I talk with at Microsoft is so happy about this.  

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9244015/Microsoft_abandons_employee_ranking_system
 
 and
 
 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9244034/Microsoft_No_we_re_not_ditching_on_premise_Exchange
 
 

RE: [NTSysADM] Re: I wonder if I should put this up on ebay...

[Ryan Finnesey]

I used to really like the BeOS.

Cheers
Ryan




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of Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:06 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: I wonder if I should put this up on ebay...

I ditched some DOS 5.0 floppies and some BeOS 3.1 disks when we moved last 
year. :)






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On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Maglinger, Paul 
pmaglin...@scvl.commailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote:
I'm sure if I was pushed I could locate a stack of COBOL punch cards...

-Original Message-
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew W. Ross
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:40 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: I wonder if I should put this up on ebay...

I used to have some Dos 2.11 floppies for my dad's Epson Equity II, which I 
played Sopwith on as a kid...

Those and the Window 1.0 floppies... I wonder where they went.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Angus Scott-Fleming
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To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Sent: Thu, 14
Nov 2013 15:54:01 -0800
Subject: [NTSysADM] Re: I wonder if I should put this up on ebay...


 On 13 Nov 2013 at 23:03, J- P wrote:

  i have windows 95 floppies :)

 I have DOS 6.22 floppies and maybe even some 5.25 DOS floppies
 somewhere.

 --
 Angus Scott-Fleming
 GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
 1-520-290-5038
 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/

RE: [NTSysADM] And this is why we can't have nice things

[Ryan Finnesey]

This was on Windows Weekly today I just do not get the connection.



Cheers

Ryan




From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com on behalf 
of Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:54 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] And this is why we can't have nice things

http://techreport.com/news/25618/microsoft-pimps-internet-explorer-with-anime-mascot

--
Espi

RE: [NTSysADM] Video Editing Recommendation

[Ryan Finnesey]

+ 1  on Camtasia Studio

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:25 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Video Editing Recommendation

If it is really that simple - Windows Movie Maker.

For anything more complex: Camtasia Studio.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roger Wright
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Video Editing Recommendation

One of our engineers has a need to edit several .AVI file into one while 
slowing them down in the final cut.   This is totally out of my realm.  Any 
recommendations?


Roger Wright
___
I want to be the man my dog thinks I am.

Re: [NTSysADM] OT-ish: Laptop

[Ryan Finnesey]

Big fan of Lenovo.  The T Series has always been great.  I also love my X1 
carbon.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Bill Humphries 
b...@red5support.commailto:b...@red5support.com wrote:

I really like the T series thinkpads.  I've dropped my t410 so many times off a 
desk or table.

I like the Lenovo outlet.  http://outlet.lenovo.com

bill



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:09 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT-ish: Laptop

I like the Outlet.

In this case, http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet/.


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Kramer, Jack 
jack.kra...@cabs.msu.edumailto:jack.kra...@cabs.msu.edu wrote:
Honestly, for PC laptops I tend to buy a 2 to 3-year-old off-lease business 
model for cheap and then just swap them every year to two. I max their RAM and 
swap SATA HDDs for SSDs and have been pretty pleased. I would look for a 
Latitude 6410 or 6420 with the Quadro card, or 6510/6520 if you want a larger 
screen.

(sent from a mobile device)

 On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Rankin, James R 
 kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I need a new laptopanyone have any recommendations in this arena?

 I like fast, I like nice-lookingbut I also hate spending a lot of money, 
 maybe about 700 English pounds would be my budget? I don't really do much 
 besides browse, watch movies and work on documents, although it might be nice 
 to have decent battery life and maybe be able to run a CPU-intensive game 
 like Football Manager.

 I prefer to run Windows, but I'm open to all options really. Just looking for 
 some recommendations as to what type/model people find good, rather than 
 expecting anyone to do the research for me :-)

 Cheers,



 JR

 Sent from my (new!) BlackBerry, which may make me an antiques dealer, but 
 it's reliable as hell for email delivery :-)

Re: [NTSysADM]

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes lol sorry about that.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

I would just say he is a man of few words.

Thanks


Webster

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:47 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM]

Some might say it was vacuous.

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM, John Cook 
john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
That's a little vague

 John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS,
CompTIA A+, N+, Security+
VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:29 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM]






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RE: [NTSysADM] Patch Management

[Ryan Finnesey]

System Center is a great product just takes some time to set it up right

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 4:05 PM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Patch Management

Hi guys.
I'm looking for recommendations for a software package that can push out 
software installs and software updates to my workstations and servers. 
Obviously there is WSUS for the windows security updates but I need something 
that can do more than just the Microsoft stuff.

I work for a non profit so it looks like I can get Microsoft System Center 2012 
for really cheap, but wanted to know what other packages that you guys use.

Just starting my search and  I quickly looked at DameWare Patch Manager.  It 
looks like it could be interesting.

Thanks for any input.

Matt

Re: [Exchange] Semi-OT: AU bandwidth

[Ryan Finnesey]

I believe metered is very common outside the states.   

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 metered

[NTSysADM] RE: [Exchange] Semi-OT: AU bandwidth

[Ryan Finnesey]

In the UK I have been both metered and non-metered.  AU is one of the higher 
cost bandwidth markets.  

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:05 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] Semi-OT: AU bandwidth

Might well be - but not in the UK, which is where our other office is.

Very frustrating, I must say.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 I believe metered is very common outside the states.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 metered

RE: [Exchange] Semi-OT: AU bandwidth

[Ryan Finnesey]

In the UK I have been both metered and non-metered.  AU is one of the higher 
cost bandwidth markets.  

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 12:05 AM
To: excha...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [Exchange] Semi-OT: AU bandwidth

Might well be - but not in the UK, which is where our other office is.

Very frustrating, I must say.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 I believe metered is very common outside the states.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 metered

RE: [NTSysADM] Quiet Monday

[Ryan Finnesey]

I wish I went

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:32 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Quiet Monday

We're all at IT/Dev Connections. :)

Sent from Windows Phone 8

From: Jon Harrismailto:jk.har...@live.com
Sent: ‎9/‎30/‎2013 4:02 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Quiet Monday
Today is way too quiet.

RE: [NTSysADM] OT - Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am looking forward to watching this new show.  I just need to wait for it to 
become available on the Apple TV witch I am hoping is Wednesday or Thursday

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:05 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] OT - Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I hope you're all planning to watch Marvel's Agents of 
S.H.I.E.L.D.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D. tonight!  
Someone very dear to me organized all the visual effects for both the pilot and 
ongoing series. I hope its a success!

And on a really nerdy OT side-note (not that I have ANY inside knowledge - 
because I *really*really* dont on this matter), I believe that Agent Coulson 
is, will eventually become, or will be a prototype/model for The 
Visionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_(Marvel_Comics) in future 
Avengershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_(comics) movies.  My money is 
on that he's a real guy in this S.H.I.E.L.D. tv show - but in the Avengers 
movie, he was a Life Model 
Decoyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Model_Decoy.  'nuff said.

--
Espi

Re: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

[Ryan Finnesey]

I understand getting into Services and Devices but to completely dump the 
enterprise market and lockout the IT Pro community is nuts.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Again...what does a Services and Devices company need with a user conference? 
;)


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:11 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

It is very sad.  Just when I was happy about MEC they go and do this.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
I've probably heard the same explanations from the same people you did.

All I can say is that it's a damn shame.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:17 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

 And, I'll just throw this out there for thought: What does a Devices and 
 Services company need with a user conference?

Makes me wonder what Dell was thinking when they cancelled TEC. That left a 
huge gap. Where else could you see most of the strategists, product team, 
relevant vendors and MVPs for the particular technologies in one place?

I've talked to some folks that have gone from NetPro--Quest--Dell employees 
and some that have left and I've heard the reasoning but it still leaves a bad 
taste in my mouth and no real place for my specific conference/training needs.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:34 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Yep...I'll be there, speaking and running the Windows side of the event.

I'd be very interested to get your candid impression after the week. We're 
evolving the IT Pro side of the event to match the best of MMS and the best of 
TechEd to supply a conference for the people, by the people instead of a 
marketing event like they've all turned into these days. So feedback and 
participation is highly appreciated.

And, I'll just throw this out there for thought: What does a Devices and 
Services company need with a user conference?


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Cook
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Are you going to be at Connections? (or anybody on the list for that matter) 
I'm set to be there and would welcome the opportunity to meet some of you.


John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352)-244-1610tel:%28352%29-244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS,
CompTIA A+, N+, Security+
VSP4, VTSP4
image001.pngimage002.pngimage003.png
image004.pngimage005.png

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:53 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Yep...it's true.  So, we're moving on.  We've actually been prepared to move on 
for several years, but this year things just fit - just at the right time.

It feels like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry just seems to even out know 
matter what. Loses a $20 bill, finds one in his pocket.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:36 AM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.commailto:NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/09/16/the-microsoft-management-summit-saying-goodbye-to-a-good-friend/

--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk



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Re: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

[Ryan Finnesey]

It is very sad.  Just when I was happy about MEC they go and do this.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:

I’ve probably heard the same explanations from the same people you did.

All I can say is that it’s a damn shame.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:17 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

 And, I’ll just throw this out there for thought: What does a Devices and 
 Services company need with a user conference?

Makes me wonder what Dell was thinking when they cancelled TEC. That left a 
huge gap. Where else could you see most of the strategists, product team, 
relevant vendors and MVPs for the particular technologies in one place?

I’ve talked to some folks that have gone from NetPro--Quest--Dell employees 
and some that have left and I’ve heard the reasoning but it still leaves a bad 
taste in my mouth and no real place for my specific conference/training needs.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:34 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Yep…I’ll be there, speaking and running the Windows side of the event.

I’d be very interested to get your candid impression after the week. We’re 
evolving the IT Pro side of the event to match the best of MMS and the best of 
TechEd to supply a conference for the people, by the people instead of a 
marketing event like they’ve all turned into these days. So feedback and 
participation is highly appreciated.

And, I’ll just throw this out there for thought: What does a Devices and 
Services company need with a user conference?


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Cook
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Are you going to be at Connections? (or anybody on the list for that matter) 
I’m set to be there and would welcome the opportunity to meet some of you.


John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352)-244-1610tel:%28352%29-244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS,
CompTIA A+, N+, Security+
VSP4, VTSP4
image001.pngimage002.pngimage003.png
image004.pngimage005.png

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:53 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

Yep…it’s true.  So, we’re moving on.  We’ve actually been prepared to move on 
for several years, but this year things just fit – just at the right time.

It feels like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry just seems to even out know 
matter what. Loses a $20 bill, finds one in his pocket.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:36 AM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.commailto:NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] I see MMS is no more...

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/09/16/the-microsoft-management-summit-saying-goodbye-to-a-good-friend/

--
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RE: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

[Ryan Finnesey]

From the testing we have done with what I believe was the previous wave of 
Intune it did a great job of managing iOS devices.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:58 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

Windows Intune supports iPads.

Sent from Lenovo Tablet 2

From: David Mazzaccaro
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎September‎ ‎10‎, ‎2013 ‎9‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Thx.

I just got the Apple Business ph# to call tomorrow as well.






From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] on behalf of Matthew W. Ross 
[mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:02 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

Check out the various MDM solutions. We are using Meraki's free service with 
mostly success.

As for the purchasing, be prepared to learn how the Apple Volume Licensing 
model works^H^H^H^H is broken.

Also, as it appears iOS 7 will be released soon, and it will have behind the 
scene improvements for MSMs, we may see some improvement on the deploy ment 
front.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:53 PM, David Mazzaccaro 
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com
 wrote:

How are you guys handling the installation of an app (or apps) on your 
corporate iPads?

Do you create an iTunes account (apple ID) for each iPad?

We would like to start providing iPads to our sales reps, but don't want them 
to use the app store (our BES 10 MDM removes the store).. but what are the 
options to get specific apps we want on the devices?  From what I can tell, I 
can create an apple ID and buy an app, then download it on several iPads, but I 
assume this isn't legit.

Wondering what others are doing... thx!



.

.

RE: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I must say I have been very impressed what Microsoft has released  for the iOS 
platform. I use the Lync client it seems more on my iPad then my desktop.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:45 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

And, there’s another wave coming with the System Center 2012 R2 release on 
October 18.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:33 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

From the testing we have done with what I believe was the previous wave of 
Intune it did a great job of managing iOS devices.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:58 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

Windows Intune supports iPads.

Sent from Lenovo Tablet 2

From: David Mazzaccaro
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎September‎ ‎10‎, ‎2013 ‎9‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Thx.

I just got the Apple Business ph# to call tomorrow as well.






From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] on behalf of Matthew W. Ross 
[mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:02 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Apps on Corporate iPads?

Check out the various MDM solutions. We are using Meraki's free service with 
mostly success.

As for the purchasing, be prepared to learn how the Apple Volume Licensing 
model works^H^H^H^H is broken.

Also, as it appears iOS 7 will be released soon, and it will have behind the 
scene improvements for MSMs, we may see some improvement on the deploy ment 
front.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:53 PM, David Mazzaccaro 
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com
 wrote:

How are you guys handling the installation of an app (or apps) on your 
corporate iPads?

Do you create an iTunes account (apple ID) for each iPad?

We would like to start providing iPads to our sales reps, but don't want them 
to use the app store (our BES 10 MDM removes the store).. but what are the 
options to get specific apps we want on the devices?  From what I can tell, I 
can create an apple ID and buy an app, then download it on several iPads, but I 
assume this isn't legit.

Wondering what others are doing... thx!



.

.

Re: [NTSysADM] Limit to how many SMTP addresses a mailbox can have?

[Ryan Finnesey]

It made the move but I feel traffic has dropped off a bit.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Sam Cayze 
sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote:

I wasn't sure if the Exchange List made it over to ITForum :)  (Or exists at 
all anymore).  And it seemed (at the time), simple enough.
Yes, proxy address with multiple 'smtp:' values.

I've seen people on the interwebs mention they have gone up close to 1000 with 
no issues.  Someone else mentioned theirs got corrupted around 600.  Someone 
seemed pretty adamant that there was a hard limit at 1203.
I like your idea.  Although it makes scripting it a little tougher, but I could 
split it into batches and just adjust the script each time.  (I'll have to keep 
adding about 10 a week).

Note, this will only last for about 3 months - then we delete them all (Short 
term special project with a new client).

I'm more and more leaning towards Public Folders now, and I think I can get our 
operations team to agree to it.

Here's my PF import script if anyone is curious...

(CVS Field Name: PFName,PFIdentity,Email)

Import-CSV CreatePublicFolders.csv | ForEach {New-PublicFolder -Name $_.PFName 
-Path \Client1\BulkTechAccounts; Enable-MailPublicFolder -Identity 
$_.PFIdentity -HiddenFromAddressListsEnabled $True; Set-MailPublicFolder 
-Identity $_.PFIdentity -EmailAddressPolicyEnabled $False -EmailAddresses 
$_.Email}


Thanks for your input everyone, especially you Michael.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:05 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Limit to how many SMTP addresses a mailbox can have?

Why isn't this on the Exchange list? :) The other Exchange MVPs don't read this 
list

What attribute do you intend to use to store those email addresses? 
ProxyAddresses? I think the hard limit is around a thousand. If Brian is 
around, he can probably answer that. I would have to dive into the schema and I 
don't want to right now. :)

I would do this hierarchically.

Create a single user/mailbox that is the final destination for all of this 
email.

Pick some manageable number of email addresses (and no, I don't consider 400 
manageable). Then divide 400 by that number X. Create that number of subsidiary 
mailboxes and configure their Delivery Properties to deliver to the final 
destination mailbox. Assign X SMTP addresses to each mailbox.

I would place all the mailboxes in a single OU, and assign the final 
destination mailbox a name that would cause it to sort first in ADUC/ADAC/EAC 
with a detailed description.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sam Cayze
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 4:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Limit to how many SMTP addresses a mailbox can have?

I'm tasked with creating a mailbox that will house over 400 smtp email 
addresses.  Think of it as a big catch-all mailbox.
I'm not too worried about setting up a script to make them, I was just 
wondering if there was a hard limit in place.  Also, any other caveats to this?

Theirs is a good business justification for this.
My other thought it to script the creation of 400+ public folders for each 
address, which I would be totally happy with, but it's harder to monitor all 
those for new messages.
I guess another option would be to a create about 400 contacts in AD, each 
forwarding to a mailbox.  As long as that too is scriptable, I'm open to it.

Exchange 2010 SP1
-Sam

[NTSysADM] RE: EqulLogic or EMC

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have always been a big fan of EqualLogic.  Used them a lot with Exchange and 
SharePoint.  Always felt I got a good value

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:10 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] EqulLogic or EMC

I am down to EqualLogic 6500E or VNX5300.

Anyone have any favorites?
Ups or downs regarding either of these?

Thank you

David W. McSpadden

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[NTSysADM] RE: Yammer and ADFS

[Ryan Finnesey]

Just met with Yammer today and they were pushing Windows Azure AD.  I have not 
yet done a deep dive yet.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:57 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Yammer and ADFS

Has anyone implemented SSO with Yammer using ADFS? Our Yammer person is asking 
me to look into this, and I'm not finding much information on Yammer's web site 
or elsewhere.

RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

[Ryan Finnesey]

The challenge I have had in the past in adding  the EU Model Clauses formally 
to the agreement(s)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:26 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

There is a different set of responses from Microsoft to address the EU specific 
requirements.

If you start at http://trust.office365.com/ you can then get to the EU Model 
Clauses common questions - 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/business/office-365-trust-center-eu-model-clauses-faq-cloud-privacy-FX104033856.aspx

We're also in Scotland and have legal clients and they should already have 
policies and procedures internally to manage their data. Once they put their 
data in the Dublin data centres they will need to know that someone (i.e. you) 
can manage their data as effectively as an on-site exchange server.

As long as you cover all bases or let the client accept the risks then it's not 
a problem.

Mike

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: 12 August 2013 15:35
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

They are all over the Internet it seems not just the Cloud Providers.  
tapping the network at the peering points.  They can monitor all traffic not 
just the Cloud Providers.

Cheers
Ryan


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

Biggest problem for a solicitor would be client confidentiality, surely?

And as, according to the Snowden revelations,  both the NSA and GCHQ have their 
mitts all over 'the cloud'...

Phil

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Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT
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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jon D
Sent: 12 August 2013 13:04
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

I though I read somewhere that the European Union is recommending not to use 
American Cloud services?
The US Government is open about going through the data in the cloud.
Kind of a problem for a foreign company...


Jon


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Graeme Carstairs 
loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

We have a solicitor client who is considering office 365, and the Law Society 
of Scotland has issued guidelines on cloud services,

Does anyone know where I can find details on Microsoft website or else where on 
the Microsofts actual full terms and condions with special regards to

1. Ownership of e-mail
2. confidentiality
3. backup.
4. data retention
5. What happens if subscription ends?

I have found the SLA and it only details when you get service credits in event 
of system unavailability

Thanks

Graeme


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RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

[Ryan Finnesey]

They are all over the Internet it seems not just the Cloud Providers.  
tapping the network at the peering points.  They can monitor all traffic not 
just the Cloud Providers.

Cheers
Ryan


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

Biggest problem for a solicitor would be client confidentiality, surely?

And as, according to the Snowden revelations,  both the NSA and GCHQ have their 
mitts all over 'the cloud'...

Phil

--
Phil Randal
Infrastructure Engineer
Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT
Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: 
phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.ukmailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jon D
Sent: 12 August 2013 13:04
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Office 365 SLA and details on backups ownership etc

I though I read somewhere that the European Union is recommending not to use 
American Cloud services?
The US Government is open about going through the data in the cloud.
Kind of a problem for a foreign company...


Jon


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Graeme Carstairs 
loonyto...@gmail.commailto:loonyto...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

We have a solicitor client who is considering office 365, and the Law Society 
of Scotland has issued guidelines on cloud services,

Does anyone know where I can find details on Microsoft website or else where on 
the Microsofts actual full terms and condions with special regards to

1. Ownership of e-mail
2. confidentiality
3. backup.
4. data retention
5. What happens if subscription ends?

I have found the SLA and it only details when you get service credits in event 
of system unavailability

Thanks

Graeme


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[NTSysADM] OWA ( Office Web Apps)

[Ryan Finnesey]

Anyone deploy Office Web Apps?  How has the user  expense been?  Have you found 
it can replace a full Office install?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does anyone happen to know if Yammer is part of Core CAL or Enterprise CAL?  
All I can seem to find is that it's licensing is linked to Office 365.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:38 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Seems like the appropriate target but I don't see it used for that (sharing of 
documents and strategies) so much...

it does seem to sometimes help new folks with the where do I find' or how do 
you do ?? questions. 

The Corp Comm folks seem to use it the most I think and as you say, that's 
their bread and butter...

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steven Peck
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 10:49 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

You mean people engaged in communications and sharing of documents and 
strategies?  Seems like it hit its target market successfully.  :)

Steven

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 3:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 I guess I'm so old-fashioned that I really don't get the POINT of it 
 all, if you know what I mean

Me either. It slithered in the door here through HR as a 'pilot' before the MS 
acquisition IIRC. Once it got a foothold, it couldn't be gotten rid of and was 
rolled out system wide to anyone who wanted it. I jokingly call it cockroach 
software. 

Seems to be most popular with the HR, Marketing and Training type folks here.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:14 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Not quite sure how to answer the question. :)

It's a twitter+FB for the enterprise.  It seems to work fine. I guess I'm so 
old-fashioned that I really don't get the POINT of it all, if you know what I 
mean.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:35 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

What do you think of Yammer?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:21 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Oh!

Heck, I really don't know.

I've only integrated the most recent versions of everything: Exchange 2013, 
Lync 2013, SharePoint 2013, Yammer.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Uhhh.

Where it is Yammer, BTW...

Kurt

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does it integrate with 2010, or do we need to migrate to 2013?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 By the way, this was purchased by MSFT after Lync 2010 was released 
 (originally a 3rd party product). It is built-in to Lync 2013 (called 
 Persistent Chat there).

 It comes in VERY handy.

 Although for true enterprise social media, you should take a look at 
 Microsoft's release of Yammer, and how it integrates with Exchange and Lync.

 (Or NewsGator, if you want to consider non-Microsoft solutions.)

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:50 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 Well, holy moly - look at that!

 Something that isn't in my Lync Server 2010 Unleashed book - why am I not 
 surprised?

 Thanks very much - I'll definitely have a look at it..

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 Uh Lync Group Chat?

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12480


 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:15 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 We've got Lync 2010 Standard installed and running internally with IM and 
 video conferencing. At some point we'll

RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

[Ryan Finnesey]

It's ok I do not really get Twitter.  Now that I limited my number of friends 
on FB I find it a bit more useful. 

 I need to really dive into Yammer and also the social features within 
SharePoint 2013.  I see a lot of overlap between the two products. 

I think Group Chat will also be useful.  Do you know if Group Chat is part of 
Lync on Office 365?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:14 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Not quite sure how to answer the question. :)

It's a twitter+FB for the enterprise.  It seems to work fine. I guess I'm so 
old-fashioned that I really don't get the POINT of it all, if you know what I 
mean.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:35 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

What do you think of Yammer?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:21 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Oh!

Heck, I really don't know.

I've only integrated the most recent versions of everything: Exchange 2013, 
Lync 2013, SharePoint 2013, Yammer.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Uhhh.

Where it is Yammer, BTW...

Kurt

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does it integrate with 2010, or do we need to migrate to 2013?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 By the way, this was purchased by MSFT after Lync 2010 was released 
 (originally a 3rd party product). It is built-in to Lync 2013 (called 
 Persistent Chat there).

 It comes in VERY handy.

 Although for true enterprise social media, you should take a look at 
 Microsoft's release of Yammer, and how it integrates with Exchange and Lync.

 (Or NewsGator, if you want to consider non-Microsoft solutions.)

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:50 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 Well, holy moly - look at that!

 Something that isn't in my Lync Server 2010 Unleashed book - why am I not 
 surprised?

 Thanks very much - I'll definitely have a look at it..

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 Uh Lync Group Chat?

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12480


 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:15 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 We've got Lync 2010 Standard installed and running internally with IM and 
 video conferencing. At some point we'll start to federate, but an 
 engineering manager wants more, because we've got staff in Redmond and 
 Brisbane, and are working with a firm in Toronto.

 Here's what he thinks he's looking for

  We communicate with [outside firm] in Cananda, devs upstairs and
  marketing in the work cells downstairs, with individuals in Australia,
  and need to be able to create permanent chat room (or their equivalent)
  with joinable membership. These rooms need to enable synchronous
  and asynchronous capabilities so those coming later can see the
  thread of what has been said and add to it. Think of it as a Jabber
  server. Lync does 1-1, not sure if it does many to many, and if it does
  whether the participants have to be re-added for each interaction (not
  good). This is a key collaboration tool that is needed. Right now we
  rely on email and it is clunky: we have to remember to add or remove
  people etc. Also, Jabber allows for private conversation within the 
 chat
  room. This will also help those who are sick and can't come in to
  interact with the rest of the team.

 While Lync does do some of this, it doesn't seem to fit the rest of his 
 requirements, and I'm not sure what would.

 Does anyone have recommendations for what he wants? Bonus points if it 
 integrates with Lync, of course.

 Kurt

RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

[Ryan Finnesey]

What do you think of Yammer?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:21 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Oh!

Heck, I really don't know.

I've only integrated the most recent versions of everything: Exchange 2013, 
Lync 2013, SharePoint 2013, Yammer.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Uhhh.

Where it is Yammer, BTW...

Kurt

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does it integrate with 2010, or do we need to migrate to 2013?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 By the way, this was purchased by MSFT after Lync 2010 was released 
 (originally a 3rd party product). It is built-in to Lync 2013 (called 
 Persistent Chat there).

 It comes in VERY handy.

 Although for true enterprise social media, you should take a look at 
 Microsoft's release of Yammer, and how it integrates with Exchange and Lync.

 (Or NewsGator, if you want to consider non-Microsoft solutions.)

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:50 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 Well, holy moly - look at that!

 Something that isn't in my Lync Server 2010 Unleashed book - why am I not 
 surprised?

 Thanks very much - I'll definitely have a look at it..

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 Uh Lync Group Chat?

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12480


 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:15 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 We've got Lync 2010 Standard installed and running internally with IM and 
 video conferencing. At some point we'll start to federate, but an 
 engineering manager wants more, because we've got staff in Redmond and 
 Brisbane, and are working with a firm in Toronto.

 Here's what he thinks he's looking for

  We communicate with [outside firm] in Cananda, devs upstairs and
  marketing in the work cells downstairs, with individuals in Australia,
  and need to be able to create permanent chat room (or their equivalent)
  with joinable membership. These rooms need to enable synchronous
  and asynchronous capabilities so those coming later can see the
  thread of what has been said and add to it. Think of it as a Jabber
  server. Lync does 1-1, not sure if it does many to many, and if it does
  whether the participants have to be re-added for each interaction (not
  good). This is a key collaboration tool that is needed. Right now we
  rely on email and it is clunky: we have to remember to add or remove
  people etc. Also, Jabber allows for private conversation within the 
 chat
  room. This will also help those who are sick and can't come in to
  interact with the rest of the team.

 While Lync does do some of this, it doesn't seem to fit the rest of his 
 requirements, and I'm not sure what would.

 Does anyone have recommendations for what he wants? Bonus points if it 
 integrates with Lync, of course.

 Kurt

RE: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

[Ryan Finnesey]

I do not think Yammer is on the EA yet.  I think it is part of Office 365 

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:33 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

Well, if it turns out that the group chat addon doesn't do the job, I'll take a 
look at Yammer.

We have an EA, so licensing won't be an issue, just all the technical folderol 
of getting up to the new version.

Kurt

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Oh!

 Heck, I really don't know.

 I've only integrated the most recent versions of everything: Exchange 2013, 
 Lync 2013, SharePoint 2013, Yammer.

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:16 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 Uhhh.

 Where it is Yammer, BTW...

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does it integrate with 2010, or do we need to migrate to 2013?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 By the way, this was purchased by MSFT after Lync 2010 was released 
 (originally a 3rd party product). It is built-in to Lync 2013 (called 
 Persistent Chat there).

 It comes in VERY handy.

 Although for true enterprise social media, you should take a look at 
 Microsoft's release of Yammer, and how it integrates with Exchange and Lync.

 (Or NewsGator, if you want to consider non-Microsoft solutions.)

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:50 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 Well, holy moly - look at that!

 Something that isn't in my Lync Server 2010 Unleashed book - why am I not 
 surprised?

 Thanks very much - I'll definitely have a look at it..

 Kurt

 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 Uh Lync Group Chat?

 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12480


 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:15 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] Perhaps something to supplement Lync

 We've got Lync 2010 Standard installed and running internally with IM and 
 video conferencing. At some point we'll start to federate, but an 
 engineering manager wants more, because we've got staff in Redmond and 
 Brisbane, and are working with a firm in Toronto.

 Here's what he thinks he's looking for

  We communicate with [outside firm] in Cananda, devs upstairs and
  marketing in the work cells downstairs, with individuals in Australia,
  and need to be able to create permanent chat room (or their 
 equivalent)
  with joinable membership. These rooms need to enable synchronous
  and asynchronous capabilities so those coming later can see the
  thread of what has been said and add to it. Think of it as a Jabber
  server. Lync does 1-1, not sure if it does many to many, and if it 
 does
  whether the participants have to be re-added for each interaction (not
  good). This is a key collaboration tool that is needed. Right now we
  rely on email and it is clunky: we have to remember to add or remove
  people etc. Also, Jabber allows for private conversation within the 
 chat
  room. This will also help those who are sick and can't come in to
  interact with the rest of the team.

 While Lync does do some of this, it doesn't seem to fit the rest of his 
 requirements, and I'm not sure what would.

 Does anyone have recommendations for what he wants? Bonus points if it 
 integrates with Lync, of course.

 Kurt

Re: [NTSysADM] ADFS - MULTIPLE DOMAINS

[Ryan Finnesey]

I do find the docs on both Azure and Office 365 a mess. Maybe because the 
platform is changing so quickly.

They do seem to be pushing office 365 very hard.

Cheers
Ryan


Sent from my iPad

On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Ken Cornetet 
ken.corne...@kimball.commailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com wrote:

It is supported and sort of documented - as long as you know the secret word:  
SupportMultipleDomain

http://blogs.technet.com/b/abizerh/archive/2013/02/06/supportmultipledomain-switch-when-managing-sso-to-office-365.aspx

rant
Office 365 is one of the most half-baked products Microsoft has ever 
released. They tried hard to get us to let consultants set up our federation, 
and after days of beating my head on the wall getting it going, I understand 
why: Microsoft doesn't document it very well, and most of the other stuff 
you'll find on the web is wrong (out of date).

Even the O365 portal links to the wrong version of DirSync - and to make 
matters even worse, it does link to the right version's release notes.
/rant


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeff S. Gottlieb
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:56 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] ADFS - MULTIPLE DOMAINS


We are using Server 2012, ADFS (DIR SYNC), controlling the attributes of o365. 
Does anyone have any experience as this applies to multiple domains?

MS claims to have documentation that was unsupportive of this scenario unless 2 
ADFS servers were used, as of 5/15/2013. When I asked if they could send the 
documentation, we were told it was internal. MS then turned around and said 
it was supported in ADFS v2, but later said this was largely untested  ...if 
it can be done, then the procedures are not clear. Microsoft documentation is 
like digging down the rabbit-hole! Agh!

-Jeff

Re: [NTSysADM] Tunnels dropping on FIOS

[Ryan Finnesey]

MTU size?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:00 PM, J- P 
jnat...@hotmail.commailto:jnat...@hotmail.com wrote:


So we moved into our new office, and made the jump from our 3.0  EOC pipe to a 
75 / 35 FIOS connection,

I have tested the speeds and its consistent, however, our L2TP VPN tunnels to 
our field offices drop constantly,
i'm LUCKY  if the tunnels stay up for 30 minutes, is there something special 
about FIOS that requires adjustments?

We've never had the privilege of being in FIOS serviceable area, so I really 
don't know where to start,

any pointers would be great

TIA


JP

RE: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel installation

[Ryan Finnesey]

You will want to confirm with your LAR but I think if you have an EA you can 
order the Enterprise CAL 

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:58 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
installation

I do believe it's Core CAL.

I shall have to verify that, though I'm betting we're not big enough for 
Enterprise CALs.

Pity...

Kurt

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
 I am a fan of Lync

 I think that Enterprise Voice is not part of the Core CAL it may be part of 
 the Enterprise CAL.  Witch CAL are you using with your EA?

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:18 PM
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
 installation

 That is an intriguing thought.

 Given that we have an EA, it might make a very case to argue for dropping 
 ShoreTel.

 I think I'll do a little research on this topic.

 Kurt

 On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 
 wrote:
 I run into this all the time for various Windows-based telephony and UM 
 systems. Cisco used to be this way also. Don't know if they still are. Two 
 of the other vendors I work with are.

 Lync has Enterprise Voice and it can be a complete replacement for a PBX, 
 given an appropriate gateway to the PSTN.

 Asterisk also has patching issues, don't let anyone fool you there... as far 
 as I have seen, Microsoft does this better than anyone else.

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:01 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
 installation

 All,

 We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.

 I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I moved it to 
 a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...

 However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.

 It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to get to 
 the current version of 13.2.

 I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled at 
 what they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from anyone here 
 regarding this.

 Here's what they want me to do:

 o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain, Public and 
 Private), then turn off and disable the service.
 o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
 o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
 o- Turn off UAC
 o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
   When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes 
 listing the Microsoft
   patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel also 
 highlights software
   changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no additional 
 Microsoft
   updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between 
 ShoreTel builds. If
   you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they may 
 have an adverse
   effect on your telephone system.
   Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed 
 certification provided with
   each release.


 If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you protect 
 your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that it's on?

 To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to reduce 
 the security of the server to near zero.

 Thoughts appreciated.

 Kurt

RE: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel installation

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am a fan of Lync  

I think that Enterprise Voice is not part of the Core CAL it may be part of the 
Enterprise CAL.  Witch CAL are you using with your EA?

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:18 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
installation

That is an intriguing thought.

Given that we have an EA, it might make a very case to argue for dropping 
ShoreTel.

I think I'll do a little research on this topic.

Kurt

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 I run into this all the time for various Windows-based telephony and UM 
 systems. Cisco used to be this way also. Don't know if they still are. Two of 
 the other vendors I work with are.

 Lync has Enterprise Voice and it can be a complete replacement for a PBX, 
 given an appropriate gateway to the PSTN.

 Asterisk also has patching issues, don't let anyone fool you there... as far 
 as I have seen, Microsoft does this better than anyone else.

 -Original Message-
 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:01 PM
 To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
 Subject: [NTSysADM] A little afield of the normal topic - ShoreTel 
 installation

 All,

 We are using ShoreTel for our phone solution. Works well.

 I have just recently upgraded from 10.2 to 11.2 to 12.3, after I moved it to 
 a new VLAN - that was a bit of a late night...

 However, it's running on an ancient SuperMicro server, on Server 2003 R2.

 It's time to move it to a new Dell machine, running 2008 R2, and to get to 
 the current version of 13.2.

 I've looked at the prerequisites for installing 12.3, and am appalled at what 
 they suggest, and was hoping for a bit of feedback from anyone here regarding 
 this.

 Here's what they want me to do:

 o- Turn off the firewall - disable all of the profiles (Domain, Public and 
 Private), then turn off and disable the service.
 o- Turn off the Base Filtering Engine (disable the service)
 o- Set DEP for essential Windows programs and services only
 o- Turn off UAC
 o- Do not apply patches released past a certain date, stating
   When releasing a new build, ShoreTel publishes build notes listing 
 the Microsoft
   patches that are certified against the build.  ShoreTel also 
 highlights software
   changes required by the Microsoft patches. Note that no additional 
 Microsoft
   updates should be applied to your ShoreWare server between ShoreTel 
 builds. If
   you install Microsoft updates between ShoreTel builds, they may 
 have an adverse
   effect on your telephone system.
   Disable Microsoft updates until you review the detailed 
 certification provided with
   each release.


 If you are running ShoreTel, have you run into this, and how do you protect 
 your ShoreTel environment, other than firewalling the subnet that it's on?

 To me, this seems like egregiously broken software, requiring me to reduce 
 the security of the server to near zero.

 Thoughts appreciated.

 Kurt

[NTSysADM] RE: Enterprise email-to-fax services

[Ryan Finnesey]

PCI requirements?  Are you sending credit card information?

Cheers
Ryan


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard McClary
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:44 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Enterprise email-to-fax services

Greetings!

We have been long-time users of Faxcore (appliance) for an email-to-fax gateway.


1.   All our faxes are outbound

2.   Between going to hosted MS Exchange and various PCI requirements, our 
mail routing has become more complicated than it was originally.  Email fax 
jobs must now leave our building and be routed back through our DMZ to reach 
the appliance.  (Then the attachments are rendered and sent over the fax lines, 
etc.)

This system works pretty well.  However, when we have an internet outage, the 
DMZ is unavailable, so faxes are not processed until internet services are 
restored.  (Faxcore then does a great job of dealing with the back log!)  We 
would also like to eliminate the DMZ and internal routing through our firewall.

Our main faxing is part of an automated records/reports system.  We send out 
150-200 faxes per day.  Although most of these are HTML reports, there are 
occasional Word or PDF attachments which bring the day's mail load to 50-100 Mb.

I know there are dozens of mail-to-fax services available.  Does anybody have 
direct experience with a service which can handle our current outbound traffic 
and load at an affordable rate?  (Again, 150 sends and up to 100 Mb total per 
day...)

Thanks!
--
richard



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RE: [NTSysADM] MS Re-Org -New T-shirt? �The frontie r of high-value scenarios we enable will march outward �

[Ryan Finnesey]

What are peoples thoughts?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:25 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] MS Re-Org -New T-shirt? “The frontier of high-value 
scenarios we enable will march outward”

http://allthingsd.com/20130711/heres-microsofts-strategy-essay-and-reorg-announcement-memos/



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RE: [NTSysADM] MS Re-Org -New T-shirt? The frontie r of high-value scenarios we enable will march outward

[Ryan Finnesey]

Who are the 2 let's see how this turns out leaders?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:42 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] MS Re-Org -New T-shirt? The frontie r of high-value 
scenarios we enable will march outward

I would be less ambivalent if they had 4 strong, seasoned execs at the head of 
those 4 new divisions, than with 2 strong leaders + 2 let's see how this 
turns out leaders.

Only time will tell...






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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
Paul has a couple good pieces on it, too...

Reorg announcement:  http://winsupersite.com/microsoft-announces-sweeping-reorg

Reorg explained:  http://winsupersite.com/mobile/microsoft-reorg-explained-0



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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:25 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] MS Re-Org -New T-shirt? The frontier of high-value 
scenarios we enable will march outward

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RE: [NTSysADM] WorkPlace Join?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yea that's what I am thinking I am going to have to do.  I pinged Microsoft and 
got two different answers

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] WorkPlace Join

Try it and see.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 11:59 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] WorkPlace Join?


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
WorkPlace Join

Perhaps what you are looking for falls under the topic/heading of Device 
Registration Service for Federation Server?  But, I also have not seen any 
info regarding your question.

--
Espi

[NTSysADM] WorkPlace Join?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Has anyone looked into WorkPlace Join in detail?   I can not seem to find much 
documentation.   I am trying to find out if a device can join more then one 
WorkPlace

Sent from my iPad

Re: [NTSysADM] TMG Proxy Replacement

[Ryan Finnesey]

+1

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 3, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Brian Desmond 
br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote:

If the requirement is simply an arbitrary policy, perhaps now is a good time to 
revisit that policy? It seems like this is adding no value other than checking 
a box.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Tanya Pinetti
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 2:50 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TMG Proxy Replacement

Brian,
That's pretty much it - just a forward proxy for servers in our data center per 
our IT policy.  Do you have any suggestions?

From: br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TMG Proxy Replacement
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:50:50 +
So what functional purpose(s) does this proxy serve other than to meet an 
arbitrary policy?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com

w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Tanya Pinetti
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:08 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] TMG Proxy Replacement

We brought up a new data center and need to configure a local proxy server so 
servers can access the internet.  We do not allow servers to have direct access 
to the internet.  Our other data center has TMG, but we don't have enough 
licenses and would like to explore a replacement for TMG.  I only need it for 
proxy purposes so something simply would be ideal.  Any suggestions?  I'm 
looking at UAG, but maybe there's something better our simpler out there.  
Thanks.

Re: [NTSysADM] E-mail retention

[Ryan Finnesey]

I find for most company's this is more of a legal question then IT.

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 2, 2013, at 12:06 PM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:

Given this:
http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/doc/recmgmt/train/erm/emailman806.pdf

Would it be the responsibility of the government entity to know the correct 
retention period for each message they receive? I'm trying to help a client 
determine how long e-mail should be kept, including the brick-level backups I 
have...
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was not knocking 8.1 I like it and it works really well.  But I found it very 
odd that it does not work with Office 365.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Steven Peck
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:57 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Whatever.  I installed it and guess what?  I am not having issues.  My Steam 
games run fine.  Browsing is pretty nice.  My Xbox music is slick and I like 
the Xbox Smart Glass.  I like the improvements I am seeing in it.  There is a 
FAQ and there are some tablet models to not install it on.

I also know a free MS FTEs that are installing it as well.  If it's too much of 
a risk for you, you can easily install it with dual boot to VHD from the ISO.

Happy with his 8.1 'preview'  (not having IE issues either.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:46 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

This article really deserves much more play in my mind. 
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-8/top-reasons-not-install-windows-81-preview-release

I was kind of surprised how many were flocking to download and install the 
preview the day it was released.

I bet a lot of them aren't aware of even the most basic points Rod makes here, 
let alone the aggregate. (until it's too late)

BTW-  Very nice job Rod. It should be packaged with the product as 
WIN81-preview-READMEFIRST and required reading before you can d/l

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:15 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Oh wow I did not know that.   It is working well other than some issue with IE. 
 I give Microsoft lots of credit

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:08 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Yeah...well...

http://windowsitpro.com/windows/difference-between-preview-and-beta-not-what-you-think

According to a MS person, Preview is not even Alpha.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:41 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

I am finding it is not working a lot of places I guess I am going to have to 
install chrome.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:22 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Classic.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum..commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:27 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Office 365 is not playing nice with IE 11

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Guyer, Don
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:42 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Ditto here on the internal stuff not working with IE10.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:31 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Maybe that's a better way to go, and I'll keep a list of sites that IE10 barfs 
on. Yesterday was a bad day just for being me (which is unusual as in general 
I'm a positive and optimistic dude). The things I know offhand that IE10 is 
unhappy with are mostly org-specific stuff, like our Meru wireless

RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am finding it is not working a lot of places I guess I am going to have to 
install chrome.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:22 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Classic.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 12:27 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Office 365 is not playing nice with IE 11

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Guyer, Don
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:42 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Ditto here on the internal stuff not working with IE10.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 
InfoService-Logo240]


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:31 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Maybe that's a better way to go, and I'll keep a list of sites that IE10 barfs 
on. Yesterday was a bad day just for being me (which is unusual as in general 
I'm a positive and optimistic dude). The things I know offhand that IE10 is 
unhappy with are mostly org-specific stuff, like our Meru wireless controller, 
our Java-based HR self-service app (www.kbace.comhttp://www.kbace.com), IBM 
blade center URL, etc. Also submitting a file to McAfee support 
(mysupport.mcafee.com) requires the F12 compatibility switch

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
 On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:07 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

I use Chrome for Facebook and Gmail and one personal site that doesn't work in 
IE. That's it.

IE 10 for everything else. No problems for me.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:36 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

Not sure why...but I don't have that problem.  Used Chrome for a long time 
until I realized just how badly it eats memory.  Just don't run with Chrome 
open all day long, and definitely don't keep multiple tabs running. Each tab 
spawns a completely new instance of Chrome.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:38 PM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.commailto:NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] IE10 finally did it..

I've finally had enough problems that I've installed Chrome. Too many sites I 
had to hit F12 and flip compatibility and other general weirdness. I saw a 
Redmond Magazine article stating IE10 blocks 99% of malware attacks, my comment 
is because it blocks 98% of the Internet!
http://redmondmag.com/articles/2013/06/25/ie-10-blocks-more-malware.aspx
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes at the build keynote.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Crawford, Scott 
crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote:

I know September/october seems to be the safe bet, but have you seen anything 
official regarding a release date?

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: 6/26/2013 9:42 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Yes, Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade and will be available around October. For 
those already running Windows 8 when it releases, it will be available from the 
Windows app store.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Jon Harris
Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?June? ?26?, ?2013 ?9?:?50? ?PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

I have a client that is upgrading (replacing the drive so it will not be a real 
upgrade) his machine from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 8 Pro.  I got a great 
deal on a full copy of Windows 8 Pro for him.  The drive is about to be 
ordered.  The question is from what I have been told at the Orlando Microsoft 
Store front those people running Windows 8 (RT, Pro, Phone) will be getting the 
new Windows 8.1 when it is released.  I would like to confirm this and find out 
if this will come by way of a download using Windows Update or what?

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks a lot!

Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been very happy with 8.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:35 AM, Richard Stovall 
rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote:

Until he actually starts using Windows 8, that is...

;)


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
Thank you!  I think my client will be very happy then.


From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:40:35 +

Yes, Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade and will be available around October. For 
those already running Windows 8 when it releases, it will be available from the 
Windows app store.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Jon Harris
Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?June? ?26?, ?2013 ?9?:?50? ?PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

I have a client that is upgrading (replacing the drive so it will not be a real 
upgrade) his machine from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 8 Pro.  I got a great 
deal on a full copy of Windows 8 Pro for him.  The drive is about to be 
ordered.  The question is from what I have been told at the Orlando Microsoft 
Store front those people running Windows 8 (RT, Pro, Phone) will be getting the 
new Windows 8.1 when it is released.  I would like to confirm this and find out 
if this will come by way of a download using Windows Update or what?

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks a lot!

Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

[Ryan Finnesey]

At that price I am going to order one.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

I've seen a couple for around $200, but they were small (22 inch).


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:06 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

I've seen those too.  I had thought about getting one, but they are kind of 
pricey for something I don't really need/want.
Reminds me of why I migrated from PC to console gaming...I got tired of having 
to buy new hardware every time new software came out.


 - WJR

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
After attending TechEd NA this year and playing with the Viewsonic 
touchscreens, I'm actually looking at replacing one of my four desktop monitors 
with one.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:58 AM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

It does boot quickly, especially on SSD.  And there is a certain amount of 
truth about using Win8 before you can like it.
I use it and WS2012 in my lab for my cert testing, but day to day I still use 
W7 as that's what we support at $work.  The effect of having one foot in each 
OS daily is that I never quite get over some of the annoyances of W8, most 
specifically anytime I need to restart.  It is without a doubt designed for a 
touchscreen.  Which none of my desktops have.
That's my two cents worth.


 - WJR

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
That means you haven't used it enough. :)

I use it across all my computers. My primary computer is a beefy Dell 
mini-tower with 4 monitors, capable of running a bunch of VMs. I never, ever 
see the new Windows Metro interface unless I choose to.  Works great as a 
desktop OS. The boot times is what sold it for me on my primary setup.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:12 AM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

I'm not so sold on it desktop-wise, but that's just my humble opinion
Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sender: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:03:49 -0400
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
ReplyTo: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Windows 8 is great for both desktop and touch.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:33 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Until he actually starts using Windows 8, that is...

;)

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
Thank you!  I think my client will be very happy then.


From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:40:35 +
Yes, Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade and will be available around October. For 
those already running Windows 8 when it releases, it will be available from the 
Windows app store.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Jon Harris
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:50 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

I have a client that is upgrading (replacing the drive so it will not be a real 
upgrade) his machine from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 8 Pro.  I got a great 
deal on a full copy of Windows 8 Pro for him.  The drive is about to be 
ordered.  The question is from what I have been told at the Orlando Microsoft 
Store front those people running Windows 8 (RT, Pro, Phone) will be getting the 
new Windows 8.1 when it is released.  I would like to confirm this and find out 
if this will come by way of a download using Windows Update or what?

RE: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

[Ryan Finnesey]

Awesome thank you.  Just ordered two Viewsonics.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:28 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Here's the cheapest one I've found:

http://amzn.to/11LxkNs

But, the Viewsonic is really nice:

http://amzn.to/11LxrbO

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:14 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

At that price I am going to order one.

Sent from my iPad mini

On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
I've seen a couple for around $200, but they were small (22 inch).


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:06 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

I've seen those too.  I had thought about getting one, but they are kind of 
pricey for something I don't really need/want.
Reminds me of why I migrated from PC to console gaming...I got tired of having 
to buy new hardware every time new software came out.


 - WJR

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
After attending TechEd NA this year and playing with the Viewsonic 
touchscreens, I'm actually looking at replacing one of my four desktop monitors 
with one.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:58 AM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

It does boot quickly, especially on SSD.  And there is a certain amount of 
truth about using Win8 before you can like it.
I use it and WS2012 in my lab for my cert testing, but day to day I still use 
W7 as that's what we support at $work.  The effect of having one foot in each 
OS daily is that I never quite get over some of the annoyances of W8, most 
specifically anytime I need to restart.  It is without a doubt designed for a 
touchscreen.  Which none of my desktops have.
That's my two cents worth.


 - WJR

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Rod Trent 
rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
That means you haven't used it enough. :)

I use it across all my computers. My primary computer is a beefy Dell 
mini-tower with 4 monitors, capable of running a bunch of VMs. I never, ever 
see the new Windows Metro interface unless I choose to.  Works great as a 
desktop OS. The boot times is what sold it for me on my primary setup.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:12 AM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

I'm not so sold on it desktop-wise, but that's just my humble opinion
Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sender: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:03:49 -0400
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
ReplyTo: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Windows 8 is great for both desktop and touch.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:33 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question

Until he actually starts using Windows 8, that is...

;)

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
Thank you!  I think my client will be very happy then.


From: rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] General Windows 8 question
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:40:35 +
Yes, Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade and will be available around October. For 
those already running Windows 8 when it releases, it will be available from the 
Windows app store.

Sent from

[NTSysADM] RE: Submit e-mail anonymously

[Ryan Finnesey]

I remember back when I got on the internet for the first time in the days of 
gopher there was an anonymous re-mailer run out of Finland.  I do not know if 
it is still around.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of David Lum
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:05 PM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Submit e-mail anonymously

We have a desire to have employees send all-staff questions to 
thisaddr...@nwea.orgmailto:thisaddr...@nwea.org but have the sender be 
anonymous. We currently use surveymonkey but I have been asked if it's feasible 
to just tell our employees to send an e-mail and have it arrive at a mailbox 
anonymously.  The only think I can think of is having an intermediate mail 
account that forwards but strips the original header.

Wow, I guess I'm asking how SPAM works...
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

I feel the laws will be updated and the regulatory requirements will change.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other 
requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will 
private cloud gear count as part of the cloud concept?

On the MS front, someone sent me this article today - from a while back but 
still fascinating reading 
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer#/1



On 4 June 2013 14:34, rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
wrote:
The new mantra is Cloud First, which means all development has shifted to 
provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after.  In less than 2 
years, due to Microsoft's dev shift and due to IT no longer being able to keep 
up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, a subscription model 
(Cloud) will be the only way to go.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:27 AM
To: ntsysadm

The focus is on cloud integration...














ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for the 
SMB market...








On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Nothing I can say.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

What are your thoughts?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers


Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-716224/







--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.ukhttp://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/

[NTSysADM] RE: Advice re Document Management Systems

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been very happy with SharePoint.  You also have the flexibility of 
Office 365 or on premise


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:46 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Advice re Document Management Systems


Hi all

I am currently looking at a number of products and would welcome anyone's 
feedback and/or experience using the following products:

Canon Therefore
Alfresco
Sharepoint 2010/13

We're still not sure whether to go for an on-premise or cloud solution. Since 
we're a small company with around 25 users, going for a Cloud solution would 
make more sense, financially.

TIA
Pierre

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

I see Blue is up on TechNet.  I am downloading it now.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:23 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

The government is already harvesting it via the telcos... :) This just 
helps with their data integrity verification...






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Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for the 
SMB market...




On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:39 AM, John Matteson 
john.matte...@gmail.commailto:john.matte...@gmail.com wrote:
So the government can harvest it for intelligence purposes. After all, it's 
only your business records, health records, emails, business plans, blueprints, 
BI, all the stuff needed to run your business, or your private life. Nothing 
really important, right?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 4:13 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

I feel the laws will be updated and the regulatory requirements will change.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other 
requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will 
private cloud gear count as part of the cloud concept?

On the MS front, someone sent me this article today - from a while back but 
still fascinating reading 
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer#/1



On 4 June 2013 14:34, rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
wrote:
The new mantra is Cloud First, which means all development has shifted to 
provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after.  In less than 2 
years, due to Microsoft's dev shift and due to IT no longer being able to keep 
up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, a subscription model 
(Cloud) will be the only way to go.

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

From: Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:27 AM
To: ntsysadm

The focus is on cloud integration...














ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for the 
SMB market...








On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Nothing I can say.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

What are your thoughts?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers


Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-716224/







--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.ukhttp://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/

Re: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Did they have much to say about XenDesktop/XenApp on Azure and or EC2?

Sent from my iPad mini

On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Webster 
webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:


XenServer is still very much alive.  It appears that XS is being repositioned 
for cloud stuff.  There was nothing, that I remember, mentioning XS at 
Synergy or during any of our CTP meetings.  XS, both open source Xen and the 
commercial product, are VERY much alive in the Cloud provider space.  4 of the 
5 largest Clouds run on Xen or XS.  The 5th is Azure and that of course runs on 
Hyper-V.





Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] on 
behalf of Damien Solodow 
[damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:01 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?

So they're also getting rid of XenServer?
If so I'll be pretty glad as it's really annoying.

Since I didn't hit Synergy, is there a good place to get the info on what they 
killed off?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Webster
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:57 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?


Yes, that is one of many products and technologies that have been killed by 
Citrix this year.



Use App-V



XenDesktop 7 ref architecture uses Hyper-V 3 and not XenServer!





Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] on 
behalf of Damien Solodow 
[damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:00 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?
Thanks.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?

See here

http://searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com/news/2240184559/Citrix-kills-its-Application-Streaming-feature-directs-users-to-App-V

On 10 June 2013 17:14, kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:
Yep, I think that is definitely official - it came out of Synergy.

App-V is w better anyway
Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

From: Damien Solodow 
damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu
Sender: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:07:11 +
To: 
ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.comntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
ReplyTo: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Citrix Profiler deprecation?

I heard recently that Citrix is deprecating/moving away from their Streaming 
Profiler app packaging in favor of using App-V.
However I'm not seeing anything official on this; anyone else heard this or 
have insight?

I know the last update to Streaming Profiler and associated software is almost 
a year ago but with Citrix that doesn't mean much.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033tel:317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014tel:317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/




--
James Rankin
Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

[Ryan Finnesey]

I think this is what I am going to order 
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-3444-14in-Core-i7-3667U-Windows-8-Pro-64-bit/2907285.aspx?enkwrd=ALLPROD%3a%7c3444CUU%7cAll%20Product%20Catalog


Sent from my iPad

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

Very dated.  An i5 will handle hardware assisted virtualization without 
problems.






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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Jon Harris 
jk.har...@live.commailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote:
/very dated possible answer

Last time I looked i5 would not allow virtual machines.

very dated possible answer/

Jon

 From: mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org

 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: ThinkPad X1 Carbon
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:07:21 -0700


 failure to resist

 Yes, about $300.

 /failure to resist


 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Finnesey
 [mailto:r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com]
 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
 [mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com]
 Sent: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:46:11
 -0800
 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: ThinkPad X1 Carbon


  The i7 proc makes a large difference?
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Cameron Cooper 
  ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com wrote:
 
   i7 proc
 
 
 

[NTSysADM] ThinkPad X1 Carbon

[Ryan Finnesey]

Anyone have an ThinkPad X1 Carbon?  How do you like it?  I need to get a new 
laptop and I think that may be the winner.  

Sent from my iPad mini

Re: [NTSysADM] Remote desktop licensing questions

[Ryan Finnesey]

I will check when I am back Friday

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Tom Miller 
tominyorkt...@gmail.commailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com wrote:

Do you have your 2012 server configured as per-user or per-device?  On 2008 R2 
and prior you have to select, and whoever did it before me didn't understand.  
So now servers that have user CALS are not issuing those CALS and I have to 
move them to per-user defined servers.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
I have setup a 2012 RDS box and am using both users CALs and Device CALs.  I 
just had to enter my agreement number.  I am not 100% if we are within 
compliance but it is working at the technical level

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:06 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Remote desktop licensing questions

You are going to need to sit down and figure out which is best for the 
company/individual servers.  The last time I checked on this you could not use 
both per user and per device on the same server.  You could mix the two 
depending on the needs of the company just not on the same machine.  I ended 
up when I retired our 2003 servers having to purchase 2008 licenses (EDU 
contract so depending on your contract maybe you can just transfer your 2003 to 
2008 but I kind of doubt it).  Then you need to determine how many licenses you 
will need for each.  FYI in my case I went with per user as some of the users 
had multiple machines off and on.  The price was the same though for both.

Jon

Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:55:58 -0400
Subject: [NTSysADM] Remote desktop licensing questions
From: tominyorkt...@gmail.commailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com
To: NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.commailto:NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Hi Folks,

In my last job we had per-user terminal server/remote desktop licensing.  At my 
current job they use 2003 per-user licenses for staff and 2003/2008 per-device 
licenses for machinery equipment.  From what I can tell there was not any 
planning involved with license design.  Here's what I see:

Several 2008 R2 servers with per-user and per-device licenses installed.  These 
servers are in per-device mode.

GPO is not used for licensing.  Servers are not uniformly configured for 
licensing.

I can fix all of this with a GPO.  My questions are these:
- for servers in per-device mode, are the per-user licenses of any value or 
just wasted?
- I need to have different license servers for per-user and per-device, 
correct?  In doing this, should I have one GPO for per-device license servers, 
and another for per-user servers?

Thanks

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

Understandable

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Michael B. Smithmailto:mich...@smithcons.com
Sent: ‎6/‎3/‎2013 10:49 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

Nothing I can say.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

What are your thoughts?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers


Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-716224/