Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Quette

2007/1/12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Greetings:

I've been following through the instructions on how to connect an APC
BackUPS 650 ES to USB, and have it monitored with NUT...

I know my system can SEE the UPS, as DMESG shows this:

hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [APC Back-UPS ES 650 FW:818.w1.D USB FW:w1]
on usb-:00:04.2-1
usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver

I can see an entry in /dev/usb called hiddev0

I have updated my ups.conf file as follows:

[apc]
driver = newhidups
port = /dev/usb/hiddev0
desc = APC Back-UPS ES 650

Note, that port used to be set to auto, but in deperation, I hardcoded it..

I'm running kernel version 2.6.17.3, and have libusb-0.1.so.4.4.0
libraries installed.

I cannot see anything in /proc/bus/usb.


depending upon your system, this might sit in /dev/bus/usb
just check, using the mount command that you have something like:
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)


When I try to run newhidups, I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4# ./drivers/newhidups -a apc -u root
/dev/usb/hiddev0
Network UPS Tools: New USB/HID UPS driver 0.28 (2.0.4)

No matching USB/HID UPS found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4# ./drivers/newhidups -a apc -u root
Network UPS Tools: New USB/HID UPS driver 0.28 (2.0.4)

No matching USB/HID UPS found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4#

Can anyone suggest a course of action I can take?..


this should be due to the fact that you have not set the hotplug or udev rules.
check the nut/scripts/hotplug*/README for more information.
These scripts are there to set the right permissions on the dev file
upon {cold,hot}plugging.

finally note that newhidups is the way to go since it will fully
replace hidups by nut 2.2

Arnaud
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread Arjen de Korte
 I've been following through the instructions on how to connect an APC
 BackUPS 650 ES to USB, and have it monitored with NUT...

[...]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4# ./drivers/newhidups -a apc -u root
 Network UPS Tools: New USB/HID UPS driver 0.28 (2.0.4)

 No matching USB/HID UPS found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4#

 Can anyone suggest a course of action I can take?..

 this should be due to the fact that you have not set the hotplug or udev
 rules.

Not very likely. He's running the driver as root, so this looks more like
what was reported on the Bugs Tracker for an APC Back-Ups ES725:

http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?func=detailatid=411542aid=304333group_id=30602

Solution is to upgrade to nut-2.0.5-pre2.

Best regards, Arjen
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread George Ross
 I've been following through the instructions on how to connect an APC
 BackUPS 650 ES to USB, and have it monitored with NUT...
 I'm running kernel version 2.6.17.3, and have libusb-0.1.so.4.4.0
 libraries installed.

FWIW we have found our 2.6.17 systems to be unstable when connected to APC 
SmartUPS boxes over USB.  The same combinations are quite happy to run with 
USB-serial dongles and apcsmart -a ttyUSB0.  We haven't had time to 
investigate...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4# ./drivers/newhidups -a apc -u root
 Network UPS Tools: New USB/HID UPS driver 0.28 (2.0.4)
 
 No matching USB/HID UPS found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4#
 
 Can anyone suggest a course of action I can take?

Crank up the -D level and/or run it under strace?
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Quette

2007/1/12, Arjen de Korte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've been following through the instructions on how to connect an APC
 BackUPS 650 ES to USB, and have it monitored with NUT...

[...]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4# ./drivers/newhidups -a apc -u root
 Network UPS Tools: New USB/HID UPS driver 0.28 (2.0.4)

 No matching USB/HID UPS found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.4#

 Can anyone suggest a course of action I can take?..

 this should be due to the fact that you have not set the hotplug or udev
 rules.

Not very likely. He's running the driver as root, so this looks more like
what was reported on the Bugs Tracker for an APC Back-Ups ES725:

http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?func=detailatid=411542aid=304333group_id=30602

Solution is to upgrade to nut-2.0.5-pre2.


right, I've missed that one. thanks Arjen.
btw, the final 2.0.5 will be out either this afternoon, or on monday.

Arnaud
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread richard
 Solution is to upgrade to nut-2.0.5-pre2.

 right, I've missed that one. thanks Arjen.
 btw, the final 2.0.5 will be out either this afternoon, or on monday.

Greetings:

I've been reading this page in configuring my BackUPS 650ES:

http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/ups/backups.html

I get the same results using 2.0.5-pre2 as I was with 2.0.4 when I get to
this stage:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2# ./drivers/newhidups -u root -DD -a
apc
Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30
(2.0.5-pre2)

debug level is '2'
No appropriate HID device found
No matching HID UPS found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2#

When I use hidups, I get results, although they're odd, but at least my
UPS is recognized...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2# ./drivers/hidups -u root -DD -a apc
Network UPS Tools: HID UPS driver 0.13 (2.0.5-pre2)

Warning: This is an experimental driver.
Some features may not function correctly.

debug level is '2'
Detected APC Back-UPS ES 650 FW:818.w1.D USB FW:w1
on port /dev/usb/hiddev0
addhidvalue(850066, battery.charge): obtained 100
addhidvalue(850068, battery.runtime): obtained 1005
addhidvalue(840035, ups.load): obtained 35
Ignoring x86 page event 0xff860060 (8)
Ignoring x86 page event 0xff860060 (8)

IS the full release of 2.0.5 likely to solve the issues I'm having with
newhidups?..

Thanks,
Richard.




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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Selinger
Hi Richard,

This is bizarre. Using -DD, you should get more output between debug
level is '2' and No appropriate HID device found. You should at
least get something like:

debug level is '2'
Checking device (/) (005/001)
- VendorID: 
- ProductID: 
- Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 uhci_hcd
- Product: UHCI Host Controller
- Serial Number: :00:1d.3
- Bus: 005
Trying to match device
Device does not match - skipping



It looks like in your setup, newhidups (and therefore libusb) is
seeing no USB devices at all, never mind your UPS.

Could you refresh my memory about your operating system, kernel
version, libusb version, and contents of ls -lR /proc/bus/usb?
Perhaps you need to mount your USB filesystem.
Does mount show a line such as the following?

usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

If not, try mount -t usbfs usbfs /proc/bus/usb

-- Peter 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Solution is to upgrade to nut-2.0.5-pre2.
 
  right, I've missed that one. thanks Arjen.
  btw, the final 2.0.5 will be out either this afternoon, or on monday.
 
 Greetings:
 
 I've been reading this page in configuring my BackUPS 650ES:
 
 http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/ups/backups.html
 
 I get the same results using 2.0.5-pre2 as I was with 2.0.4 when I get to
 this stage:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2# ./drivers/newhidups -u root -DD -a
 apc
 Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30
 (2.0.5-pre2)
 
 debug level is '2'
 No appropriate HID device found
 No matching HID UPS found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2#
 
 When I use hidups, I get results, although they're odd, but at least my
 UPS is recognized...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/nut-2.0.5-pre2# ./drivers/hidups -u root -DD -a apc
 Network UPS Tools: HID UPS driver 0.13 (2.0.5-pre2)
 
 Warning: This is an experimental driver.
 Some features may not function correctly.
 
 debug level is '2'
 Detected APC Back-UPS ES 650 FW:818.w1.D USB FW:w1
 on port /dev/usb/hiddev0
 addhidvalue(850066, battery.charge): obtained 100
 addhidvalue(850068, battery.runtime): obtained 1005
 addhidvalue(840035, ups.load): obtained 35
 Ignoring x86 page event 0xff860060 (8)
 Ignoring x86 page event 0xff860060 (8)
 
 IS the full release of 2.0.5 likely to solve the issues I'm having with
 newhidups?..
 
 Thanks,
 Richard.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] APC Question...

2007-01-12 Thread richard
 Could you refresh my memory about your operating system, kernel
 version, libusb version, and contents of ls -lR /proc/bus/usb?
 Perhaps you need to mount your USB filesystem.
 Does mount show a line such as the following?

 usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

Hiya!

This did the trick!! USBFS is not something I'm familiar with, or have
ever used, but as soon as I mounted that directory, the UPS was found by
newhidups, and I received all kinds of output from it, so I think that is
the problem..

Thanks everyone for their assistance in solving this problem...

Regards,
Richard.



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