Re: [nysbirds-l] Long Island Geese (Suffolk)

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
"The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further complicates 
matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look carefully and 
cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document these birds 
when the opportunity presents itself."


I agree with the above statement and reiterate that reports of such candidates 
be shared with the birding community as promptly as possible to encourage 
others to get involved with such studies.

Cheers,

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林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
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> On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Derek Rogers  wrote:
> 
> The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
> being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further 
> complicates matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look 
> carefully and cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document 
> these birds when the opportunity presents itself. 

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[nysbirds-l] Long Island Geese (Suffolk)

2015-11-28 Thread Derek Rogers
While overall numbers aren’t huge there seem to be some interesting geese 
within Suffolk County this past week. 

Adding to the already reported birds of interest, today there were two adult 
GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE on Belmont Lake in North Babylon (Suffolk), despite 
an overall low number of Canada Geese. I took a ride up through St. Charles 
Cemetery and some of the nearby ball fields but came up empty. 

Yesterday there were two CACKLING GEESE on Centerport Pond in Centerport. Both 
birds appeared to be classic Richardson’s. 

Prior to my  Centerport Pond visit I stopped by Millers Pond in Smithtown where 
I recorded at least 31 collared birds all part of the West Greenland Canada 
Goose banding program. Millers Pond has proven to be one of the favored 
migratory stopovers for the vast majority of birds collared in this program. 

Of great interest to me was Michael McBrien’s post describing the four 
interesting Cackling Geese he observed on Riley Avenue in Calverton. The 
description of Michael’s birds strongly fit a Cackling-type goose I observed 
and photographed on November 22nd at Hecksher State Park. It appeared as 
anything but a typical Richardson’s goose and aspects of the bird seem to 
support Taverner’s Cackling Goose (B. h. tavernerii), one of the four 
recognized subspecies of Cackling Goose of Alaskan origins that spends it’s 
winters in Washington and Oregon (currently thought to be very rare east of the 
Rockies). I solicited some feedback from an avid west coast goose observer who 
agrees that the Hecksher bird looks good for Taverner’s. This is encouraging 
but the reality is that this bird’s origins will likely never be pinned down. 

The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further complicates 
matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look carefully and 
cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document these birds 
when the opportunity presents itself. 

Here is a link to some photographs of today’s white-fronts and the 11/22 
Cackling Goose:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/39025168@N07/ 


R.I.P. Ross’s Goose

Best,
Derek Rogers
Sayville
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[nysbirds-l] Riverhead LI, Ross's Goose whacked...

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
Big year listers, you might want to hold off on a Ross's Goose twitch.

Apparently, the Riverhead Ross's Goose met its demise earlier today courtesy of 
a shotgun blast.  I think folks on the scene were trying to put out an update 
to the list serves but it never came through.

While the loss of any bird is tragic. The Ross's Goose is a tough one since it 
is not common for us. 

Hunters doing their thing though, so don't hate.

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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Posting for Gail Benson--Tundra Swans at Hook Pond East Hampton

2015-11-28 Thread Michael Zito
2 tundra swans along with 3 greater white-fronted geese right now at the pond. 
Recommend a scope.

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> On Nov 27, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] 
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> You will forgive me for any duplication if Gail's post comes through later.
> 
> Apparently, she might be having an issue posting from the field so I am 
> re-posting for her.
> 
> "Four Tundra Swans continue at the south end of Hook Pond in East Hampton.  
> Gail Benson & Tom Burke."
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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[nysbirds-l] Pink - footed Goose-Riverhead

2015-11-28 Thread tomster101

Pink - footed Goose seen north of Sound Ave on Penny's Rd Riverhead at 9:35 
until the flock of about 600 was put in the air by farm equipment. Birds flew 
to the south.

Tom Moran
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[nysbirds-l] Fwd: NYC Area RBA: 27 November 2015

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
Forwarding for Gail Benson -- please see below.

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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Begin forwarded message:

> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gail Benson 
> Date: Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:52 PM
> Subject: NYC Area RBA: 27 November 2015
> To: nysbirds-l , Gail Benson 
> 
> 
> -RBA
> * New York
> * New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
> * Nov. 27, 2015
> * NYNY1511.27
> 
> - Birds Mentioned
> 
> PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
> BARNACLE GOOSE+
> WHITE-WINGED DOVE+
> “WESTERN” FLYCATCHER+
> (+ Details requested by NYSARC)
> 
> GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE
> ROSS’S GOOSE
> Cackling Goose 
> TUNDRA SWAN
> Eurasian Wigeon
> AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN
> Western Sandpiper
> Long-billed Dowitcher
> DOVEKIE 
> Black-legged Kittiwake
> SABINE’S GULL
> Bonaparte’s Gull
> BLACK-HEADED GULL
> Red-headed Woodpecker
> Great Crested Flycatcher
> Orange-crowned Warbler
> ‘AUDUBON’S” YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER 
> 
> If followed by (+) please submit documentation of your report electronically 
> and use the NYSARC online submission form found at 
> http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/goodreport.htm
> 
> You can also send reports and digital image files via email to 
> nysarc44nybirdsorg
> 
> If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or 
> sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:
> 
> Gary Chapin - Secretary
> NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
> 125 Pine Springs Drive
> Ticonderoga, NY 12883
> 
> Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
> Number: (212) 979-3070
> 
> Compiler: Tom Burke, Tony Lauro
> Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
> 
> Transcriber:  Gail Benson
> 
> [~BEGIN RBA TAPE~]
> 
> Greetings! This is the New York Rare Bird Alert for Friday, November 27, 2015 
> at 8:00 pm.
> 
> The highlights of today’s tape are “WESTERN” FLYCATCHER, SABINE’S GULL, 
> AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN, WHITE-WINGED DOVE, DOVEKIE, PINK-FOOTED, BARNACLE, 
> ROSS’S and GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE, BLACK-HEADED GULL, TUNDRA SWAN, 
> “AUDUBON’S” YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER and more.
> 
> Of the two unidentified Flycatchers in Central Park last Friday, the 
> Myiarchus was confirmed as a late GREAT-CRESTED FLYCATCHER, but the Empidonax 
> was indeed a great one, a “WESTERN” complex FLYCATCHER, either a PACIFIC 
> SLOPE OR CORDILLERAN FLYCATCHER.  However, as these two very closely related 
> and almost identical species are extremely difficult to separate away from 
> their breeding ranges, the exact specific identity of the Central Park bird 
> may not be determinable.  New York’s only previous record of this complex, 
> from Fire Island in 1995, was netted and measured but unfortunately not 
> sufficiently to confirm either species.  The Central Park “Western” was seen 
> nicely Saturday and Sunday, and also on Monday, with calls recorded and even 
> some droppings collected, so on-going analysis might provide some more 
> specific evidence, though some folks do question whether these two actually 
> deserve separate species ranking.
> 
> Other exciting birds this week included an adult SABINE’S GULL Sunday moving 
> east offshore passed Dolphin Lane off Dune Road west of Shinnecock Inlet – 
> this bird couldn’t be later relocated.  
> 
> An AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN on the East Pond at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge up 
> to Saturday morning was joined by a 2nd Pelican as of mid-day Saturday, and 
> both have continued there at the north end of the pond.  Interestingly, at 8 
> am Saturday morning a Pelican was spotted flying west by Sherwood Island on 
> the Connecticut coast, presumably the bird winding up at Jamaica Bay.
> 
> A WHITE-WINGED DOVE was spotted around the northwest side of the capped 
> landfill at Pelham Bay Park in the Bronx on Monday but could not be found 
> Tuesday.  
> 
> On Wednesday, a DOVEKIE was reported flying east passed the Montauk harbor 
> inlet.
> 
> A nice selection of Geese this week featured a PINK-FOOTED GOOSE found in 
> Riverhead Thursday on the east side of Route 105 north of the Northville 
> Turnpike and south of Sound Avenue, but it was not seen there today.  
> 
> Also north of Riverhead on Thursday and today a ROSS’S GOOSE was present off 
> Reeves Avenue just west of Roanoke Avenue and the Buffalo farm, this most 
> likely the same Ross’s spotted Tuesday off Oakleigh Avenue north of Sound 
> Avenue in Calverton.
> 
> A BARNACLE GOOSE was still visiting Marratooka Lake off New Suffolk Avenue in 
> Mattituck last Saturday, presumably the same one present Tuesday on a field 
> off Alvah’s Lane in Cutchogue.  
> 
> A GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE was on Short’s Pond off Scuttle Hole Road in 
> Watermilll Wednesday, and a few CACKLING GEESE have 

[nysbirds-l] Fwd: NYC Area RBA: 27 November 2015

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
Forwarding for Gail Benson -- please see below.

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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> (") _ (") 
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Begin forwarded message:

> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gail Benson 
> Date: Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:52 PM
> Subject: NYC Area RBA: 27 November 2015
> To: nysbirds-l , Gail Benson 
> 
> 
> -RBA
> * New York
> * New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
> * Nov. 27, 2015
> * NYNY1511.27
> 
> - Birds Mentioned
> 
> PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
> BARNACLE GOOSE+
> WHITE-WINGED DOVE+
> “WESTERN” FLYCATCHER+
> (+ Details requested by NYSARC)
> 
> GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE
> ROSS’S GOOSE
> Cackling Goose 
> TUNDRA SWAN
> Eurasian Wigeon
> AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN
> Western Sandpiper
> Long-billed Dowitcher
> DOVEKIE 
> Black-legged Kittiwake
> SABINE’S GULL
> Bonaparte’s Gull
> BLACK-HEADED GULL
> Red-headed Woodpecker
> Great Crested Flycatcher
> Orange-crowned Warbler
> ‘AUDUBON’S” YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER 
> 
> If followed by (+) please submit documentation of your report electronically 
> and use the NYSARC online submission form found at 
> http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/goodreport.htm
> 
> You can also send reports and digital image files via email to 
> nysarc44nybirdsorg
> 
> If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or 
> sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:
> 
> Gary Chapin - Secretary
> NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
> 125 Pine Springs Drive
> Ticonderoga, NY 12883
> 
> Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
> Number: (212) 979-3070
> 
> Compiler: Tom Burke, Tony Lauro
> Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
> 
> Transcriber:  Gail Benson
> 
> [~BEGIN RBA TAPE~]
> 
> Greetings! This is the New York Rare Bird Alert for Friday, November 27, 2015 
> at 8:00 pm.
> 
> The highlights of today’s tape are “WESTERN” FLYCATCHER, SABINE’S GULL, 
> AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN, WHITE-WINGED DOVE, DOVEKIE, PINK-FOOTED, BARNACLE, 
> ROSS’S and GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE, BLACK-HEADED GULL, TUNDRA SWAN, 
> “AUDUBON’S” YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER and more.
> 
> Of the two unidentified Flycatchers in Central Park last Friday, the 
> Myiarchus was confirmed as a late GREAT-CRESTED FLYCATCHER, but the Empidonax 
> was indeed a great one, a “WESTERN” complex FLYCATCHER, either a PACIFIC 
> SLOPE OR CORDILLERAN FLYCATCHER.  However, as these two very closely related 
> and almost identical species are extremely difficult to separate away from 
> their breeding ranges, the exact specific identity of the Central Park bird 
> may not be determinable.  New York’s only previous record of this complex, 
> from Fire Island in 1995, was netted and measured but unfortunately not 
> sufficiently to confirm either species.  The Central Park “Western” was seen 
> nicely Saturday and Sunday, and also on Monday, with calls recorded and even 
> some droppings collected, so on-going analysis might provide some more 
> specific evidence, though some folks do question whether these two actually 
> deserve separate species ranking.
> 
> Other exciting birds this week included an adult SABINE’S GULL Sunday moving 
> east offshore passed Dolphin Lane off Dune Road west of Shinnecock Inlet – 
> this bird couldn’t be later relocated.  
> 
> An AMERICAN WHITE PELICAN on the East Pond at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge up 
> to Saturday morning was joined by a 2nd Pelican as of mid-day Saturday, and 
> both have continued there at the north end of the pond.  Interestingly, at 8 
> am Saturday morning a Pelican was spotted flying west by Sherwood Island on 
> the Connecticut coast, presumably the bird winding up at Jamaica Bay.
> 
> A WHITE-WINGED DOVE was spotted around the northwest side of the capped 
> landfill at Pelham Bay Park in the Bronx on Monday but could not be found 
> Tuesday.  
> 
> On Wednesday, a DOVEKIE was reported flying east passed the Montauk harbor 
> inlet.
> 
> A nice selection of Geese this week featured a PINK-FOOTED GOOSE found in 
> Riverhead Thursday on the east side of Route 105 north of the Northville 
> Turnpike and south of Sound Avenue, but it was not seen there today.  
> 
> Also north of Riverhead on Thursday and today a ROSS’S GOOSE was present off 
> Reeves Avenue just west of Roanoke Avenue and the Buffalo farm, this most 
> likely the same Ross’s spotted Tuesday off Oakleigh Avenue north of Sound 
> Avenue in Calverton.
> 
> A BARNACLE GOOSE was still visiting Marratooka Lake off New Suffolk Avenue in 
> Mattituck last Saturday, presumably the same one present Tuesday on a field 
> off Alvah’s Lane in Cutchogue.  
> 
> A GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE was on Short’s Pond off Scuttle 

[nysbirds-l] Pink - footed Goose-Riverhead

2015-11-28 Thread tomster101

Pink - footed Goose seen north of Sound Ave on Penny's Rd Riverhead at 9:35 
until the flock of about 600 was put in the air by farm equipment. Birds flew 
to the south.

Tom Moran
Shoreham

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[nysbirds-l] Riverhead LI, Ross's Goose whacked...

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
Big year listers, you might want to hold off on a Ross's Goose twitch.

Apparently, the Riverhead Ross's Goose met its demise earlier today courtesy of 
a shotgun blast.  I think folks on the scene were trying to put out an update 
to the list serves but it never came through.

While the loss of any bird is tragic. The Ross's Goose is a tough one since it 
is not common for us. 

Hunters doing their thing though, so don't hate.

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林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Long Island Geese (Suffolk)

2015-11-28 Thread Derek Rogers
While overall numbers aren’t huge there seem to be some interesting geese 
within Suffolk County this past week. 

Adding to the already reported birds of interest, today there were two adult 
GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE on Belmont Lake in North Babylon (Suffolk), despite 
an overall low number of Canada Geese. I took a ride up through St. Charles 
Cemetery and some of the nearby ball fields but came up empty. 

Yesterday there were two CACKLING GEESE on Centerport Pond in Centerport. Both 
birds appeared to be classic Richardson’s. 

Prior to my  Centerport Pond visit I stopped by Millers Pond in Smithtown where 
I recorded at least 31 collared birds all part of the West Greenland Canada 
Goose banding program. Millers Pond has proven to be one of the favored 
migratory stopovers for the vast majority of birds collared in this program. 

Of great interest to me was Michael McBrien’s post describing the four 
interesting Cackling Geese he observed on Riley Avenue in Calverton. The 
description of Michael’s birds strongly fit a Cackling-type goose I observed 
and photographed on November 22nd at Hecksher State Park. It appeared as 
anything but a typical Richardson’s goose and aspects of the bird seem to 
support Taverner’s Cackling Goose (B. h. tavernerii), one of the four 
recognized subspecies of Cackling Goose of Alaskan origins that spends it’s 
winters in Washington and Oregon (currently thought to be very rare east of the 
Rockies). I solicited some feedback from an avid west coast goose observer who 
agrees that the Hecksher bird looks good for Taverner’s. This is encouraging 
but the reality is that this bird’s origins will likely never be pinned down. 

The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further complicates 
matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look carefully and 
cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document these birds 
when the opportunity presents itself. 

Here is a link to some photographs of today’s white-fronts and the 11/22 
Cackling Goose:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/39025168@N07/ 


R.I.P. Ross’s Goose

Best,
Derek Rogers
Sayville
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Long Island Geese (Suffolk)

2015-11-28 Thread Andrew Baksh
"The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further complicates 
matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look carefully and 
cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document these birds 
when the opportunity presents itself."


I agree with the above statement and reiterate that reports of such candidates 
be shared with the birding community as promptly as possible to encourage 
others to get involved with such studies.

Cheers,

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Derek Rogers  wrote:
> 
> The white-cheeked goose complex is complicated and is still a long way from 
> being well understood. The potential for hybridization also further 
> complicates matters but I think this reiterates the importance for us to look 
> carefully and cautiously at suspect Cackling Geese and to thoroughly document 
> these birds when the opportunity presents itself. 

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