RE: [nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

[Steve Walter]

I had the opportunity to photograph a few Brewer's in Arizona in September
2012. I say Brewer's because they are expected there - vastly outnumbering
Clay-colored. But matching up some of the pictures to field guides was more
difficult than you would think, especially with few actual photographs to
compare to.  I have a few of my pictures available online still, if anyone
wants to compare. In one of them, the tail appears especially long. Also of
note is that the crown streaking looks finer to me than on the Queens bird.
Of course, age and time of year have to be taken into account.

 

The address is http://stevewalternature.com/steve/sparrows.htm . The
pictures to look at are labeled Las Cienagas 07, 08, and 09.

 

 

Steve Walter

 

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[mailto:bounce-120005318-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of David
Klauber
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 8:36 PM
To: NY Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

 

 I've done a bit of research on this and I think identification to species
is inconclusive, as there seem to be characteristics that favor  both
Clay-colored and Brewer's. There is more confusion because I think the side
of the face that shows a black semi-circle might be feather bases caused by
the wind or ruffled feathers, since neither species shows this. Like almost
everyone else I don't have extensive experience with either species,
especially Brewer's, but here's what I've found from checking the Nat Geo,
Sibley, Stokes photo guide, and Rising & Beadle's sparrow guide. 
 
There seems to be weak streaking on the gray nape, which I think should be
stronger for Brewer's, but shouldn't be there for Clay-colored. The eye-ring
seems a bit weak for Brewer's as well - could it be worn? The black streaks
on the back are listed as good for Brewer's by Rising, etc, but Sibley
paints Clay-colors with a similar pattern. Deborah Allen mentioned the tail
looking short for Brewer's, and most books show Brewer's with a long tail.
The overall color looks more like the grayish-brown of Brewer's. The face
pattern doesn't look strong enough for Clay-color, but doesn't really match
Brewer's either. 
 
The Stokes guide has a photo on page 666, bottom left, which comes pretty
close to the Queens bird, but not quite. There is supposed to be a
difference in the cheek color, but the previously mentioned black semicircle
obscures this, although I think it's more gray (Brewer's) than buff
(Clay-color). I don't know what to make of the faint blurry streaks on the
side of the breast, but it does match the same Stokes photo. The pink bill
is black on top, also good for Brewer's.
 
So to my eyes a real head-scratcher. Hybrid seems the easy way out, but I
don't know much about worn or transitional plumages for either. 
In any event a very interesting bird, even if it's a dull LBJ.

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[nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

[David Klauber]

 I've done a bit of research on this and I think identification to species is 
inconclusive, as there seem to be characteristics that favor  both Clay-colored 
and Brewer's. There is more confusion because I think the side of the face that 
shows a black semi-circle might be feather bases caused by the wind or ruffled 
feathers, since neither species shows this. Like almost everyone else I don't 
have extensive experience with either species, especially Brewer's, but here's 
what I've found from checking the Nat Geo, Sibley, Stokes photo guide, and 
Rising & Beadle's sparrow guide. 
 
There seems to be weak streaking on the gray nape, which I think should be 
stronger for Brewer's, but shouldn't be there for Clay-colored. The eye-ring 
seems a bit weak for Brewer's as well - could it be worn? The black streaks on 
the back are listed as good for Brewer's by Rising, etc, but Sibley paints 
Clay-colors with a similar pattern. Deborah Allen mentioned the tail looking 
short for Brewer's, and most books show Brewer's with a long tail. The overall 
color looks more like the grayish-brown of Brewer's. The face pattern doesn't 
look strong enough for Clay-color, but doesn't really match Brewer's either. 
 
The Stokes guide has a photo on page 666, bottom left, which comes pretty close 
to the Queens bird, but not quite. There is supposed to be a difference in the 
cheek color, but the previously mentioned black semicircle obscures this, 
although I think it's more gray (Brewer's) than buff (Clay-color). I don't know 
what to make of the faint blurry streaks on the side of the breast, but it does 
match the same Stokes photo. The pink bill is black on top, also good for 
Brewer's.
 
So to my eyes a real head-scratcher. Hybrid seems the easy way out, but I don't 
know much about worn or transitional plumages for either. 
In any event a very interesting bird, even if it's a dull LBJ.
  
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!

[David Klauber]

and what about cross-posting to this forum, NYSbirds, for those of us who don't 
use ebird. It doesn't take that log to cut and paste from one forum to the next
 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:00:23 -0500
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!
From: fresha2...@gmail.com
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu

Hey everybody,
This is in relation to the issue brought up by Rick Cech regarding the photos 
of the Spizella not being initially posted in a place where they were easily 
findable and publicly accessible. This is a concern that we have seen voiced a 
lot recently, and it's not going away, as birding intel gets more and more 
fragmented between different streams of communication. A great way to solve 
this issue is by putting your photos (or other media) into your eBird 
checklists. This USED to be only "pretty easy," since you had to put them onto 
a third party website, like Flickr, Picasa, etc. and then embed the links in 
your checklist, but now it is "very easy" since all you have to do is drag your 
photo from your computer directly into the checklist.
This then makes them viewable for everybody, as well as VERY easy to search 
for, by using the intuitive search functions on the eBird site. For a really 
good summary of why you should always put your documentation directly into your 
checklist, please read here: 
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/rich_media_launch/


One really good reason that I will mention here is that in general it saves 
people lots of time during the review process: you save time by not having to 
be involved in a back-and forth with an eBird moderator and having to E-Mail 
photos separately, eBird reviewers save time by not having to fish for 
additional details (which can sometimes feels like pulling teeth), and all 
people interested in the sighting save time by being able to quickly see the 
highest quality documentation possible very quickly, rather than poking around 
elsewhere online or asking other people "in the loop" about something they're 
interested in (democratize the documentation for all!).
Here are a couple of examples of checklists, one a media-rich checklist, and 
one a non media-rich checklist, The media-rich one would be very helpful for 
incredulous people looking back in 100 years and wondering if the birders were 
actually seeing the stuff they claimed to see nowadays, (even the stuff that 
seems common now might one day be remarkable):
Media-rich (including photos, audio, and photo of 
spectrograph):http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25958695
Media-dull (at the time of posting, perhaps this will change with 
time!):http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S26392399

This isn't meant to call anybody specific out, as many people choose to make 
checklists like the latter. This goes for many people who post photos elsewhere 
(including places that aren;t accessible to the public, like private facebook 
groups or twitter accounts) or don't post at all: think about which of the 
preceding checklists would better satiate your interest and thirst for 
knowledge if you looked at these in a hundred years without having any 
firsthand knowledge of the day-to-day goings on of our many different rarity 
groups, be it facebook, yahoo groups, cornell-run listservs, twitter groups, or 
text message groups. The former is objectively better.
For more information on the very quick and simple task of uploading photos and 
audio, here are two how-to links (the first should cover everything, and the 
second explains more about audio):
http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/973966

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/addaudio/

Good Birding (and documenting!)-Doug Gochfeld. Brooklyn, NY.


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[nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!

[Doug Gochfeld]

Hey everybody,

This is in relation to the issue brought up by Rick Cech regarding the
photos of the Spizella not being initially posted in a place where they
were easily findable and publicly accessible. This is a concern that we
have seen voiced a lot recently, and it's not going away, as birding intel
gets more and more fragmented between different streams of communication.
A great way to solve this issue is by putting your photos (or other media)
into your eBird checklists. This USED to be only "*pretty easy*," since you
had to put them onto a third party website, like Flickr, Picasa, etc. and
then embed the links in your checklist, but now it is "*very easy*" since
all you have to do is drag your photo from your computer directly into the
checklist.

This then makes them viewable for everybody, as well as VERY easy to search
for, by using the intuitive search functions on the eBird site. For a
really good summary of why you should always put your documentation
directly into your checklist, please read here:

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/rich_media_launch/



One really good reason that I will mention here is that in general it saves
people lots of time during the review process: you save time by not having
to be involved in a back-and forth with an eBird moderator and having to
E-Mail photos separately, eBird reviewers save time by not having to fish
for additional details (which can sometimes feels like pulling teeth), and
all people interested in the sighting save time by being able to quickly
see the highest quality documentation possible very quickly, rather than
poking around elsewhere online or asking other people "in the loop" about
something they're interested in (democratize the documentation for all!).

Here are a couple of examples of checklists, one a media-rich checklist,
and one a non media-rich checklist,
The media-rich one would be very helpful for incredulous people looking
back in 100 years and wondering if the birders were actually seeing the
stuff they claimed to see nowadays, (even the stuff that seems common now
might one day be remarkable):

Media-rich (including photos, audio, and photo of spectrograph):
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25958695
Media-dull (at the time of posting, perhaps this will change with time!):
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S26392399

This isn't meant to call anybody specific out, as many people choose to
make checklists like the latter. This goes for many people who post photos
elsewhere (including places that aren;t accessible to the public, like
private facebook groups or twitter accounts) or don't post at all: think
about which of the preceding checklists would better satiate your interest
and thirst for knowledge if you looked at these in a hundred years without
having any firsthand knowledge of the day-to-day goings on of our many
different rarity groups, be it facebook, yahoo groups, cornell-run
listservs, twitter groups, or text message groups. The former is
objectively better.

For more information on the very quick and simple task of uploading photos
and audio, here are two how-to links (the first should cover everything,
and the second explains more about audio):

http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/973966

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/addaudio/

Good Birding (and documenting!)
-Doug Gochfeld. Brooklyn, NY.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Corey and all,

My immediate impression, without looking at any references, is that the eyering 
is less distinct, and the median crown stripe more distinct, than expected for 
Brewer's. The bird also looks very buffy on the breast, as in Clay-colored. All 
this is qualified by my very limited experience with Brewer's.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-120005090-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-120005090-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Corey Finger 
[1birdsblog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
To: New York; Nyc ebirds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing 
Meadows Corona Park

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

Good Birding,
Corey Finger
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RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Kevin J. McGowan]

I have depressingly little experience with Brewer’s Sparrow over the last 
couple of decades, but doesn’t the bright gray, unstreaked nape rule that 
species out and clinch Clay-colored Sparrow?


Kevin

From: bounce-120005161-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120005161-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Corey Finger
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:45 PM
To: Rick
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L; Nyc ebirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in 
Flushing Meadows Corona Park

Original shot is here:

http://1birds.com/good-birds-on-the-queens-county-christmas-bird-count.htm

Will add the others as quickly as I can get them on the site.

Corey

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rick 
mailto:rc...@nyc.rr.com>> wrote:
Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

Thanks,
Rick

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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
To: New York mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>; Nyc 
ebirds mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park


The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

Good Birding,
Corey Finger
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[nysbirds-l] White-winged Crossbills/Red Crossbills/Common Redpoll & more

[Joan Collins]

12/21/15 Long Lake, Newcomb, & Minerva (Hamilton & Essex Counties)

 

At our feeders, we continue to have Purple Finches, Pine Siskins, and Amer.
Goldfinches.  The Pine Siskin numbers increase each day and it sounded like
a jungle outside our house today!  I'm also finding these 3 finch species
nearly everywhere I go.  I found a huge mixed flock of finches gritting on
Route 28N between Long Lake and Newcomb.  Large lakes are still completely
open, and small, still ponds and lakes are partially frozen.  We have just a
dusting of snow (that will melt when it reaches nearly 60 degrees on
Christmas Eve).

 

A few other species found this morning:

 

Gray Jay - 6 at Sabattis Bog (& many Blue Jays)

Boreal Chickadee - 3 at a marsh near the Newcomb-Minerva town line

Amer. Tree Sparrow - marsh in Newcomb

Dark-eyed Junco - Tahawus Road in Newcomb

Purple Finch - widespread

Red Crossbill - at least 12 (2 along Sabattis Circle Road near the Little
Tupper Lake inlet - male singing, at least 5 in Newcomb (including a pair
with a singing male), 3 near the railroad bed in Minerva, and at least 2 by
the Boreas River Bridge)  The birds in Newcomb sounded like Type 2s.  I
posted photos of the Newcomb pair on my Facebook page below.  The male's
upper mandible pointed to the right and the female's to the left.

Pine Siskin - widespread with several large flocks

American Goldfinch - widespread

 

12/17/15 Sabattis Circle Road in Long Lake

 

I found 4 Gray Jays at Sabattis Bog and 4 Red Crossbills by the Little
Tupper Lake inlet on my drive out.

 

12/16/15 Sabattis Circle Road & Long Lake

 

This was a 6 finch species day on Sabattis Circle Road!  Here are some of
the species found:

 

Greater Scaup - 2 (male & female) on Long Lake

Hooded Merganser - 2 (male & female) on Little Tupper Lake

Common Merganser - ~30 (all females) on Long Lake

Pileated Woodpecker - 3

Gray Jay - 6 at Sabattis Bog

Blue Jay - many

Purple Finch

Red Crossbill - at least 3 (a pair observed at Sabattis Bog, and calling
heard at the inlet of Little Tupper Lake)

White-winged Crossbill - 9 at Sabattis Bog!

(Common, I assume) Redpoll - 1 that circled me calling before flying off

Pine Siskin

Amer. Goldfinch

 

12/14/15 Sabattis Circle Road in Long Lake

 

Black-backed Woodpecker - 1 at Sabattis Bog

Gray Jay - 6 (4 at Sabattis Bog and 2 along Route 30 just outside the Long
Lake village)

Bohemian Waxwing - heard by the inlet of Little Tupper Lake

Purple Finch

Red Crossbill - 4 (pair at the Sabattis Bog, and pair at the inlet of Little
Tupper Lake)  I photographed the pair at the inlet - the male's upper
mandible points to the right and the female's to the left.  They were taking
turns gritting in the road - when the male was perched in the tree above the
gritting female, he sang non-stop.  I got some bad recordings on my iPhone,
but Matt Young (Cornell Lab) was still able to determine the type - Type 10
- from the recordings.  I also took a video of the male and a video of the
female as they gritted - I posted them to my Facebook page along with photos
of this pair.

White-winged Crossbill - fly-over flock at Sabattis Bog

Pine Siskin

Amer. Goldfinch

 

Joan Collins

President, NYS Ornithological Association

Editor, New York Birders

Long Lake, NY

(315) 244-7127 cell   

(518) 624-5528 home

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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Corey Finger]

Original shot is here:

http://1birds.com/good-birds-on-the-queens-county-christmas-bird-count.htm

Will add the others as quickly as I can get them on the site.

Corey

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rick  wrote:

> Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this
> posting (at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly
> accessible site?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> *From:* ebirds...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Corey Finger 1birdsblog...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
> *To:* New York ; Nyc ebirds <
> ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>
> *Subject:* [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing
> Meadows Corona Park
>
>
>
>
>
> The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County
> CBC yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.
>
>
>
> When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on
> Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom
> Johnson and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a
> possible Brewer's Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original
> image on Facebook. Photos can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page
> here:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/
>
>
>
> In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought
> to check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to
> my rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them
> as I could be.
>
>
>
> For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the
> location of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground
> zero for the junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the
> Pine Warblers travel, though the flock does range widely:
>
>
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
> 
>
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>
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RE:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Rick]

Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

 

Thanks,

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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
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Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park

 

  

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

 

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

 

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:


https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
 

 

 

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

 

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

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[nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Corey Finger]

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County
CBC yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom
Johnson and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a
possible Brewer's Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original
image on Facebook. Photos can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page
here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as
I could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the
location of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground
zero for the junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the
Pine Warblers travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

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[nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC & Pelham Bay Park - Sunday Dec. 20 - Orange-crowned Warbler & Ovenbird

[Deborah Allen]

Central Park NYC 
Sunday December 20, 2015
OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, others

After spending a good part of the morning with the Great Lawn team led by 
Richard Lieberman on the Central Park CBC, I joined up with Bob DeCandido's 
bird walk. 

In the Great Lawn section an Orange-crowned Warbler spotted by Richard 
Lieberman south of the Met Museum was notable. After the initial Orange-crowned 
Warbler impression I took several diagnostic (but not aesthetically pleasing) 
photos of the key field marks just to be absolutely certain of the i.d.before 
tweeting the bird. If you haven't done so already check out the #birdcp on 
twitter. 

Here's the list for Bob's bird walk:

Canada Goose - Reservoir 
Mallard - Reservoir
Ring-necked Duck - male on Reservoir
Bufflehead - 3 Reservoir
Ruddy Duck - around 140 on Reservoir
Great Horned Owl - also reported on Christmas Count
Red-bellied Woodpecker - 4
Downy woodpecker - 2
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 4 0r 5 - near Met Museum, northwest Pinetum, & 
elsewhere
Northern Flicker - male at the Upper Lobe (Ramble)
Black-capped Chickadee - 4
Tufted Titmouse - 6
White-breasted Nuthatch - 2
Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 5 (2 south of Met Museum, 2 in Ramble near Gill 
Overlook, 1 northwest Pinetum) 
Hermit Thrush - 1 south of Met Museum
Orange-crowned Warbler - south of Met Museum
Fox Sparrow - 3 in Mugger's Woods in the Ramble
House Finch - around 20
American Goldfinch - 10

Sweetgums still attracting many birds.
-

Bob DeCandido & I spent part of the afternoon in Pelham Bay Park. 

HIghlights:

Off the larger of the Twin Islands:
Flock of around 40 Red-breated Mergansers 
Male Common Goldeneye

Hunter Island - entrance to Kazimiroff trail:
Northern Mockingbird
Cedar Waxwing - small flock of 4
Ovenbird - spotted by Bob - very cooperative

Two Red-tailed Hawks flew past us on Pelham Parkway. 

I could get used to seeing two warblers in one day in December. 

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[nysbirds-l] Flushing Meadows-Corona Park Queens County -- Cackling Geese, Lark & Clay-colored Sparrow +

[Andrew Baksh]

It took some effort but I finally caught up with all of the recent highlighted 
birds from Flushing Meadows Corona Park in Queens.

The continuing Richardson Cackling Geese were observed feeding near the lake 
amongst a flock of 368 Canada Geese.

Following up on the reports of Lark, Clay-colored Sparrow and Pine Warbler. I 
went in search of the location they were seen. It turns out that while the 
location is indeed north of the LIE, it is instead named "Garden of 
Meditation." I had to put in a lengthy search for the mixed flock (mostly made 
up of Juncos) and I ended up finding them near the Queens Museum.

In working over the flock, I found an additional 2 Pine Warblers for a total of 
3. The plumages ranged from bright to intermediate males to drab female type. 
All three were actively moving with the Junco flock.

The Sparrows were a little harder and I did not find them at first with the 
Junco flock that had the Pine Warblers but ran into them after tracking down a 
HOSP (House Sparrow) flock to see what was moving with them.

Both Sparrows were with a smaller Junco flock, which I suspect were all part of 
the earlier flock that contained the Pine Warblers. As I watched the Lark and 
Clay-colored Sparrow, other Juncos flew in with the Pine Warblers.

My congratulations to the CBC party or individual that found them. These are 
very good birds for Queens this late.

Cheers,

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> of the Serenity Garden, a grove of pines just north of the LIE. They are 
> associating with a flock of juncos. The Bald Eagle was perched by Willow Lake 
> - seen from the Van Wyck. Haven't found the Cackled yet but haven't really 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ash-throated Flycatcher; Fort Hill Cemetery, Montauk, Suffolk

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Continues (12 Monday) on trail west of parking circle

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[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC, CBC preliminary

[Lynne Hertzog]

Here's the preliminary list from Central Park yesterday. We had a total of
54 species and 4,262 birds. Preliminary count is 98 participants.
Highlights were the Orange-crowned Warbler, Wilson's Warbler,
Black-and-white Warbler, Great Horned Owl, and the Ring-necked Duck (bolded
below). Some big misses include Peregrine Falcon and Sharp-shinned Hawk,
which we have as count week birds, and there was also noticeable absence of
several birds (incl. Eastern Towhees, Swamp Sparrows, Fox Sparrows, etc.).

We're working on the full New Jersey /Lower Hudson tally, those results
will be posted shortly.
Thanks so much to all the participants!

Debra Kriensky
Susan Elbin
NYC Audubon

Canada Goose - 196

Wood Duck - 1

Gadwall - 6

American Black Duck - 7

Mallard - 208

Northern Shoveler - 88

*Ring-necked Duck - 1*

Bufflehead - 8

Hooded Merganser - 4

Ruddy Duck - 307

Pied-billed Grebe - 1

Double-crested Cormorant - 3

Cooper's Hawk - 4

Red-tailed Hawk - 12

American Kestrel - 1

American Coot - 5

Ring-billed Gull - 214

Herring Gull - 114

Great Black-backed Gull - 12

Rock Pigeon - 548

Mourning Dove - 78

*Great Horned Owl - 1*

Belted Kingfisher - 1

Red-bellied Woodpecker - 38

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 14

Downy Woodpecker - 23

Hairy Woodpecker - 1

Northern Flicker - 7

Blue Jay - 157

American Crow - 16

Black-capped Chickadee - 25

Tufted Titmouse - 45

White-breasted Nuthatch - 52

Brown Creeper - 3

Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 4

Hermit Thrush - 6

American Robin - 117

Gray Catbird - 2

Northern Mockingbird - 14

Brown Thrasher - 3

European Starling - 289

Cedar Waxwing - 8

*Orange-crowned Warbler - 1*

*Wilson's Warbler - 1*

*Black-and-white Warbler - 1*

Song Sparrow - 11

White-throated Sparrow - 390

Dark-eyed Junco - 54

Northern Cardinal - 45

Red-winged Blackbird - 1

Common Grackle - 201

House Finch - 47

American Goldfinch - 39

House Sparrow - 827

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[nysbirds-l] Ross's goose

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Currently being viewed on northwest area of Eastport lake. This is in Eastport 
long island.
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[nysbirds-l] Bronx-Westchester Christmas Bird Count Dec 27

[Michael C Bochnik]

2015 BRONX - WESTCHESTER CHRISTMAS BIRD COUNT
This year’s count will be held on SUNDAY, December 27, 2015. If you plan to 
join us on the count, please contact me or the appropriate regional leader 
listed below. 

The compilation dinner will be at the Lenoir Nature Center, 19 Dudley Street in 
Yonkers. The cost is back down to $10 with an expanded menu with a great 
selection of hot food and fabulous homemade desserts by the great bakers from 
the Hudson River Audubon Society. The center will be open by 4:30 PM for those 
who need a place to meet and total up your birds or just warm up. The food and 
count down will begin at 6:00 PM or when the groups have their numbers ready.
I hope to see you on this year's count and at the compilation. Good luck and 
good birding. Field cards are available to download your own at 
http://www.hras.org/bwcbc.html under Forms, Foldable checklist
 
Michael Bochnik - Compiler
 
Sunrise 7:18AM (civil twilight-6:47AM); Sunset 4:34PM.  New Rochelle: Low Tide 
6:31AM   High Tide 12:18 PM 
 
Area Leaders
 
East Bronx: (East of Bronx River)
David Kunstler
Work: 718-430-4684
Home: 718-405-6022 
david.kunst...@parks.nyc.gov
 
West Bronx: (West of, and including Bronx River)
Andrew Baksh
cell: 917-968-7412
birdingd...@gmail.com   

 
Rye
Tom Burke
914-967-4922
 
Scarsdale: (including Bronxville, TuckahoeLarchmont, New Rochelle, Mt. Vernon, 
etc.)
Doug Bloom
914-834-5203 
larch...@aol.com
 
Yonkers
Michael Bochnik  
914-237-9331(home)  
914-953-7409 (cell, txt)
bochn...@cs.com
 
Hudson Valley: (includes Hastings, Ardsley, Dobbs Ferry)
David & Lawrence McIntyre
914-962-1651
lctmcinty...@optonline.net
 
Visit the Bronx/Westchester Web site at www.hras.org/bwcbc.html
Here you will find past count summaries, check lists, rare bird forms, and 
interesting history on the count
 





















Directions to Lenoir Nature Preserve
19 Dudley Street, Yonkers, NY
>From the Saw Mill River Parkway: Exit at Exit 9, Executive Blvd. Take 
>Executive Blvd. to North Broadway and turn right. Go 1/4 mile and turn left 
>onto Dudley Street. Lenoir’s parking lot is on the left. Walk up to the nature 
>center by taking the path up the hill on the left side of the parking lot, or 
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[nysbirds-l] Montauk- Ash Throated Flycatcher- yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

Currently being seen northwest corner of Fort Hill Cemetery.  Park in circle 
and head to right trail to top of hill, between boulders. Bird is in the 
thicket on right on path.
Eileen Schwinn
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[nysbirds-l] Central Park NYC & Pelham Bay Park - Sunday Dec. 20 - Orange-crowned Warbler & Ovenbird

[Deborah Allen]

Central Park NYC 
Sunday December 20, 2015
OBS: Robert DeCandido, Deborah Allen, others

After spending a good part of the morning with the Great Lawn team led by 
Richard Lieberman on the Central Park CBC, I joined up with Bob DeCandido's 
bird walk. 

In the Great Lawn section an Orange-crowned Warbler spotted by Richard 
Lieberman south of the Met Museum was notable. After the initial Orange-crowned 
Warbler impression I took several diagnostic (but not aesthetically pleasing) 
photos of the key field marks just to be absolutely certain of the i.d.before 
tweeting the bird. If you haven't done so already check out the #birdcp on 
twitter. 

Here's the list for Bob's bird walk:

Canada Goose - Reservoir 
Mallard - Reservoir
Ring-necked Duck - male on Reservoir
Bufflehead - 3 Reservoir
Ruddy Duck - around 140 on Reservoir
Great Horned Owl - also reported on Christmas Count
Red-bellied Woodpecker - 4
Downy woodpecker - 2
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 4 0r 5 - near Met Museum, northwest Pinetum, & 
elsewhere
Northern Flicker - male at the Upper Lobe (Ramble)
Black-capped Chickadee - 4
Tufted Titmouse - 6
White-breasted Nuthatch - 2
Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 5 (2 south of Met Museum, 2 in Ramble near Gill 
Overlook, 1 northwest Pinetum) 
Hermit Thrush - 1 south of Met Museum
Orange-crowned Warbler - south of Met Museum
Fox Sparrow - 3 in Mugger's Woods in the Ramble
House Finch - around 20
American Goldfinch - 10

Sweetgums still attracting many birds.
-

Bob DeCandido & I spent part of the afternoon in Pelham Bay Park. 

HIghlights:

Off the larger of the Twin Islands:
Flock of around 40 Red-breated Mergansers 
Male Common Goldeneye

Hunter Island - entrance to Kazimiroff trail:
Northern Mockingbird
Cedar Waxwing - small flock of 4
Ovenbird - spotted by Bob - very cooperative

Two Red-tailed Hawks flew past us on Pelham Parkway. 

I could get used to seeing two warblers in one day in December. 

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[nysbirds-l] Flushing Meadows-Corona Park Queens County -- Cackling Geese, Lark & Clay-colored Sparrow +

[Andrew Baksh]

It took some effort but I finally caught up with all of the recent highlighted 
birds from Flushing Meadows Corona Park in Queens.

The continuing Richardson Cackling Geese were observed feeding near the lake 
amongst a flock of 368 Canada Geese.

Following up on the reports of Lark, Clay-colored Sparrow and Pine Warbler. I 
went in search of the location they were seen. It turns out that while the 
location is indeed north of the LIE, it is instead named "Garden of 
Meditation." I had to put in a lengthy search for the mixed flock (mostly made 
up of Juncos) and I ended up finding them near the Queens Museum.

In working over the flock, I found an additional 2 Pine Warblers for a total of 
3. The plumages ranged from bright to intermediate males to drab female type. 
All three were actively moving with the Junco flock.

The Sparrows were a little harder and I did not find them at first with the 
Junco flock that had the Pine Warblers but ran into them after tracking down a 
HOSP (House Sparrow) flock to see what was moving with them.

Both Sparrows were with a smaller Junco flock, which I suspect were all part of 
the earlier flock that contained the Pine Warblers. As I watched the Lark and 
Clay-colored Sparrow, other Juncos flew in with the Pine Warblers.

My congratulations to the CBC party or individual that found them. These are 
very good birds for Queens this late.

Cheers,

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林　Quiet as the forest
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> The Lark Sparrow, Clay-colored Sparrow, and Pine Warbler continue just north 
> of the Serenity Garden, a grove of pines just north of the LIE. They are 
> associating with a flock of juncos. The Bald Eagle was perched by Willow Lake 
> - seen from the Van Wyck. Haven't found the Cackled yet but haven't really 
> looked yet either.
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[nysbirds-l] White-winged Crossbills/Red Crossbills/Common Redpoll & more

[Joan Collins]

12/21/15 Long Lake, Newcomb, & Minerva (Hamilton & Essex Counties)

 

At our feeders, we continue to have Purple Finches, Pine Siskins, and Amer.
Goldfinches.  The Pine Siskin numbers increase each day and it sounded like
a jungle outside our house today!  I'm also finding these 3 finch species
nearly everywhere I go.  I found a huge mixed flock of finches gritting on
Route 28N between Long Lake and Newcomb.  Large lakes are still completely
open, and small, still ponds and lakes are partially frozen.  We have just a
dusting of snow (that will melt when it reaches nearly 60 degrees on
Christmas Eve).

 

A few other species found this morning:

 

Gray Jay - 6 at Sabattis Bog (& many Blue Jays)

Boreal Chickadee - 3 at a marsh near the Newcomb-Minerva town line

Amer. Tree Sparrow - marsh in Newcomb

Dark-eyed Junco - Tahawus Road in Newcomb

Purple Finch - widespread

Red Crossbill - at least 12 (2 along Sabattis Circle Road near the Little
Tupper Lake inlet - male singing, at least 5 in Newcomb (including a pair
with a singing male), 3 near the railroad bed in Minerva, and at least 2 by
the Boreas River Bridge)  The birds in Newcomb sounded like Type 2s.  I
posted photos of the Newcomb pair on my Facebook page below.  The male's
upper mandible pointed to the right and the female's to the left.

Pine Siskin - widespread with several large flocks

American Goldfinch - widespread

 

12/17/15 Sabattis Circle Road in Long Lake

 

I found 4 Gray Jays at Sabattis Bog and 4 Red Crossbills by the Little
Tupper Lake inlet on my drive out.

 

12/16/15 Sabattis Circle Road & Long Lake

 

This was a 6 finch species day on Sabattis Circle Road!  Here are some of
the species found:

 

Greater Scaup - 2 (male & female) on Long Lake

Hooded Merganser - 2 (male & female) on Little Tupper Lake

Common Merganser - ~30 (all females) on Long Lake

Pileated Woodpecker - 3

Gray Jay - 6 at Sabattis Bog

Blue Jay - many

Purple Finch

Red Crossbill - at least 3 (a pair observed at Sabattis Bog, and calling
heard at the inlet of Little Tupper Lake)

White-winged Crossbill - 9 at Sabattis Bog!

(Common, I assume) Redpoll - 1 that circled me calling before flying off

Pine Siskin

Amer. Goldfinch

 

12/14/15 Sabattis Circle Road in Long Lake

 

Black-backed Woodpecker - 1 at Sabattis Bog

Gray Jay - 6 (4 at Sabattis Bog and 2 along Route 30 just outside the Long
Lake village)

Bohemian Waxwing - heard by the inlet of Little Tupper Lake

Purple Finch

Red Crossbill - 4 (pair at the Sabattis Bog, and pair at the inlet of Little
Tupper Lake)  I photographed the pair at the inlet - the male's upper
mandible points to the right and the female's to the left.  They were taking
turns gritting in the road - when the male was perched in the tree above the
gritting female, he sang non-stop.  I got some bad recordings on my iPhone,
but Matt Young (Cornell Lab) was still able to determine the type - Type 10
- from the recordings.  I also took a video of the male and a video of the
female as they gritted - I posted them to my Facebook page along with photos
of this pair.

White-winged Crossbill - fly-over flock at Sabattis Bog

Pine Siskin

Amer. Goldfinch

 

Joan Collins

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RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Kevin J. McGowan]

I have depressingly little experience with Brewer’s Sparrow over the last 
couple of decades, but doesn’t the bright gray, unstreaked nape rule that 
species out and clinch Clay-colored Sparrow?


Kevin

From: bounce-120005161-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120005161-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Corey Finger
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:45 PM
To: Rick
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L; Nyc ebirds
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in 
Flushing Meadows Corona Park

Original shot is here:

http://1birds.com/good-birds-on-the-queens-county-christmas-bird-count.htm

Will add the others as quickly as I can get them on the site.

Corey

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rick 
> wrote:
Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

Thanks,
Rick

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Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park


The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

Good Birding,
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RE:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Rick]

Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this posting 
(at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly accessible site?

 

Thanks,

Rick

 

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Corey Finger 1birdsblog...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
To: New York ; Nyc ebirds 
Subject: [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows 
Corona Park

 

  

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

 

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

 

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:


https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
 

 

 

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

 

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

 

Good Birding,

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[nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!

[Doug Gochfeld]

Hey everybody,

This is in relation to the issue brought up by Rick Cech regarding the
photos of the Spizella not being initially posted in a place where they
were easily findable and publicly accessible. This is a concern that we
have seen voiced a lot recently, and it's not going away, as birding intel
gets more and more fragmented between different streams of communication.
A great way to solve this issue is by putting your photos (or other media)
into your eBird checklists. This USED to be only "*pretty easy*," since you
had to put them onto a third party website, like Flickr, Picasa, etc. and
then embed the links in your checklist, but now it is "*very easy*" since
all you have to do is drag your photo from your computer directly into the
checklist.

This then makes them viewable for everybody, as well as VERY easy to search
for, by using the intuitive search functions on the eBird site. For a
really good summary of why you should always put your documentation
directly into your checklist, please read here:

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/rich_media_launch/



One really good reason that I will mention here is that in general it saves
people lots of time during the review process: you save time by not having
to be involved in a back-and forth with an eBird moderator and having to
E-Mail photos separately, eBird reviewers save time by not having to fish
for additional details (which can sometimes feels like pulling teeth), and
all people interested in the sighting save time by being able to quickly
see the highest quality documentation possible very quickly, rather than
poking around elsewhere online or asking other people "in the loop" about
something they're interested in (democratize the documentation for all!).

Here are a couple of examples of checklists, one a media-rich checklist,
and one a non media-rich checklist,
The media-rich one would be very helpful for incredulous people looking
back in 100 years and wondering if the birders were actually seeing the
stuff they claimed to see nowadays, (even the stuff that seems common now
might one day be remarkable):

Media-rich (including photos, audio, and photo of spectrograph):
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25958695
Media-dull (at the time of posting, perhaps this will change with time!):
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S26392399

This isn't meant to call anybody specific out, as many people choose to
make checklists like the latter. This goes for many people who post photos
elsewhere (including places that aren;t accessible to the public, like
private facebook groups or twitter accounts) or don't post at all: think
about which of the preceding checklists would better satiate your interest
and thirst for knowledge if you looked at these in a hundred years without
having any firsthand knowledge of the day-to-day goings on of our many
different rarity groups, be it facebook, yahoo groups, cornell-run
listservs, twitter groups, or text message groups. The former is
objectively better.

For more information on the very quick and simple task of uploading photos
and audio, here are two how-to links (the first should cover everything,
and the second explains more about audio):

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Good Birding (and documenting!)
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Corey and all,

My immediate impression, without looking at any references, is that the eyering 
is less distinct, and the median crown stripe more distinct, than expected for 
Brewer's. The bird also looks very buffy on the breast, as in Clay-colored. All 
this is qualified by my very limited experience with Brewer's.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

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[bounce-120005090-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Corey Finger 
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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
To: New York; Nyc ebirds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing 
Meadows Corona Park

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County CBC 
yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on 
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom Johnson 
and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a possible Brewer's 
Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original image on Facebook. Photos 
can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to 
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my 
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as I 
could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the location 
of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground zero for the 
junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the Pine Warblers 
travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is 
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

Good Birding,
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[nysbirds-l] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Corey Finger]

The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County
CBC yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.

When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on
Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom
Johnson and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a
possible Brewer's Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original
image on Facebook. Photos can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page
here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/

In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought to
check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to my
rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them as
I could be.

For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the
location of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground
zero for the junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the
Pine Warblers travel, though the flock does range widely:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3

Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is
under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.

Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.

Good Birding,
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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing Meadows Corona Park

[Corey Finger]

Original shot is here:

http://1birds.com/good-birds-on-the-queens-county-christmas-bird-count.htm

Will add the others as quickly as I can get them on the site.

Corey

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rick  wrote:

> Hi, those Luddites among us who don’t use Facebook can’t access this
> posting (at least I can’t). Any chance of a posting to a publicly
> accessible site?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> *From:* ebirds...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Corey Finger 1birdsblog...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2015 5:02 PM
> *To:* New York ; Nyc ebirds <
> ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>
> *Subject:* [ebirdsnyc] Potential (Probable?) Brewer's Sparrow in Flushing
> Meadows Corona Park
>
>
>
>
>
> The Clay-colored Sparrow found by Cesar Castillo during the Queens County
> CBC yesterday might actually be a Brewer's Sparrow.
>
>
>
> When I got home from seeing the bird this morning I posted an image on
> Facebook. This afternoon, a very short time ago, I got texts from Tom
> Johnson and Doug Gochfeld asking for more photos as they think it's a
> possible Brewer's Sparrow. I've since added more photos to the original
> image on Facebook. Photos can be seen on the New York Birders Facebook page
> here:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYBirders/
>
>
>
> In the field the bird did seem a bit pale but I never would have thought
> to check if it was a Brewer's Sparrow or not. I chalked the paleness up to
> my rarely seeing Clay-colored Sparrows and not being as familiar with them
> as I could be.
>
>
>
> For those who want to go after this bird, the pin on this map is the
> location of the "Meditation Garden," a pine grove that serves as ground
> zero for the junco flock with which this sparrow, the Lark Sparrow, and the
> Pine Warblers travel, though the flock does range widely:
>
>
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/dir//40.743895,-73.840194/@40.7438245,-73.8398589,350m/data=!3m1!1e3
> 
>
>
>
> Easiest car access is from College Point Blvd and closest legal parking is
> under the Van Wyck, a bit north of where you enter from College Point Blvd.
>
>
>
> Hopefully, this is a Brewer's Sparrow.
>
>
>
> Good Birding,
>
> Corey Finger
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[nysbirds-l] Montauk- Ash Throated Flycatcher- yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

Currently being seen northwest corner of Fort Hill Cemetery.  Park in circle 
and head to right trail to top of hill, between boulders. Bird is in the 
thicket on right on path.
Eileen Schwinn
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!

[David Klauber]

and what about cross-posting to this forum, NYSbirds, for those of us who don't 
use ebird. It doesn't take that log to cut and paste from one forum to the next
 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:00:23 -0500
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Photos of rarities that everyone can see!!
From: fresha2...@gmail.com
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu

Hey everybody,
This is in relation to the issue brought up by Rick Cech regarding the photos 
of the Spizella not being initially posted in a place where they were easily 
findable and publicly accessible. This is a concern that we have seen voiced a 
lot recently, and it's not going away, as birding intel gets more and more 
fragmented between different streams of communication. A great way to solve 
this issue is by putting your photos (or other media) into your eBird 
checklists. This USED to be only "pretty easy," since you had to put them onto 
a third party website, like Flickr, Picasa, etc. and then embed the links in 
your checklist, but now it is "very easy" since all you have to do is drag your 
photo from your computer directly into the checklist.
This then makes them viewable for everybody, as well as VERY easy to search 
for, by using the intuitive search functions on the eBird site. For a really 
good summary of why you should always put your documentation directly into your 
checklist, please read here: 
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/rich_media_launch/


One really good reason that I will mention here is that in general it saves 
people lots of time during the review process: you save time by not having to 
be involved in a back-and forth with an eBird moderator and having to E-Mail 
photos separately, eBird reviewers save time by not having to fish for 
additional details (which can sometimes feels like pulling teeth), and all 
people interested in the sighting save time by being able to quickly see the 
highest quality documentation possible very quickly, rather than poking around 
elsewhere online or asking other people "in the loop" about something they're 
interested in (democratize the documentation for all!).
Here are a couple of examples of checklists, one a media-rich checklist, and 
one a non media-rich checklist, The media-rich one would be very helpful for 
incredulous people looking back in 100 years and wondering if the birders were 
actually seeing the stuff they claimed to see nowadays, (even the stuff that 
seems common now might one day be remarkable):
Media-rich (including photos, audio, and photo of 
spectrograph):http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25958695
Media-dull (at the time of posting, perhaps this will change with 
time!):http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S26392399

This isn't meant to call anybody specific out, as many people choose to make 
checklists like the latter. This goes for many people who post photos elsewhere 
(including places that aren;t accessible to the public, like private facebook 
groups or twitter accounts) or don't post at all: think about which of the 
preceding checklists would better satiate your interest and thirst for 
knowledge if you looked at these in a hundred years without having any 
firsthand knowledge of the day-to-day goings on of our many different rarity 
groups, be it facebook, yahoo groups, cornell-run listservs, twitter groups, or 
text message groups. The former is objectively better.
For more information on the very quick and simple task of uploading photos and 
audio, here are two how-to links (the first should cover everything, and the 
second explains more about audio):
http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/973966

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/addaudio/

Good Birding (and documenting!)-Doug Gochfeld. Brooklyn, NY.


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[nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

[David Klauber]

 I've done a bit of research on this and I think identification to species is 
inconclusive, as there seem to be characteristics that favor  both Clay-colored 
and Brewer's. There is more confusion because I think the side of the face that 
shows a black semi-circle might be feather bases caused by the wind or ruffled 
feathers, since neither species shows this. Like almost everyone else I don't 
have extensive experience with either species, especially Brewer's, but here's 
what I've found from checking the Nat Geo, Sibley, Stokes photo guide, and 
Rising & Beadle's sparrow guide. 
 
There seems to be weak streaking on the gray nape, which I think should be 
stronger for Brewer's, but shouldn't be there for Clay-colored. The eye-ring 
seems a bit weak for Brewer's as well - could it be worn? The black streaks on 
the back are listed as good for Brewer's by Rising, etc, but Sibley paints 
Clay-colors with a similar pattern. Deborah Allen mentioned the tail looking 
short for Brewer's, and most books show Brewer's with a long tail. The overall 
color looks more like the grayish-brown of Brewer's. The face pattern doesn't 
look strong enough for Clay-color, but doesn't really match Brewer's either. 
 
The Stokes guide has a photo on page 666, bottom left, which comes pretty close 
to the Queens bird, but not quite. There is supposed to be a difference in the 
cheek color, but the previously mentioned black semicircle obscures this, 
although I think it's more gray (Brewer's) than buff (Clay-color). I don't know 
what to make of the faint blurry streaks on the side of the breast, but it does 
match the same Stokes photo. The pink bill is black on top, also good for 
Brewer's.
 
So to my eyes a real head-scratcher. Hybrid seems the easy way out, but I don't 
know much about worn or transitional plumages for either. 
In any event a very interesting bird, even if it's a dull LBJ.
  
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

[Steve Walter]

I had the opportunity to photograph a few Brewer's in Arizona in September
2012. I say Brewer's because they are expected there - vastly outnumbering
Clay-colored. But matching up some of the pictures to field guides was more
difficult than you would think, especially with few actual photographs to
compare to.  I have a few of my pictures available online still, if anyone
wants to compare. In one of them, the tail appears especially long. Also of
note is that the crown streaking looks finer to me than on the Queens bird.
Of course, age and time of year have to be taken into account.

 

The address is http://stevewalternature.com/steve/sparrows.htm . The
pictures to look at are labeled Las Cienagas 07, 08, and 09.

 

 

Steve Walter

 

From: bounce-120005318-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-120005318-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of David
Klauber
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 8:36 PM
To: NY Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Queens spizella sparrow

 

 I've done a bit of research on this and I think identification to species
is inconclusive, as there seem to be characteristics that favor  both
Clay-colored and Brewer's. There is more confusion because I think the side
of the face that shows a black semi-circle might be feather bases caused by
the wind or ruffled feathers, since neither species shows this. Like almost
everyone else I don't have extensive experience with either species,
especially Brewer's, but here's what I've found from checking the Nat Geo,
Sibley, Stokes photo guide, and Rising & Beadle's sparrow guide. 
 
There seems to be weak streaking on the gray nape, which I think should be
stronger for Brewer's, but shouldn't be there for Clay-colored. The eye-ring
seems a bit weak for Brewer's as well - could it be worn? The black streaks
on the back are listed as good for Brewer's by Rising, etc, but Sibley
paints Clay-colors with a similar pattern. Deborah Allen mentioned the tail
looking short for Brewer's, and most books show Brewer's with a long tail.
The overall color looks more like the grayish-brown of Brewer's. The face
pattern doesn't look strong enough for Clay-color, but doesn't really match
Brewer's either. 
 
The Stokes guide has a photo on page 666, bottom left, which comes pretty
close to the Queens bird, but not quite. There is supposed to be a
difference in the cheek color, but the previously mentioned black semicircle
obscures this, although I think it's more gray (Brewer's) than buff
(Clay-color). I don't know what to make of the faint blurry streaks on the
side of the breast, but it does match the same Stokes photo. The pink bill
is black on top, also good for Brewer's.
 
So to my eyes a real head-scratcher. Hybrid seems the easy way out, but I
don't know much about worn or transitional plumages for either. 
In any event a very interesting bird, even if it's a dull LBJ.

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[nysbirds-l] Ross's goose

[ebe6580017]

Currently being viewed on northwest area of Eastport lake. This is in Eastport 
long island.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ash-throated Flycatcher; Fort Hill Cemetery, Montauk, Suffolk

[Bruce]

Continues (12 Monday) on trail west of parking circle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 20, 2015, at 3:03 PM, mscheibe...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Continuing now along thicket worked slowly frommiddle easterly nearly 
> back to entrance road, mostly low 1-4' feet in brush
> Mike Scheibel
> Brookhaven 
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[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC, CBC preliminary

[Lynne Hertzog]

Here's the preliminary list from Central Park yesterday. We had a total of
54 species and 4,262 birds. Preliminary count is 98 participants.
Highlights were the Orange-crowned Warbler, Wilson's Warbler,
Black-and-white Warbler, Great Horned Owl, and the Ring-necked Duck (bolded
below). Some big misses include Peregrine Falcon and Sharp-shinned Hawk,
which we have as count week birds, and there was also noticeable absence of
several birds (incl. Eastern Towhees, Swamp Sparrows, Fox Sparrows, etc.).

We're working on the full New Jersey /Lower Hudson tally, those results
will be posted shortly.
Thanks so much to all the participants!

Debra Kriensky
Susan Elbin
NYC Audubon

Canada Goose - 196

Wood Duck - 1

Gadwall - 6

American Black Duck - 7

Mallard - 208

Northern Shoveler - 88

*Ring-necked Duck - 1*

Bufflehead - 8

Hooded Merganser - 4

Ruddy Duck - 307

Pied-billed Grebe - 1

Double-crested Cormorant - 3

Cooper's Hawk - 4

Red-tailed Hawk - 12

American Kestrel - 1

American Coot - 5

Ring-billed Gull - 214

Herring Gull - 114

Great Black-backed Gull - 12

Rock Pigeon - 548

Mourning Dove - 78

*Great Horned Owl - 1*

Belted Kingfisher - 1

Red-bellied Woodpecker - 38

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 14

Downy Woodpecker - 23

Hairy Woodpecker - 1

Northern Flicker - 7

Blue Jay - 157

American Crow - 16

Black-capped Chickadee - 25

Tufted Titmouse - 45

White-breasted Nuthatch - 52

Brown Creeper - 3

Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 4

Hermit Thrush - 6

American Robin - 117

Gray Catbird - 2

Northern Mockingbird - 14

Brown Thrasher - 3

European Starling - 289

Cedar Waxwing - 8

*Orange-crowned Warbler - 1*

*Wilson's Warbler - 1*

*Black-and-white Warbler - 1*

Song Sparrow - 11

White-throated Sparrow - 390

Dark-eyed Junco - 54

Northern Cardinal - 45

Red-winged Blackbird - 1

Common Grackle - 201

House Finch - 47

American Goldfinch - 39

House Sparrow - 827

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