Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Andrew Mason]

The Delaware-Otsego Audubon Soc. has been using trail cameras baited 
with road-killed deer to determine winter Golden Eagle presence in the 
Catskills and central NY over the past few years.  The numbers of ravens 
coming in to these sites is astonishing--hundreds at a time on 
occasion.  So many that they can strip a full grown deer carcass to the 
bones in a day.

When I began birding in the 1980s, it was necessary to travel to the 
Adirondacks to have a chance of seeing a raven--what a range expansion!

Here's a link to a photo of a modest congregation at one site: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/a3EAuqzCZgYkjN6D3.

Andy Mason


On 12/1/2017 3:25 PM, Andrew Block wrote:
> Nice sighting. It is very rare for around here to see so many in a 
> flock, but out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks 
> sometimes much larger usually at a feeding site such as a dead large 
> mammal.  I have personally seen a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine, 
> back in the mid 80's flying over the Unity College campus.  It blew my 
> mind when I realized they were ravens.  It's so great to have them 
> around here.
>
> Andrew
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
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> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629
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>
>
> 
> *From:* Shaibal Mitra 
> *To:* "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, 
> Suffolk Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated 
> zig-zags over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing 
> I saw this morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk 
> County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me 
> to see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising 
> our binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization 
> simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the 
> south of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at 
> another, but there were clearly more based on the way that portions of 
> the flock dipped in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 
> 21 in the frame. The group gradually dispersed westward and southward, 
> but ten or more were still visible at times over the next hour or so, 
> including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks 
> larger than a family group, even in places where they are common 
> (except maybe along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought 
> that 30 was about right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. 
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly 
> outnumbering ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 
> 30 American Crows would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Andrew Mason]

The Delaware-Otsego Audubon Soc. has been using trail cameras baited 
with road-killed deer to determine winter Golden Eagle presence in the 
Catskills and central NY over the past few years.  The numbers of ravens 
coming in to these sites is astonishing--hundreds at a time on 
occasion.  So many that they can strip a full grown deer carcass to the 
bones in a day.

When I began birding in the 1980s, it was necessary to travel to the 
Adirondacks to have a chance of seeing a raven--what a range expansion!

Here's a link to a photo of a modest congregation at one site: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/a3EAuqzCZgYkjN6D3.

Andy Mason


On 12/1/2017 3:25 PM, Andrew Block wrote:
> Nice sighting. It is very rare for around here to see so many in a 
> flock, but out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks 
> sometimes much larger usually at a feeding site such as a dead large 
> mammal.  I have personally seen a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine, 
> back in the mid 80's flying over the Unity College campus.  It blew my 
> mind when I realized they were ravens.  It's so great to have them 
> around here.
>
> Andrew
> *Andrew v. F. Block*
> /Consulting Naturalist/
> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
> Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629
> Phone: 914-963-3080; Cell: 914-319-9701
> www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
>
>
> 
> *From:* Shaibal Mitra 
> *To:* "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, 
> Suffolk Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated 
> zig-zags over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing 
> I saw this morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk 
> County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me 
> to see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising 
> our binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization 
> simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the 
> south of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at 
> another, but there were clearly more based on the way that portions of 
> the flock dipped in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 
> 21 in the frame. The group gradually dispersed westward and southward, 
> but ten or more were still visible at times over the next hour or so, 
> including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks 
> larger than a family group, even in places where they are common 
> (except maybe along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought 
> that 30 was about right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. 
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly 
> outnumbering ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 
> 30 American Crows would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[David Barrett]

The Holly Tree in question is in the vicinity -- just east, I believe -- of
the Gill Overlook on the screenshot.

You might want the "live" Google Maps version of my Central Park Birding
map, which you can pull up on your phone when you visit and GPS will show
you where you are on it:

https://goo.gl/iCGK2L

You also should follow the birding alerts from @BirdCentralPark on Twitter,
as these are used in Central Park and the Hammond's Flycatcher will be
tweeted there most frequently, if it is found.

David Barrett
Manhattan

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Robert Lewis rfer...@yahoo.com [ebirdsnyc]
 wrote:

>
>
> Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people
> tried today for the Hammond's.
>
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
> On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa <
> anders.pelto...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations
>
> https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM
>
> This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
>
> good birding,
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[David Barrett]

The Holly Tree in question is in the vicinity -- just east, I believe -- of
the Gill Overlook on the screenshot.

You might want the "live" Google Maps version of my Central Park Birding
map, which you can pull up on your phone when you visit and GPS will show
you where you are on it:

https://goo.gl/iCGK2L

You also should follow the birding alerts from @BirdCentralPark on Twitter,
as these are used in Central Park and the Hammond's Flycatcher will be
tweeted there most frequently, if it is found.

David Barrett
Manhattan

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Robert Lewis rfer...@yahoo.com [ebirdsnyc]
 wrote:

>
>
> Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people
> tried today for the Hammond's.
>
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
> On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa <
> anders.pelto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations
>
> https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM
>
> This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
>
> good birding,
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[Robert Lewis]

Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people tried 
today for the Hammond's.
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY
 

On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa 
 wrote:  
 
 I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations 
https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM

This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[Robert Lewis]

Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people tried 
today for the Hammond's.
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY
 

On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa 
 wrote:  
 
 I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations 
https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM

This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
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[nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[Anders Peltomaa]

I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations

https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM

This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.

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[nysbirds-l] Ramble Map with Named Locations

[Anders Peltomaa]

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[nysbirds-l] NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017

[Ben Cacace]

- RBA
* New York
* New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
* Dec. 1, 2017
* NYNY1712.01

- Birds mentioned
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER+
TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE+
WESTERN TANAGER+
(+ Details requested by NYSARC)

GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE
ROSS'S GOOSE
Cackling Goose
Eurasian Wigeon
HUDSONIAN GODWIT
Parasitic Jaeger
Black-legged Kittiwake
BLACK-HEADED GULL
LITTLE GULL
Iceland Gull
Lesser Black-backed Gull
Red-headed Woodpecker
Common Raven
LAPLAND LONGSPUR
Ovenbird
Northern Waterthrush
Black-and-white Warbler
PROTHONOTARY WARBLER
Orange-crowned Warbler
Nashville Warbler
Common Yellowthroat
Northern Parula
Magnolia Warbler
Black-throated Green Warbler
Canada Warbler
Wilson's Warbler
CLAY-COLORED SPARROW
Dickcissel
Boat-tailed Grackle

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You can also send reports and digital image files via email to
nysarc44(at)nybirds{dot}org.

If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or
sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:

Gary Chapin - Secretary
NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
125 Pine Springs Drive
Ticonderoga, NY 12883

Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
Number: (212) 979-3070

Compilers: Tom Burke and Tony Lauro
Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County

Transcriber: Ben Cacace

BEGIN TAPE

Greetings. This is the New York Rare Bird Alert for Friday, December 1st
2017 at 8pm. The highlights of today's tape are HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER,
WESTERN TANAGER, TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE, LITTLE GULL, BLACK-HEADED GULL,
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE, ROSS'S GOOSE, GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE, HUDSONIAN
GODWIT, PROTHONOTARY WARBLER, LAPLAND LONGSPUR and CLAY-COLORED SPARROW. A
good week for birds.

First spotted near the Ramble in Central Park early last Sunday a small
empidonax flycatcher was accommodating enough to enable sufficiently
detailed photos that soon determined its identity as a HAMMOND'S
FLYCATCHER. A third record for New York State. Seen everyday since Sunday
the flycatcher has been elusive but when being observed it has usually been
in areas of the Ramble with such names as the Oven, the Gill, the Rustic
Shelter and the Swampy Pin Oak. This latter, a tree that hasn't existed
since Hurricane Sandy. The above areas are all near Azalea Pond just west
of the Boat House on Central Park Lake. But today the flycatcher also
ventured a little farther north to the south end of the Maintenance Meadow
but was seen later again near Azalea Pond. Hopefully for the weekend folks
will be able to track the bird and direct arriving birders to its current
location.

The WESTERN TANAGER at the Alley Pond Environmental Center was being seen
at least through Tuesday along the trail that enters the east side of the
park right after crossing the Northern Boulevard bridge over the creek.
Parking is at the center on the west side of the creek. Interestingly a
second WESTERN TANAGER has been visiting a private residence in Stony Brook
first seen on November 17th but only subsequently and positively identified.

Staying with the landbirds. A male PROTHONOTARY WARBLER has been present at
least since last Friday at the Suffolk County Farm and Education Center off
Yaphank Avenue in Yaphank. Two other interesting reports from that location
during the week both accompanied by photographs were a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE
last Sunday and a CLAY-COLORED SPARROW today. A gathering of over 30 COMMON
RAVENS seen there today was also quite impressive.

A PINK-FOOTED GOOSE was found with Canadas in Montauk Tuesday this on the
south side of Route 27 at the Deep Hollow Ranch. A ROSS'S GOOSE was
photographed in Connetquot River State Park in Great River last Saturday.
Single GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE continue to be seen at Belmont Lake
State Park and Tung Ting Pond in Centerport as well as at other sites.
Seemingly widespread CACKLING GEESE include 2 in Prospect Park last Sunday.
Both drake EURASIAN WIGEON continue to be noted at Jamaica Bay Wildlife
Refuge, on Mill Pond in West Sayville, on Fresh Pond in Fort Salonga and on
Eastport Lake.

Among the gulls, missed on last week's tape, was a subadult LITTLE GULL off
Montauk Point on November 23rd and the presumed Pelham Bay BLACK-HEADED
GULL was back at Five Islands Park in New Rochelle last Saturday. An
ICELAND GULL was at Playland Park in Rye Tuesday and at Riis Park last
Saturday a single BLACK-LEGGED KITTIWAKE was joined by an ICELAND and two
LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULLS. The latter still around in low numbers. A
PARASITIC JAEGER was off Jones Beach West End Saturday. At least one
HUDSONIAN GODWIT continued at Heckscher State Park through last Saturday.

An immature RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was still at Green-wood Cemetery in
Brooklyn Wednesday. A DICKCISSEL visited Robert Moses State Park last
Saturday and LAPLAND 

[nysbirds-l] NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017

[Ben Cacace]

- RBA
* New York
* New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
* Dec. 1, 2017
* NYNY1712.01

- Birds mentioned
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER+
TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE+
WESTERN TANAGER+
(+ Details requested by NYSARC)

GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE
ROSS'S GOOSE
Cackling Goose
Eurasian Wigeon
HUDSONIAN GODWIT
Parasitic Jaeger
Black-legged Kittiwake
BLACK-HEADED GULL
LITTLE GULL
Iceland Gull
Lesser Black-backed Gull
Red-headed Woodpecker
Common Raven
LAPLAND LONGSPUR
Ovenbird
Northern Waterthrush
Black-and-white Warbler
PROTHONOTARY WARBLER
Orange-crowned Warbler
Nashville Warbler
Common Yellowthroat
Northern Parula
Magnolia Warbler
Black-throated Green Warbler
Canada Warbler
Wilson's Warbler
CLAY-COLORED SPARROW
Dickcissel
Boat-tailed Grackle

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Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
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Compilers: Tom Burke and Tony Lauro
Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County

Transcriber: Ben Cacace

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Greetings. This is the New York Rare Bird Alert for Friday, December 1st
2017 at 8pm. The highlights of today's tape are HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER,
WESTERN TANAGER, TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE, LITTLE GULL, BLACK-HEADED GULL,
PINK-FOOTED GOOSE, ROSS'S GOOSE, GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE, HUDSONIAN
GODWIT, PROTHONOTARY WARBLER, LAPLAND LONGSPUR and CLAY-COLORED SPARROW. A
good week for birds.

First spotted near the Ramble in Central Park early last Sunday a small
empidonax flycatcher was accommodating enough to enable sufficiently
detailed photos that soon determined its identity as a HAMMOND'S
FLYCATCHER. A third record for New York State. Seen everyday since Sunday
the flycatcher has been elusive but when being observed it has usually been
in areas of the Ramble with such names as the Oven, the Gill, the Rustic
Shelter and the Swampy Pin Oak. This latter, a tree that hasn't existed
since Hurricane Sandy. The above areas are all near Azalea Pond just west
of the Boat House on Central Park Lake. But today the flycatcher also
ventured a little farther north to the south end of the Maintenance Meadow
but was seen later again near Azalea Pond. Hopefully for the weekend folks
will be able to track the bird and direct arriving birders to its current
location.

The WESTERN TANAGER at the Alley Pond Environmental Center was being seen
at least through Tuesday along the trail that enters the east side of the
park right after crossing the Northern Boulevard bridge over the creek.
Parking is at the center on the west side of the creek. Interestingly a
second WESTERN TANAGER has been visiting a private residence in Stony Brook
first seen on November 17th but only subsequently and positively identified.

Staying with the landbirds. A male PROTHONOTARY WARBLER has been present at
least since last Friday at the Suffolk County Farm and Education Center off
Yaphank Avenue in Yaphank. Two other interesting reports from that location
during the week both accompanied by photographs were a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE
last Sunday and a CLAY-COLORED SPARROW today. A gathering of over 30 COMMON
RAVENS seen there today was also quite impressive.

A PINK-FOOTED GOOSE was found with Canadas in Montauk Tuesday this on the
south side of Route 27 at the Deep Hollow Ranch. A ROSS'S GOOSE was
photographed in Connetquot River State Park in Great River last Saturday.
Single GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE continue to be seen at Belmont Lake
State Park and Tung Ting Pond in Centerport as well as at other sites.
Seemingly widespread CACKLING GEESE include 2 in Prospect Park last Sunday.
Both drake EURASIAN WIGEON continue to be noted at Jamaica Bay Wildlife
Refuge, on Mill Pond in West Sayville, on Fresh Pond in Fort Salonga and on
Eastport Lake.

Among the gulls, missed on last week's tape, was a subadult LITTLE GULL off
Montauk Point on November 23rd and the presumed Pelham Bay BLACK-HEADED
GULL was back at Five Islands Park in New Rochelle last Saturday. An
ICELAND GULL was at Playland Park in Rye Tuesday and at Riis Park last
Saturday a single BLACK-LEGGED KITTIWAKE was joined by an ICELAND and two
LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULLS. The latter still around in low numbers. A
PARASITIC JAEGER was off Jones Beach West End Saturday. At least one
HUDSONIAN GODWIT continued at Heckscher State Park through last Saturday.

An immature RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was still at Green-wood Cemetery in
Brooklyn Wednesday. A DICKCISSEL visited Robert Moses State Park last
Saturday and LAPLAND 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Steve Walter]

Interesting bit of information. I seem to recall that it's said that one way
to separate Chihuahuan from Common Raven in Arizona / New Mexico is that
only Chihuahuans occur in flocks. Maybe that is true in that area, but could
this cast some doubt on that?

 

I didn't think about it all that much a few weeks ago when hawk watching
near Port Jervis, NY, but at one point a group of 9 or 10 Common Ravens flew
by. A couple of years ago, upon coming back from this trip, I reported on up
to 40 apparently going to a roost near the pull off south of the Bear
Mountain Bridge. No sign of that on this year's trip (although up to 50
Black Vultures likely going to a roost closer to the bridge made for an
impressive sight).

 

 

Steve Walter 

 

  


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Steve Walter]

Interesting bit of information. I seem to recall that it's said that one way
to separate Chihuahuan from Common Raven in Arizona / New Mexico is that
only Chihuahuans occur in flocks. Maybe that is true in that area, but could
this cast some doubt on that?

 

I didn't think about it all that much a few weeks ago when hawk watching
near Port Jervis, NY, but at one point a group of 9 or 10 Common Ravens flew
by. A couple of years ago, upon coming back from this trip, I reported on up
to 40 apparently going to a roost near the pull off south of the Bear
Mountain Bridge. No sign of that on this year's trip (although up to 50
Black Vultures likely going to a roost closer to the bridge made for an
impressive sight).

 

 

Steve Walter 

 

  


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[nysbirds-l] NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend

[Shaibal Mitra]

Sean's report of his and Doug's efforts in Brooklyn yesterday reminded me of 
the "Long Island Rarity Roundup" Doug proposed six years ago, which proved to 
be a lot of fun.

His original conception of it was described like this:


>
Hey all,
In case you're not familiar with a rarity roundup, it is essentially a 
Christmas Count, except instead of counting all the individuals you look for 
rarities. So basically, in a selected region, everyone covers one area (or more 
if possible) and instead of having to count, say, 13,573 Brant you just do what 
many of us already tend towards anyway, which is combing areas for rarities. 
It's basically a birding scavenger hunt! The other difference is that it is 
done in the window when amazing vagrants show up. While this of course can be 
just about any month, they seem concentrated in November in the Northeast 
(mid-late October as well, but more-so in November).

The Maryland birding community has been doing a rarity roundup for several 
years now, and Cape May will be doing it for the 2nd year in a row next week. 
The Maryland one is confined to just Worcester County, while the Cape May one, 
I believe, includes 2 counties (Cape May and Cumberland).

Both of these roundups are held over the course of 2 days, maximizing 
rarity-ness.
One for Region 10 would involve up to 7 counties, which might be a bit 
excessive. However, I think that at least a couple of counties would be doable, 
or even 2 per day. A county like Brooklyn could, while it has a great recent 
history of vagrants (though no November ones that I can think of strangely 
enough), be covered in one day by only a couple of people, and Manhattan and 
even the Bronx are the same. The Counties that would be more effort intensive 
are Nassau and Suffolk.

After all is said and done we would gather for an after-count 
tally/discussion/drunken revelry/hanging out somewhere centrally located.

Below I will attach the text of the E-Mails that went out concerning the 
Maryland and Cape May ones this year. They (especially the Maryland one) are 
worth the couple of minutes it takes to read through them. Unfortunately I 
can't find the E-Mail from the Cape May one from last year which was, like this 
one, a bit of an introduction to the concept.

This E-Mail is to gauge the interest level of local birders, and to start a 
dialogue about ideas for how big of one we could get away with while still 
maintaining reasonably good coverage, as well as (very importantly) where the 
after party festivities would be held.

Thoughts? ReadySetGo!
-Doug
>>


Given that familiarity with eBird has greatly increased since 2011, I would 
suggest that people simply cover one or a few potentially productive patches, 
ideally covering about 0.5 miles over approximately one hour.  It's much easier 
to do simple analyses and comparisons by hand if people divide their effort 
into these sorts of comparable checklists. For instance, we can examine how 
detection of particular species varies from county to county or from hour to 
hour through the day. Doug thinks insectivores will be more active in the late 
morning; I counter that my three target species of Tyrannus will most likely be 
found around 08:00.  If all goes well, everyone will collapse onto a 
mega-rarity somewhere, so the data will be hopelessly non-independent anyway! 
The two days of this weekend will likely produce some significant discoveries.

Late fall 2017 is a MUST-BIRD opportunity for people interested in scarce and 
rare birds. A fascinating incursion of Indigo Buntings, Blue Grosbeaks, Summer 
Tanagers, Hooded Warblers, Northern Parulas, and White-eyed Vireos occurred in 
early November and is still being sorted out. Even if we don't find anything of 
great rarity, it is a very productive exercise to rehearse one's CBC routes in 
late Nov/early Dec. Some CBC targets (e.g., Palm Warbler and Ruby-crowned 
Kinglet) are easier to find now than they will be in a few weeks. Others (e.g., 
Eastern Towhee and Gray Catbird) are actually scarcer now than they will be 
after mainland refugia freeze up during December. Check it out!

Round-up wrap-ups are a lot of fun, and we plan to gather on at least one night 
at Sea Levels, in Brightwaters, Suffolk County. We will post an update after we 
get our itinerary straightened out, and encourage others to do the same.

Shai Mitra, Patricia Lindsay, and Doug Gochfeld

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[nysbirds-l] NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend

[Shaibal Mitra]

Sean's report of his and Doug's efforts in Brooklyn yesterday reminded me of 
the "Long Island Rarity Roundup" Doug proposed six years ago, which proved to 
be a lot of fun.

His original conception of it was described like this:


>
Hey all,
In case you're not familiar with a rarity roundup, it is essentially a 
Christmas Count, except instead of counting all the individuals you look for 
rarities. So basically, in a selected region, everyone covers one area (or more 
if possible) and instead of having to count, say, 13,573 Brant you just do what 
many of us already tend towards anyway, which is combing areas for rarities. 
It's basically a birding scavenger hunt! The other difference is that it is 
done in the window when amazing vagrants show up. While this of course can be 
just about any month, they seem concentrated in November in the Northeast 
(mid-late October as well, but more-so in November).

The Maryland birding community has been doing a rarity roundup for several 
years now, and Cape May will be doing it for the 2nd year in a row next week. 
The Maryland one is confined to just Worcester County, while the Cape May one, 
I believe, includes 2 counties (Cape May and Cumberland).

Both of these roundups are held over the course of 2 days, maximizing 
rarity-ness.
One for Region 10 would involve up to 7 counties, which might be a bit 
excessive. However, I think that at least a couple of counties would be doable, 
or even 2 per day. A county like Brooklyn could, while it has a great recent 
history of vagrants (though no November ones that I can think of strangely 
enough), be covered in one day by only a couple of people, and Manhattan and 
even the Bronx are the same. The Counties that would be more effort intensive 
are Nassau and Suffolk.

After all is said and done we would gather for an after-count 
tally/discussion/drunken revelry/hanging out somewhere centrally located.

Below I will attach the text of the E-Mails that went out concerning the 
Maryland and Cape May ones this year. They (especially the Maryland one) are 
worth the couple of minutes it takes to read through them. Unfortunately I 
can't find the E-Mail from the Cape May one from last year which was, like this 
one, a bit of an introduction to the concept.

This E-Mail is to gauge the interest level of local birders, and to start a 
dialogue about ideas for how big of one we could get away with while still 
maintaining reasonably good coverage, as well as (very importantly) where the 
after party festivities would be held.

Thoughts? ReadySetGo!
-Doug
>>


Given that familiarity with eBird has greatly increased since 2011, I would 
suggest that people simply cover one or a few potentially productive patches, 
ideally covering about 0.5 miles over approximately one hour.  It's much easier 
to do simple analyses and comparisons by hand if people divide their effort 
into these sorts of comparable checklists. For instance, we can examine how 
detection of particular species varies from county to county or from hour to 
hour through the day. Doug thinks insectivores will be more active in the late 
morning; I counter that my three target species of Tyrannus will most likely be 
found around 08:00.  If all goes well, everyone will collapse onto a 
mega-rarity somewhere, so the data will be hopelessly non-independent anyway! 
The two days of this weekend will likely produce some significant discoveries.

Late fall 2017 is a MUST-BIRD opportunity for people interested in scarce and 
rare birds. A fascinating incursion of Indigo Buntings, Blue Grosbeaks, Summer 
Tanagers, Hooded Warblers, Northern Parulas, and White-eyed Vireos occurred in 
early November and is still being sorted out. Even if we don't find anything of 
great rarity, it is a very productive exercise to rehearse one's CBC routes in 
late Nov/early Dec. Some CBC targets (e.g., Palm Warbler and Ruby-crowned 
Kinglet) are easier to find now than they will be in a few weeks. Others (e.g., 
Eastern Towhee and Gray Catbird) are actually scarcer now than they will be 
after mainland refugia freeze up during December. Check it out!

Round-up wrap-ups are a lot of fun, and we plan to gather on at least one night 
at Sea Levels, in Brightwaters, Suffolk County. We will post an update after we 
get our itinerary straightened out, and encourage others to do the same.

Shai Mitra, Patricia Lindsay, and Doug Gochfeld

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[nysbirds-l] RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017

[David Suggs]

- RBA
* New York
* Buffalo
* 12/01/2017
* NYBU1712.01
- Birds mentioned

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  Common Loon
  Horned Grebe
  Red-necked Grebe
  Bl.-cr. Night-Heron
  Harlequin Duck
  Peregrine Falcon
  Sanderling
  Phalarope species
  Franklin's Gull
  Bonaparte's Gull
  Iceland Gull
  L. Black-b. Gull
  Glaucous Gull
  Black-leg. Kittiwake
  Common Tern
  Snowy Owl
  Common Raven
  Eastern Bluebird
  American Robin
  White-thr. Sparrow
  Dark-eyed Junco
  Pine Siskin

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  Hotline: Buffalo Bird Report at the Buffalo Museum of Science
  Date: 12/01/2017
  Number: 716-896-1271
  To Report: Same
  Compiler: David F. Suggs
  Coverage: Western New York and adjacent Ontario
  Website: www.BuffaloOrnithologicalSociety.org

  Friday, December 1, 2017

  The Buffalo Bird Report is a service provided
  by your Buffalo Museum of Science and the
  Buffalo Ornithological Society. To contact the
  Science Museum, call 896-5200. Press the pound
  key to report sightings before the end of this
  report.

  Highlights of November reports from the Niagara
  Frontier Region, primarily from the Niagara
  River.

  At the source of the river in Buffalo, at least
  four SNOWY OWLS between the Erie Basin Marina
  and the offshore Donnelly's Pier. Also at the
  marina, ICELAND GULL, plus COMMON LOON, HORNED
  GREBE, SANDERLING, and L. BLACK-B. GULL. Nearby
  on the Buffalo River, four BL.-CR. NIGHT-
  HERONS.

  Off Unity Island in Buffalo's Black Rock
  section, one or two FRANKLIN'S GULLS during the
  month, among a flock of BONAPARTE'S GULLS at
  the railroad bridge and north end of the
  island. Also COMMON LOON and RED-NECKED GREBE
  at Unity Island.

  Early in the month, four PHALAROPES at the
  Small Boat Harbor in Buffalo, and seven COMMON
  TERNS lingering at Beaver Island State Park on
  Grand Island.

  At Niagara Falls, November 26, a juvenile
  BLACK-LEG. KITTIWAKE below the Horseshoe Falls,
  viewed from Ontario. Four, male HARLEQUIN DUCKS
  above the falls near the stranded barge, and a
  GLAUCOUS GULL off the Three Sisters Islands at
  Goat Island.

  On the lower Niagara River, 10 ICELAND GULLS at
  the power plants.

  Other reports in November - From Buffalo, PIE-
  BILLED GREBE and WOOD DUCK at Delaware Park
  Lake, and two COMMON RAVENS and a PEREGRINE
  FALCON at the Richardson Complex on Elmwood
  Avenue in Buffalo. PINE SISKIN, WHITE-THR.
  SPARROW, AMERICAN ROBIN and DARK-EYED JUNCO
  in a yard near the Buffalo airport. And, a
  flock of EASTERN BLUEBIRDS at Sprague Brook
  Park in southern Erie County.

  The Bird Report will be updated Thursday
  evening, December 7. Please call in your
  sightings by noon Thursday. You may report
  sightings after the tone. Thank you for calling
  and reporting.

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[nysbirds-l] RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017

[David Suggs]

- RBA
* New York
* Buffalo
* 12/01/2017
* NYBU1712.01
- Birds mentioned

  ---
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  dsu...@buffaloornithologicalsociety.org
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  Common Loon
  Horned Grebe
  Red-necked Grebe
  Bl.-cr. Night-Heron
  Harlequin Duck
  Peregrine Falcon
  Sanderling
  Phalarope species
  Franklin's Gull
  Bonaparte's Gull
  Iceland Gull
  L. Black-b. Gull
  Glaucous Gull
  Black-leg. Kittiwake
  Common Tern
  Snowy Owl
  Common Raven
  Eastern Bluebird
  American Robin
  White-thr. Sparrow
  Dark-eyed Junco
  Pine Siskin

- Transcript
  Hotline: Buffalo Bird Report at the Buffalo Museum of Science
  Date: 12/01/2017
  Number: 716-896-1271
  To Report: Same
  Compiler: David F. Suggs
  Coverage: Western New York and adjacent Ontario
  Website: www.BuffaloOrnithologicalSociety.org

  Friday, December 1, 2017

  The Buffalo Bird Report is a service provided
  by your Buffalo Museum of Science and the
  Buffalo Ornithological Society. To contact the
  Science Museum, call 896-5200. Press the pound
  key to report sightings before the end of this
  report.

  Highlights of November reports from the Niagara
  Frontier Region, primarily from the Niagara
  River.

  At the source of the river in Buffalo, at least
  four SNOWY OWLS between the Erie Basin Marina
  and the offshore Donnelly's Pier. Also at the
  marina, ICELAND GULL, plus COMMON LOON, HORNED
  GREBE, SANDERLING, and L. BLACK-B. GULL. Nearby
  on the Buffalo River, four BL.-CR. NIGHT-
  HERONS.

  Off Unity Island in Buffalo's Black Rock
  section, one or two FRANKLIN'S GULLS during the
  month, among a flock of BONAPARTE'S GULLS at
  the railroad bridge and north end of the
  island. Also COMMON LOON and RED-NECKED GREBE
  at Unity Island.

  Early in the month, four PHALAROPES at the
  Small Boat Harbor in Buffalo, and seven COMMON
  TERNS lingering at Beaver Island State Park on
  Grand Island.

  At Niagara Falls, November 26, a juvenile
  BLACK-LEG. KITTIWAKE below the Horseshoe Falls,
  viewed from Ontario. Four, male HARLEQUIN DUCKS
  above the falls near the stranded barge, and a
  GLAUCOUS GULL off the Three Sisters Islands at
  Goat Island.

  On the lower Niagara River, 10 ICELAND GULLS at
  the power plants.

  Other reports in November - From Buffalo, PIE-
  BILLED GREBE and WOOD DUCK at Delaware Park
  Lake, and two COMMON RAVENS and a PEREGRINE
  FALCON at the Richardson Complex on Elmwood
  Avenue in Buffalo. PINE SISKIN, WHITE-THR.
  SPARROW, AMERICAN ROBIN and DARK-EYED JUNCO
  in a yard near the Buffalo airport. And, a
  flock of EASTERN BLUEBIRDS at Sprague Brook
  Park in southern Erie County.

  The Bird Report will be updated Thursday
  evening, December 7. Please call in your
  sightings by noon Thursday. You may report
  sightings after the tone. Thank you for calling
  and reporting.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Richard Guthrie]

There has been large groups of Common (really) Ravens at Minnewaska State
Park near New Paltz, Ulster County for the last few years. Scott Baldinger
has been keeping close tabs on them with his regular Tuesday Early Birders
Walks.

Richard Guthrie

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Kevin J. McGowan  wrote:

> Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago
> my first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland
> County. I realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York
> that the juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true in
> your area now.
>
> Kevin McGowan
> Ithaca
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-122096022-
> 3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS-L 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Richard Guthrie]

There has been large groups of Common (really) Ravens at Minnewaska State
Park near New Paltz, Ulster County for the last few years. Scott Baldinger
has been keeping close tabs on them with his regular Tuesday Early Birders
Walks.

Richard Guthrie

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Kevin J. McGowan  wrote:

> Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago
> my first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland
> County. I realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York
> that the juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true in
> your area now.
>
> Kevin McGowan
> Ithaca
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-122096022-
> 3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS-L 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prothonotary Warbler - Yes

[Jim Osterlund]

Following up on the earlier post, we found the warbler investigating recesses 
in the westernmost wall of the referenced building, which I believe to be the 
facility’s slaughterhouse, now disused.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prothonotary Warbler - Yes

[Jim Osterlund]

Following up on the earlier post, we found the warbler investigating recesses 
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facility’s slaughterhouse, now disused.
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[nysbirds-l] NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)

[Ben Cacace]

Thanks to @Team_eBird for their dedication to keeping eBird.org running
smoothly and for the group of New York State hotspot moderators for their
time reviewing shared location suggestions.

The wiki page site was developed to access data on eBird.org and in places
it includes additional links to birding resources at the county and
location levels. If you have any suggestions for additional links please
send them to me off list.

All County pages currently have links for the Illustrated Checklists and
links to both Images and Audio from the Macaulay Library.If useful let me
know and I'll add these to the location level pages.

*Species totals* have been updated for all county pages. This includes the
total number of species with an equivalent color code highlighting the
county name based on colors used on eBird maps. The alphabetical list of
counties on the main page has been updated with total spp. #.

*Hotspot pages*: All location pages have been updated on the wiki. These
include 821 pages representing a total of 1,686 out of 5,948 hotspots
(28.4%). Updates involve *# of species and color codings* based on species
# along with updated 2017 periods on the bar chart tables displaying the:

• Current Month: Dec./2017
• Prior Month: Nov./2017
• the current two month period Nov.-Dec./2017
• along with the current year: 2017.

For the following counties there are individual 'dynamic' wiki pages for
the Top "10" locations at the top of the list of shared locations: Cayuga,
Erie, Monroe, Niagara, Orange, Oswego, Seneca, Tompkins, Kings (Brooklyn),
Queens, Richmond (Staten Island), Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Westchester
and New York (Borough of Manhattan) Counties have all shared locations
linked to wikipages.

Counties with 'static' pages do not need to be maintained on a monthly
basis. These include pages for the Top "10" locations and includes Albany,
Bronx, Broome, Chautauqua, Delaware, Dutchess, Essex, Genesee, Hamilton,
Jefferson, Oneida, Onondaga, Ontario, Rockland, St. Lawrence, Saratoga,
Sullivan, Ulster & Wayne with Putnam County currently having all shared
locations linked to wikipages. Essex and Rockland are newly added since
last month's update.

An *alphabetical list of all hotspots* (5,948) can be found on a single
page. Links exist for any hotspot with a wikipage. Clicking the county name
to the right of any hotspot will bring up the county page showing all
hotspots for the county. A link to the alphabetical list page is at the
bottom of this message. There is a link to the page at the top of the New
York State page.

*Bar Charts (Species Lists)*: For all county and top 10 location pages
there's a table showing the months, seasons and several time frames for the
current year. Clicking any of these links will bring up a complete list of
species and other taxa with bar charts representing abundance. To see a
list of species for *all* periods click on the name above the months i.e.
'New York State (481 spp.)' or 'Livingston County (262 spp.)'.

*Maps of sightings*: After bringing up a bar chart list you'll see a MAP
button to the right of each species. Clicking this will produce a map of
the latest sightings. Red icons show sightings within the past 30 days.
Click on the icons to see a list of who reported each species and click on
'Checklist' to view their submission. Click on 'Explore Rich Media' in the
right sidebar to view locations with photos, audio or video. These also
exist for any multi-location page combining the hotspots associated with
the location i.e. Ashland Flats Wildlife Management Area in Jefferson
County with its 3 locations.

*Printable Checklists*: a link has been created to produce an eBird
checklist (PDF format) for all hotspots on the wiki site. Additional
details are in this email sent to the list <
https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg20153.html >.

*Tide Graphs* exist for New York County, Kings County (Brooklyn) and
Richmond County (Staten Island). There's a quick link to the tide graphs on
the "Go To >" line highlighted in blue for each location. If there are
multiple graphs on a page the left/right is generally north/south or
west/east. If you spot any issues please let me know off line.

Click '*Overview*' on any of the wiki pages to bring up a sortable list of
all species along with the latest checklists submitted and a list of the
Top eBirders. The default sort is for the latest additions to the State,
County or location.

Check out '*My Location Life List*', '*My County Life List*' and '*My State
Life List*' links on their respective pages.

For each location page click on '*Google Map Directions*' to bring up a
Google Map page. On Google Maps click 'Directions' then 'Transit' to plot a
public transportation route. By clicking 'More Options and Times' you can
refine your search. This also works with 'Driving' and 'Walking'.

• Home page: http://ebirding-nys.wikispaces.com/Birding+in+New+York
• Alphabetical list of hotspots:

[nysbirds-l] NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)

[Ben Cacace]

Thanks to @Team_eBird for their dedication to keeping eBird.org running
smoothly and for the group of New York State hotspot moderators for their
time reviewing shared location suggestions.

The wiki page site was developed to access data on eBird.org and in places
it includes additional links to birding resources at the county and
location levels. If you have any suggestions for additional links please
send them to me off list.

All County pages currently have links for the Illustrated Checklists and
links to both Images and Audio from the Macaulay Library.If useful let me
know and I'll add these to the location level pages.

*Species totals* have been updated for all county pages. This includes the
total number of species with an equivalent color code highlighting the
county name based on colors used on eBird maps. The alphabetical list of
counties on the main page has been updated with total spp. #.

*Hotspot pages*: All location pages have been updated on the wiki. These
include 821 pages representing a total of 1,686 out of 5,948 hotspots
(28.4%). Updates involve *# of species and color codings* based on species
# along with updated 2017 periods on the bar chart tables displaying the:

• Current Month: Dec./2017
• Prior Month: Nov./2017
• the current two month period Nov.-Dec./2017
• along with the current year: 2017.

For the following counties there are individual 'dynamic' wiki pages for
the Top "10" locations at the top of the list of shared locations: Cayuga,
Erie, Monroe, Niagara, Orange, Oswego, Seneca, Tompkins, Kings (Brooklyn),
Queens, Richmond (Staten Island), Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Westchester
and New York (Borough of Manhattan) Counties have all shared locations
linked to wikipages.

Counties with 'static' pages do not need to be maintained on a monthly
basis. These include pages for the Top "10" locations and includes Albany,
Bronx, Broome, Chautauqua, Delaware, Dutchess, Essex, Genesee, Hamilton,
Jefferson, Oneida, Onondaga, Ontario, Rockland, St. Lawrence, Saratoga,
Sullivan, Ulster & Wayne with Putnam County currently having all shared
locations linked to wikipages. Essex and Rockland are newly added since
last month's update.

An *alphabetical list of all hotspots* (5,948) can be found on a single
page. Links exist for any hotspot with a wikipage. Clicking the county name
to the right of any hotspot will bring up the county page showing all
hotspots for the county. A link to the alphabetical list page is at the
bottom of this message. There is a link to the page at the top of the New
York State page.

*Bar Charts (Species Lists)*: For all county and top 10 location pages
there's a table showing the months, seasons and several time frames for the
current year. Clicking any of these links will bring up a complete list of
species and other taxa with bar charts representing abundance. To see a
list of species for *all* periods click on the name above the months i.e.
'New York State (481 spp.)' or 'Livingston County (262 spp.)'.

*Maps of sightings*: After bringing up a bar chart list you'll see a MAP
button to the right of each species. Clicking this will produce a map of
the latest sightings. Red icons show sightings within the past 30 days.
Click on the icons to see a list of who reported each species and click on
'Checklist' to view their submission. Click on 'Explore Rich Media' in the
right sidebar to view locations with photos, audio or video. These also
exist for any multi-location page combining the hotspots associated with
the location i.e. Ashland Flats Wildlife Management Area in Jefferson
County with its 3 locations.

*Printable Checklists*: a link has been created to produce an eBird
checklist (PDF format) for all hotspots on the wiki site. Additional
details are in this email sent to the list <
https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg20153.html >.

*Tide Graphs* exist for New York County, Kings County (Brooklyn) and
Richmond County (Staten Island). There's a quick link to the tide graphs on
the "Go To >" line highlighted in blue for each location. If there are
multiple graphs on a page the left/right is generally north/south or
west/east. If you spot any issues please let me know off line.

Click '*Overview*' on any of the wiki pages to bring up a sortable list of
all species along with the latest checklists submitted and a list of the
Top eBirders. The default sort is for the latest additions to the State,
County or location.

Check out '*My Location Life List*', '*My County Life List*' and '*My State
Life List*' links on their respective pages.

For each location page click on '*Google Map Directions*' to bring up a
Google Map page. On Google Maps click 'Directions' then 'Transit' to plot a
public transportation route. By clicking 'More Options and Times' you can
refine your search. This also works with 'Driving' and 'Walking'.

• Home page: http://ebirding-nys.wikispaces.com/Birding+in+New+York
• Alphabetical list of hotspots:

Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Andrew Block]

Nice sighting.  It is very rare for around here to see so many in a flock, but 
out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks sometimes much larger 
usually at a feeding site such as a dead large mammal.  I have personally seen 
a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine, back in the mid 80's flying over the Unity 
College campus.  It blew my mind when I realized they were ravens.  It's so 
great to have them around here.
Andrew Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist
20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629
Phone: 914-963-3080; Cell: 914-319-9701 
www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums

  From: Shaibal Mitra 
 To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  
 Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
   
Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Andrew Block]

Nice sighting.  It is very rare for around here to see so many in a flock, but 
out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks sometimes much larger 
usually at a feeding site such as a dead large mammal.  I have personally seen 
a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine, back in the mid 80's flying over the Unity 
College campus.  It blew my mind when I realized they were ravens.  It's so 
great to have them around here.
Andrew Andrew v. F. Block
Consulting Naturalist
20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3
Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629
Phone: 914-963-3080; Cell: 914-319-9701 
www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums

  From: Shaibal Mitra 
 To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  
 Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
   
Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE:[nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Kevin J. McGowan]

Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago my 
first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland County. I 
realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York that the 
juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true in your area now.

Kevin McGowan
Ithaca

-Original Message-
From: bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE:[nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Kevin J. McGowan]

Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago my 
first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland County. I 
realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York that the 
juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true in your area now.

Kevin McGowan
Ithaca

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From: bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Rick]

On larger raven flocks (probably juvenile "gangs") See Bernd Heinrich's 
excellent "Ravens in Winter" (1989).

Rick

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 Original message 
From: Shaibal Mitra  
Date:12/01/2017  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  
Cc:  
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI 

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Rick]

On larger raven flocks (probably juvenile "gangs") See Bernd Heinrich's 
excellent "Ravens in Winter" (1989).

Rick

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device


 Original message 
From: Shaibal Mitra  
Date:12/01/2017  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  
Cc:  
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI 

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
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[nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Shaibal Mitra]

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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[nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI

[Shaibal Mitra]

Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags over 
open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this morning at 
the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.

Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to see 
them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our binoculars, 
we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"

A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south of 
property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but there 
were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped in and out 
of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The group gradually 
dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were still visible at times 
over the next hour or so, including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I 
was ok.

Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger than 
a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe along salmon 
runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about right for the total 
population on all of Long Island.

Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.

The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition. Whereas we 
used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering ossifragus, 
now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows would be quite 
notable anywhere on western LI.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
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[nysbirds-l] Prothonotary Warbler - Yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

The Suffolk County Farm, Yaphank, Prothonotary Warbler is currently being seen, 
feeding, in the area between the machine storage area and the concrete 
building, located just south of the pig sty.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston 

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[nysbirds-l] Prothonotary Warbler - Yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

The Suffolk County Farm, Yaphank, Prothonotary Warbler is currently being seen, 
feeding, in the area between the machine storage area and the concrete 
building, located just south of the pig sty.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston 

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Robert Lewis]

 
Great news!  I expect to be there by about 1:30 today.  I hope to see lots of 
other birders!
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY


On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:58:17 AM EST, Michael Zito 
 wrote:  
 
 Azalea pond right now.
mike z
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com [ebirdsnyc] 
 wrote:


     

Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the upstaters 
early tomorrow morning!

Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com 
[ebirdsnyc]  wrote:


 


9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar

It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Robert Lewis]

 
Great news!  I expect to be there by about 1:30 today.  I hope to see lots of 
other birders!
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY


On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:58:17 AM EST, Michael Zito 
 wrote:  
 
 Azalea pond right now.
mike z
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com [ebirdsnyc] 
 wrote:


     

Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the upstaters 
early tomorrow morning!

Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com 
[ebirdsnyc]  wrote:


 


9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar

It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...

Anders Peltomaa






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[nysbirds-l] Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29

[Andrew Baksh]

A late ones still hanging in there at Breezy and with various the CBCs closing 
in, it will be interesting to see what else might be uncovered given the recent 
weather.

NORTHERN PARULA  (1) - could it be the same bird I had on 10-8?

Orange-crowned Warbler (2) - seems to be a good year for them.

WHITE-EYED VIREO (1) 

Cheers,

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29

[Andrew Baksh]

A late ones still hanging in there at Breezy and with various the CBCs closing 
in, it will be interesting to see what else might be uncovered given the recent 
weather.

NORTHERN PARULA  (1) - could it be the same bird I had on 10-8?

Orange-crowned Warbler (2) - seems to be a good year for them.

WHITE-EYED VIREO (1) 

Cheers,

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [ebirdsnyc] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Michael Zito]

Azalea pond right now.
mike z

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com [ebirdsnyc] 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the 
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com 
> [ebirdsnyc]  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
>> 
>> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
>> 
>> Anders Peltomaa
> 
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[nysbirds-l] Re: [ebirdsnyc] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Michael Zito]

Azalea pond right now.
mike z

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com [ebirdsnyc] 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the 
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com 
> [ebirdsnyc]  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
>> 
>> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
>> 
>> Anders Peltomaa
> 
> __._,_.___
> Posted by: nathan o'reilly 
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[nysbirds-l] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Anders Peltomaa]

9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar

It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...

Anders Peltomaa

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[nysbirds-l] Hammond’s Flycatcher- YES

[Anders Peltomaa]

9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar

It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...

Anders Peltomaa

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[nysbirds-l] The Egret

[Larry Trachtenberg]

I'd like to share a  passage from a wonderful novel I recently read, "The 
Yellow Birds" by Kevin Powers, which takes its place alongside Tim Obrien's 
"The Things They Carried", Mailer's "The Naked and the Dead", and Remarque's 
"All Quiet on the Western Front"  -- this time the setting is the Iraq war. The 
protagonist is by a stream near his Richmond, VA home -- it's an magical 
experience most birders have had or at least can envision with a large wader 
but just can't express nearly as well:

"My feet were in the water, and the river ran docilely by and I was hardly a 
speck on the landscape and I was glad. An egret flew just over my shoulder and 
skimmed the water so close and I thought there was no way a body could be so 
close to the edge of a thing and stay there and be in control. But the tips of 
its wings skimmed along the water just the same. The egret didn't seem to mind 
what I believed, and it tilted some and disappeared into the glare of the gone 
sun and it was full of grace."

I see that Brett Bonkamp's brilliant bit of Hammond's flycatcher satire has 
been censored from the archives. Thus, it seems that when posting especially as 
the Holidays approach and an insane 2017 comes to a close -- and while I enjoy 
a good put down as much as the next person -- perhaps we should all give a 
listen once again to John Prine's "People Putting People Down". 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0VmRR8FHU  Or better yet, spend some time 
admiring his amazing canon listening to Sam Stone, (apropos the war novels, I 
guess), Hello in There, Souvenirs, Paradise, Angel from Montgomery or Lake 
Marie.

Good flycatchers to all.


L. Trachtenberg
Ossining



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