[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co}
Male currently on east side of East Pond below Raunt, with Laughing Gulls. Ken & Sue Feustel Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co}
Male currently on east side of East Pond below Raunt, with Laughing Gulls. Ken & Sue Feustel Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
With the usual caveats about reliably identifying a bird based solely a few photos stated up front. Andrew's images of today's Ruff show a bird with much more brightly colored legs than the individual he photographed back on the 15th. Soft part coloration typically decreases in intensity post-breeding in species where such changes occur, so I'd vote for today's bird indeed being a new arrival. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
Looks like Ken's photographed bird has a pronounced white ring around the base of its bill. Andrew's and my photos (Andrew's are much better) are not showing such a pronounced ring. Perhaps my eyes are decieving me, lighting is always a factor out on the East Pond, but are these two different birds? Just posing the question... -- Forwarded message -- From: ken feustel Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.) To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Sue and I birded the East Pond at JBWR this morning, starting at the south end and working our way along the east side of the pond. We found the birding to be better at the north end of the pond, where we quickly saw the *American Avocet.* An immature Peregrine Falcon kept us company for much of the walk up the pond, scattering the shorebirds in all directions. We had reached North Island when we noticed a *Ruff/Reeve* on the east side of the pond a little north of the island. We watched the bird for a while and I obtained some poor pictures before something scared the birds and we could not relocate the Ruff. There has been some speculation that this bird might be the same Reeve that was present earlier on the East Pond. Sexual dimorphism in Ruffs is well known, and over the years I have observed many (relative term) more Ruffs than Reeves. So size differences in Reeves is not something I have had much experience with. What struck us (and Andrew Baksh as well) was that this bird appeared larger than the Short-billed Dowitchers (11") around it. If this was a Reeve (10") you would expect it to be smaller than the dowitchers, although Paulson in "Shorebirds of North America" indicates that a female "is of dowitcher size" while a Ruff is similar in size to a Greater Yellowlegs (14"). I had observed the Reeve at the south end of the East Pond a few weeks ago in the company of Lesser Yellowlegs (10.5") and the birds appeared fairly similar in size. A Ruff (12") would seem to be a better fit for today's bird, at least in terms of size. My photograph of today's bird shows white feathering around the base of the bill, a feature that is largely missing from last week's Reeve. I have posted a poor photograph of the Ruff on my Flickr site. Compare the size of the Ruff to the sleeping dowitcher on the extreme left of the photo. A photo of the Reeve that was observed in July is also on the site at http://flickr.com/photos/kfeustel/ There is likely better photos of the Ruff/Reeve floating around, so stay tuned. Good Birding! Ken & Sue Feustel -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> *Archives:* The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> *Please submit your observations to **eBird*<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/> *!* -- -- Derek Rogers Sayville http://dereksnest.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
Sue and I birded the East Pond at JBWR this morning, starting at the south end and working our way along the east side of the pond. We found the birding to be better at the north end of the pond, where we quickly saw the American Avocet. An immature Peregrine Falcon kept us company for much of the walk up the pond, scattering the shorebirds in all directions. We had reached North Island when we noticed a Ruff/Reeve on the east side of the pond a little north of the island. We watched the bird for a while and I obtained some poor pictures before something scared the birds and we could not relocate the Ruff. There has been some speculation that this bird might be the same Reeve that was present earlier on the East Pond. Sexual dimorphism in Ruffs is well known, and over the years I have observed many (relative term) more Ruffs than Reeves. So size differences in Reeves is not something I have had much experience with. What struck us (and Andrew Baksh as well) was that this bird appeared larger than the Short-billed Dowitchers (11") around it. If this was a Reeve (10") you would expect it to be smaller than the dowitchers, although Paulson in "Shorebirds of North America" indicates that a female "is of dowitcher size" while a Ruff is similar in size to a Greater Yellowlegs (14"). I had observed the Reeve at the south end of the East Pond a few weeks ago in the company of Lesser Yellowlegs (10.5") and the birds appeared fairly similar in size. A Ruff (12") would seem to be a better fit for today's bird, at least in terms of size. My photograph of today's bird shows white feathering around the base of the bill, a feature that is largely missing from last week's Reeve. I have posted a poor photograph of the Ruff on my Flickr site. Compare the size of the Ruff to the sleeping dowitcher on the extreme left of the photo. A photo of the Reeve that was observed in July is also on the site at http://flickr.com/photos/kfeustel/ There is likely better photos of the Ruff/Reeve floating around, so stay tuned. Good Birding! Ken & Sue Feustel -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
Sue and I birded the East Pond at JBWR this morning, starting at the south end and working our way along the east side of the pond. We found the birding to be better at the north end of the pond, where we quickly saw the American Avocet. An immature Peregrine Falcon kept us company for much of the walk up the pond, scattering the shorebirds in all directions. We had reached North Island when we noticed a Ruff/Reeve on the east side of the pond a little north of the island. We watched the bird for a while and I obtained some poor pictures before something scared the birds and we could not relocate the Ruff. There has been some speculation that this bird might be the same Reeve that was present earlier on the East Pond. Sexual dimorphism in Ruffs is well known, and over the years I have observed many (relative term) more Ruffs than Reeves. So size differences in Reeves is not something I have had much experience with. What struck us (and Andrew Baksh as well) was that this bird appeared larger than the Short-billed Dowitchers (11) around it. If this was a Reeve (10) you would expect it to be smaller than the dowitchers, although Paulson in Shorebirds of North America indicates that a female is of dowitcher size while a Ruff is similar in size to a Greater Yellowlegs (14). I had observed the Reeve at the south end of the East Pond a few weeks ago in the company of Lesser Yellowlegs (10.5) and the birds appeared fairly similar in size. A Ruff (12) would seem to be a better fit for today's bird, at least in terms of size. My photograph of today's bird shows white feathering around the base of the bill, a feature that is largely missing from last week's Reeve. I have posted a poor photograph of the Ruff on my Flickr site. Compare the size of the Ruff to the sleeping dowitcher on the extreme left of the photo. A photo of the Reeve that was observed in July is also on the site at http://flickr.com/photos/kfeustel/ There is likely better photos of the Ruff/Reeve floating around, so stay tuned. Good Birding! Ken Sue Feustel -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
Looks like Ken's photographed bird has a pronounced white ring around the base of its bill. Andrew's and my photos (Andrew's are much better) are not showing such a pronounced ring. Perhaps my eyes are decieving me, lighting is always a factor out on the East Pond, but are these two different birds? Just posing the question... -- Forwarded message -- From: ken feustel feus...@optonline.net Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM Subject: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.) To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Sue and I birded the East Pond at JBWR this morning, starting at the south end and working our way along the east side of the pond. We found the birding to be better at the north end of the pond, where we quickly saw the *American Avocet.* An immature Peregrine Falcon kept us company for much of the walk up the pond, scattering the shorebirds in all directions. We had reached North Island when we noticed a *Ruff/Reeve* on the east side of the pond a little north of the island. We watched the bird for a while and I obtained some poor pictures before something scared the birds and we could not relocate the Ruff. There has been some speculation that this bird might be the same Reeve that was present earlier on the East Pond. Sexual dimorphism in Ruffs is well known, and over the years I have observed many (relative term) more Ruffs than Reeves. So size differences in Reeves is not something I have had much experience with. What struck us (and Andrew Baksh as well) was that this bird appeared larger than the Short-billed Dowitchers (11) around it. If this was a Reeve (10) you would expect it to be smaller than the dowitchers, although Paulson in Shorebirds of North America indicates that a female is of dowitcher size while a Ruff is similar in size to a Greater Yellowlegs (14). I had observed the Reeve at the south end of the East Pond a few weeks ago in the company of Lesser Yellowlegs (10.5) and the birds appeared fairly similar in size. A Ruff (12) would seem to be a better fit for today's bird, at least in terms of size. My photograph of today's bird shows white feathering around the base of the bill, a feature that is largely missing from last week's Reeve. I have posted a poor photograph of the Ruff on my Flickr site. Compare the size of the Ruff to the sleeping dowitcher on the extreme left of the photo. A photo of the Reeve that was observed in July is also on the site at http://flickr.com/photos/kfeustel/ There is likely better photos of the Ruff/Reeve floating around, so stay tuned. Good Birding! Ken Sue Feustel -- *NYSbirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html *Please submit your observations to **eBird*http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ *!* -- -- Derek Rogers Sayville http://dereksnest.blogspot.com -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re:[nysbirds-l] Ruff at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge (Queens Co.)
With the usual caveats about reliably identifying a bird based solely a few photos stated up front. Andrew's images of today's Ruff show a bird with much more brightly colored legs than the individual he photographed back on the 15th. Soft part coloration typically decreases in intensity post-breeding in species where such changes occur, so I'd vote for today's bird indeed being a new arrival. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --