[Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 certification query

2012-01-27 Thread Thiruselvam Velayutham
Hello,


* We are currently on 11gR1 RAC(11.1.0.7) on RHEL 5, using ocfs2 
(1..2.9) for datafiles, redo ,archive , ocr and voting disk.

* We plan to upgrade to 11gR2 (11.2.0.3), is 11gR2 RAC certified on 
OCFS2 ?

* If OCFS2 is not certified with 11gR2 what is the plan / roadmap for 
customers who wish to go to 11gR2?


thanks
Thiru

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Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 certification query

2012-01-27 Thread srinivas eeda
It should be, but please contact database support for certification 
questions.


On 1/27/2012 5:46 AM, Thiruselvam Velayutham wrote:


Hello,

·We are currently on 11gR1 RAC(11.1.0.7) on RHEL 5, using ocfs2 
(1.2.9) for datafiles, redo ,archive , ocr and voting disk.


·We plan to upgrade to 11gR2 (11.2.0.3), is 11gR2 RAC certified on OCFS2 ?

·If OCFS2 is not certified with 11gR2 what is the plan / roadmap for 
customers who wish to go to 11gR2?


thanks

Thiru

Thiruselvam V

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Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 certification query

2012-01-27 Thread Thiruselvam Velayutham
Thanks Srinivas for the quick response.  We raised SR, support indicated OCSF2 
is not supported with 11gR2, but while talking support analyst said it can be 
done.  We are not quite clear on this.

thanks
Thiru

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From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com 
[mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of srinivas eeda
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:48 PM
To: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 certification query

It should be, but please contact database support for certification questions.

On 1/27/2012 5:46 AM, Thiruselvam Velayutham wrote:
Hello,


We are currently on 11gR1 RAC(11.1.0.7) on RHEL 5, using ocfs2 (1.2.9) for 
datafiles, redo ,archive , ocr and voting disk.

We plan to upgrade to 11gR2 (11.2.0.3), is 11gR2 RAC certified on OCFS2 ?

If OCFS2 is not certified with 11gR2 what is the plan / roadmap for customers 
who wish to go to 11gR2?


thanks
Thiru

Thiruselvam V
KBACE Technologies (P) Ltd, JP Technopark, 3/1 Miller's 
Road,Bangalore,Karnataka,India
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] Help ! OCFS2 unstable on Disparate Hardware

2012-01-27 Thread Sérgio Surkamp
Hello Jorge,

 I have a mixture of 1.4.7 (EL 5.3) and 1.6.3 (EL 5.7 + UEK) and 
 something as simple as an umount has triggered random Node reboots,
 even on nodes that have Other OCFS2 mounts not shared by the
 rebooting nodes. You see the problem I have is that I have disparate
 hardware and some of these servers are even VM's.

Probably this is the source of your instability, you shouldn't mix
different versions of the filesystem in the same cluster stack, as it
*may* have network protocol incompatibility between the versions. Also
you should not mount the same filesystem with different driver versions.

The nodes that are fencing while not mounting the ocfs2 is probably due
to any oops inside the o2cb (cluster stack) driver that *could be*
triggered by the mix of versions and some protocol incompatibility
between them.

 Several documents state that nodes have to be somewhat equal of power 
 and specs and in my case that will never be.
 Unfortunately for me, I have had several other events of random
 Fencing that have been unexplained by common checks.
 i.e. My Network has never been the problem yet one server may see 
 another one go away when all of the other services on that node may
 be running perfectly fine. I can only surmise that the reason why
 that may have been is because of an elevated load on the server that
 starved the Heartbeat process preventing it from sending Network
 packets to other nodes.
 
 My config has about 40 Nodes on it, I have 4 or 5 different shared
 LUNs out of our SAN and not all servers share all Mounts.
 meaning  only 10 or 12 share one LUN, 8 or 9 share another and 2 or 3 
 share a third, unfortunately the complexity is such that a server may 
 intersect with some of the servers but not all.
 perhaps a change in my config to create separate clusters may be the 
 solution but only if a node can be part of multiple clusters:
 
 /node:
  ip_port = 
  ip_address = 172.20.16.151
  number = 1
  name = txri-oprdracdb-1.tomkinsbp.com
  cluster = ocfs2-back
 
 node:
  ip_port = 
  ip_address = 172.20.16.152
  number = 2
  name = txri-oprdracdb-2.tomkinsbp.com
  cluster = ocfs2-back
 
 node:
  ip_port = 
  ip_address = 10.30.12.172
  number = 4
  name = txri-util01.tomkinsbp.com
  cluster = ocfs2-util, ocfs2-back
 node:
  ip_port = 
  ip_address = 10.30.12.94
  number = 5
  name = txri-util02.tomkinsbp.com
  cluster = ocfs2-util, ocfs2-back
 
 cluster:
  node_count = 2
  name = ocfs2-back
 
 cluster:
  node_count = 2
  name = ocfs2-util
 /
 Is this even Legal, or can it be done some other way ?
 or is this done based on the Different DOMAINS that are created once
 a mount is done .

Isn't possible. The cluster part does not support the definition of
more than one cluster. Take a look at the list archives if you are
interested in why there could not be more than one definition.

 How can I make the cluster more stable ? and Why does a node fence 
 itself on the cluster even if it does Not have any locks on the
 shared LUN ? It seems to be that the node may be fenceable simply
 by having the OCFS2 services turned ON, without a mount .
 is this correct ?
 
 Another question I have been having as well is:  can the Fencing
 method be other than Panic or restart ? Can a third party or a
 Userland event be triggered to recover from what may be construed by
 the Heartbeat or Network tests   as a downed node ?
 
 Thanks for any of the help you can give me.

The server fence because any driver issued a kernel oops due an
unexpected behaviour, so there is no guarantee that the kernel or the
driver is still stable when it happens. That's why is recommended that
the server should restart in this case.

You can disable the automatic fence by setting the sysctl parameter
kernel.panic_on_oops

# echo 0  /proc/sys/kernel/panic_on_oops

To permanently disable the fence you can add (or modify) the fallowing
line in your /etc/sysctl.conf

kernel.panic_on_oops=0

By doing this, the server will not fence if any of the kernel drivers
issue an oops, instead, the driver will probably crash and may render
your server unstable or crashed by a kernel panic.

Anyway, you should configure a netconsole, so if any of them oops or
panic, you still get the error messages and stack traces.

Regards,
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 certification query

2012-01-27 Thread Werner Flamme
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Have a look at
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/clustering/tech-generic-linux-new-086754.html.
You can read:

- ---snip---
* OCFS2 is not certified with Standard Edition RAC
* OCFS2 version 1.2 and 1.4 should be used for Oracle RAC 9i, 10gR1,
10gR2, and 11gR1 on the respective OS versions. These OCFS2 versions
cannot be used for for Oracle RAC 11gR2
- ---pins---

On http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs2/ you can read OCFS2 1.6 is
now available with the Oracle Linux 5. It is bundled with Oracle's
Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel..

So if you do not use 11gR2 Standard Edition (but 11gR2 Enterprise,
...) and you use OCFS2 1.6, you may be on the right way :-)

Regards,
Werner

Thiruselvam Velayutham [27.01.2012 15:23]:

 Thanks Srinivas for the quick response.  We raised SR, support
 indicated OCSF2 is not supported with 11gR2, but while talking
 support analyst said it can be done.  We are not quite clear on
 this.
 
 thanks Thiru
 
 Thiruselvam V KBACE Technologies (P) Ltd, JP Technopark, 3/1
 Miller's Road,Bangalore,Karnataka,India Mobile :+91 9986150593
 Work :+91 80  4112 1700 Ext 6544 e-Mail :
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 www.kbace.comhttp://www.kbace.com/
 
 From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com
 [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of srinivas
 eeda Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:48 PM To:
 ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2
 certification query
 
 It should be, but please contact database support for certification
 questions.
 
 On 1/27/2012 5:46 AM, Thiruselvam Velayutham wrote: Hello,
 
 
 We are currently on 11gR1 RAC(11.1.0.7) on RHEL 5, using ocfs2
 (1.2.9) for datafiles, redo ,archive , ocr and voting disk.
 
 We plan to upgrade to 11gR2 (11.2.0.3), is 11gR2 RAC certified on
 OCFS2 ?
 
 If OCFS2 is not certified with 11gR2 what is the plan / roadmap for
 customers who wish to go to 11gR2?
 
 
 thanks Thiru
 
 Thiruselvam V KBACE Technologies (P) Ltd, JP Technopark, 3/1
 Miller's Road,Bangalore,Karnataka,India Mobile :+91 9986150593
 Work :+91 80  4112 1700 Ext 6544 e-Mail :
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] Help ! OCFS2 unstable on Disparate Hardware

2012-01-27 Thread Sunil Mushran
Symmetric clustering works best when the nodes are comparable because 
all nodes have to work in sync. NFS may be more suitable for your needs.

On 01/26/2012 05:51 PM, Jorge Adrian Salaices wrote:
 I have been working on trying to convince Mgmt at work that we want to
 go to OCFS2 away from NFS for the sharing of the Application Layer of
 our Oracle EBS (Enterprise Business Suite), and for just general Backup
 Share, but general instability in my setup has dissuaded me to
 recommend it.

 I have a mixture of 1.4.7 (EL 5.3) and 1.6.3 (EL 5.7 + UEK) and
 something as simple as an umount has triggered random Node reboots, even
 on nodes that have Other OCFS2 mounts not shared by the rebooting nodes.
 You see the problem I have is that I have disparate hardware and some of
 these servers are even VM's.

 Several documents state that nodes have to be somewhat equal of power
 and specs and in my case that will never be.
 Unfortunately for me, I have had several other events of random Fencing
 that have been unexplained by common checks.
 i.e. My Network has never been the problem yet one server may see
 another one go away when all of the other services on that node may be
 running perfectly fine. I can only surmise that the reason why that may
 have been is because of an elevated load on the server that starved the
 Heartbeat process preventing it from sending Network packets to other
 nodes.

 My config has about 40 Nodes on it, I have 4 or 5 different shared LUNs
 out of our SAN and not all servers share all Mounts.
 meaning only 10 or 12 share one LUN, 8 or 9 share another and 2 or 3
 share a third, unfortunately the complexity is such that a server may
 intersect with some of the servers but not all.
 perhaps a change in my config to create separate clusters may be the
 solution but only if a node can be part of multiple clusters:

 /node:
 ip_port = 
 ip_address = 172.20.16.151
 number = 1
 name = txri-oprdracdb-1.tomkinsbp.com
 cluster = ocfs2-back

 node:
 ip_port = 
 ip_address = 172.20.16.152
 number = 2
 name = txri-oprdracdb-2.tomkinsbp.com
 cluster = ocfs2-back

 node:
 ip_port = 
 ip_address = 10.30.12.172
 number = 4
 name = txri-util01.tomkinsbp.com
 cluster = ocfs2-util, ocfs2-back
 node:
 ip_port = 
 ip_address = 10.30.12.94
 number = 5
 name = txri-util02.tomkinsbp.com
 cluster = ocfs2-util, ocfs2-back

 cluster:
 node_count = 2
 name = ocfs2-back

 cluster:
 node_count = 2
 name = ocfs2-util
 /
 Is this even Legal, or can it be done some other way ?
 or is this done based on the Different DOMAINS that are created once a
 mount is done .


 How can I make the cluster more stable ? and Why does a node fence
 itself on the cluster even if it does Not have any locks on the shared
 LUN ? It seems to be that the node may be fenceable simply by having
 the OCFS2 services turned ON, without a mount .
 is this correct ?

 Another question I have been having as well is: can the Fencing method
 be other than Panic or restart ? Can a third party or a Userland event
 be triggered to recover from what may be construed by the Heartbeat or
 Network tests as a downed node ?

 Thanks for any of the help you can give me.


 --
 Jorge Adrian Salaices
 Sr. Linux Engineer
 Tomkins Building Products



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