Re: [OctDev] [pkg.m] Code sprint

2012-11-14 Thread Juan Pablo Carbajal
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Michael D. Godfrey
michaeldgodf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/13/2012 06:16 PM, Sergei Steshenko wrote:

 Or you think existence of SW architects is a human race mistake and they
 are unnecessary ?

 Regards,
Sergei.

 I am with you, Sergei.  I have been there: spec and USER doc first, then
 design,
 then consider some coding.  I know this is boring and old fashioned and...,
 but I
 can tell you some important software that came out right following this
 sequence.

 Michael Godfrey


Thank you,

We acknowledge your suggestion, it doesn't mean we are going to follow it :D
If you want to do it. You are very welcome!

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Re: [OctDev] [pkg.m] Code sprint

2012-11-13 Thread Juan Pablo Carbajal
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Juan Pablo Carbajal
ajuanpi+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 The code sprint to improve pkg.m will take place on the 17th and 18th
 of November.
 Choose your task here
 http://wiki.octave.org/Code_sprint:_pkg.m

 If you still want to join us you can add yourself here or just pop in
 in the IRC channel those days.
 http://doodle.com/x3bh7ity5knekda8

 See you space coder ...

This is just a friendly reminder of the code sprint dedicated to
improve pkg.m to happen during the 17th and 18th of November (meeting
point, the IRC channel #octave at irc.freenode.net).

View the current lists of taks here (suggestions, commetn, potentiual
drawbacks, please let us know)
http://wiki.octave.org/Code_sprint:_pkg.m

Read the latest post by Carnë (Forge project leader) here
http://octave-forge.blogspot.com/2012/11/pkg-package-system-and-structure.html


Join us!

KaKiLa

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Re: [OctDev] [pkg.m] Code sprint

2012-11-13 Thread Sergei Steshenko








 From: Juan Pablo Carbajal ajuanpi+...@gmail.com
To: Octave Forge octave-dev@lists.sourceforge.net; help-oct...@octave.org; 
Octave Maintainers octave-maintain...@octave.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [pkg.m] Code sprint
 
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Juan Pablo Carbajal
ajuanpi+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 The code sprint to improve pkg.m will take place on the 17th and 18th
 of November.
 Choose your task here
 http://wiki.octave.org/Code_sprint:_pkg.m

 If you still want to join us you can add yourself here or just pop in
 in the IRC channel those days.
 http://doodle.com/x3bh7ity5knekda8

 See you space coder ...

This is just a friendly reminder of the code sprint dedicated to
improve pkg.m to happen during the 17th and 18th of November (meeting
point, the IRC channel #octave at irc.freenode.net).

View the current lists of taks here (suggestions, commetn, potentiual
drawbacks, please let us know)
http://wiki.octave.org/Code_sprint:_pkg.m

Read the latest post by Carnë (Forge project leader) here
http://octave-forge.blogspot.com/2012/11/pkg-package-system-and-structure.html


Join us!

KaKiLa
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Has anybody already written a _spec_ for Octave packaging ?

If not, why to step on the same rake again, i.e. what is the sense of writing 
code with no set goals and no analysis that those unset yet goals do not 
contradict each other ?

Or you think existence of SW architects is a human race mistake and they are 
unnecessary ?

Regards,
  Sergei.

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Re: [OctDev] [pkg.m] Code sprint

2012-11-13 Thread Michael D. Godfrey
On 11/13/2012 06:16 PM, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 Or you think existence of SW architects is a human race mistake and they are 
 unnecessary ?

 Regards,
Sergei.
I am with you, Sergei.  I have been there: spec and USER doc first, then 
design,
then consider some coding.  I know this is boring and old fashioned 
and..., but I
can tell you some important software that came out right following this 
sequence.

Michael Godfrey


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Re: [OctDev] [pkg.m] Code sprint

2012-11-01 Thread Sergei Steshenko




- Original Message -
 From: Juan Pablo Carbajal ajuanpi+...@gmail.com
 To: Octave Forge octave-dev@lists.sourceforge.net; help-oct...@octave.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:08 PM
 Subject: [pkg.m] Code sprint
 
 Hi all,
 
 The code sprint to improve pkg.m will take place on the 17th and 18th
 of November.
 Choose your task here
 http://wiki.octave.org/Code_sprint:_pkg.m
 
 If you still want to join us you can add yourself here or just pop in
 in the IRC channel those days.
 http://doodle.com/x3bh7ity5knekda8
 
 See you space coder ...
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To write code _not_ having a spec is kindergarten nonsense.

As I wrote many times, intents (if I understand them correctly) of 'pkg.m' can 
_not_ be implemented unless the issue of namespaces is resolved.

I even offered my help: I architect the thing (packaging) and you guys 
implement it per my spec (which we first discuss).

There _must_ be an architect - somebody, anybody, not at all necessarily me.

Regards,
  Sergei.


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