Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

2012-11-24 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Martin Helm wrote:
 Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
 Hi everyone

 the java package as been moved to Octave core (see

Hmm surprise.

 http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
 remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
 of its development.

 I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
 install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
 it.

 Carnë

 Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
 support is integrated into Matlab?

Apparently, exactly that has been done; Octave-Java-package's 
idiosyncrasies permitting.

That is, Matlab ships with a JRE so that Java is always guaranteed to 
work with ML. (The ML GUI was (still is?) Java-based so I can understand 
why TMW needed to do that.)

AFAICS Octave is dependent on an independently installed JDK. Moreover, 
once Octave has been built from source w/o JDK, adding in a JRE or JDK 
later on and then expecting Java to work automagically from Octave may 
be a tad optimistic.
Of course, for users invoking a binary distribution package this 
shouldn't be a problem.

Philip

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Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

2012-11-24 Thread Alexander Hansen
On 11/24/12 10:38 AM, Philip Nienhuis wrote:
 Martin Helm wrote:
 Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
 Hi everyone

 the java package as been moved to Octave core (see
 
 Hmm surprise.
 
 http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
 remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
 of its development.

 I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
 install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
 it.

 Carnë

 Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
 support is integrated into Matlab?
 
 Apparently, exactly that has been done; Octave-Java-package's 
 idiosyncrasies permitting.
 
 That is, Matlab ships with a JRE so that Java is always guaranteed to 
 work with ML. (The ML GUI was (still is?) Java-based so I can understand 
 why TMW needed to do that.)
 
 AFAICS Octave is dependent on an independently installed JDK. Moreover, 
 once Octave has been built from source w/o JDK, adding in a JRE or JDK 
 later on and then expecting Java to work automagically from Octave may 
 be a tad optimistic.
 Of course, for users invoking a binary distribution package this 
 shouldn't be a problem.
 
 Philip
 

I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
produces the runtime threading error indicated by
http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.

Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
on OS X when using Apple's Java.
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Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

2012-11-24 Thread Michael Goffioul
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alexander Hansen 
alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
 Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
 produces the runtime threading error indicated by
 http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.

 Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
 on OS X when using Apple's Java.


Only the GUI aspects of Java are unusable. But there's much more than that
in Java.

Michael.
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Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

2012-11-24 Thread Alexander Hansen
On 11/24/12 2:11 PM, Michael Goffioul wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alexander Hansen
 alexanderk.han...@gmail.com mailto:alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm curious whether anybody has tried Octave-Java on Mac OS X using an
 Oracle JDK/JRE rather than what Apple provides to see if it also
 produces the runtime threading error indicated by
 http://lists.apple.com/archives/java-dev/2005/Mar/msg00506.html.
 
 Right now that renders the Octave-Java package essentially nonfunctional
 on OS X when using Apple's Java.
 
 
 Only the GUI aspects of Java are unusable. But there's much more than
 that in Java.
 
 Michael.
 

The last time I tried I couldn't get the spreadsheet import tools to
work, either.
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Re: [OctDev] removing java package from SVN tree

2012-11-23 Thread Martin Helm
Am 23.11.2012 21:52, schrieb Carnë Draug:
 Hi everyone

 the java package as been moved to Octave core (see
 http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/rev/acf0addfc610). I want to
 remove the package from the SVN tree to prevent accidental branching
 of its development.

 I will keep the tarball in the servers available for download and
 install, even after the release of whatever Octave version includes
 it.

 Carnë

Is it planned to integrate it at some point in a similar way as the java
support is integrated into Matlab?

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