date:20120503

Using proxy, it works. Network issue.

2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
 I also have problem to connect to bugzilla, some problem hint to my college 
 too.

 The IP return from my DNS is:
 nslookup issues.apache.org
 Server:         9.0.148.50
 Address:        9.0.148.50#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:   issues.apache.org
 Address: 140.211.11.121

 Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji

 On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

 It works for me.

 $ nslookup issues.apache.org
 Server:               192.168.1.1
 Address:      192.168.1.1#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name: issues.apache.org
 Address: 140.211.11.121

 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location?

 Regards,
 Dave

 On May 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Zhe Liu wrote:

 It seems the apache bugzilla server is down. I tried other projects
 and also can't connect.


 2012/5/3 shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 I found the aoo issue website does not work currently.
 was it moved to a new place?
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=54281


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 mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles
 https://google.com/profiles



 --
 Best Regards
 From aliu...@gmail.com





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Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API

2012-05-03 Thread Peng Chen

When users load MS document in OpenOffice with VBA, sometimes the macro
doesn't work, because we lack the support of VBA APIs in OO.
In this wiki, what's I want to express is that you can add the unsupported
API by yourself in OO's code if you meet such situation or you have
interesting to implement unsupported VBA APIs in OO.

2012/5/3 ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com

 Hi,  Andrew, I think the article is about VBA Macros interoperability
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA . It explains the details if
 you want to hack OO for more excel macros support.  Currently there are
 still many VBA apis not supported in OO,  although the support framework
 has been implemented.
 2012/5/3 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org

  On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote:
 
  Hi All,
   I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice,
  http://wiki.services.**
 openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_**support_a_VBA_API_in_
  **OpenOffice
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice
 
 
   Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks.
 
   I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I have
 no
  idea what the article is about. I think that the problem is that I lack
 the
  proper vocabulary. For example, when I see VBA, I think Visual Basic
  Applications, which is something that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports,
 and
  not OOo (OpenOffice.org).
 
  Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff that can
 be
  enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic?
 
  After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will read
  this again, since it looks like you are probably answering some very
  specific questions that I have in areas that I do not fully understand,
 but
  have searched for in the past.
 
  Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding.
 
  --
  Andrew Pitonyak
  My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt
 http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
  Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1


On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote:

...


I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful
vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights
the determination and impecable work done by the group.


+1 (it is not common)


and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and
have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to
improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community.

My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing
special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this
first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget
some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last
month to bring our first release on the road.

I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot:
- migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and
template repository, bugzilla
- setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project
web page
- IP cleanup of the code
- setting up build bots
- preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC
- great QA work
- archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws
- establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners
- work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes
- ...

The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort
and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to
Apache and partners.

We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved
but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our
collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really
looking forward to continue this work with all of you.

We have strong characters in the project with different communication
styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are
really doing here in the project and for the project before we
adjudicate on somebody.

And about statements like the major part of the community have moved
to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the
OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I
couldn't resist)

Thanks to all of you


I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for 
coding, testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice.


Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate 
all and everything.
I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the 
poodle server (~123kb):


http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg

Best regards,
Andre

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1


Here is the correct link

http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-05-03 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 03.05.2012 10:24, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote:

...


I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful
vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights
the determination and impecable work done by the group.


+1 (it is not common)


and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and
have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to
improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community.

My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing
special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this
first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget
some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last
month to bring our first release on the road.

I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot:
- migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and
template repository, bugzilla
- setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project
web page
- IP cleanup of the code
- setting up build bots
- preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC
- great QA work
- archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws
- establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners
- work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes
- ...

The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort
and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to
Apache and partners.

We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved
but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our
collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really
looking forward to continue this work with all of you.

We have strong characters in the project with different communication
styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are
really doing here in the project and for the project before we
adjudicate on somebody.

And about statements like the major part of the community have moved
to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the
OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I
couldn't resist)

Thanks to all of you


I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for coding,
testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice.

Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate all and
everything.
I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the poodle
server (~123kb):

http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg



It was an honour to see how this picture was taken.
It is an honour to be part of this great open-source community.

Best regards, Oliver.

Re: Would there be any interest in starting a AOO Group on Launchpad

I took the liberty to add myself.  I am interested in making AOO 
available on Ubuntu but have no experience with PPA (yet).


-Andre

On 02.05.2012 20:41, Wolf Halton wrote:

I was about to commit the AOO code to a PPA for myself, but as Drew
mentioned, it might be a lot more fun if we started a little team to set up
a repo for Ubuntu for the new RC.  Would you like to play?  I am good at
thrashing things out (even reading the fine manual at times) but I have
never set up a PPA before.  I have come as far as making a test PPA but I
haven't added any files.
Apparently Launchpad makes its own debs, so that is not necessary.

-Wolf

PS earlier messages below...

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:15 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com  wrote:


On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 12:55 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, drew jensendrewjensen.in...@gmail.com
wrote:


On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 12:40 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:

I am attempting to install from a sourceforge download and I would

like

to

have one of 2 things.
1. a repo to set in my sources.list for Ubuntu 12.04


There is none - but you are welcome to create a PPA for same if you
would like.


OK, I will.  :-)
  I will post the link up here.

Thnx


Hi Wolf

That would be excellent, IMO. That said just a reminder, I think this is
a great idea, that doesn't mean everyone else does.

BTW are you familiar with the steps required to open a PPA?

Also, a PPA can be opened by an individual or a team, perhaps it would
best to see if there is anyone else here that would be interested in
working with you on this, IMO, having more then one person, from the
main project, working on this would be a pretty good idea.

Anyway - let us know how we can help you with this.

//drew

ps: My launchpad id is atjensen, in case you want to say hello there.

Re: CWS licensing query ...

2012-05-03 Thread Ross Gardler

A small number of people have approached me offlist, as a mentor, with
concerns that the PPMC might be missing important CWSs. As a mentor I
want to make it clear I have *no* opinion on the technical aspect of
this project and the communications have not included any specific
requests. Personally I feel the message in my text below has already
been communicated. However, since I have offlist communications I will
speak onlist in reply and thus make this opinion explicit.

If anyone on this list believes a *specific* CWS is valuable as the
project as it moves forwards then here is what to do...

Go to our repository and look to see if it is already there (Dave gave
an example in this thread).

Remember, as Rob and Pedro point out absence from the 3.4 release does
not mean absence from our repositories so please check this first.

If it is not there please check our mail archives, as Rob suggests, to
see if the CWS was not included for good reason (if it was not
explicitly discussed it may have been missed).

If you still believe it is being missed (or you have new input to the
discussion) post in a *new* thread saying I believe XYZ is important,
how do I go about ensuring the code lands here. In that thread build
consensus that the code is needed and seek guidance on how to get it.

Then do the work and bring the code over.

This is how an ASF project works. There are some things you won't be
able to do but you will find that doing the parts you are able to do
will help ensure someone is willing to step forward to do the rest of
the work.

If you don't have the time to do the work feel free to raise an issue
on the issue tracker. Hopefully someone with more time and similar
views will be available to do the work. But we promise nothing, we are
all volunteers here. The only way to guarantee results is to do it
yourself.

This is how an ASF project works, everyone is welcome.to contribute.
Valuable contributions include making *specific* requests via the
issue tracker, even more valuable is doing the work to close the
issue.

To close. let me repeat that as a mentor (which is why I've been
contacted offlist) I believe the original question has been answered
here and guidance has already been provided on how to identify and
fill any *specific* holes an individual might see. I'm looking forward
to seeing some new contributors emerge.

Ross

-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


On 1 May 2012 21:22, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
 On 05/01/12 12:07, Michael Meeks wrote:

 ...




        or something - though, clearly there are prolly some interesting
 new
 files there too - which would fall foul of the list in the SGA I guess.
 Anyhow - most interested in the status of those.


 Of course we don't release CWSs at all, those would have to find
 their way into working code first.


 On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 23:13 +0200, Rob Weir wrote:

 Were there any other specific CWS's that you are interested in, aside
 from aw080?

        I havn't done a complete audit yet; but when I last reviewed the
 list,
 there were rather a large number of useful bits of code there -
 everything from bug-fixes, to new features, to porting to gnumake.


 I understand you have been cautious,
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-October/019057.html
 and that's really good.

 I can see we will not be adopting them all. I think, for example, part
 of the accessibility stuff may be obsoleted by IBM's code, so if you
 really want to relicense all your code it may be easier to revert that
 and sync at a later time with AOO (good thing you are using git).


        I assume you have a plan for rescuing that, it'd be great to
 understand
 it in more detail.

 We have no plan.

 For 3.4, it's too late but please do provide a list of the CWSs you are
 using
 in LibreOffice with a short description and we will eventually see what we
 can provide in future AOO releases. Of course, if you sign an iCLA you
 can help things go faster :).

 Pedro.



-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?


On 03.05.2012 06:11, Juergen Schmidt wrote:

On Thursday, 3. May 2012 at 00:01, eric b wrote:

Hi,

Le 2 mai 12 à 22:53, Wolf Halton a écrit :


I had just that issue. LO uses /usr/bin/soffice as well.



Not very kind :-/


well we used it since many years and people will expect that OpenOffice will 
start. Let us wait what happens when users complain.
We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or 
apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it is used 
in many places.


I share the sentiment.  But soffice, probably a shortcut for star 
office, felt already strange to start OpenOffice (no s in the name). 
Maybe it is time for a change?


-Andre

Re: What do we need to do in BZ after AOO 3.4 is released?

Suggest we add AOO 340 version as official release. And for those existing
opening defects, basically they should be moved to this version as well.
But considering we are not sure if many old defects still valid for AOO
3.4, it's better add one version as OOO and change all the defects before
AOO 3.4 to this version. To be honest, I am not sure how we handle these
large volume of old defects. From QA view, I'd like monitor those high
severity defects and verify them against AOO 340+ to check if they exist as
well.

Once AOO 340 is announced, all users can submit their feedback against AOO
340.

Also branch version should be provide to track against which version
volunteer should report issue.

For component, I totally agree Regina's suggestion.

Also one target version filed is need to track the fixed stream for given
bug.

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 Today, among the 100 version strings the users need to scroll through
 in BZ, we have AOO340-dev.

 What do we want after we release AOO 3.4?

 Add AOO340?  (Or just rename AOO340-dev to AOO340?)

 Add AOO341-dev?

 Add AOO450-dev?

 Also, are there any products that can be removed or demoted to
 components under another product?   What we have now is simpler than
 what we had with OOo, but it is still very complicated with a lot of
 dead wood at the top level.

 -Rob

Re: After AOO 3.4?

Yes, I plan:

   - QA website update
   - QA process update
   - QA automation framework build up and related guide publish
   - QA case management tool
   - QA sample file db

I will propose all these tasks against qa mail list and call for volunteers.

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/2 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com

 In addition, QA site is too old and need updated.

 2012/5/2 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
  From QA perspective,  I think we need to build up the QA project and
 process asap. Automation framework and test tool should be available soon
 for all tester in this project.
 
  Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji
 
  On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:32 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
  I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO
  3.4 is released.  Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm
  able to speak confidently about a few things:
 
  1) We'll probably graduate to a Top Level Project
 
  2) IBM says they will contribute Symphony source code after 3.4 is
 released
 
  3) We have some initial feature ideas for AOO 4.0 on the wiki:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Feature+Planning
 
  4) We also have some ideas listed for an AOO 4.1:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Feature+Planning
 
  Beyond that, do we have anything to say?
 
  I've heard some discussions that we might want an AOO 3.4.1, which
 would:
 
  A) Add some additional translations
 
  B) Fix any important bugs that are found in AOO 3.4
 
  C) Uncertain if it would have new features?
 
  What time frame would this be?  It seems like it takes around 4-6
  weeks to iterate on dev builds, do regression testing, cut a Release
  Candidate, have a two-stage release vote and get the new build
  distributed.  So it seems it would need to be at least that far out,
  plus whatever time it takes to do the translations and bug fixing.
 
  Does anyone want to start a wiki page for AOO 3.4.1 and start
  collecting proposed translations and bugs for that release?
 
  -Rob
 



 --
 Best Regards
 From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO

2012-05-03 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the
 release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.  I think this is critical, since the
 average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use
 Google+ or Twitter.  But almost every user, current and potential,
 does use Facebook.  So it is our best opportunity for engaging with
 users.

 Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO


Like the page! :)


 I need your help in managing and running this page.   I'm offering to
 hand total control of this page over to the PPMC.  If anyone (from the
 PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email
 address associated with your Facebook account.   You can send this to
 me via private email if you prefer.

 So, is anyone willing to help?

 Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this
 is very welcome as well, from all volunteers:

 1) Like the page

 2) Share the page with your friends

 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post
 them on our Wall

 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of
 OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline

 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally
 help with any user questions.


Thanks.


 With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready
 for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and
 Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as
 well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account.


Identi.ca and twitter brazilian @apacheoobr

I'll also create page in facebook brazil:

facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr

The have in same thinking you Rob about the page(s).





 Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the
 ability to remove other admins, including removing me.  So I have
 absolutely no exclusive special privileges.   I'm reserving nothing.
 I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC.

 Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing
 OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use.  I've asked
 repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical
 steps [3] needed to make this transition.  I think it was worth the
 effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur.
  However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready
 for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into
 another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So
 I hope I have your support.

 [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297
 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel
 [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j

 Regards,

 -Rob


Best,
Albino

Re: I posted a wiki about copy/paste in calc in OpenOffice,



Le 3 mai 12 à 04:23, shzh zhao a écrit :


Hi All,




Hi,




I posted a wiki about copy/paste in calc in OpenOffice,

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc/Implementation/ 
Calc_copy_pastehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice





Thank you very much : every documentation needs always a lot of time  
to be written, and a lot of energy to maintain it.


= bookmarked and marked as  precious   :-)



Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks.


About the code documentation : nothing, thanks again ! About the code  
itself .. looks like there is something strange. Indeed, when we read  
the description, we see a forest of if / else if .. in the algo.


If I understand correctly, every time a case is tested, we do  
aDataHelper.HasFormat( aFormat) and if the current case is the 10th  
in the if list, we'll have to execute 10 times the same method ?  
Wouldn't a switch( aFormat) be more efficient and probably faster  
there ?  Other point : PasteDataFormat (sc/source/ui/view/ 
viewfun5.cxx) is around 500 lines (!!), and this is probably a lot  
for a simple method (I probably read too fast ...)


FYI when I documented the math equation editor (see http:// 
wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ImproveMathEquationEditor/ 
SourcesDescription ), there was another pattern used. Say more  
graphical, and using operators (see starmath/inc/rect.hxx). Could  
this pattern be used there instead ? (if adapted)


More precisely, I see some similarities between all the possible  
cases of formats ( if DataHelper.HasFormat() ), how they are treated,  
and the possible nodes when creating a graphical equation.



Do you think we could use such a method in Calc (operators), and  
optimize, or am I completely wrong ? (could be ;-) )



Thanks,
Eric

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Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: how to access aoo issue website?


Hi,

Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem.

I wanted to provide some patches, comment issues, and start working  
at some task, but that's not possible  :-/



Regards,
Eric

Le 3 mai 12 à 04:50, Dave Fisher a écrit :


It works for me.

$ nslookup issues.apache.org
Server: 192.168.1.1
Address:192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   issues.apache.org
Address: 140.211.11.121

What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location?

Regards,
Dave




--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Juergen Schmidt wrote:

We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or
apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it
is used in many places.


It would definitely make sense to continue using soffice. And, unless it 
gets political (and I hope it won't), Ubuntu could modify its packaging.


If another name is needed in addition to soffice, then the best option 
would probably be ooffice, which is already in use with, e.g., the Red 
Hat packaging of 3.3. No need to add a or apache as a prefix: Apache 
Subversion uses svn, not asvn; and the same for Tomcat and other 
Apache software.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, eric b eric.bachardnos...@free.fr wrote:
 Hi,

 Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem.


Hi Eric,

Sorry, I may have missed your issue originally.  What is your problem?
 Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?

-Rob


 I wanted to provide some patches, comment issues, and start working at some
 task, but that's not possible  :-/


 Regards,
 Eric

 Le 3 mai 12 à 04:50, Dave Fisher a écrit :


 It works for me.

 $ nslookup issues.apache.org
 Server:         192.168.1.1
 Address:        192.168.1.1#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:   issues.apache.org
 Address: 140.211.11.121

 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location?

 Regards,
 Dave



 --
 qɔᴉɹə
 Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
 L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
 Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On May 2, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

 On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote:
 Hi All,
      I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice,
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice

      Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks.

 I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I have no 
 idea what the article is about. I think that the problem is that I lack the 
 proper vocabulary. For example, when I see VBA, I think Visual Basic 
 Applications, which is something that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports, and 
 not OOo (OpenOffice.org).

 Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff that can be 
 enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic?

 After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will read this 
 again, since it looks like you are probably answering some very specific 
 questions that I have in areas that I do not fully understand, but have 
 searched for in the past.

 Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding.

 I'm not sure what I am reading either. My reference is using Apache POI and 
 its User Defined Function (UDF) capability to rewrite a VBA function in Java. 
 This allows me to have a different implementation of a VBA function that is 
 not in a Basic derivative. Whether that works or not depends on whether I can 
 accurately code the VBA in Java. This is not easy.

 I think that this API may be more about UDF support than VBA support.

 To me VBA support means that I can run my MS Office VBAs in the program 
 without any trouble.


We have VBA support in Symphony.  It looks like the Symphony
developers are starting to add some technical documentation about the
features they added to Symphony, beyond what is in OOo.

-Rob

 Still, UDF support is useful. VBA support is a panacea.

 What's it all about Peng?

 Regards,
 Dave


 --
 Andrew Pitonyak
 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Rob Weir wrote:

Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?


Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
  --
Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org 
tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. 
To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the 
header or footer.


[so far, instruction still apply]

Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was 
myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be 
myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the 
e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account 
pre-migration to the ASF.


[this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail 
address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other 
users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated 
my account months ago]

  --
Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
 password?


 Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
  --
 Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
 must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
 your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer.

 [so far, instruction still apply]

 Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser,
 then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
 myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
 e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
 pre-migration to the ASF.

 [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address -
 the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported
 that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months
 ago]
  --

Certainly it will fail if the password reset is sent to the
openoffice.org email address.  Those will just bounce.  But it is not
clear to me how BZ would know about the user's aliased email address.

-Rob

 Regards,
  Andrea.

Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/

Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our
template repository?  It might make sense to mention the templates and
extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a
statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem.  Someone who
contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the
overall OpenOffice effort.

-Rob

Propose testlink

2012-05-03 Thread Yan Ji

Hi all,
As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test 
management, such as test project management, test specification management, 
test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we 
will gain lots of benefit.

   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I 
can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. 
Who can help?

Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji

Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Excellent... I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to be sure 
before I wracked my brain more. On more than one occasion, I had looked 
to see how this was done (and failed to figure it out). I will take 
another look. Thanks!


On 05/03/2012 01:45 AM, ZuoJun Chen wrote:
Hi,  Andrew, I think the article is about VBA Macros interoperability 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA . It explains the details 
if you want to hack OO for more excel macros support.  Currently there 
are still many VBA apis not supported in OO,  although the support 
framework has been implemented.
2012/5/3 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org 
mailto:and...@pitonyak.org


On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote:

Hi All,
 I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice,

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice

 Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks.

I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I
have no idea what the article is about. I think that the problem
is that I lack the proper vocabulary. For example, when I see
VBA, I think Visual Basic Applications, which is something
that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports, and not OOo (OpenOffice.org).

Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff
that can be enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic?

After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will
read this again, since it looks like you are probably answering
some very specific questions that I have in areas that I do not
fully understand, but have searched for in the past.

Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding.

-- 
Andrew Pitonyak

My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php




--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO

2012-05-03 Thread Shane Curcuru

Thanks.  First thing is to remove the proposed from the about, now 
that you have other PPMC'ers helping.


Please add me as an admin; I'd like to see how (P)PMCs can best manage 
this kind of resource in other situations, and once my current overload 
of work tails off hope to have more time to contribute.


I'm pretty sure I'm the only Shane Curcuru out there.

- Shane

On 2012-05-02 11:01 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the
release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.  I think this is critical, since the
average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use
Google+ or Twitter.  But almost every user, current and potential,
does use Facebook.  So it is our best opportunity for engaging with
users.

Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO

I need your help in managing and running this page.   I'm offering to
hand total control of this page over to the PPMC.  If anyone (from the
PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email
address associated with your Facebook account.   You can send this to
me via private email if you prefer.

So, is anyone willing to help?

Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this
is very welcome as well, from all volunteers:

1) Like the page

2) Share the page with your friends

3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post
them on our Wall

4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of
OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline

5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally
help with any user questions.

With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready
for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and
Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as
well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account.

Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the
ability to remove other admins, including removing me.  So I have
absolutely no exclusive special privileges.   I'm reserving nothing.
I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC.

Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing
OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use.  I've asked
repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical
steps [3] needed to make this transition.  I think it was worth the
effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur.
  However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready
for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into
another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So
I hope I have your support.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297
[2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel
[3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 08:10 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/
 
 Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our
 template repository?  

1,105

 It might make sense to mention the templates and
 extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a
 statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem.  Someone who
 contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the
 overall OpenOffice effort.


 
 -Rob

[Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap

2012-05-03 Thread Erik Wigforss

Hi,

I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. Drawing
primitives works but not render a document.
Do anyone know how to do this?

Here is my code:

  public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File inFile) throws IOException,
BootstrapException, IllegalArgumentException, Exception,
java.io.IOException {
XComponentLoader xCompLoader =
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader();
PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[2];
loadProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(ReadOnly, Boolean.TRUE);
loadProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(Hidden, Boolean.TRUE);
XComponent xDoc =
xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()),
_blank, 0, loadProps);
XRenderable xRender =
(XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc);
if (xRender != null) {
  System.out.println(Is Renderable);
  XDevice xDevice =
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024,
1024);
  PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2];
  renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(RenderDevive, xDevice);
  renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(PageRange, 1);
  xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps);
  XBitmap xBitmap = xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024);
  if (xBitmap != null)
return ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB()));
  else
System.out.println(No bitmap created!);
} else {
  System.out.println(Not Renderable);
}
return null;
  }

Thanks in advance,

Erik Wigforss

[Solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?


Hi,

Le 3 mai 12 à 13:56, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :


Rob Weir wrote:

Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?


Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:



Ahhh  that's why I was not able to reset the password !! Thanks a  
lot, it was that !



Solved !!  Thanks a lot Andrea :-)


Fantastic, I'll be able to continue to work on the Writer feature  
with BZ



Regards,
Eric

--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

[solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?


Hi Rob,

Le 3 mai 12 à 13:44, Rob Weir a écrit :

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, eric b  
eric.bachardnos...@free.fr wrote:

Hi,

Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem.



Hi Eric,

Sorry, I may have missed your issue originally.



No problem, we all receive a lot of mails on this list.



What is your problem?



I was simply using the wrong email  (thanks to Andrea !!)



 Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?


Exactly



  Did you try resetting your password?




Was not working, for the reason above. This is solved now (uff !)


Regards,
Eric

--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Apache Barcamp in Washington DC

2012-05-03 Thread drew jensen

Hi,

Referencing this coming event
http://events.apache.org/event/2012/barcamp-dc/venue.html

Anyone here planning on attending?

I am thinking of doing so and thought I'd ask about any others also.

Thanks,

//drew

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
 password?


 Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
  --
 Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
 must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
 your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer.

 [so far, instruction still apply]

 Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser,
 then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
 myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
 e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
 pre-migration to the ASF.

 [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address -
 the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported
 that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months
 ago]

OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

-Rob

  --
 Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap

2012-05-03 Thread Fernand Vanrie


Erik ,
With BASIC it can been done
have a look at this thread 
http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/api-dev-Open-a-file-with-standard-application-from-dialog-td3067760.html


hope it helps

Fernand

Hi, I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. 
Drawing primitives works but not render a document. Do anyone know how 
to do this? Here is my code: public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File 
inFile) throws IOException, BootstrapException, 
IllegalArgumentException, Exception, java.io.IOException { 
XComponentLoader xCompLoader = 
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader(); PropertyValue[] 
loadProps = new PropertyValue[2]; loadProps[0] = 
OfficeTools.makeProperty(ReadOnly, Boolean.TRUE); loadProps[1] = 
OfficeTools.makeProperty(Hidden, Boolean.TRUE); XComponent xDoc = 
xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()), 
_blank, 0, loadProps); XRenderable xRender = 
(XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc); if 
(xRender != null) { System.out.println(Is Renderable); XDevice xDevice 
= 
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024, 
1024); PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2]; 
renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(RenderDevive, xDevice); 
renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(PageRange, 1); 
xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps); XBitmap xBitmap = 
xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024); if (xBitmap != null) return 
ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB())); else 
System.out.println(No bitmap created!); } else { 
System.out.println(Not Renderable); } return null; } Thanks in 
advance, Erik Wigforss

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

2012-05-03 Thread Shane Curcuru

We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation 
template currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic 
may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:


  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html

If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put 
it up there as well.


- Shane

On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
AOO at any kind of events.

Anybody interested in designing one?

Juergen

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

2012-05-03 Thread Ross Gardler

On 3 May 2012 16:09, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template
 currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be
 available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:

  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html

You probably already know about
http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ it contains official
images etc.

Ross


 If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up
 there as well.

 - Shane


 On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 Hi,

 do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
 share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
 OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
 AOO at any kind of events.

 Anybody interested in designing one?

 Juergen



-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

2012-05-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

Hi,
On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote:

 We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template 
 currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be 
 available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:
 
  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html
 
 If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up 
 there as well.
 
 - Shane
 
 On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
 share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
 OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
 AOO at any kind of events.
 
 Anybody interested in designing one?

I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give 
plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find it 
beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on community 
strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not an urgent 
issue for me--but…)

Louis
 
 Juergen

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Juergen Schmidt wrote:

 We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or
 apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it
 is used in many places.


 It would definitely make sense to continue using soffice. And, unless it
 gets political (and I hope it won't), Ubuntu could modify its packaging.

 If another name is needed in addition to soffice, then the best option
 would probably be ooffice, which is already in use with, e.g., the Red Hat
 packaging of 3.3. No need to add a or apache as a prefix: Apache
 Subversion uses svn, not asvn; and the same for Tomcat and other Apache
 software.

 Regards,
  Andrea.


It is nice to know ooffice is already in production use.
I was thinking that the install script (in the Ubuntu installs) could have
a case structure that checks for existing /usr/bin soft links, for instance:
if soffice exists  # Means openOffice, LibreOffice or StarOffice may be
installed
follow the link to get the app and version
echo to dialog   You appear to have %Existing_App% installed,
 if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and
install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it,
click %Button_1% [default unattended install behaviour].
If you would like to replace %Existing_App%
with %Current_AOO_Product%
click %Button_2% and if you would like to abort the installation
 and make no changes to your computer, click %Button_3%.
end_if
if ooffice exists # - Means OpenOffice is installed
follow the link to get the app and version
echo to dialog that software  You appear to have %Existing_App%
installed,
if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and
install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it, click %Button_1%.
If you would like to replace %Existing_App% with %Current_AOO_Product%
click %Button_2% [default action for unattended install] and if you
would
like to abort the installation and make no changes to your computer,
click %Button_3%.
end_if

This would work regardless of which Linux you are installing into.and offer
an option that was never available before.  It would also mean that the
Distribution packagers would not have to change very much to add AOO back
into their software repositories.  We always play well with others. :-)

Wolf


-- 
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org

Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO

2012-05-03 Thread Donald Harbison

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the
 release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.  I think this is critical, since the
 average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use
 Google+ or Twitter.  But almost every user, current and potential,
 does use Facebook.  So it is our best opportunity for engaging with
 users.

 Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO

 I need your help in managing and running this page.   I'm offering to
 hand total control of this page over to the PPMC.  If anyone (from the
 PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email
 address associated with your Facebook account.   You can send this to
 me via private email if you prefer.

 So, is anyone willing to help?


Sure, sign me up.
dpharbi...@facebook.com



 Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this
 is very welcome as well, from all volunteers:

 1) Like the page

 2) Share the page with your friends

 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post
 them on our Wall

 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of
 OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline

 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally
 help with any user questions.

 With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready
 for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and
 Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as
 well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account.

 Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the
 ability to remove other admins, including removing me.  So I have
 absolutely no exclusive special privileges.   I'm reserving nothing.
 I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC.

 Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing
 OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use.  I've asked
 repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical
 steps [3] needed to make this transition.  I think it was worth the
 effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur.
  However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready
 for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into
 another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So
 I hope I have your support.

 [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297
 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel
 [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j

 Regards,

 -Rob

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

2012-05-03 Thread Guy Waterval

Hi all,

2012/5/3 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com

 Hi,
 On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote:

  We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation
 template currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic
 may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:
 
   http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html
 
  If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put
 it up there as well.
 
  - Shane
 
  On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
  share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
  OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
  AOO at any kind of events.
 
  Anybody interested in designing one?

 I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give
 plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find
 it beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on
 community strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not
 an urgent issue for me--but…)


We also need a professional  template to begin a documentation under Apache
licence. Could a professional tech writer provide that, from IBM or another
company?

A+
-- 
gw

I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?

If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
I want to stay informed about OpenOffice?  That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
 It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?



On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
 OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
 example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
 list?

I don't recall the registration doing this...

 
 If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
 that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
 opportunity to engage with our users.
 
 I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
 I want to stay informed about OpenOffice?  That could go to a page
 where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
  It would take the place of the old registration system.
 
 -Rob

I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.

-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
  One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
  OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
  example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
  list?

 I don't recall the registration doing this...

 
  If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
  that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
  opportunity to engage with our users.
 
  I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
  I want to stay informed about OpenOffice?  That could go to a page
  where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
   It would take the place of the old registration system.
 
  -Rob

 I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
 or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.

 --
 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


This is a good idea. Do you think the idea of a newsletter format on
announce@ that went out monthly has any appeal?

-Wolf

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Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
 OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
 example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
 list?

 I don't recall the registration doing this...


 If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
 that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
 opportunity to engage with our users.

 I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
 I want to stay informed about OpenOffice?  That could go to a page
 where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
  It would take the place of the old registration system.

 -Rob

 I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
 or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.


If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others.  But an icon of what?

-Rob

 --
 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
                            -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?




On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:



On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?


I don't recall the registration doing this...



If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
I want to stay informed about OpenOffice?  That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
  It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob


I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.



If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others.  But an icon of what?



well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this 
one... I don't have any ideas...




-Rob


--

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


--

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1




On 05/03/2012 01:27 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Here is the correct link

http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg


nice to see he gets out to have some fun every once in a while! :)

--

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-05-03 Thread Andreas Säger


Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are
not enough; what is, is use.



+1

Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because 
of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977
Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are 
unusable in page layout.

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

2012-05-03 Thread Hagar Delest


Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a 
écrit :

2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com


Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now.
Should be interesting.



Good!

How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb


No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the 
tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the 
--force-all option.

The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO 
icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).

Hagar

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

2012-05-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?


If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user 
survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), 
for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.


You can get an idea of the survey at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1


Am 05/03/2012 09:57 PM, schrieb Andreas Säger:

Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are
not enough; what is, is use.



+1

Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because
of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977
Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are
unusable in page layout.


I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning

Marcus

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

2012-05-03 Thread RGB ES

2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
 On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

 One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
 OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?


 If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
 (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
 registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.

 You can get an idea of the survey at
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey

 Regards,
  Andrea.

It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The
registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
author.

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:

 Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto 
 biasut...@gmail.com a écrit :

  2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com

  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
 now.
 Should be interesting.



 Good!

 How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb


 No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
 the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
 need of the --force-all option.

 The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
 LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).

 Hagar


I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar
office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
:-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
12.04

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Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?

I don't recall the registration doing this...

If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob

I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.

If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what?

well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this
one... I don't have any ideas...

I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples
(don't look to close to content and size)

http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg

http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif

http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist

2012-05-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

On 05/02/2012 09:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, J�rgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the
bits

Source release reflecting a future directory structure already:

.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/...

Binary releases keeping the old structure:
.../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/...

The directories will include all files (including the checksum files)
for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US
only and o only in ...files/stable

Juergen

Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being.

Hi all,

We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more
files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner.

Roberto--

Hi. Well my test index page worked well with my linux setup for client
download -- i.e. from

files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download

so happy so far. :)

Thanks for the feedback.

Roberto

Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is staged on sourceforge, which means
that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors
browsing the files will not see them.

By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage
updates to serve the Look for updates function?

Roberto

MzK

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And life has a funny way of helping you out
Helping you out.
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Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction




On 04/30/2012 08:30 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
replace closer.cgi with aoo-closer.cgi in your
paths.� Please don't forget this or users could
be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
carrying AOO releases.




OK, Joe -- I just tested this out as well, and all good!

Thanks so much!





From: Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably 
correction

Regina--

Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:


Hi,

my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.

kind regards
Regina

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

� Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:





On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:




On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

� On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org



wrote:

� Kay Schenk wrote:




Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
/download/index.html page at:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html
http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html





Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
wanted
you to see, but will of course go away in production.




The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.

We have another thread
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**
ooo.devel/16219http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219





where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
(i.e.,
downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the Look for updates
function)


� That's what I understand as well.




oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
well
-- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
SourceForge for that though.



� The possibly Apache in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't

understood


yet
what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
only
sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
release
sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).



� Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the

security
patch info page...

http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html
http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html






and you can see what the link looks like.

Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/
http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/
**



This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
Right now, the SF setup is more user friendly in my opinion. I
thought we
were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
someplace
else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.

The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
be one
place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
else with
an entirely different look and feel.



� Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,

mainly to
be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
that
thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.


� So how about something very simple:


1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
/download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.



This WOULD make things a lot simpler.


� But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:


a) Hashes and detached signatures
b) source distribution
c) a link to the full release tree



Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
openoffice.org they have, right?

Anyway, good conversation.


� In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal

users will download from SF.

2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF.

Re: Getting Started with AOO book

2012-05-03 Thread Guy Waterval

Hi Jean,

2012/5/2 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com


 Over the years I've done quite a bit of that type of recruitment. My
 experience is that such efforts mostly bring forth a collection of
 wannabe writers who waste enormous amounts of my time and produce
 nothing useful, and reviewers who nitpick but don't notice actual
 errors in content. The few productive members of the ODFAuthors team
 appear to have come on their own, and those few make great
 contributions.

 For the various reasons mentioned above, I personally am not motivated
 to do any of the sort of recruitment you suggest at this time. If
 someone else wants to do so, that's fine.


I can understand your reticence with a too big campaign of recrutement. The
Take all what you find, put all the business in a pot, add a liter ketchup
and mix is a modern method of management but certainly not a good one.;-)
But you haven't to be demotivated, because with a few people you have
produced, without noise, an useful and concret work. Thus,  you haven't to
assume all the job here, this project has also to take its
responsabilities, but your experience has a high value here where all has
to be started.

A+
-- 
gw

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
  On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
 
  One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
  OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
 
 
  If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
  (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
  registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
 
  You can get an idea of the survey at
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
 
  Regards,
   Andrea.
 
 It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The
 registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
 Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
 info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
 example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
 the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
 author.
 
 Regards

Hi Ricardo

That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information. 

I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement. 

Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
(strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
enter that information.

What do you think?

//drew

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce


Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Thanks

Marcus

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

2012-05-03 Thread RGB ES

2012/5/3 drew d...@baseanswers.com:
 On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
  On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
 
  One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
  OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
 
 
  If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
  (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
  registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
 
  You can get an idea of the survey at
  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
 
  Regards,
   Andrea.

 It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The
 registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
 Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
 info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
 example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
 the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
 author.

 Regards

 Hi Ricardo

 That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
 loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information.

 I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
 description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement.

 Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
 (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
 enter that information.

 What do you think?

 //drew



Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define
a first run wizard or something like that. It could be a simple
document that opens on first run with a thanks for using this
program message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic
customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep
today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on
something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;)

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:
 
  Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto 
  biasut...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
   2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com
 
   Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
  now.
  Should be interesting.
 
 
 
  Good!
 
  How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
 
 
  No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
  the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
  need of the --force-all option.
 
  The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
  LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).
 
  Hagar
 
 
 I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar
 office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
 :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
 12.04
 

Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
system settings for the file association.

That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.

//drew

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-05-03 Thread Dave Fisher


On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 Hi Marcus,
 
 Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
 Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
 
 
 
 
 
 Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
 would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
 volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
 
 Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
 logic on the various NL pages.
 
 I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
 
 Good idea to start.
 
 
 The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 
 
 The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
 green button but there is no green button.
 
 The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
 
 The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
 legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
 
 Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
 from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
 
 I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
 
 Legacy OpenOffice.org
 
 If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
 the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
 archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
 it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
 and better choice.
 OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
 v3 (LGPL v3)
 
 Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
 
 ...
 
 Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
 the right words. ;-)
 
 Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.
 
 Marcus
 
 I've edited both webpages again:
 
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html

I have only one criticism.

The phrase: OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public 
License v3 (LGPL v3) appears twice on the same button.

Otherwise great!

Regards,
Dave

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
 
 When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
 
 Thanks
 
 Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

 Hi Marcus,

 Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

 Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





 Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
 would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
 volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

 Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
 logic on the various NL pages.


 I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


 Good idea to start.


 The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


 The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
 green button but there is no green button.

 The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

 The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
 legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

 Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
 from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

 I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

 Legacy OpenOffice.org

 If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
 the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
 archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
 it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
 and better choice.
 OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
 v3 (LGPL v3)

 Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

 ...


 Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
 the right words. ;-)

 Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

 Marcus


 I've edited both webpages again:

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

 When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.


On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

 I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org button.  But nothing does.  WinXP/Firefox 12.0.  The
icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing.  The other boxes work fine.

Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?

The other.html page looks and works fine.

Good work!

-Rob

 Thanks

 Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce


Am 05/03/2012 11:25 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:


On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link  webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


I have only one criticism.

The phrase: OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License 
v3 (LGPL v3) appears twice on the same button.


Really the same? For me it's a) in the bigger one and b) in the first 
small one. But maybe doesn't matter.


In a) I wanted to explain what the lisence is and in b) to refer to the 
full text.


However, as Pedro wanted to remove all pre-ALv2 lisencing text from 
http://www.openoffice.org/license.html; I will link directly to the 
text from GNU.org and name the link different.



Otherwise great!


Thanks

Marcus


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Thanks

Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-05-03 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks






Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear
now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and 
AOO. Therefore the wording start downloading the most recent version 
might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the 
user might think, the most recent version in general.


Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the 
heading. So the additional information about language and OS is 
sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user 
expects to get the most recent one when using default settings.


Suggestions
(1) Add legacy
 Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows 
and German.

(2) or skip it totally
Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German.
(3) or repeat the version string from the heading
Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German.

I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it 
struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that 
they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera 
shows the green part too, when the page is produced.


The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That 
produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is 
a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when 
clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup.


Kind regards
Regina


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce




On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:


Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks






Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.



I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.



Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
visit
thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...



Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
clear now.

Marcus



I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.



On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The


I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).


icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing. The other boxes work fine.


In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(


oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css




Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?


I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.


OK, so how DO we want this linked in?

Right now, we have --


Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language 
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums


in the light green DL button options section on:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

the test DL page.

Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace...

( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)




The other.html page looks and works fine.





Good work!


Thanks

Marcus



--

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
  Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 wrote:
 
  Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
  Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 
 
  Hi Marcus,
 
  Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
 
 
  Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
 
  Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
 
 
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
  would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have
 a
  volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
 
  Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
 download
  logic on the various NL pages.
 
 
 
  I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
 
 
 
  Good idea to start.
 
 
  The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 
 
  The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
  text
  green button but there is no green button.
 
  The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
 
  The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
  legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
 
  Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
 ,
  from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
 
  I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
 
  Legacy OpenOffice.org
 
  If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
  visit
  thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
  archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
  it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
  other
  and better choice.
  OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
 License
  v3 (LGPL v3)
 
  Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
 
  ...
 
 
 
  Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
  find
  the right words. ;-)
 
  Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
  clear now.
 
  Marcus
 
 
 
  I've edited both webpages again:
 
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
 
  When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
 
 
  On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
 
  I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy
  OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
 
 
  I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
  infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
  pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
 
  icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
  does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
 
 
  In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
  default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
 :-(
 
 
  oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
 


 I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a p and not
 have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
 like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.

 
 
  Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
 
 
  I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
  should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
 
 
  OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
 
  Right now, we have --
 
 
  Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
 packs
  | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
 
  in the light green DL button options section on:
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
 
  the test DL page.
 
  Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
 someplace...
 
  ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there!
 oops!)
 

 Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!

 One idea to support the legacy links:

 Right now we have three simple links under the top button:

 Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
 packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums

 What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this:

 Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes |
 Signatures and Hashes


fine...



 (note in this version I've changed MD5 checksum to Signatures and
 Hashes since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well
 as a detached signature.   And that reminds me we'll need a page
 for that.


...uh, OK, where do we get them I don't see anything like this right
now

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

Am 05/04/2012 12:12 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
AOO+3.4+Distribution+Taskshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
download
logic on the various NL pages.

I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.

Good idea to start.

The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html

The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/**
download/archive.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
visit
thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...

Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
clear now.

Marcus

I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**other.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

On
http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
:

I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The

I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).

icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing. The other boxes work fine.

In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(

oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css

Yes, maybe someone else can enlighten me?

so sorry...I am not even close to being a css guru. :(

Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?

I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.

OK, so how DO we want this linked in?

Right now, we have --

Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums

in the light green DL button options section on:

http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

the test DL page.

Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
someplace...

I would +1 to put it in the nav bar on the right hand side. An own sub
headline is fine, too.

Marcus

( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)

The other.html page looks and works fine.

Good work!

Thanks

Marcus

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
And life has a funny way of helping you out
Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

[DL] question concerning NL downloads...or not

Just a quick philosophical questions for the upcoming 3.4 download.

Right now, as I relayed in a previous message, I commented out ALL the
language entries for which we have do not have packs available on our
Apache mirror setup. What this means is that folks with a language string
identifier which we are no longer supporting will probably end up on the
other.html page, which is in English.

Another option would be to setup the language array by placing them back in
the process, and,  instead of commenting them out, indicate through one of
the flags already available that the release for the language is NOT
available on the mirror system, as many of them were already. Folks will
then be sent back to their current native language site. There, of course,
they will not find an update, but they won't be any worse off than they are
now in some respects.

Any thoughts on this? Is the latter alternative more desirable -- or not.


-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce


Am 05/03/2012 11:54 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks







Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
green button but there is no green button.

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear
now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and
AOO. Therefore the wording start downloading the most recent version
might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the
user might think, the most recent version in general.

Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the
heading. So the additional information about language and OS is
sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user
expects to get the most recent one when using default settings.

Suggestions
(1) Add legacy
Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows
and German.
(2) or skip it totally
Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German.
(3) or repeat the version string from the heading
Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German.

I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it
struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that
they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera
shows the green part too, when the page is produced.

The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That
produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is
a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when
clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup.


Thanks for your hints. Just to let you know that this will be my task 
for tomorrow.


Marcus


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
  Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 wrote:
 
  Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
  Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 
 
  Hi Marcus,
 
  Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
 
 
  Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
 
 
  Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 
 
 
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
  would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have
 a
  volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
 
  Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
 download
  logic on the various NL pages.
 
 
 
  I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
 
 
 
  Good idea to start.
 
 
  The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 
 
  The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
  text
  green button but there is no green button.
 
  The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
 
  The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
  legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
 
  Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
 ,
  from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
 
  I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
 
  Legacy OpenOffice.org
 
  If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
  visit
  thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that
  archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
  it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
  other
  and better choice.
  OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
 License
  v3 (LGPL v3)
 
  Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
 
  ...
 
 
 
  Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
  find
  the right words. ;-)
 
  Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
  clear now.
 
  Marcus
 
 
 
  I've edited both webpages again:
 
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
 
  When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
 
 
  On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
 
  I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy
  OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
 
 
  I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
  infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
  pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
 
  icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
  does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
 
 
  In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
  default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
 :-(
 
 
  oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
 


 I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a p and not
 have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
 like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.

 
 
  Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
 
 
  I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
  should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
 
 
  OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
 
  Right now, we have --
 
 
  Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
 packs
  | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
 
  in the light green DL button options section on:
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
 
  the test DL page.
 
  Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
 someplace...
 
  ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there!
 oops!)
 

 Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!

 One idea to support the legacy links:

 Right now we have three simple links under the top button:

 Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
 packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums

 What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this:

 Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes |
 Signatures and Hashes


 fine...



 (note in this version I've changed MD5 checksum to Signatures and
 Hashes since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well
 as a detached signature.   And that reminds me we'll need a page
 for that.

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org
On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
wrote:
 
   Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto 
   biasut...@gmail.com a écrit :
  
2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com
  
Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system
right
   now.
   Should be interesting.
  
  
  
   Good!
  
   How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
  
  
   No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have
donwloaded
   the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line,
no
   need of the --force-all option.
  
   The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get
the
   LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem
(for me).
  
   Hagar
  
 
  I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple
very-similar
  office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
  :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
  12.04
 

 Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
 multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
 distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
 association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
 system settings for the file association.

 That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
 to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
 be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
 the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.

 //drew

Oh, right.  I see.
I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old
associations or leaving them alone as they were.
-Wolf

Re: Introduces

2012-05-03 Thread luizheli

Hi,

Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the
whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return.

rgs

Luiz


Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu:
 Welcome Luiz!  I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have alot
 of work to do!  I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes
 officially public as soon as next week.

 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto 
 biasut...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Luiz.

 2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
 the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
 magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
 BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some
 editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with
 the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here
 in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to
 contribute to more Brazilians know it.

 [1]

 http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw
 rgds,

 Luiz Oliveira

 Welcome friend. ;)

 We are the list Escritório Livre [1].

 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org

 Best,
 Albino @bino28

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 19:42 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
 http://sourcefreedom.com
 Apache developer:
 wolfhal...@apache.org
 On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
   On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
 wrote:
  
Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto 
biasut...@gmail.com a écrit :
   
 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com
   
 Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system
 right
now.
Should be interesting.
   
   
   
Good!
   
How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
   
   
No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have
 donwloaded
the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line,
 no
need of the --force-all option.
   
The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get
 the
LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem
 (for me).
   
Hagar
   
  
   I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple
 very-similar
   office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
   :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
   12.04
  
 
  Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
  multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
  distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
  association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
  system settings for the file association.
 
  That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
  to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
  be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
  the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.
 
  //drew
 
 Oh, right.  I see.
 I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old
 associations or leaving them alone as they were.

Hi Wolf,

My opinion would be that for the first step we would to deliver from the
PPA exactly the same results one would get downloading the binary DEB
files and following the manual installation procedure.

Once we actually have that, checked and functioning well, IMO we should
look at what extensions are appropriate - that issue of mime/assoc one,
integration support for Unity, what do about Evolution.. etc. Anyway so
I'd think.

//drew

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

2012-05-03 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

2012/5/3 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net

 Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto 
 biasut...@gmail.com a écrit :

  2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com

  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
 now.
 Should be interesting.



 Good!

 How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb


 No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
 the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
 need of the --force-all option.

 The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
 LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).


Understand, thanks.
Albino

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-05-03 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning

 Marcus


One question?!

The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next
version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages and then.

It would be a good idea, if he make available.

Thanks,
Albino

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-05-03 Thread Donald Harbison

Juergen et al, (*and I mean everyone*!),

This is so amazing. My 'hats', my 'Apache Hat', 'my IBM Hat', are off to
you guys. If I may be so direct as to say, we have come together in a new
way, fashioning the future from the past. This may sound simple, but it is
not. I think we can agree on this.

This is just the beginning. We have very many steep hills to climb and more
trust to build and more arguments to wage. That's the norm, right? Our
users depend on us now, we must not let them down, while we invite them to
join and work with us at the same time.

Onwards!

/don

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote:

 The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1  has
 concluded.

 The ballot passed.

 VOTE TALLY

 +1:

 IPMC members:

 +1 Marvin Humphrey
 +1 Dave Fisher
 +1 Jim Jagielski

 For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev

 http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-**
 dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E


 Thank you for your support

 Juergen

Re: Introduces

2012-05-03 Thread Donald Harbison

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM, luizheli luizh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the
 whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return.


OK, great. Please hold 'your fire' until I provide you the final draft of
the Press Release for your translation. I hope to deliver this to you by
the end of tomorrow, Friday, May 4.
That should give you enough time to prepare your plans for Brasil, and
coordinate our schedules for announcement on May 8th.

Thank you!

/don

 rgs

 Luiz


 Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu:
  Welcome Luiz!  I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have
 alot
  of work to do!  I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes
  officially public as soon as next week.
 
  On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto 
 biasut...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi Luiz.
 
  2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com
 
  Hi,
 
  I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
  the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
  magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
  BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some
  editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with
  the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here
  in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to
  contribute to more Brazilians know it.
 
  [1]
 
 
 http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw
  rgds,
 
  Luiz Oliveira
 
  Welcome friend. ;)
 
  We are the list Escritório Livre [1].
 
  1 - www.escritoriolivre.org
 
  Best,
  Albino @bino28

Need to rename ure-runtime

2012-05-03 Thread Fernando Cassia

Hi,

I am runnign Fedora 17. On it I installed Apache OO 3.4 RC1.
I do not have LibreOffice installed on my system.

However, launching the system updater notifies me that there is an
update available for URE-Runtime (a component of LibreOffice) and
proceeds to install such update.

Needless to say, this installs over Apache OO 3.4 ure-runtime.
If an update from the Fedora repos breaks Apache OpenOffice 3.4 who's to
blame?.

I asked this on the Fedora mailing list and Caolán McNamara
caol...@redhat.com replied:

--
Both Fedora openoffice.org and the original upstream openoffice.org
ended up with a package called openoffice.org-ure. From various twists
and turns the Fedora -ure ended up with a 1 Epoch so all fedora -ure
packages are a higher n-v-r that the OOo one. Apache OOo has now
presumably got the same package names as well.

Fedora libreoffice has an upgrade path to update the Fedora
openoffice.org so it would attempt to upgrade anything called
openoffice.org-ure if installed.

Can block the libreoffice-ure in your yum.conf
--

I think this needs to be adressed by either LibreOffice or Apache OO so
that neither package steps over the ure-runtime of the other.

Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks.
FC
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell

Re: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data

2012-05-03 Thread Nancy K

These are wonderful ideas! If the person that installs OpenOffice gets a thank 
you notice PLUS links to help customize their experience - i.e. template links, 
etc.   Everyone likes to personalize - and it also leaves a good feeling when 
you get an unexpected bonus. 

I have an idea for a thank you design or maybe an email design - tell me what 
you think:
* An international envelope design - 
* 
http://www.123rf.com/photo_4088994_airmail-letter-with-uk-postage-meter-stamp.html
* 
http://www.123rf.com/photo_9237063_blank-air-mail-letter-from-ivory-coast-with-football-world-cup-stamp-on-it-cancelled-in-agboville.html (using
 the wings and OpenOffice in place of the plane and par avion )

* The Apache OpenOffice logo on a stamp outline (similar to this but 
without any particular 
country)http://www.123rf.com/photo_12662325_photo-postage-stamp-on-a-black-background.html
* Javascript or php enabled entries so that the user WANTS to fill out 
the form - I very much like this example - scroll down halfway and look at this 
comment box that lets the user fill out the name, etc. This is a lot more 
talent than I have, but the general 
idea http://www.livingdesign.info/2012/04/30/incept-by-alex-teuscher/#respond  

Since you mention meta data, is there any organic SEO research going on at this 
time?  If so, I would suggest providing any information compiled from this new 
form/page, old openoffice.org audience information plus any new information 
gained from Google (and other) analytics in one wiki. Possibly a future/current 
SEO page?  Knowing how the user found OpenOffice would help in organic SEO 
keyword research. This could help us design new landing pages. Keyword research 
would also reveal the words to be placed strategically in articles, blogs and 
the 'alt' section/title/heading tags of the html code. 

Nancy  
 
     Nancy      Web Design   
Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
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 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data
 
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:13 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
 2012/5/3 drew d...@baseanswers.com:
  On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
  2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
   On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
  
   One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
   OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
  
  
   If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
   (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
   registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
  
   You can get an idea of the survey at
   http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
  
   Regards,
    Andrea.
 
  It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The
  registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
  Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
  info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
  example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
  the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
  author.
 
  Regards
 
  Hi Ricardo
 
  That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
  loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information.
 
  I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
  description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement.
 
  Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
  (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
  enter that information.
 
  What do you think?
 
  //drew
 
 
 
 Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define
 a first run wizard or something like that. It could be a simple
 document that opens on first run with a thanks for using this
 program message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic
 customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep
 today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on
 something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;)
 
 Regards

Howdy Ricardo

Wonderful - I changed the subject (as you see).

I was thinking also, prompted from another email just now that pointed
to a 3.4.1 feature request page, that there is a 4.0 feature request
page on the cwiki also.. per change that is an even better vector to
start with.

Catch you later,

//drew

Re: Propose testlink

+1
Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.

2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
    As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test 
 management, such as test project management, test specification management, 
 test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we 
 will gain lots of benefit.

   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I 
 can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 
 GB. Who can help?

 Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji




-- 
Best Regards
From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread lifeng wang

Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:
   Rob Weir wrote:
 
  Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
  password?
 
 
  Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
   --
  Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
  must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
  your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
 footer.
 
  [so far, instruction still apply]
 
  Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
 myuser,
  then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
  myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
  e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
  pre-migration to the ASF.
 
  [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
 address -
  the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
 reported
  that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
 months
  ago]

 OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

 Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

 -Rob

   --
  Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

Works fine for me right now.

Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

-Rob


 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:
   Rob Weir wrote:
 
  Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
  password?
 
 
  Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
   --
  Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
  must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
  your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
 footer.
 
  [so far, instruction still apply]
 
  Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
 myuser,
  then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
  myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
  e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
  pre-migration to the ASF.
 
  [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
 address -
  the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
 reported
  that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
 months
  ago]

 OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

 Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

 -Rob

   --
  Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: Propose testlink

2012-05-03 Thread lifeng wang

+1
support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks

2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com

 +1
 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
 case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
 feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.

 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
   Hi all,
 As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
 test management, such as test project management, test specification
 management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
 project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
 
I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
 place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
 about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
 
  Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji
 



 --
 Best Regards
 From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread lifeng wang

fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)

2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
 
  2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 Works fine for me right now.

 Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

 -Rob

 
  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
  wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
  
   Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
   password?
  
  
   Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
--
   Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
 tracker
   must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
 reset
   your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
  footer.
  
   [so far, instruction still apply]
  
   Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
  myuser,
   then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
   myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to
 the
   e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
   pre-migration to the ASF.
  
   [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
  address -
   the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
  reported
   that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
  months
   ago]
 
  OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 
  Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
 
  -Rob
 
--
   Regards,
Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday.
I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird.
I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP.


2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 Works fine for me right now.

 Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

 -Rob


 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:
   Rob Weir wrote:
 
  Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
  password?
 
 
  Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
   --
  Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
  must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
  your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
 footer.
 
  [so far, instruction still apply]
 
  Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
 myuser,
  then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
  myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
  e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
  pre-migration to the ASF.
 
  [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
 address -
  the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
 reported
  that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
 months
  ago]

 OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

 Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

 -Rob

   --
  Regards,
   Andrea.




-- 
Best Regards
From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

Li Feng,

Network problem, please use proxy.

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/4 lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com

 Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
  wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
  
   Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
   password?
  
  
   Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
--
   Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
 tracker
   must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
 reset
   your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
  footer.
  
   [so far, instruction still apply]
  
   Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
  myuser,
   then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
   myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to
 the
   e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
   pre-migration to the ASF.
  
   [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
  address -
   the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
  reported
   that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
  months
   ago]
 
  OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 
  Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
 
  -Rob
 
--
   Regards,
Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Schaefer

From what IP address are you trying to connect?
If you send it to me privately I'll check our
firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
little else we can do.





 From: lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
 
fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)

2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
 
  2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 Works fine for me right now.

 Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

 -Rob

 
  On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
  wrote:
    Rob Weir wrote:
  
   Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
   password?
  
  
   Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
    --
   Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
 tracker
   must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
 reset
   your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or
  footer.
  
   [so far, instruction still apply]
  
   Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
  myuser,
   then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
   myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to
 the
   e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
   pre-migration to the ASF.
  
   [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
  address -
   the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
  reported
   that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
  months
   ago]
 
  OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 
  Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
 
  -Rob
 
    --
   Regards,
    Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread Peter Junge

I'm located in Beijing Haidian district. I can reach issues.apache.org 
both from my employers office (AFAIK hosted by China Unicom) and with my 
phone (China Mobile), without any trick.


Peter

On 5/4/2012 10:23 AM, Zhe Liu wrote:

Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday.
I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird.
I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP.


2012/5/4 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wangphoenix.wan...@gmail.com  wrote:

Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

2012/5/3 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org


Works fine for me right now.

Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

-Rob




On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org
wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:


Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?



Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
  --
Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or

footer.


[so far, instruction still apply]

Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was

myuser,

then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
pre-migration to the ASF.

[this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail

address -

the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users

reported

that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account

months

ago]


OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

-Rob


  --
Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Grignon

Hello everyone,

Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on
how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly.

In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our
story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important
to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives?

Regards,
Kevin
*

*
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi.

 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com

  Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
  approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
 
  To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives,
 the
  UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage
  scenarios.
 
  The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to
  compliment their physical and virtual realities.
 
  Thoughts? Interested?
 

 Good idea !

 I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;)

 Best,
 Albino

RE: Propose testlink

2012-05-03 Thread YangTerry


+1

This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result.



Thanks,

Wei

 Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800
 Subject: Re: Propose testlink
 From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 
 +1
 support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks
 
 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com
 
  +1
  Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
  case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
  feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
 
  2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
  As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
  test management, such as test project management, test specification
  management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
  project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
  
 I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
  place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
  about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
  
   Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji
  
 
 
 
  --
  Best Regards
  From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: Propose testlink

2012-05-03 Thread Dave Fisher

Please provide some information about TestLink.

What are the requirements? Is it an open source tool? What is the license? Is 
there a website with information?

Regards,
Dave

On May 3, 2012, at 7:51 PM, YangTerry wrote:

 
 +1
 
 This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Wei
 
 Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800
 Subject: Re: Propose testlink
 From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 
 +1
 support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks
 
 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com
 
 +1
 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
 case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
 feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
 
 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
   As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
 test management, such as test project management, test specification
 management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
 project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
 
  I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
 place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
 about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
 
 Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji
 
 
 
 
 --
 Best Regards
 From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: Introduce

2012-05-03 Thread Peter Junge


Hi Liu Tao,

nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-)

Peter

On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote:

Hello all,

I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.

I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district.

Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

regards,
LiuTao

2012-05-04



China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106

http://www.cs2c.com.cn
http://modularization.openoffice.org
mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn

Re: Propose testlink

Well, we  have used wiki for AOO 3.4 to record test cases and test results.
They are useful when test cases are not with a huge volume. For further
productive test cases management, one easy to use and maintenance tool is
must.

I give +1 here. But we need resolve the problem like:
- Does Apache host the server?
- Any legal issue?

Also we need test cases tool admin, would you like take this role?

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
 test management, such as test project management, test specification
 management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
 project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.

   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place
 I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about
 6.17 GB. Who can help?

 Thanks  Best Regards, Yan Ji

Re: Introduce

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Grignon

Welcome LiuTao.

Looking forward to your participation and insight into unique needs of the
Chinese user.

For information on areas where you and your team can have an impact, check
out: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted.

Regards,
Kevin



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, taotao.liu taotao@cs2c.com.cn wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.

 I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian
 district.

 Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

 regards,
 LiuTao

 2012-05-04



 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
 China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106

 http://www.cs2c.com.cn
 http://modularization.openoffice.org
 mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn

Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted

2012-05-03 Thread Nancy K

Kevin
I like this idea a lot and am interested in being involved in this approach if 
possible.  The few months I have read mail posts between the developers in this 
project have been such an eye opener.  I have never seen a group of peers work 
so beautifully together.  I get the sense of 'family' - only better. I look 
forward to hearing more of your ideas!
Nancy 
 
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 From: Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted
 
Hello everyone,

Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on
how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly.

In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our
story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important
to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives?

Regards,
Kevin
*

*
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi.

 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com

  Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
  approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
 
  To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives,
 the
  UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage
  scenarios.
 
  The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to
  compliment their physical and virtual realities.
 
  Thoughts? Interested?
 

 Good idea !

 I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;)

 Best,
 Albino

Re: Re: Introduce

2012-05-03 Thread taotao.liu


Nice to meet you here again Peter ;-)

 
Hi Liu Tao,
nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-)
Peter
On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote:

hi

2012-05-03 Thread 许山川

hi,all
I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,   
Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including 
the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress 
I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing 
to participate AOOo community.
Best Regards,

2012-05-04 



China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:35 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?

I don't recall the registration doing this...

If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

-Rob

I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.

If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what?

well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this
one... I don't have any ideas...

I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples
(don't look to close to content and size)

http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg

http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif

http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg

Hi Marcus

Nice, looked those over - took some inspiration from that and worked up a
graphic, thinking of course that this is going to a keep_in_touch type screen -
Is that right, what the idea was now.
Anyway - here is a png of the idea, I've again used the Oo.o 3 series
branding element, the wire wave - altered that just a tad with a change
form white to the current logo blue.

http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/g6897.png

What do you think?

//drew

[User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Grignon

Hello All,

Does anyone have an update on the status of the AOO user experience
project? See http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ for current information.

Are Frank Leohmann and Christoph Noack still involved?

How might we validate the names of UX community as found on:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Community?

Thoughts?

Regards,
Kevin

Re: Introduce

2012-05-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

Hello, Liu Tao!



On 2012-05-03, at 22:56 , taotao.liu wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. 
 
 I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district.
 
 Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

I'm delighted to see you and your colleague here on this list willing to 
contribute to Apache OpenOffice. I'm not sure everyone is familiar with your 
company's past work but if you would care to inform the list, I'd appreciate 
it.  

Please let me and the others here know how we can help you and get you and your 
team going. This community is very friendly, very supportive, and all that we 
do is transparent and accountable to the community, according to our bylaws. 

best,
Louis

PS this, like most other Apache lists, is public. Therefore I'd generally 
recommend against posting your telephone number and other data Spammers love.


 
 regards,
 LiuTao 
 
 2012-05-04 
 
 
 
 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
 China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106
 
 http://www.cs2c.com.cn
 http://modularization.openoffice.org
 mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn

Re: hi

2012-05-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

Hello Xu Shanchuan!

(BTW, would you be able to use a Roman alphabet name? Not all of us can 
decipher the ideograms.)


On 2012-05-03, at 23:35 , 许山川 wrote:

 hi,all
 I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,   
 Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including
 the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress
 I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing 
 to participate AOOo community.
 Best Regards,

I'm as delighted to greet you as I was your colleague :-) A lot has to be done, 
and I am sure we will appreciate your experience in this and your wisdom!  And 
I also see your company's great presence here as vital to growing the Beijing 
and even Chinese open source and OpenOffice community and market. 

Let me and the rest of us on this list know how we can help you and further 
ease your way into this very friendly, very global, very sleepless community :-)

Oh, as I mentioned to your colleague, you may want to refrain from including 
your Spam-friendly personal information. This list is public, and most Apache 
lists are that way, too.

Cheers,
Louis
  
 2012-05-04
 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
 hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: hi

2012-05-03 Thread Yue Helen

Welcome! Glad to see more and more developers in.

Helen

2012/5/4 许山川 shanchuan...@cs2c.com.cn

 **
  hi,all
 I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,
 Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including
 the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress
 I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong
 willing to participate AOOo community.
 Best Regards,

  2012-05-04
 --
   China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
 hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: Introduce

2012-05-03 Thread Yue Helen

Wonderful...with more developers in, we can do more in the next release.

2012/5/4 taotao.liu taotao@cs2c.com.cn

 Hello all,

 I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.

 I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian
 district.

 Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

 regards,
 LiuTao

 2012-05-04



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