Are there 3 wiki websites?

2012-05-08 Thread shzh zhao
hi,

Are there 3 wiki websites? What is the difference?
1. http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/
2. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/
3. https://cwiki.apache.org

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Re: Are there 3 wiki websites?

2012-05-08 Thread Zhe Liu
2012/5/8 shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com:
 hi,

 Are there 3 wiki websites? What is the difference?
 1. http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/
It's not AOO wiki.
 2. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/
It's AOO wiki which is migrated from the old OpenOffice.org. It's for
all users, developers and other contributors
 3. https://cwiki.apache.org
It's AOO wiki. It's just for project development and management.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
FYI, I found that http://zh.openoffice.org/ is a redirection to
http://www.openoffice.org/zh now, which then separates into two
directory trees.  The uniformed Chinese site does not exists.  The
content is already separated.  Keeping a uniformed Chinese entry page
does not make sense anymore.

This also means that separation of Traditional and Simplified
Chinese is not a big work at all.

On 2012/05/08 14:54, imacat said:
 On 2012/05/08 09:14, Zhe Liu said:
 we can keep the current website address and automatically choose
 Chinese traditional or simplified according to the user's locale, just
 keep one copy of each page. IMHO,that will be save more time.
 
 Well, I'm not thinking about saving more time.  I'm thinking about
 participation - which way may attract more local community that join our
 work.  If we have separate sites what local community feels more
 comfortable, the two languages may each attract more people to join our
 work.  Currently the zh-only site and especially forum attract only
 people from China, which is not right.
 
 Creating two sites requires more work, yes, but that is where we can
 call for volunteer for. ^_*'
 
 Besides, the current Chinese site is far too outdated.  The
 OpenOffice.org Chinese Project become history for years.  I was
 updating the 3.4 release information, and it come to my mind that, why
 not propose site separation altogether?
 
 If we agree, I shall start doing this in this week.  Currently we
 only need home page, download page and a news page.  Working on two
 sites for these pages is small work.

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Re: Build error on Mac for ucb/source/ucp/webdav...

2012-05-08 Thread Chao Huang
Thanks Juergen.

I will get the latest source code and launch a full build with configure
switch --disable-odk.


2012/5/8 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com

 On Tuesday, 8. May 2012 at 05:22, Chao Huang wrote:
  Does it mean that --disable-odk is not workable on Mac platform?
 
 

 No

 Juergen
 
 
  2012/5/8 Yong Lin Ma mayo...@gmail.com
 
   This is related with --disable-odk. The build is completed, once I
   removed it and pull the latest source code.
  
   On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Yong Lin Ma mayo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
I am using Mac OS X 10.6...
   
   
The build almost end, then I got error below
   
   
   
Compiling: ucb/source/ucp/webdav/DateTimeHelper.cxx
Compiling: ucb/source/ucp/webdav/UCBDeadPropertyValue.cxx
Making: ucpdav.lib
Making: _ucpdav.lib
cp ../../../unxmacxi.pro/misc/component_ucpdav1.map.exported-symbols
../../../unxmacxi.pro/misc/component_ucpdav1.map
Making: libucpdav1.dylib
/Volumes/Mac/ooo/main/solenv/bin/checkdll.sh
-L../../../unxmacxi.pro/lib
-L/Volumes/Mac/ooo/main/solver/340/unxmacxi.pro/lib
../../../unxmacxi.pro/lib/libucpdav1.dylib
Checking DLL ../../../unxmacxi.pro/lib/libucpdav1.dylib ...: ERROR:
dlopen(../../../unxmacxi.pro/lib/libucpdav1.dylib, 2): Library not
loaded: /Volumes/Mac/ooo/main/solver/340/
   
  
   unxmacxi.pro/lib/libexpat.0.dylib
Referenced from:
/Volumes/Mac/ooo/main/solver/340/
 unxmacxi.pro/lib/libaprutil-1.0.dylib
Reason: image not found
dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../../
   
  
   unxmacxi.pro/lib/libucpdav1.dylib'
dmake: '../../../unxmacxi.pro/lib/libucpdav1.dylib' removed.
ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/Volumes/Mac/ooo/main/ucb/source/ucp/webdav
   
   
Configure command I used
   
./configure --disable-mozilla --disable-qadevooo
--enable-category-b
--with-dmake-url=
   
  
   http://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.1.tar.bz2
 
--with-epm-url=
  
  
 http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz
   
--without-junit--enable-minimizer --enable-presenter-console
--enable-wiki-publisher
   
   
Thank you.
 
 
 
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Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week

2012-05-08 Thread Maho NAKATA
Hi

To take responsibility, wiki page has been updated. 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage

could you please tell me which and how to update web page?

http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ ?
http://ja.openoffice.org/ ? 
but how?

I can checkout svn 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/
but I couldn't find ...

thanks
 Nakata Maho

From: Maho NAKATA cha...@mac.com
Subject: Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 14:48:26 +0900 (JST)

 Hi
 
 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage
 I'll update Japanese NL page.
 
 thanks
  Nakata Maho
 
 From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
 Subject: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week
 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:41:29 -0400
 
 The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:
 
 
 Manually update the downloads from the Arabic NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Czech NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the German NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Spanish NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the French NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Hungarian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Galacian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Italian NL homepage and
 subpages (pescetti)
 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Dutch NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Brazilian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Russian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Simplified Chinese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Traditional Chinese NL homepage
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
 
 Only one of them has an owner (Thanks, Andrea!)
 
 What needs to be done?
 
 We need someone to review these NL pages and identify what needs to be
 changed to support the AOO 3..4 release.
 
 Changes to consider:
 
 1) Branding changes (OpenOffice.org - Apache OpenOffice)
 
 2) Updates to download location,  for the 3.4 releases instead of the
 3.3 release
 
 3) References to the old LGPL license need to be changed to Apache 2.0 
 License
 
 4) References to old NLC email addresses, marketing leads, etc., need
 to be replaced by the new Apache email lists.
 
 5) Other similar changes.
 
 You don't need to do a complete rewrite of the pages.  But we should
 refresh the page with information on the AOO 3.4 release.
 
 Timeline looks like this:
 
 -- Wednesday May 2nd -- Vote ends on approving the 3.4 release
 
 -- Thursday-Friday -- Update the mirrors with the release, test the
 new download websites.
 
 -- Over the weekend, additional website updates and testing
 
 -- Monday or Tuesday, if everything is working well, then we make
 public announcement
 
 
 So ideally we would have the NL website updates done at the end of
 this week.   However, we should not make them be live on the
 production server until after the mirrors are populated.  Maybe
 easiest way to coordinate is to submit patches for the changes into
 BZ?
 
 Any other ideas?
 
 Any volunteers?
 
 -Rob
 



Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week

2012-05-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Maho NAKATA wrote:

could you please tell me which and how to update web page?
http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ ?
http://ja.openoffice.org/ ?
but how?

I can checkout svn
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/
but I couldn't find ...


svn checkout 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/ja


(it's within your tree anyway)

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Query

2012-05-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

satyabrota kundu wrote:

every time I try to update openoffice I get ths error: Could not
establish network connection to update 36.services.openoffice.org.


This is an infrastructure problem, that will be addressed within a few 
weeks after OpenOffice 3.4 is released (which will happen this week). 
You won't need to do anything to fix it.


Regards,
  Andrea.


First News about the Release

2012-05-08 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/OpenOffice-meldet-sich-zurueck-1570310.html

Greetings Raphael
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Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week

2012-05-08 Thread Yong Lin Ma
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi

 To take responsibility, wiki page has been updated.
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage

 could you please tell me which and how to update web page?

 http://www.openoffice.org/ja/ ?
 http://ja.openoffice.org/ ?
 but how?

These two links should be mapped to the same place.

 I can checkout svn
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/
 but I couldn't find ...

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/ja/
You should work from here.


 thanks
  Nakata Maho

 From: Maho NAKATA cha...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week
 Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 14:48:26 +0900 (JST)

 Hi

 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage
 I'll update Japanese NL page.

 thanks
  Nakata Maho

 From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
 Subject: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week
 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:41:29 -0400

 The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:


 Manually update the downloads from the Arabic NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Czech NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the German NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Spanish NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the French NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Hungarian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Galacian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Italian NL homepage and
 subpages (pescetti)
 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Dutch NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Brazilian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Russian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Simplified Chinese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Traditional Chinese NL homepage

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

 Only one of them has an owner (Thanks, Andrea!)

 What needs to be done?

 We need someone to review these NL pages and identify what needs to be
 changed to support the AOO 3..4 release.

 Changes to consider:

 1) Branding changes (OpenOffice.org - Apache OpenOffice)

 2) Updates to download location,  for the 3.4 releases instead of the
 3.3 release

 3) References to the old LGPL license need to be changed to Apache 2.0 
 License

 4) References to old NLC email addresses, marketing leads, etc., need
 to be replaced by the new Apache email lists.

 5) Other similar changes.

 You don't need to do a complete rewrite of the pages.  But we should
 refresh the page with information on the AOO 3.4 release.

 Timeline looks like this:

 -- Wednesday May 2nd -- Vote ends on approving the 3.4 release

 -- Thursday-Friday -- Update the mirrors with the release, test the
 new download websites.

 -- Over the weekend, additional website updates and testing

 -- Monday or Tuesday, if everything is working well, then we make
 public announcement


 So ideally we would have the NL website updates done at the end of
 this week.   However, we should not make them be live on the
 production server until after the mirrors are populated.  Maybe
 easiest way to coordinate is to submit patches for the changes into
 BZ?

 Any other ideas?

 Any volunteers?

 -Rob




Re: Volunteers needed: To update NL download pages later this week

2012-05-08 Thread Yong Lin Ma
I am taking care of Simple Chinese site. iamcat already updated the
download page.

I also update the index. But don't know how long it will take for the
website get refreshed for the changes.

Still need update nav.js to refer to Apache 2.0 License.

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 The following tasks are on the wiki and need owners:


 Manually update the downloads from the Arabic NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Czech NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the German NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Spanish NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the French NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Hungarian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Galacian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Italian NL homepage and
 subpages (pescetti)
 Manually update the downloads from the Japanese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Dutch NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Brazilian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Russian NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Simplified Chinese NL homepage
 Manually update the downloads from the Traditional Chinese NL homepage

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

 Only one of them has an owner (Thanks, Andrea!)

 What needs to be done?

 We need someone to review these NL pages and identify what needs to be
 changed to support the AOO 3..4 release.

 Changes to consider:

 1) Branding changes (OpenOffice.org - Apache OpenOffice)

 2) Updates to download location,  for the 3.4 releases instead of the
 3.3 release

 3) References to the old LGPL license need to be changed to Apache 2.0 License

 4) References to old NLC email addresses, marketing leads, etc., need
 to be replaced by the new Apache email lists.

 5) Other similar changes.

 You don't need to do a complete rewrite of the pages.  But we should
 refresh the page with information on the AOO 3.4 release.

 Timeline looks like this:

 -- Wednesday May 2nd -- Vote ends on approving the 3.4 release

 -- Thursday-Friday -- Update the mirrors with the release, test the
 new download websites.

 -- Over the weekend, additional website updates and testing

 -- Monday or Tuesday, if everything is working well, then we make
 public announcement


 So ideally we would have the NL website updates done at the end of
 this week.   However, we should not make them be live on the
 production server until after the mirrors are populated.  Maybe
 easiest way to coordinate is to submit patches for the changes into
 BZ?

 Any other ideas?

 Any volunteers?

 -Rob


Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-08 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 07.05.2012 18:20, eric b wrote:


Le 7 mai 12 à 18:01, Regina Henschel a écrit :


Hi all,



Hi Regina,



user often ask why they cannot rotate pictures in Writer, e.g issue 3545.
There exists a tip to copy a picture from Draw to Writer, then it can be
rotated. But that Draw-picture is different from a Writer- picture.

I have made a table to collect the differences between Writer-pictures and
Draw-pictures.



Thanks a lot !

FYI, there was a little mismatch with the issue number, and I fixed it on the 
wiki



It is currently in my personal area on the Media-wiki. If you find it useful
and you know a suitable place, please tell me where to put it.



I think it it the right location. Let's wait for other opinions though ...




http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Regina/ComparisonWriterDrawPicture




That's a very good idea. As you probably read in the issue, I took over the
task, and I'll use this wiki page to report any progress and step done.

The idea is, as discussed with Oliver and Armin, to reuse some Draw features in
Writer, like (image rotation). There is a lot to do and any help is welcome.



Armin's and my idea is mainly removing the Writer implementation for 
images/pictures, introduce all its features missing in the Drawing Layer 
implementation for images/pictures and use the Drawing Layer implementation for 
images/pictures in Writer.

Our idea is quite old, but we never got the resources to work on it.
Unfortunately, all the work we had done in preparation is lost. This lost work 
mainly covers something like you Regina had done. It summarized all the features 
of the Writer implementation which are currently not available in the Drawing 
Layer implementation. It also contained some planning of the corresponding 
implementation. But, it is lost and needs to be done again.


Best regards, Oliver.



Current work in progress :

- I expermiented some hack (adding image Rotation), but something is missing

- reading most of the Draw code.
- comparing Writer and Draw shells.

Long term plan :
Make it work.

Are you interested to share / contribute to the task with me ?


Regards,
Erid




Fwd: ODF Command Line Tools -- Request for community feedback

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
Forwarding to a couple other related lists for feedback.  Responses
back to ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, please.

-Rob


-- Forwarded message --
From: Noah Tilton noahktil...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:15 AM
Subject: ODF Command Line Tools -- Request for community feedback
To: odf-...@incubator.apache.org


Hello,

I was selected as a gsoc2012 participant by the Apache Software
Foundation (ASF) for the ODF Command Line Tools (OCLT) project.  At
Rob Weir's suggestion, I have proposed an initial feedback period
(during Community Bonding) to gauge the interest and leanings of the
community regarding the OCLT tools.  My proposal document is less a
roadmap and more a hodgepodge of different ideas to solving the
problem of the OCLS:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8g_FgudO4EdbWk0T01Zbmo4RFU

Please feel free to discuss pros/cons of the different approaches I
have proposed, or to propose new ideas.

Cheers,

--
Noah


Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
    FYI, I found that http://zh.openoffice.org/ is a redirection to
 http://www.openoffice.org/zh now, which then separates into two
 directory trees.  The uniformed Chinese site does not exists.  The
 content is already separated.  Keeping a uniformed Chinese entry page
 does not make sense anymore.


Look at it also from the directory layout perspective:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/

Each language is a subdirectory of /ooo-site/trunk/content

We already have an example of similar differences.  For example we
have both a Portuguese website (/pt) and a Brazilian Portuguese
website (/pt-br).

So it sounds like you would do this;

1. create a new directory, content/zh-tw

2. svn copy the existing content from the old directory to the new directory

3. work on that content until it is ready to publish

4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw

5. Maybe also ask Infra to redirect requests from the old site to the new site

-Rob


    This also means that separation of Traditional and Simplified
 Chinese is not a big work at all.

 On 2012/05/08 14:54, imacat said:
 On 2012/05/08 09:14, Zhe Liu said:
 we can keep the current website address and automatically choose
 Chinese traditional or simplified according to the user's locale, just
 keep one copy of each page. IMHO,that will be save more time.

     Well, I'm not thinking about saving more time.  I'm thinking about
 participation - which way may attract more local community that join our
 work.  If we have separate sites what local community feels more
 comfortable, the two languages may each attract more people to join our
 work.  Currently the zh-only site and especially forum attract only
 people from China, which is not right.

     Creating two sites requires more work, yes, but that is where we can
 call for volunteer for. ^_*'

     Besides, the current Chinese site is far too outdated.  The
 OpenOffice.org Chinese Project become history for years.  I was
 updating the 3.4 release information, and it come to my mind that, why
 not propose site separation altogether?

     If we agree, I shall start doing this in this week.  Currently we
 only need home page, download page and a news page.  Working on two
 sites for these pages is small work.

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[ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased
to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on
Windows, MacOS and Linux.

Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org

The full release announcement can be read here:
http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html

Regards,

- The Apache OpenOffice PPMC


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi.

2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased
 to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on
 Windows, MacOS and Linux.

 Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org

 The full release announcement can be read here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html

 Regards,

 - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC


Excelent, congratulation!

Publishing the social networks pt-BR :)

Best,
Albino


Re: First News about the Release

2012-05-08 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
In English... below :

Raphael Bircher wrote:
 Hi

 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/OpenOffice-meldet-sich-zurueck-1570310.html

OpenOffice is back

Since Oracle gave the Open Office project in June 2011 to the Apache Software 
Foundation (ASF), the free office suite has been quiet. Now the project team 
under the new name of version 3.4 has Apache Open Office (AOO) for Windows, 
Linux and Mac OS X (Intel) enabled. The previous extension . Org has been 
deleted.

Compared to the version 3.3 released in January 2011, there are numerous 
improvements. With some tweaking to the code word processing, spreadsheet, 
presentation software and databases now run faster than its predecessor. By 
AES256 encryption, documents can now better protect against unauthorized access.

In the spreadsheet, the previous pilot data in pivot table is renamed and the 
restriction to 8 fields in the Layout dialog was removed. Other enhancements 
include revised Im-/Exportfilter for delimited text files (CSV), additional 
options in the equation editor and Math in the PDF export. All changes are in 
the Release Notes document.

thanks to Google Translate and my own imperfect knowledge; and thanks mostly 
to the actual release notes.

-louis



 Greetings Raphael


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Donald Harbison
Thanks Albino!

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi.

 2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

  The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased
  to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on
  Windows, MacOS and Linux.
 
  Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org
 
  The full release announcement can be read here:
  http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html
 
  Regards,
 
  - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC
 

 Excelent, congratulation!

 Publishing the social networks pt-BR :)

 Best,
 Albino



[URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Ross Gardler
The download binaries link from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken
-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Ross Gardler
It's OK, I got Rob in chat, he's fixing.

On 8 May 2012 14:54, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 The download binaries link from
 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken
 --
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com



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OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

The download binaries link from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken


I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the 
problem ...


Juergen


Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 8 May 2012 14:54:52 +0100
Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

 The download binaries link from
 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken

Working for me now from Ireland at 15:10 UTC+1 (your message + 15 mins)


-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie


Re: opengrok (containing ext_sources)

2012-05-08 Thread Nicolas Christener
Hi Jürgen

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 14:52 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
[...]
 great, we had only an updated version internally.
 
 How about including a second codeline for AOO340
 
 Something like:
 aoo3.4
 current

Done :)

 And maybe adapt the branding a little bit to include some AOO stuff.

Done - I hope it's okay this way?

 I hope that we can convince the infra team to host an official opengrok 
 instance at Apache in the future. Or if it is acceptable and you are 
 able to host it, we can make your instance the official one.
[...]

Sure, you can use this as the official one (it's a monitored VPS in a
datacenter) - don't hesitate to contact me, if we can support the
project regarding this.

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Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread drew jensen
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:09 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
  The download binaries link from
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken
 
 I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the 
 problem ...

I can - just tried - it's the http://www.openoffice.org/download/ that
is wrong, it's all leading to 3.3 currently.

//drew

 
 Juergen




Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Reizinger Zoltán

2012.05.08. 16:09 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta:

On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

The download binaries link from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken


I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm 
the problem ...


But the transfered link to http://www.openoffice.org/download/ sugest 
OOo 3.3, you can only download 3.4 from Get more patforms link.

Zoltan

Juergen





Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.huwrote:

 2012.05.08. 16:09 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta:

  On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

 The download binaries link from
 http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/is
  broken


 I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the
 problem ...

  But the transfered link to 
 http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/sugest
  OOo 3.3, you can only download 3.4 from Get more patforms link.


Yea, actually the download page has been changed, all I see is that it
points to AOO 3.3 and those downloads are regularly served.

Roberto


 Zoltan

 Juergen




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Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 5/8/12 4:29 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:

2012.05.08. 16:09 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta:

On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

The download binaries link from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken


I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm
the problem ...


But the transfered link to http://www.openoffice.org/download/ sugest
OOo 3.3, you can only download 3.4 from Get more patforms link.


that is indeed correct now, what happened? It was correct a few minutes ago

Juergen



Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread RGB ES
2012/5/8 drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:09 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
  The download binaries link from
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken

 I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the
 problem ...

 I can - just tried - it's the http://www.openoffice.org/download/ that
 is wrong, it's all leading to 3.3 currently.

 //drew


 Juergen



Weird... this morning, before the release announcement both
openoffice.org/download and download.openoffice.org gave me 3.4.
Something happened on site update.

Ricardo


Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:37 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/5/8 drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:09 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
  The download binaries link from
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ is broken

 I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the
 problem ...

 I can - just tried - it's the http://www.openoffice.org/download/ that
 is wrong, it's all leading to 3.3 currently.

 //drew


 Juergen



 Weird... this morning, before the release announcement both
 openoffice.org/download and download.openoffice.org gave me 3.4.
 Something happened on site update.


I just fixed it.  I may have broken it as well.  Not sure what
happened.  Roberto noticed a bad link to the templates site, so I
updated this in the CMS.  Trivial URL change.  But somehow it backed
out the Javascript updates to the old URLs.  Not sure how that
happened.

In any case, let's all be careful, check the diff's, etc., and make
sure we're checking in what we think we are checking it.

-Rob

 Ricardo


Re: APPR is enabled with AOO3.4 on Ubuntu 11.04

2012-05-08 Thread Armin Le Grand

Hi Chao Huang,

On 08.05.2012 10:04, Chao Huang wrote:

hi, Armin

The layout of text in Aoo 3.4 is better than that in FireFox. Here are
snapshots. Thanks!


Thanks for the feedback! Yay!

[..]

Sincerely,
Armin
--
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Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread James Lee
On 08/05/12, 15:47:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote regarding Re:
[URGENT] Broken download link:

On page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

Checksums  ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 is broken:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html




$ curl -I http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 14:50:59 GMT
Server: Apache/2.4.1 (Unix) OpenSSL/1.0.0g
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1






James.


Some download requests that should not exist

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
I'm monitoring the download requests going out from our website.  I'm
seeing requests for things that do not exist, like:

/download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ko.exe

/download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_pt.exe

/download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_fi.exe

/download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_vi.exe

This don't appear to be random users hacking the URL's themselves.
They are all coming from /download/index.html

-Rob


Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ochirov Nikolay
gdb is still writes to console - debugging symbols not found
Can anyone give an example of configure script for configuration with
debugging symbols
2012/5/8 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org

 Hi Nikolay,

 On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 12:25:15AM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
  Thank you, Ariel!
  I will try to deal with gbuild. This is somwthing new)
  In general, I want to debug feature Desktop::Main().  After correcting i
  have error in it.

 then you should rebuild trunk/main/desktop with debugging symbols *and*
 also add trunk/main/vcl. Note that soffice is simple a shell script, you
 should debug soffice.bin. A typical gdb session:

 ]$ gdb soffice.bin
 Reading symbols from
 /home/ariel/OOo/AOOo/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin...done.

 (gdb) break desktop::Desktop::Main
 Function desktop::Desktop::Main not defined.
 Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y
 Breakpoint 1 (desktop::Desktop::Main) pending.

 (gdb) start

 Temporary breakpoint 2 at 0x4011c3: file main.c, line 30.
 Temporary breakpoint 2, main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30
 30  SAL_IMPLEMENT_MAIN() {

 (gdb) c
 Continuing.

 Breakpoint 1, desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1772
 1772pExecGlobals = new ExecuteGlobals();

 (gdb) bt
 #0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1772
 #1  0x740ed3ba in ImplSVMain () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/vcl/source/app/svmain.cxx:193
 #2  0x740ed4ff in SVMain () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/vcl/source/app/svmain.cxx:230
 #3  0x779837eb in soffice_main () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/sofficemain.cxx:45
 #4  0x004011f4 in sal_main () at main.c:31
 #5  0x004011d9 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30



 Debugging AOO can take to very deep levels, there is no other way to
 learn this other than debugging. Some guys have set up an OpenGrok
 instance at http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/ you will find this tool
 rather useful.

 http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx#1770


 I forgot to add that when building individual modules not ported to
 gbuild, you should run

 build
 deliver


 deliver will copy the files to the solver. You don't need to re-build,
 re-package the whole office. I simply copy the files from
 trunk/main/solver/340/*/lib|bin to the office installation.


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina



Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Andre Fischer

Hm,

There was small typo in one of the build command line.  It should be

cd trunk/main/desktop
build debug=true dbglevel=3
^

The missing b does not lead to an error,  the debug information is just 
not added.


-Andre

On 08.05.2012 16:56, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:

gdb is still writes to console - debugging symbols not found
Can anyone give an example of configure script for configuration with
debugging symbols
2012/5/8 Ariel Constenla-Hailearie...@apache.org


Hi Nikolay,

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 12:25:15AM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:

Thank you, Ariel!
I will try to deal with gbuild. This is somwthing new)
In general, I want to debug feature Desktop::Main().  After correcting i
have error in it.


then you should rebuild trunk/main/desktop with debugging symbols *and*
also add trunk/main/vcl. Note that soffice is simple a shell script, you
should debug soffice.bin. A typical gdb session:

]$ gdb soffice.bin
Reading symbols from
/home/ariel/OOo/AOOo/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin...done.

(gdb) break desktop::Desktop::Main
Function desktop::Desktop::Main not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y
Breakpoint 1 (desktop::Desktop::Main) pending.

(gdb) start

Temporary breakpoint 2 at 0x4011c3: file main.c, line 30.
Temporary breakpoint 2, main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30
30  SAL_IMPLEMENT_MAIN() {

(gdb) c
Continuing.

Breakpoint 1, desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
/mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1772
1772pExecGlobals = new ExecuteGlobals();

(gdb) bt
#0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
/mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1772
#1  0x740ed3ba in ImplSVMain () at
/mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/vcl/source/app/svmain.cxx:193
#2  0x740ed4ff in SVMain () at
/mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/vcl/source/app/svmain.cxx:230
#3  0x779837eb in soffice_main () at
/mnt/build/openoffice/apache/trunk/main/desktop/source/app/sofficemain.cxx:45
#4  0x004011f4 in sal_main () at main.c:31
#5  0x004011d9 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30



Debugging AOO can take to very deep levels, there is no other way to
learn this other than debugging. Some guys have set up an OpenGrok
instance at http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/ you will find this tool
rather useful.

http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx#1770


I forgot to add that when building individual modules not ported to
gbuild, you should run

build
deliver


deliver will copy the files to the solver. You don't need to re-build,
re-package the whole office. I simply copy the files from
trunk/main/solver/340/*/lib|bin to the office installation.


Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina





Re: [CODE] need review for issue 119308

2012-05-08 Thread Yong Lin Ma
For boost/prj/d.lst, how about replacing

mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\detail
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash\detail
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\integer
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\integer\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\integer
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\hash\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\hash\detail\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash\detail

 with:

dos: sh -c cp -r ..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\integer
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost
dos: sh -c cp -r ..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:
 On 05.05.2012 08:51, eric b wrote:

 Hi,

 Can someone review the patch I attached to the issue ?
 See: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119308


 I did not compile it, but the patch looks good.

 Thank you,

 Andre



 Thanks in advance,
 Eric




Re: [URGENT] Broken download link

2012-05-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

James Lee wrote:

On page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

Checksums  ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 is broken:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html


I didn't fix it to avoid overlapping but the right link is
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html

(both for ASC, MD5, ... and for How to verify...)

Regards,
  Andrea.


Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+Social+Promotion+Kit

I've started the above page to collect stories and blog posts about
the AOO 3.4 release, along with other information that can be used by
the community to help promote this new release.

I've added some stuff there already.  Please help me with more
content.  If you notice press coverage or other useful information,
please update the wiki page.  I'm especially short of international
coverage.

Regards,

-rob


PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Sylvain DENIS
Hello,

I work on LinuxMint 12 and Ubuntu 11.10  12.04 (32bits) with OOo 3.2

I 've tested the AOO 3.4 but it is not operational. The software crashes
all the time. I work with a laptop + screen. For a presentation (slide show)
, the display is in the middle of both screens, not one only (at choice)

Thanks

-- 
Librement,

Sylvain DENIS
*ICT  FLOSS Specialist*
*RSRSi (Responsable Sécurité et Risques des Systèmes d'information)***


Re: Some download requests that should not exist

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk
oh--this is NOT good! I'll take a look at what's set up in the languages
array for them in just a bit. h

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 I'm monitoring the download requests going out from our website.  I'm
 seeing requests for things that do not exist, like:

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ko.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_pt.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_fi.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_vi.exe

 This don't appear to be random users hacking the URL's themselves.
 They are all coming from /download/index.html

 -Rob




-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


[RELEASE] our download page showed Network error

2012-05-08 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

browsing to http://openoffice.org/download two minutes ago gives me a page with 
the following content:

page
Network Error (tcp_error)

A communication error occurred: 
The Web Server may be down, too busy, or experiencing other problems preventing 
it from responding to requests. You may wish to try again at a later time.


For assistance, contact your network support team.
/page

Now, I am getting the original page, but it takes quite long to show it.


Best regards, Oliver.


Re: [CODE] need review for issue 119308

2012-05-08 Thread Andre Fischer

On 08.05.2012 17:12, Yong Lin Ma wrote:

For boost/prj/d.lst, how about replacing

mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\detail
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash\detail
mkdir: %_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\integer
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\integer\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\integer
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\hash\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash
..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional\hash\detail\*
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost\functional\hash\detail

  with:

dos: sh -c cp -r ..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\integer
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost
dos: sh -c cp -r ..\%__SRC%\misc\build\boost_1_39_0\boost\functional
%_DEST%\inc%_EXT%\boost


While this is technically possible, I strongly advise against it:


- The upper version copies only a part of the .../boost/integer and 
.../boost/functional directory trees.  The lower version copies 
everything in them.


- The dos: prefix in deliver scripts seems to be a seldomly used hack 
for some now unknown problem.


- If you look at main/solenv/bin/deliver.pl then you will see, that code 
for handling the normal copy lines is much more sophisticated than the 
code for dos: (compare do_copy to do_dos): eg do_copy only copies 
files that are newer than at the destination.




Best regards,
Andre




On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Andre Fischera...@a-w-f.de  wrote:

On 05.05.2012 08:51, eric b wrote:


Hi,

Can someone review the patch I attached to the issue ?
See: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119308



I did not compile it, but the patch looks good.

Thank you,

Andre




Thanks in advance,
Eric





Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Anton Meixome
2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+Social+Promotion+Kit

 I've started the above page to collect stories and blog posts about
 the AOO 3.4 release, along with other information that can be used by
 the community to help promote this new release.

 I've added some stuff there already.  Please help me with more
 content.  If you notice press coverage or other useful information,
 please update the wiki page.  I'm especially short of international
 coverage.

 Regards,

 -rob

Hi Rob, and all

At this moment, Galician

http://www.trasno.net/content/apache-openoffice-34-ve-luz
http://blog.openoffice.gl/aoo-apache-openoffice/article/apache-openoffice-3-4

and Facebook, Google+

I'm translating these release notes
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Notes

How can I send the translation for availability in child pages?

Tomorrow more
:-)



-- 
Antón Méixome - Galician Native Lang Coordination
Blog about Galician Office Suite
Galician community OOo.org  LibO
http://blog.openoffice.gl


Re: PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Sylvain DENIS
ok

have you a command with terminal for desinstallation OOo3.2 (I not use
LibrOffice)

Thanks

Sylvain

2012/5/8 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

 On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:22:42 +0200
 Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote:

  I work on LinuxMint 12 and Ubuntu 11.10  12.04 (32bits) with OOo 3.2
 
  I 've tested the AOO 3.4 but it is not operational. The software crashes
  all the time. I work with a laptop + screen. For a presentation (slide
 show)
  , the display is in the middle of both screens, not one only (at choice)

 Have you removed traces of any previous LibO/OOo installation?  I use
 Synaptic to remove libreoffice-core or openoffice-core before installing
 AOO 3.4.  Previous experience using Oracle OOo on Ubuntu deliverd with
 Go-OO showed that such removal was necessary, so I do it as a matter of
 course now.

 I have been using AOO Writer on Ubuntu 11.10 all afternoon on a 100k word
 file with no problems.


 --
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie




-- 
Librement,

Sylvain DENIS
*ICT  FLOSS Specialist*
*RSRSi (Responsable Sécurité et Risques des Systèmes d'information)***


Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Thanks, Rob and others, this a great page!

Louis

Anton Meixome wrote:
 2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+Social+Promotion+Kit

 I've started the above page to collect stories and blog posts about
 the AOO 3.4 release, along with other information that can be used by
 the community to help promote this new release.

 I've added some stuff there already.  Please help me with more
 content.  If you notice press coverage or other useful information,
 please update the wiki page.  I'm especially short of international
 coverage.

 Regards,

 -rob

 Hi Rob, and all

 At this moment, Galician

 http://www.trasno.net/content/apache-openoffice-34-ve-luz
 http://blog.openoffice.gl/aoo-apache-openoffice/article/apache-openoffice-3-4

 and Facebook, Google+

 I'm translating these release notes
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Notes

 How can I send the translation for availability in child pages?

 Tomorrow more
 :-)





Re: Some download requests that should not exist

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes, I messed up and the flags I thought were already changed for these
 non-existent language packs need to be changed...looked at the wrong
 field...I am on this now and will have it fixed shortly.  so sorry...


Great, no real harm done.  Just confusion for  1% of the downloads today.

-Rob


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 oh--this is NOT good! I'll take a look at what's set up in the languages
 array for them in just a bit. h


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 I'm monitoring the download requests going out from our website.  I'm
 seeing requests for things that do not exist, like:

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ko.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_pt.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_fi.exe

 /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_vi.exe

 This don't appear to be random users hacking the URL's themselves.
 They are all coming from /download/index.html

 -Rob




 --

 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
                             -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette





 --
 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
                            -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


Re: PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Sylvain DENIS
For my machine, i have not openoffice-core.

Normally, it-s ok, but i have the same prob

2012/5/8 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

 On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:43:52 +0200
 Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote:

  ok
 
  have you a command with terminal for desinstallation OOo3.2 (I not use
  LibrOffice)


 I would try

 sudo apt-get remove openoffice-core

 or more extremely

 sudo apt-get --purge openoffice-core

 but try the first one first - I doubt you'll need the second one.

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Re: PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:08:17 +0100
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:


ERROR!!

The second line in my last posting should read 
sudo apt-get --purge remove openoffice-core

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Re: PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:08:17 +0100
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:


 ERROR!!

 The second line in my last posting should read
 sudo apt-get --purge remove openoffice-core

 --
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie



I was considering revising the Installation instructions to recommend:

* checking for a symlink from OpenOffice to LibreOffice and removing it.

* If installation or startup problems occurs, completely de-installing OOo
3.3  (or older) if ti existed and removing it, then re-installing.

Should we make this revision ??? I

see:  http://download/common/instructions.html

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Re: Some download requests that should not exist

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  yes, I messed up and the flags I thought were already changed for these
  non-existent language packs need to be changed...looked at the wrong
  field...I am on this now and will have it fixed shortly.  so sorry...
 

 Great, no real harm done.  Just confusion for  1% of the downloads today.

 -Rob


hopefully this is fixed now...



  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  oh--this is NOT good! I'll take a look at what's set up in the languages
  array for them in just a bit. h
 
 
  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  I'm monitoring the download requests going out from our website.  I'm
  seeing requests for things that do not exist, like:
 
  /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ko.exe
 
  /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_pt.exe
 
  /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_fi.exe
 
  /download/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_vi.exe
 
  This don't appear to be random users hacking the URL's themselves.
  They are all coming from /download/index.html
 
  -Rob
 
 
 
 
  --
 
 
 
  MzK
 
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   And life has a funny way of helping you out
   Helping you out.
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  --
 
 
  MzK
 
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   And life has a funny way of helping you out
   Helping you out.
 -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette




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Re: First News about the Release

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:

 In English... below :

 Raphael Bircher wrote:
  Hi
 
 
 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/OpenOffice-meldet-sich-zurueck-1570310.html

 OpenOffice is back

 Since Oracle gave the Open Office project in June 2011 to the Apache
 Software Foundation (ASF), the free office suite has been quiet. Now the
 project team under the new name of version 3.4 has Apache Open Office (AOO)
 for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X (Intel) enabled. The previous extension .
 Org has been deleted.

 Compared to the version 3.3 released in January 2011, there are numerous
 improvements. With some tweaking to the code word processing, spreadsheet,
 presentation software and databases now run faster than its predecessor. By
 AES256 encryption, documents can now better protect against unauthorized
 access.

 In the spreadsheet, the previous pilot data in pivot table is renamed and
 the restriction to 8 fields in the Layout dialog was removed. Other
 enhancements include revised Im-/Exportfilter for delimited text files
 (CSV), additional options in the equation editor and Math in the PDF
 export. All changes are in the Release Notes document.

 thanks to Google Translate and my own imperfect knowledge; and thanks
 mostly to the actual release notes.

 -louis



WHEE! :)

yeah, google translate is not bad at all!


 
  Greetings Raphael




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Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ochirov Nikolay
Thank you, Andre, I notice that.
I rebuilt desktop module but still nothing happened.
I will try again)

2012/5/8 Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de

 Hm,

 There was small typo in one of the build command line.  It should be

cd trunk/main/desktop
build debug=true dbglevel=3
^

 The missing b does not lead to an error,  the debug information is just
 not added.

 -Andre


 On 08.05.2012 16:56, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:

 gdb is still writes to console - debugging symbols not found
 Can anyone give an example of configure script for configuration with
 debugging symbols
 2012/5/8 Ariel Constenla-Hailearielch@**apache.org arie...@apache.org

  Hi Nikolay,

 On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 12:25:15AM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:

 Thank you, Ariel!
 I will try to deal with gbuild. This is somwthing new)
 In general, I want to debug feature Desktop::Main().  After correcting i
 have error in it.


 then you should rebuild trunk/main/desktop with debugging symbols *and*
 also add trunk/main/vcl. Note that soffice is simple a shell script, you
 should debug soffice.bin. A typical gdb session:

 ]$ gdb soffice.bin
 Reading symbols from
 /home/ariel/OOo/AOOo/**openoffice.org3/program/**soffice.bin...done.

 (gdb) break desktop::Desktop::Main
 Function desktop::Desktop::Main not defined.
 Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y
 Breakpoint 1 (desktop::Desktop::Main) pending.

 (gdb) start

 Temporary breakpoint 2 at 0x4011c3: file main.c, line 30.
 Temporary breakpoint 2, main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30
 30  SAL_IMPLEMENT_MAIN() {

 (gdb) c
 Continuing.

 Breakpoint 1, desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/**trunk/main/desktop/source/app/**
 app.cxx:1772
 1772pExecGlobals = new ExecuteGlobals();

 (gdb) bt
 #0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0x7fffdc00) at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/**trunk/main/desktop/source/app/**
 app.cxx:1772
 #1  0x740ed3ba in ImplSVMain () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/**trunk/main/vcl/source/app/**
 svmain.cxx:193
 #2  0x740ed4ff in SVMain () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/**trunk/main/vcl/source/app/**
 svmain.cxx:230
 #3  0x779837eb in soffice_main () at
 /mnt/build/openoffice/apache/**trunk/main/desktop/source/app/**
 sofficemain.cxx:45
 #4  0x004011f4 in sal_main () at main.c:31
 #5  0x004011d9 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffddb8) at main.c:30



 Debugging AOO can take to very deep levels, there is no other way to
 learn this other than debugging. Some guys have set up an OpenGrok
 instance at 
 http://opengrok.adfinis-**sygroup.org/http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/you
  will find this tool
 rather useful.

 http://opengrok.adfinis-**sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-**
 trunk/main/desktop/source/app/**app.cxx#1770http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx#1770


 I forgot to add that when building individual modules not ported to
 gbuild, you should run

 build
 deliver


 deliver will copy the files to the solver. You don't need to re-build,
 re-package the whole office. I simply copy the files from
 trunk/main/solver/340/*/lib|**bin to the office installation.


 Regards
 --
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Re: PROB

2012-05-08 Thread Sylvain DENIS
It's ok now but i have the problem with projector for slideshow.

it's annoying when you work in education

thanks for you help

Sylvain

2012/5/8 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

  On Tue, 8 May 2012 17:08:17 +0100
  Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 
  ERROR!!
 
  The second line in my last posting should read
  sudo apt-get --purge remove openoffice-core
 
  --
  Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
 


 I was considering revising the Installation instructions to recommend:

 * checking for a symlink from OpenOffice to LibreOffice and removing it.

 * If installation or startup problems occurs, completely de-installing OOo
 3.3  (or older) if ti existed and removing it, then re-installing.

 Should we make this revision ??? I

 see:  http://download/common/instructions.html

 --

 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
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Introducing myself

2012-05-08 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Hello.

My name is Paulo. I'm a Claudio and Albino's friend and I would like to
help Apache OpenOffice project.

I'm not a developer, but I have some expertise in wikis (Mediawiki,
Moinmoin, Trac), translations (I am a former translator for BrOffice
Magazine and I helped to create contents for pt-br LibreOffice website and
wiki), localization (pootle), websites, blogs, and documentation (many
chapters of LibreOffice pt-br documentation have my contribution), etc.

I am available to help wherever it is necessary, within my skills described
above.

Cheers.

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Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Nikolay,

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:47:37PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
 Thank you, Andre, I notice that.
 I rebuilt desktop module but still nothing happened.
 I will try again)

There might be some missing step, please copy the steps you are
following, how and where are you copying the libraries with debugging
symbols, etc.


 2012/5/8 Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de
 
  Hm,
 
  There was small typo in one of the build command line.  It should be
 
 cd trunk/main/desktop
 build debug=true dbglevel=3
 ^

ups, my mistake!
Fixing this, and following the steps posted in the other mails should
work out of the box.


Regards
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La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Introducing myself

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk



On 05/08/2012 09:55 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:

Hello.

My name is Paulo. I'm a Claudio and Albino's friend and I would like to
help Apache OpenOffice project.

I'm not a developer, but I have some expertise in wikis (Mediawiki,
Moinmoin, Trac), translations (I am a former translator for BrOffice
Magazine and I helped to create contents for pt-br LibreOffice website and
wiki), localization (pootle), websites, blogs, and documentation (many
chapters of LibreOffice pt-br documentation have my contribution), etc.

I am available to help wherever it is necessary, within my skills described
above.

Cheers.




Hello Paulo, and nice to have you join us!

I'm sure we can use your skills! Feel free to have a look around and let 
us know how you'd like to help.



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Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi.

My blog in the WP [0]:

Can I edit the cwiki ?

0 - bino28.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/lancado-apache-openoffice-3-4

Best,
Albino


Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi.

2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto
 biasut...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi.
 
  My blog in the WP [0]:
 
  Can I edit the cwiki ?
 

 Yes, anyone can sign up for a wiki account.


I have account. :)

Thank you!

Best,
Albino


Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Nikolay,

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:08:37PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
 Hi,
 that's part of gdb session:
 ...
 Continuing.
 #0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0xbfc28244)
 at /home/user/ooo/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1670
 #1  0x018b410d in ImplSVMain() ()
from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
 #2  0x018b42a4 in SVMain() ()
from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
 #3  0x0027199c in soffice_main ()
 from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so
 #4  0x08048d14 in main ()
 
 there are no symbols for module vcl,  although i have rebuil /main/vcl so:
 cd ooo/main/vcl

did you clean first?

cd trunk/main/vcl
make -sr clean

 make -sr DEBUG=yes
 what am i doing wrong ?

and then copy the libraries from the solver to the office installation.


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Re: OOO 3.4 for Solaris

2012-05-08 Thread Nicolas Christener
Hi Ron, et al

On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:17 +, ron.daw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I exchanged some email with Rob Weir regarding an OpenOffice 3.4 port
 for Solaris (SPARC and x86) and he suggested that I offer my services
 in helping to test a port for Solaris.  I'd be happy to do that
 whenever a port is ready for testing.

We already have an older (2012-03-28, r1304871) OpenSolaris/SPARC build
ready: http://adfinis-sygroup.ch/aoo-solaris-sparc

A new build of 3.4 is currently in progress (building right now) - we'll
post to the list as soon as this build is available.

We are aware of two specific bugs which we try to fix within the next
few days (based on the 3.4 branch):
1.) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119263
2.) search (Ctrl+F) in writer seems broken (will fill issue later)

Any help in testing/fixing would be welcome :)

Don't hesitate to contact me, if you have any questions.

kind regards
Nicolas Christener

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
於 2012年05月08日 19:36, Rob Weir 提到:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
FYI, I found that http://zh.openoffice.org/ is a redirection to
 http://www.openoffice.org/zh now, which then separates into two
 directory trees.  The uniformed Chinese site does not exists.  The
 content is already separated.  Keeping a uniformed Chinese entry page
 does not make sense anymore.
 Look at it also from the directory layout perspective:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/
 Each language is a subdirectory of /ooo-site/trunk/content
 
 We already have an example of similar differences.  For example we
 have both a Portuguese website (/pt) and a Brazilian Portuguese
 website (/pt-br).
 
 So it sounds like you would do this;
 1. create a new directory, content/zh-tw
 2. svn copy the existing content from the old directory to the new directory
 3. work on that content until it is ready to publish

Hmm...  Currently they are actually two directory trees:

http://www.openoffice.org/zh/new/zh_tw/
http://www.openoffice.org/zh/new/zh_cn/

So I would prefer to strip the /zh/news/ parts, and keep them as two
equal directory trees.  Maybe keep the /zh/index.html, which redirects
people to the new location according to their Accept-Language header,
and provide choices if both zh-tw and zh-cn do not appear in user's
Accept-Language header.

I think the issue is not to separate zh-tw from zh, but to separate
existing zh-tw and zh-cn.  This is different from pt and pt-br.

 4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
 subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw

As they are merely redirection, I do not think it is necessary to
create new virtual hosts only for redirection.

 5. Maybe also ask Infra to redirect requests from the old site to the new site

Good idea. ^_*'  Thank you.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
Finally!  Congratulations and thanks to all! ^_*'
I shall publish this tomorrow morning, to get the maximum effect.

P.S. It's really a big change since the draft. ^^;

On 2012/05/09 00:36, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
 Hi.
 
 2012/5/8 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks Albino!
 
 Very happy in announce!
 
 I was waiting for oficial announcement.
 
 Best,
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
Finally!  Congratulations and thanks to all! ^_*'  I shall publish
this tomorrow morning, to get the maximum effect.

On 2012/05/09 00:36, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
 Hi.
 
 2012/5/8 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks Albino!
 
 Very happy in announce!
 
 I was waiting for oficial announcement.
 
 Best,
 Albino

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Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4

2012-05-08 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+Social+Promotion+Kit

 I've started the above page to collect stories and blog posts about
 the AOO 3.4 release, along with other information that can be used by
 the community to help promote this new release.

 I've added some stuff there already.  Please help me with more
 content.  If you notice press coverage or other useful information,
 please update the wiki page.  I'm especially short of international
 coverage.


It has been covered at the SourceForge and at FeatherCast:

https://sourceforge.net/blog/announcing-apache-open-office-34/
http://feathercast.apache.org/?p=165

(DE) Apache OpenOffice 3.4: neuer Name, neues Glück?
http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/apache-openoffice-3-4-neuer-name-neues-glueck/

Finally I also wrote a blog entry at my commercial open source blog
announcing the new release:
http://robertogaloppini.net/2012/05/08/apache-openofficeorg-34-download-it-now/


Roberto




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Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread eric b


Le 8 mai 12 à 20:08, Ochirov Nikolay a écrit :


Hi,
that's part of gdb session:
...
Continuing.
#0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0xbfc28244)   at /home/user/ooo/ 
main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1670
#1  0x018b410d in ImplSVMain() ()   from /opt/openoffice.org3/ 
program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
#2  0x018b42a4 in SVMain() ()   from /opt/openoffice.org3/ 
program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
#3  0x0027199c in soffice_main () from /opt/openoffice.org3/ 
program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so

#4  0x08048d14 in main ()

there are no symbols for module vcl,  although i have rebuil /main/ 
vcl so:

cd ooo/main/vcl
make -sr DEBUG=yes
what am i doing wrong ?




in vcl, do :

mv unxlng*.pro  unxlng*.pro_back

build debug=t


= in  the new unxlng*.pro/lib, there will be some new libs,  
including symbols. Replace the stripped one you got in your set with  
these new libs.


Quit OpenOffice and run it again using gdb, and then you should be  
able to hit some breakpoints in vcl code.



FYI, I wrote this page some times ago : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/ 
index.php/ClassRooms/gdbBasics




Regards,
Eric


sincerely,
Nikolay

2012/5/8 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org


Hi Nikolay,

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:47:37PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:

Thank you, Andre, I notice that.
I rebuilt desktop module but still nothing happened.
I will try again)


There might be some missing step, please copy the steps you are
following, how and where are you copying the libraries with debugging
symbols, etc.



2012/5/8 Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de


Hm,

There was small typo in one of the build command line.  It  
should be


   cd trunk/main/desktop
   build debug=true dbglevel=3
   ^


ups, my mistake!
Fixing this, and following the steps posted in the other mails should
work out of the box.


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La Plata, Argentina



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Re: OOO 3.4 for Solaris

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
Forwarding to Ron, since I don't think he is subscribed to the list.

-Rob

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Nicolas Christener
nicolas.christe...@adfinis-sygroup.ch wrote:
 Hi Ron, et al

 On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:17 +, ron.daw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I exchanged some email with Rob Weir regarding an OpenOffice 3.4 port
 for Solaris (SPARC and x86) and he suggested that I offer my services
 in helping to test a port for Solaris.  I'd be happy to do that
 whenever a port is ready for testing.

 We already have an older (2012-03-28, r1304871) OpenSolaris/SPARC build
 ready: http://adfinis-sygroup.ch/aoo-solaris-sparc

 A new build of 3.4 is currently in progress (building right now) - we'll
 post to the list as soon as this build is available.

 We are aware of two specific bugs which we try to fix within the next
 few days (based on the 3.4 branch):
 1.) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119263
 2.) search (Ctrl+F) in writer seems broken (will fill issue later)

 Any help in testing/fixing would be welcome :)

 Don't hesitate to contact me, if you have any questions.

 kind regards
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Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ochirov Nikolay
Thank you for help, Ariel!
Your hint is very usefull! I didn't clean, yes)
And one more question if i may:
Which module should be rebuilt in order to get the debugging symbols for
bootstrap.uno.so?
sincerely,
Nikolay.

2012/5/8 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org

 Hi Nikolay,

 On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:08:37PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
  Hi,
  that's part of gdb session:
  ...
  Continuing.
  #0  desktop::Desktop::Main (this=0xbfc28244)
  at /home/user/ooo/main/desktop/source/app/app.cxx:1670
  #1  0x018b410d in ImplSVMain() ()
 from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
  #2  0x018b42a4 in SVMain() ()
 from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so
  #3  0x0027199c in soffice_main ()
  from /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so
  #4  0x08048d14 in main ()
 
  there are no symbols for module vcl,  although i have rebuil /main/vcl
 so:
  cd ooo/main/vcl

 did you clean first?

 cd trunk/main/vcl
 make -sr clean

  make -sr DEBUG=yes
  what am i doing wrong ?

 and then copy the libraries from the solver to the office installation.


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina



Regaining access to the Norwegian projects on Pootle?

2012-05-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
Hi.

Before the original server was taken down I managed both the Norwegian
Bokmål and Norwegian Nynorsk projects on
http://pootle.services.openoffice.org/. However, I no longer have an
account, meaning there's no way to gain access to continue the work at this
point.
The username was «olorin» at that point, and the credentials is still saved
locally at my computer, so if it's possible to restore these on the server
I'll be grateful.


Regards,

Olav Dahlum


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Donald Harbison
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:35 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:

 Finally!  Congratulations and thanks to all! ^_*'
 I shall publish this tomorrow morning, to get the maximum effect.


Thank you very much! Please let us know how the news is received.


 P.S. It's really a big change since the draft. ^^;

 On 2012/05/09 00:36, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
  Hi.
 
  2012/5/8 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com
 
  Thanks Albino!
 
  Very happy in announce!
 
  I was waiting for oficial announcement.
 
  Best,
  Albino

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk



On 05/07/2012 04:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.org  wrote:


Hi Albino,

On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:52:50PM -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

Hi.

How is the progress of the vote ? [0]

I see no change yet. Waiting an result positive. :-)

0 - issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532


The Spanish proposal only got one +1 ;)
http://markmail.org/message/gxcn6ksi3cz26rjb


And that is perfectly OK.  Lazy consensus is about seeing if anyone
has objections.  If they don't then there is no need to say +1.
Silence is consent.

Sometimes I think we overuse +1 to mean I have no objections.  IMHO,
+1 should mean more like I strongly support this and am willing to
help.


You simply have to wait the 72 hrs :)
Then update the JIRA issue with the link to the proposal thread and the
name of the moderators.



And then please update this page, once the list is created:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html

-Rob


yes...





Regards
--
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La Plata, Argentina


--

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


Re: automatically updating the NL mailing list page?

2012-05-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 As we gain more approvals for native language mailing lists, I'm wondering
 if there is any way for us -- through collecting information elsewhere
 somehow? -- to automatically update the NL mailing list page:

 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html

 so we wouldn't have as much manual record keeping.


It seems like there is a small set of facts:

- language name (in English)
- language name  (in native language)
- list name
- list type (user, dev or general)
- moderators

If this were encoded in XML you could use XSLT to generate the webpage,

-Rob

 I'm just throwing this out in case anyone has any insights...

 If not, I will try to get on #asinfra soon and ask about this.

 --
 
 MzK

 Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out.
                            -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


Re: Troll warning

2012-05-08 Thread Simon Phipps

On 8 May 2012, at 21:18,  wrote:

 Just another warning to not feed the trolls. Now that AOOo 3.4
 has been announced, we are starting to see some really untoward
 behavior by some of the more vocal LO people.
 
 Just let them go... the world will see that it's those people
 who are fighting against cooperation between LO and AOOo and,
 hopefully, wiser and saner minds will prevail.

Do you have specifics, Jim? I've not seen any, just messages of 
congratulations[1]. If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF Membership 
Committee takes a look.

I'm sure you're already aware, but there's is a problem in the other 
direction[2] that I'm sure you'll want to act on.


Cheers,

S.


[1] https://plus.google.com/u/0/101728170107556489506/posts/Er1bhNvC1jB and 
ripples
[2] 
http://erack.org/blog/archives/19-Filhos-Infographic-of-Debian-with-license-exception-does-not-allow-use-of-TDF-or-LibreOffice.html

Re: Regaining access to the Norwegian projects on Pootle?

2012-05-08 Thread Juergen Schmidt
On Tuesday, 8. May 2012 at 21:19, Olav Dahlum wrote:
 Hi.
  
 Before the original server was taken down I managed both the Norwegian
 Bokmål and Norwegian Nynorsk projects on
 http://pootle.services.openoffice.org/. However, I no longer have an
 account, meaning there's no way to gain access to continue the work at this
 point.
 The username was «olorin» at that point, and the credentials is still saved
 locally at my computer, so if it's possible to restore these on the server
 I'll be grateful.
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Olav Dahlum  
Hi Olav,  

welcome back at OpenOffice. The setup of the new pootle server took longer as 
expected and we had to cover some lost knowledge. The old accounts are not 
longer working.  
But we support all volunteers to join the translation efforts ...
Are you able to work with po files directly? If yes I can send you the po files 
via email and you can work on it.
When you have finished the update you can send the po files back to me and I 
will integrate them on pootle to reflect the current status and will integrate 
them as well as in the build to include them in the next update release.
Everything else will come then automatically. If you are interested to help 
with translations long term you should send an iCLA back to Apache to guarantee 
that the work you are doing is your own. I will send you further details...
But again welcome back at OpenOffice and we appreciate your Interest and we are 
looking forward to support you.

Juergen



Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-08 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 8 mai 12 à 13:12, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :


Hi,

That's a very good idea. As you probably read in the issue, I took  
over the task, and I'll use this wiki page to report any progress  
and step done.
The idea is, as discussed with Oliver and Armin, to reuse some  
Draw features in Writer, like (image rotation). There is a lot to  
do and any help is welcome.


Armin's and my idea is mainly removing the Writer implementation  
for images/pictures, introduce all its features missing in the  
Drawing Layer implementation for images/pictures and use the  
Drawing Layer implementation for images/pictures in Writer. Our  
idea is quite old, but we never got the resources to work on it.

Unfortunately, all the work we had done in preparation is lost.



Do you really have no direction to point to us ? e.g. some class  
name, or something like where in the code or whatever else who could  
help ?



This lost work mainly covers something like you Regina had done. It  
summarized all the features of the Writer implementation which are  
currently not available in the Drawing Layer implementation. It  
also contained some planning of the corresponding implementation.  
But, it is lost and needs to be done again.




I'm not Regina, but my question is still valid : if I had some taks  
list, or some pointers in the code, it could reduce the time to  
search, and reinvent the wheel.


Could you propose us some fast tasks list, or anything like a  
description  ... or ...  ?



Thanks in advance,
Eric

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Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-08 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Eric,

eric b schrieb:

Hi,


[..]

I'm not Regina, but my question is still valid : if I had some taks
list, or some pointers in the code, it could reduce the time to search,
and reinvent the wheel.

Could you propose us some fast tasks list, or anything like a
description ... or ... ?


I think, first there should be the central code design decision, whether 
to drop Writer pictures.


If yes, a plan for transition is needed.

A first step in that transition might be, to allow the user to insert a 
picture as Draw-picture from file into Writer, so that the indirect way 
over Draw is no longer needed. That can be done with a new dialog for 
example.


A next step might be to implement hyperlinks for drawing objects. That 
is a missing feature in Draw too.


Kind regards
Regina







Re: automatically updating the NL mailing list page?

2012-05-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  As we gain more approvals for native language mailing lists, I'm
 wondering
  if there is any way for us -- through collecting information elsewhere
  somehow? -- to automatically update the NL mailing list page:
 
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html
 
  so we wouldn't have as much manual record keeping.
 

 It seems like there is a small set of facts:

 - language name (in English)
 - language name  (in native language)
 - list name
 - list type (user, dev or general)
 - moderators

 If this were encoded in XML you could use XSLT to generate the webpage,


yes...I just don't where to get the information...I will be working on
this...along with some other similar items...








 -Rob

  I'm just throwing this out in case anyone has any insights...
 
  If not, I will try to get on #asinfra soon and ask about this.
 
  --
  
  MzK
 
  Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
   And life has a funny way of helping you out
   Helping you out.
 -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette




-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette


Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Nikolay,

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 11:21:03PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
 Thank you for help, Ariel!
 Your hint is very usefull! I didn't clean, yes)
 And one more question if i may:
 Which module should be rebuilt in order to get the debugging symbols for
 bootstrap.uno.so?

For modules not converted to gbuild, you can search the library in
module/OUT/lib

For example:

]$ cd trunk/main/
]$ find -name bootstrap.uno.so
./solver/340/unxlngx6/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
./stoc/unxlngx6/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/de/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/es/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/en-US/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so


The answer is module stoc.

Modules converted to gbuild don't generate files inside the module
folder (only logs, if you built with --html). I guess that here you can
find the pattern module/Library_LIBNAME.mk

For example, if you want to find vbaswobj.uno.so, strip all prefixes and
suffixes from the library name (lib, uno, so) and search for

Library_vbaswobj.mk

]$ find -name Library_vbaswobj.mk
./sw/Library_vbaswobj.mk


It is built in sw.

Hope this helps :)


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Regaining access to the Norwegian projects on Pootle?

2012-05-08 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jürgen,

Olav is not subscribed to the list, I'm Ccing him now, so he gets your
answer.

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:46:51PM +0200, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
 On Tuesday, 8. May 2012 at 21:19, Olav Dahlum wrote:
  Hi.
   
  Before the original server was taken down I managed both the
  Norwegian Bokmål and Norwegian Nynorsk projects on
  http://pootle.services.openoffice.org/. However, I no longer have an
  account, meaning there's no way to gain access to continue the work
  at this point.  The username was «olorin» at that point, and the
  credentials is still saved locally at my computer, so if it's
  possible to restore these on the server I'll be grateful.
   
   
  Regards,
   
  Olav Dahlum  
 Hi Olav,  
 
 welcome back at OpenOffice. The setup of the new pootle server took
 longer as expected and we had to cover some lost knowledge. The old
 accounts are not longer working.  But we support all volunteers to
 join the translation efforts ...  Are you able to work with po files
 directly? If yes I can send you the po files via email and you can
 work on it.  When you have finished the update you can send the po
 files back to me and I will integrate them on pootle to reflect the
 current status and will integrate them as well as in the build to
 include them in the next update release.  Everything else will come
 then automatically. If you are interested to help with translations
 long term you should send an iCLA back to Apache to guarantee that the
 work you are doing is your own. I will send you further details...
 But again welcome back at OpenOffice and we appreciate your Interest
 and we are looking forward to support you.
 
 Juergen
 

-- 
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La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Troll warning

2012-05-08 Thread Jim Jagielski

On May 8, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:

 
 On 8 May 2012, at 21:18,  wrote:
 
 Just another warning to not feed the trolls. Now that AOOo 3.4
 has been announced, we are starting to see some really untoward
 behavior by some of the more vocal LO people.
 
 Just let them go... the world will see that it's those people
 who are fighting against cooperation between LO and AOOo and,
 hopefully, wiser and saner minds will prevail.
 
 Do you have specifics, Jim? I've not seen any, just messages of 
 congratulations[1]. If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF Membership 
 Committee takes a look.

Yes, I do. But I'd prefer to not share them. All one needs to
do is simply spend a minute on GOOG.

 
 I'm sure you're already aware, but there's is a problem in the other 
 direction[2] that I'm sure you'll want to act on.

Yes, I will just searching where he specifically states that he's
saying such with his AOOo hat on and where, exactly, he is being troll-like.
Maybe he is simply trying to prevent his work from being
mis-represented. Or are you objecting to him exercising his
freedom in choosing how his info can be used?

Nah, it couldn't be the latter, since that would imply that
you would be more supportive of a codebase, such as LO, being
under a more permissive license, like maybe the ALv2, so anyone
and everyone could use it as they wish... like how AOOo is, and
LO isn't.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread luizheli
Hi,

I sent the release in Brazilian Portuguese translated by the Brazilian
community (thanks Cláudio and Paulo..)to the local press and we are
following the impact (about 500 journalists):

http://va.mu/VFgT
http://va.mu/VFdW
http://va.mu/VFga

Long Live to the Apache OpenOffice!!

Luiz Oliveira

Em 08-05-2012 18:38, RGB ES escreveu:
 2012/5/8 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net:
 Thanks!

 Published right after the announce on the English forum:
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=53705
 NL admins have been warned too, HU and NL forumshave posted too.
 Have added a comment about the new forum landing page (the custom search
 engine is really nice): http://user.services.openoffice.org

 Hagar


 Le Tue, 8 May 2012 09:05:33 -0400, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org a écrit :


 The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased
 to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on
 Windows, MacOS and Linux.

 Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org

 The full release announcement can be read here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html

 Regards,

 - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC

 The news arrived to the ES forums too... but a bit too early: a forum
 user discovered that 3.4 was available for download this morning so he
 posted about it an our or so before the official announcement! :)

 Anyway, a big thanks to everyone!!

 Regards
 Ricardo



[ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread Marcus (OOo)
When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please can 
you also state that the author is not subscribed to the ML and that 
everybody who wants to replay has to CC'ing the author?


This would be very helpful from the start of the first posting.

Thanks

Marcus


Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread Simon Phipps

On 8 May 2012, at 22:55, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please can you 
 also state that the author is not subscribed to the ML and that everybody who 
 wants to replay has to CC'ing the author?
 
 This would be very helpful from the start of the first posting.

As a moderator, I am not aware of any way to do this; the moderator has no 
means to add a comment to an approved posting. It is possible to tell from the 
message headers that a message has been moderated, so perhaps you could add a 
rule/macro to your mail client to add the originator as a cc on any reply when 
this header is present?

Cheers,

S.




Re: Help updating Apache Commons

2012-05-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hi again;

There are other, more interesting, matters that I want to work on
so I moved this to BZ 119319.

I may come back to it later but perhaps having more eyes looking
for the issue helps ;).

Best regards,

Pedro.

On 05/07/12 22:11, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hello;

I have a patch to update Apache Commons to the latest versions that
don't break the API. I also included a patch for some openjdk issue in
httpclient.

Unfortunately the build system is playing some tricks on me and
it breaks like this:
_
...
Buildfile: 
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/apache-commons/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/commons-httpclient-3.1/build.xml


...
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 20 seconds
touch ../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/so_installed_commons-lang
cp -f 
../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/commons-lang-2.6-src/dist/commons-lang-2.6.jar 
../../unxfbsdx.pro/class

touch ../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/so_predeliver_commons-lang
cp: 
../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/commons-lang-2.6-src/dist/commons-lang-2.6.jar: 
No such file or directory
dmake:  Error code 1, while making 
'../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build/so_predeliver_commons-lang'

_

I am rather tired of looking for the problem so I uploaded the patch
http://people.apache.org/~pfg/patches/patch-apachecommons-update

and the ext_source tarballs:
http://people.apache.org/~pfg/patches/2e482c7567908d334785ce7d69ddfff7-commons-codec-1.6-src.tar.gz 

http://people.apache.org/~pfg/patches/9ed97fce60a9a65852402248a6659492-hunspell-1.3.1.tar.gz 



JIC anyone wants to take give me hand and take a look :).

thanks in advance,

Pedro.




Re: Troll warning

2012-05-08 Thread Tim Williams
Oh dear, this is starting to feel like meta-trolling.  Let's move on,
please

--tim

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012, Simon Phipps wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Jim Jagielski 
 j...@jagunet.comjavascript:;
 wrote:

 
  On May 8, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
 
  
   On 8 May 2012, at 21:18,  wrote:
  
   Just another warning to not feed the trolls. Now that AOOo 3.4
   has been announced, we are starting to see some really untoward
   behavior by some of the more vocal LO people.
  
   Just let them go... the world will see that it's those people
   who are fighting against cooperation between LO and AOOo and,
   hopefully, wiser and saner minds will prevail.
  
   Do you have specifics, Jim? I've not seen any, just messages of
  congratulations[1]. If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF
  Membership Committee takes a look.
 
  Yes, I do. But I'd prefer to not share them. All one needs to
  do is simply spend a minute on GOOG.
 

 I did, and I found nothing that was even as questionable as the stuff you
 dismissed. Perhaps you can send me the searches you are using?

 S.



Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts


Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 05/09/2012 12:07 AM, schrieb Simon Phipps:

 On 8 May 2012, at 22:55, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please
 can you also state that the author is not subscribed to the ML and
 that everybody who wants to replay has to CC'ing the author?

 This would be very helpful from the start of the first posting.

 As a moderator, I am not aware of any way to do this; the moderator
 has no means to add a comment to an approved posting. It is possible
 to tell from the message headers that a message has been moderated,
 so perhaps you could add a rule/macro to your mail client to add the
 originator as a cc on any reply when this header is present?

 I remember that it was possible with the old OOo mailing lists. I
 cannot believe that this is gone even when here a different ML service
 is working. ;-)

 If you can tell me how to do it in Thnderbird I can give it a try.

Indeed, it was and remains possible with the OOo ML, and we used the same 
technology, much to the annoyance of some.

Probably we can find out by asking those who implemented it what they did, but 
if I recall, it was a simple insertion of [moderated] via script to the message 
needing approval.
louis

 Marcus



Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher

On May 8, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

 
 
 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 05/09/2012 12:07 AM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
 
 On 8 May 2012, at 22:55, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
 When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please
 can you also state that the author is not subscribed to the ML and
 that everybody who wants to replay has to CC'ing the author?
 
 This would be very helpful from the start of the first posting.
 
 As a moderator, I am not aware of any way to do this; the moderator
 has no means to add a comment to an approved posting. It is possible
 to tell from the message headers that a message has been moderated,
 so perhaps you could add a rule/macro to your mail client to add the
 originator as a cc on any reply when this header is present?
 
 I remember that it was possible with the old OOo mailing lists. I
 cannot believe that this is gone even when here a different ML service
 is working. ;-)
 
 If you can tell me how to do it in Thnderbird I can give it a try.
 
 Indeed, it was and remains possible with the OOo ML, and we used the same 
 technology, much to the annoyance of some.
 
 Probably we can find out by asking those who implemented it what they did, 
 but if I recall, it was a simple insertion of [moderated] via script to the 
 message needing approval.

If so then it is a simple matter of asking Infrastructure.

Regards,
Dave

 louis
 
 Marcus
 



Re: New Committer: Roberto Galoppini

2012-05-08 Thread Carl Marcum

Welcome Roberto!

Best regards,
Carl

On 05/04/2012 01:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and
PPMC member Roberto Galoppini, galoppini@ apache.org

The list of all current podling committers is at:
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo.

Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software
Foundation:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html.

- the Apache OpenOffice PPMC





Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi.

I send to VOL (Viva O Linux):

va.mu/VFsa

Others links:

va.mu/VFsw
va.mu/VFsy

Best,
Albino


Re: OpenOffice 3.4 for solaris

2012-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On May 8, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Edward wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Was newer  OpenOffice releases for Solaris EOL?  I'm not able to find 
 OpenOffice 3.4 for solaris from the download site?

See this email on the list from earlier today:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201205.mbox/%3C1336500864.32673.8.camel%40oipunk%3E

A build is in process if you want to help test.

Regards,
Dave

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released

2012-05-08 Thread Donald Harbison
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:38 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/5/8 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net:
  Thanks!
 
  Published right after the announce on the English forum:
  http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=53705
  NL admins have been warned too, HU and NL forumshave posted too.
  Have added a comment about the new forum landing page (the custom search
  engine is really nice): http://user.services.openoffice.org
 
  Hagar


Thanks Hagar!


 
 
  Le Tue, 8 May 2012 09:05:33 -0400, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org a
 écrit :
 
 
  The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased
  to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on
  Windows, MacOS and Linux.
 
  Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org
 
  The full release announcement can be read here:
  http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html
 
  Regards,
 
  - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC
 
 

 The news arrived to the ES forums too... but a bit too early: a forum
 user discovered that 3.4 was available for download this morning so he
 posted about it an our or so before the official announcement! :)

 Anyway, a big thanks to everyone!!

 Regards
 Ricardo



Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-05-08 Thread Donald Harbison
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:

 Understanding who does what with our product is very important to defining
 a product direction that resonates with our users.

 The user experience team is about to refresh the UX work products on the
 wiki. An updated set of user roles/personas is our first step. Existing
 data can get us started, then we need to incorporate recent behavior
 shifts, including integrated social and mobile.

 Albino, Louis, Ricardo, would you like to contribute to these user
 definitions.


I would. User whose professional success depends on publishing to academic
and scientific journals is my nomination.



 Regards,
 Kevin



 On May 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi
 
  On Monday, 7 May 2012, RGB ES wrote:
 
  2012/5/8 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com javascript:;:
  Hi,
 
  RGB ES wrote:
  2012/5/5 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com javascript:;:
  Hi.
 
  We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research, created
  polls, and others.
 
  We need to get statistics AOO.
 
  Best,
  Albino
 
  Before that, we need to define who our end users are. We need a set of
  ideal users with clear needs: students who do their homework,
  independent writers that use on-line publishing systems, small
  companies that need to create an invoice or maintain a database of
  supplies...
 
  I'm curious... are you dismissing the vast numbers who were using OOo?
  Briefly, more than 95 percent of downloads from the mirrors were Windows
  users. But major deployments were almost entirely in the public sector.
  Some of the more obvious were listed here [0], but the page is out of
 date.
 
 
  All those groups have different needs, and the right answer for one
  group could be a problem for the others.
 
  I think that, as was suggested, an effective modus operandi is to work
  with the NL groups. For instance, there might be public sector or
 private
  needs for accessibility features. We here may not have the people to do
  that but we (an extended we at this point) can work with those wanting
 it
  to find the developers
 
 
 
  louis
 
  [0]
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
 
  Regards
  Ricardo
 
  Sorry, but I cannot understand your question. I'm not dismissing
  anything. I just commented that a home user is not the same than a
  professional writer, and that both groups have different needs that
  ask for different solutions. Building usage statistics without
  considering the differences between users can lead to wrong
  conclusions: that's all.
 
  Maybe is for my professional background, but as physicists I know that
  before doing research (and analysing user statistics is research) you
  need a model of what you are looking for: on this case, a set of
  ideal users with a lists of needs and problems. Only then you will
  be able to find solutions.
 
  Regards
  Ricardo
 
  Well, as a historian I quite agree with you. My point was that we already
  have a lot of data, as that URL hints.
  Louis
 
 
  --
  Sent from Gmail Mobile



Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-05-08 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Hi.

I would like to help on this task also.

In fact, I've been fooling around the wiki and there are a bunch of
outdated information and some of them could be recycled, others simply
deleted, some of them could be updated. I was wondering if there is someone
taking care of this issue. Case not, I would like to help on that too.

Regards.


2012/5/8 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com

 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Understanding who does what with our product is very important to
 defining
  a product direction that resonates with our users.
 
  The user experience team is about to refresh the UX work products on the
  wiki. An updated set of user roles/personas is our first step. Existing
  data can get us started, then we need to incorporate recent behavior
  shifts, including integrated social and mobile.
 
  Albino, Louis, Ricardo, would you like to contribute to these user
  definitions.
 

 I would. User whose professional success depends on publishing to academic
 and scientific journals is my nomination.


 
  Regards,
  Kevin
 
 
 
  On May 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi
  
   On Monday, 7 May 2012, RGB ES wrote:
  
   2012/5/8 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com javascript:;:
   Hi,
  
   RGB ES wrote:
   2012/5/5 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com javascript:;:
   Hi.
  
   We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research,
 created
   polls, and others.
  
   We need to get statistics AOO.
  
   Best,
   Albino
  
   Before that, we need to define who our end users are. We need a set
 of
   ideal users with clear needs: students who do their homework,
   independent writers that use on-line publishing systems, small
   companies that need to create an invoice or maintain a database of
   supplies...
  
   I'm curious... are you dismissing the vast numbers who were using
 OOo?
   Briefly, more than 95 percent of downloads from the mirrors were
 Windows
   users. But major deployments were almost entirely in the public
 sector.
   Some of the more obvious were listed here [0], but the page is out of
  date.
  
  
   All those groups have different needs, and the right answer for one
   group could be a problem for the others.
  
   I think that, as was suggested, an effective modus operandi is to
 work
   with the NL groups. For instance, there might be public sector or
  private
   needs for accessibility features. We here may not have the people to
 do
   that but we (an extended we at this point) can work with those wanting
  it
   to find the developers
  
  
  
   louis
  
   [0]
  
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
  
   Regards
   Ricardo
  
   Sorry, but I cannot understand your question. I'm not dismissing
   anything. I just commented that a home user is not the same than a
   professional writer, and that both groups have different needs that
   ask for different solutions. Building usage statistics without
   considering the differences between users can lead to wrong
   conclusions: that's all.
  
   Maybe is for my professional background, but as physicists I know that
   before doing research (and analysing user statistics is research) you
   need a model of what you are looking for: on this case, a set of
   ideal users with a lists of needs and problems. Only then you will
   be able to find solutions.
  
   Regards
   Ricardo
  
   Well, as a historian I quite agree with you. My point was that we
 already
   have a lot of data, as that URL hints.
   Louis
  
  
   --
   Sent from Gmail Mobile
 




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Asking PMC Help to Co-maintain the Official Taiwan Plurk Account

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
Dear all,

I would like to Asking help from PMC members to co-maintain the
official Taiwan Plurk account @apacheootw, in order to prevent us from
unable to access the account if I'm not available:

http://www.plurk.com/apacheootw

Your help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread imacat
On 2012/05/09 09:26, imacat said:
 On 2012/05/09 03:00, Dave Fisher said:
 On May 8, 2012, at 11:34 AM, imacat wrote:
 On 2012/05/08 19:36, Rob Weir said:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 (3) both sites then get brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext which can be 
 customized to Chinese.
 
 Sorry I do not understand this part. ^^;  I added brand.mdtext and
 topnav.mdtext for both directories, but they does not work.  The page
 titles and navigations are not updated even ofter succeeding updates.
 Did I missed anything?
 
 4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
 subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw
As they are merely redirection, I do not think it is necessary to
 create new virtual hosts only for redirection.
 Not a big deal to ask. What will users do? tw.openoffice.org and 
 cn.openoffice.org?
 I think zh-tw.openoffice.org and zh-cn.openoffice.org would be fine.
 ^_*'  Thank you.

Sorry. ^^;  On a second thought, I think tw.openoffice.org and
cn.openoffice.org would be better, in order to attract local community.
 Sorry for the trouble.

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Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Grignon
Don,

Exactly what we need - who doing what. 

At this point there are no wrong answers and a broad inventory of users types 
and goals is how we begin. 

UX is working to clean up the wiki and we create a location to consolidate our 
user roles and libraries in the upcoming days. 

In the interim, perhaps you could capture a few sentences that describes what 
is important to an academic user, and what the user wants to accomplish in AOO. 

Regards,
Kevin

On May 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kevin Grignon 
 kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Understanding who does what with our product is very important to defining
 a product direction that resonates with our users.
 
 The user experience team is about to refresh the UX work products on the
 wiki. An updated set of user roles/personas is our first step. Existing
 data can get us started, then we need to incorporate recent behavior
 shifts, including integrated social and mobile.
 
 Albino, Louis, Ricardo, would you like to contribute to these user
 definitions.
 
 
 I would. User whose professional success depends on publishing to academic
 and scientific journals is my nomination.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Kevin
 
 
 
 On May 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 On Monday, 7 May 2012, RGB ES wrote:
 
 2012/5/8 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com javascript:;:
 Hi,
 
 RGB ES wrote:
 2012/5/5 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com javascript:;:
 Hi.
 
 We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research, created
 polls, and others.
 
 We need to get statistics AOO.
 
 Best,
 Albino
 
 Before that, we need to define who our end users are. We need a set of
 ideal users with clear needs: students who do their homework,
 independent writers that use on-line publishing systems, small
 companies that need to create an invoice or maintain a database of
 supplies...
 
 I'm curious... are you dismissing the vast numbers who were using OOo?
 Briefly, more than 95 percent of downloads from the mirrors were Windows
 users. But major deployments were almost entirely in the public sector.
 Some of the more obvious were listed here [0], but the page is out of
 date.
 
 
 All those groups have different needs, and the right answer for one
 group could be a problem for the others.
 
 I think that, as was suggested, an effective modus operandi is to work
 with the NL groups. For instance, there might be public sector or
 private
 needs for accessibility features. We here may not have the people to do
 that but we (an extended we at this point) can work with those wanting
 it
 to find the developers
 
 
 
 louis
 
 [0]
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
 
 Regards
 Ricardo
 
 Sorry, but I cannot understand your question. I'm not dismissing
 anything. I just commented that a home user is not the same than a
 professional writer, and that both groups have different needs that
 ask for different solutions. Building usage statistics without
 considering the differences between users can lead to wrong
 conclusions: that's all.
 
 Maybe is for my professional background, but as physicists I know that
 before doing research (and analysing user statistics is research) you
 need a model of what you are looking for: on this case, a set of
 ideal users with a lists of needs and problems. Only then you will
 be able to find solutions.
 
 Regards
 Ricardo
 
 Well, as a historian I quite agree with you. My point was that we already
 have a lot of data, as that URL hints.
 Louis
 
 
 --
 Sent from Gmail Mobile
 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher

On May 8, 2012, at 6:26 PM, imacat wrote:

 On 2012/05/09 03:00, Dave Fisher said:
 On May 8, 2012, at 11:34 AM, imacat wrote:
 On 2012/05/08 19:36, Rob Weir said:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 (3) both sites then get brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext which can be 
 customized to Chinese.
 
Sorry I do not understand this part. ^^;  I added brand.mdtext and
 topnav.mdtext for both directories, but they does not work.  The page
 titles and navigations are not updated even ofter succeeding updates.
 Did I missed anything?

Yes. To activate these SSI includes you also need to add a zh-tw directory to 
trunk/templates/ with a copy of ssi.mdtext that points to the topnav and the 
brand.

$ cd ooo-site/trunk/templates

$ mkdir zh-tw

$ cp ssi.mdtext zh-tw/.

$ svn add zh-tw
A zh-tw
A zh-tw/ssi.mdtext

$ vi (or emacs) zh-tw/ssi.mdtext

$ more zh-tw/ssi.mdtext
doctype: /doctype.html
brand:  /zh-tw/brand.html
footer: /footer.html
topnav: /zh-tw/topnav.html
home:   home

$ svn commit -m 'Add branding for zh-tw'
Adding templates/zh-tw
Adding templates/zh-tw/ssi.mdtext
Transmitting file data .
Committed revision 1335884.

Checked and need to trigger a refresh by tweaking something in lib.

$ cd ../lib

$ emacs view.pm

(an innocuous change)

$ svn commit -m 'Trigger site scan to add zh-tw branding'
Sendinglib/view.pm
Transmitting file data .
Committed revision 1335885.

Wait ten minutes for the large staging build.

You should then see your branding and topnav.

Regards,
Dave


 
 4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
 subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw
   As they are merely redirection, I do not think it is necessary to
 create new virtual hosts only for redirection.
 Not a big deal to ask. What will users do? tw.openoffice.org and 
 cn.openoffice.org?
 
I think zh-tw.openoffice.org and zh-cn.openoffice.org would be fine.
 ^_*'  Thank you.
 
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Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Grignon
Paulo,

I have already made a proposal to refresh the UX wiki and could use your help. 

Let's quickly inventory the pages, note the last update date, and categorize 
the content. 

I suspect we will want to harvest relevant content, archive outdated reference 
mayerial and remove irrelevant. These could be the categories. 

Let's create a temporary working page in UX wiki to track this refresh. 

With interest growing in working on our next iteration, let's try and get the 
clean up done as soon as possible so we can create new pages to capture our 
collective ideas for AOO.next. 

Regards,
Kevin



On May 9, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I would like to help on this task also.
 
 In fact, I've been fooling around the wiki and there are a bunch of
 outdated information and some of them could be recycled, others simply
 deleted, some of them could be updated. I was wondering if there is someone
 taking care of this issue. Case not, I would like to help on that too.
 
 Regards.
 
 
 2012/5/8 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com
 
 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Understanding who does what with our product is very important to
 defining
 a product direction that resonates with our users.
 
 The user experience team is about to refresh the UX work products on the
 wiki. An updated set of user roles/personas is our first step. Existing
 data can get us started, then we need to incorporate recent behavior
 shifts, including integrated social and mobile.
 
 Albino, Louis, Ricardo, would you like to contribute to these user
 definitions.
 
 
 I would. User whose professional success depends on publishing to academic
 and scientific journals is my nomination.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Kevin
 
 
 
 On May 8, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 On Monday, 7 May 2012, RGB ES wrote:
 
 2012/5/8 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com javascript:;:
 Hi,
 
 RGB ES wrote:
 2012/5/5 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com javascript:;:
 Hi.
 
 We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research,
 created
 polls, and others.
 
 We need to get statistics AOO.
 
 Best,
 Albino
 
 Before that, we need to define who our end users are. We need a set
 of
 ideal users with clear needs: students who do their homework,
 independent writers that use on-line publishing systems, small
 companies that need to create an invoice or maintain a database of
 supplies...
 
 I'm curious... are you dismissing the vast numbers who were using
 OOo?
 Briefly, more than 95 percent of downloads from the mirrors were
 Windows
 users. But major deployments were almost entirely in the public
 sector.
 Some of the more obvious were listed here [0], but the page is out of
 date.
 
 
 All those groups have different needs, and the right answer for one
 group could be a problem for the others.
 
 I think that, as was suggested, an effective modus operandi is to
 work
 with the NL groups. For instance, there might be public sector or
 private
 needs for accessibility features. We here may not have the people to
 do
 that but we (an extended we at this point) can work with those wanting
 it
 to find the developers
 
 
 
 louis
 
 [0]
 
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
 
 Regards
 Ricardo
 
 Sorry, but I cannot understand your question. I'm not dismissing
 anything. I just commented that a home user is not the same than a
 professional writer, and that both groups have different needs that
 ask for different solutions. Building usage statistics without
 considering the differences between users can lead to wrong
 conclusions: that's all.
 
 Maybe is for my professional background, but as physicists I know that
 before doing research (and analysing user statistics is research) you
 need a model of what you are looking for: on this case, a set of
 ideal users with a lists of needs and problems. Only then you will
 be able to find solutions.
 
 Regards
 Ricardo
 
 Well, as a historian I quite agree with you. My point was that we
 already
 have a lot of data, as that URL hints.
 Louis
 
 
 --
 Sent from Gmail Mobile
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729
 
 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
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 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

2012-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Way to go iamcat!

Your brand and topnav are now in Traditional Chinese!

On May 8, 2012, at 6:43 PM, imacat wrote:

 On 2012/05/09 09:26, imacat said:
 On 2012/05/09 03:00, Dave Fisher said:
 On May 8, 2012, at 11:34 AM, imacat wrote:
 On 2012/05/08 19:36, Rob Weir said:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 (3) both sites then get brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext which can be 
 customized to Chinese.
 
Sorry I do not understand this part. ^^;  I added brand.mdtext and
 topnav.mdtext for both directories, but they does not work.  The page
 titles and navigations are not updated even ofter succeeding updates.
 Did I missed anything?
 
 4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
 subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw
   As they are merely redirection, I do not think it is necessary to
 create new virtual hosts only for redirection.
 Not a big deal to ask. What will users do? tw.openoffice.org and 
 cn.openoffice.org?
I think zh-tw.openoffice.org and zh-cn.openoffice.org would be fine.
 ^_*'  Thank you.
 
Sorry. ^^;  On a second thought, I think tw.openoffice.org and
 cn.openoffice.org would be better, in order to attract local community.
 Sorry for the trouble.

We'll allow for all reasonable subdomains.

I'll make the request tomorrow, I hope that zh-cn will be ready.

I think that a similar request for pt-br / br makes sense.

Here are the redirections:

(1) tw.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
(2) cn.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/
(3) zh-tw.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
(4) zh-cn.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/
(5) zh.openoffice.org/new/zh_tw/ - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
(6) zh.openoffice.org/new/zh_cn/ - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/

plus

(7) br.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/pt-br/

Anyone have other needed redirections?

Regards,
Dave


 
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Re: Troll warning

2012-05-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF Membership Committee takes a 
 look.

What are LO advocates doing on this list?. Just curious

http://webmink.com/2012/02/19/libreoffice-video/

Where it says OpenOffice's succesor, LibreOffice

Let me get this straight, the forkers destroyed StarOffice, spit
Oracle in the face then invited them for dinner (to join TDF), then
they get upset that Oracle does not comply with their demands, they
nevertheless go ahead with their fork, and when OpenOffice is donated
to Apache and continues having the brand recognition, the mind share
and the majority of downloads on the Windows platform, are we supposed
to  play nice and friendly with people who can't promote their fork
without comparing themselves to Apache OO and some even spread lies
all the time?

ZDNet and IDG pubs have as usual been playing their cards
predictably... suddenly everyone is anti-corporate and corporate
control of a project is evil.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/212578/4_reasons_to_try_libreoffice.html

Oracle's apparently profit-minded actions are part of the motivation
behind The Document Foundation's decision to fork OpenOffice, and they
are also a good reason to choose LibreOffice instead

(if profit bad? hear, hear, someone tell Novell and Meeks!, maybe
Novell can stop payments to Microsoft...)

Glyn Moody writes a story when he decries Apache's statement about
misinformation from the LO camp Leaving aside the rather catty remark
about the unwarranted spread of misinformation, there is a crucially
important point here. 

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/10/libreoffice-openofficeorg-and-open-standard-office-suites/index.htm

And yet, he contributes to misinformation himself, by stating on the
same article that ...because Apache-licensed code requires copyright
assignment from coders, and LibreOffice doesn't.

He was corrected by Shane Curcuru, and had to strikeout the whole paragraph.

Another example:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386963,00.asp
If you're already using OpenOffice.org as an office suite, you owe it
to yourself to switch to LibreOffice. 

This is what Apache has to deal with...

FC
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell


Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-08 Thread sebb
On 9 May 2012 02:01, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2012-05-08 4:32 PM  Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 05/09/2012 12:07 AM, schrieb Simon Phipps:


 On 8 May 2012, at 22:55, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 When you as ML moderator approve a post to a mailing list, please can
 you also state that the author is not subscribed to the ML and that
 everybody who wants to replay has to CC'ing the author?

 This would be very helpful from the start of the first posting.


 As a moderator, I am not aware of any way to do this; the moderator has
 no means to add a comment to an approved posting. It is possible to tell
 from the message headers that a message has been moderated, so perhaps you
 could add a rule/macro to your mail client to add the originator as a cc on
 any reply when this header is present?


 I remember that it was possible with the old OOo mailing lists. I cannot
 believe that this is gone even when here a different ML service is working.
 ;-)

 If you can tell me how to do it in Thnderbird I can give it a try.

 Marcus


 Messages from an unsubscribed poster contain the following header:
 Delivered-To: moderator for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

 You can create a filter on this header with Thunderbird for emails. If you
 follow this list as a newsgroup using, as I do, you can't create a filter.
 There were many complaints on the old OOo lists about allowing unsubscribed
 posters. Unless they are clearly identified in the Subject line, it is a
 pain in the ass to identify them. Nothing was ever done to rectify the
 problem.

Possible solutions:
- don't allow posts unless subscribed (e.g. reject the post with a
link to the subscription page)
- allow postings by unsubscribed users, but let them follow the
replies via one of the archive services.

It's a lot of work trying to ensure that unsubscribed posters are
copied - much more work than the one-time effort of subscribing.

 --
 _

 Larry I. Gusaas
 Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
 Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
 An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
 theirs. - Edgard Varese




[PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-08 Thread Michael Acevedo
Hi,

I have decided to move forward and give you an early preview of how I think
we should move for the logo of Apache OpenOffice 4 which I think is the
general consensus of the next major release of our project pending Apache
approval. The logos I am proposing are basically the same but there are a
few modifications to the current logo. Below is a description:

AOO Next Logo Changes:

   - The AOO Next logo has a smaller spacing between the letters and
   changes the word Apache to APACHE in caps (idea taken from Kevin
   Gringon's proposal in the Wiki).
   - The color of the APACHE word is now gray (idea taken from Kevin
   Gringon's Proposal in the Wiki).
   - Integration of the AOO initials (for one of the logo proposals).
   - Retirement of the Orb logo and substituting it with a refined concept
   of the previous OOo logo prior verson 3.2.1. I did this new icon in a
   conservative manner and I think it will fit best the next release of AOO as
   it will match with the post AOO 3.4 Application (Writer, Impress, Calc,
   etc.) icons. The new logo makes a nod to the post-PC era when it comes to
   how an application icon now looks in our devices.
   - Keep some commonality with the current Orb Centric logo by keeping the
   name of the suite with the current font that is being used for our site's
   logo.

Without further waiting, I present to you my logo proposal for AOO 4.
Please follow this link:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13resid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13!1631parid=root

Hope you like it and suggestions are welcomed. I would like to credit Kevin
Gringon for the changes in terms of font spacing in the word OpenOffice
and the APACHE word capitalization suggestions.

-- 
Best,
Michael


Aoo needs more than 1G memory to do a debug build?

2012-05-08 Thread shzh zhao
hi,

when I do a debug build in sc moudle at windows xp platform,
the system just likes to hang on for many minutes,and the used memory is
very large.
how to downgrade the using memory?
here is the snap:


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