[call for review] optimize a comparing operation from 'memcmp' to 'hash compare' to improve xls loading performance.
hi, all I have one fix need for review. Please check the below for details, thanks! https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120575 Root cause: in xls loading procedure, ScPatternAttr::operator== occupies too much time, in this function, two sfxitemset are compared by memcmp(...), this is a time consuming operation. Resolution: Instead of memcmp(...), two sfxitemset can be compared 'quickly' by the hashkey only. And a function SfxItemSet::QuickCompare( SfxItemSet rCmp) instead of EqualPatternSets(...). Test result: In ScPatternAttr::operator==, SfxItemSet::QuickCompare( SfxItemSet rCmp) will be called 3141717 times, including 3114837 times only comparing hash key and directly return, memcmp(...). will be called 26880 times(sample file).
[QA][Call-For-Review] Bug 120645 Shape Line and Rotation in Presentation
Hi,all, I wrote some test cases cover: --Shape Remove --Shape Line Style and Color --Shape Position and Size --Shape Rotation https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120645 pls help to review. Thank you in advance. -- Best Wishes, LiFeng Wang
[Call-for-Review] Bug 119524 (The value of the delay option can not be kept if save the presentation to a .ppt doc)
Hi all, The fix for bug 120696 is ready. Here is the link: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120696 Could you please to review it? -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
[QA][CallForReivew]A test script test create, load and save Title field
Hi All, I created a test script test create, load and save title field, would you please help review? The patch could be get from here https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120698 Regards. DongJunZong
Re: [INFO] Rat scan is now included in build process.
On 23.08.2012 18:04, Andre Fischer wrote: On 23.08.2012 18:02, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/23/12 5:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I wanted to let you know that I have included the rat scan in our build process. Just add --with-rat-scan to your configure call and build the office. Then look in ext_libraries/ratscan/platform/misc/aoo-3.5-rat-scan-output.html for the report. More details in the issue comments [1] and soon in a Wiki page. Note that at the moment this works only on Linux without errors. On both Windows and Mac there are problems with the XSLT transformation that turns the intermediate XML data in the HTML report. This is a general problem. -Andre [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120637 This file does not have any license header: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/ext_libraries/ratscan/scan/rat-output-to-html.xsl?view=markup well I assume that was an intended sefl-test ;-) Absolutely, ahem :-) I will fix this tomorrow. I have got to go now. Done. -Andre
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on which is installed yesterday's release of AOO 3.4.1 using AVG Free edition 2012.0.2197 (this morning's update) at the most detailed settings and it has received a clean bill of health. The question that might arise in connection with the original post is that of the filename/download site; if it is from a legitimate (i.e. Apache controlled site) there should be no worries. It was in the past not unusual for new releases of OOo to give false positives on many virus scanners - the hooks for online updating registered sometimes as poentialy unwanted programs/possible trojans. As another poster (Dan?) pointed out, it is possible to check the Md5Sums of the downloaded file against the MD5Sum list on the Apache site, to be certain that it is exactly the file prepared and released by Apache. If these sums check out then all should be well. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
[QA][Call for review] SC SVT case 1 on a new ods document
Hi: I wrote a SC SVT case, the step is: 1. Create a new ods file 2. insert slide and input some data, sort 3. insert slide and input some data, do standard filter 4. insert slide and set data validate rules and input some validate and invalidate data 5. insert pictures and chart 6 save and close 7. loop 1~6 and check memory The patch is at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120700https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120700 Please help to view, thanks!
[QA CALLFORREVIEW] [testuno] Resize/hide/show row and column in spreadsheet.
Hi, all One patch for UNO automation test script for spreadsheet has been submitted with *Bug 120701 * https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120701https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120689 . This patch including: Resize/hide/show row and column in spreadsheet. save it as ods/xls and verify the results. please help on reivew it. thank you. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120701 Thanks, Bin Guo
Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases
On 8/23/12 11:37 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/23/2012 01:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2012 10:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com: Way back in late April, Juergen proposed a new directory structure for release packs than what we have now which is essentially: /stable/VERSION/en-US items /localized/lang abbreviation/VERSION/lang items there are some other areas in SF as well and I don't know if they're still being used Could we restart the discussion, or just again send the proposed structure, on what the ideal structure would look like so we could get to work on modifying the download scripts? Thanks. -- MzK As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it. -- Buddy Hackett Warning: Layman comment following. Even if en-US is the base for all the other builds, I see no need to completely separate it from the rest. IMO, a structure like /stable/VERSION/lang abbreviation/etcetera werelang abbreviation includes en-US at the same level of all the other localizations would be perfectly clear to anyone. +1 This weird split complicates scripting operations on the tree. We could probably also eliminate the base of /stable. We don't release unstable code, do we? correct, and I think the schema that RGB currently proposes without the /stable is what Juergen basically proposed if memory serves. (I'm too lazy to go look for it. :/ ) I don't know if it's wanted by us or allowed by ASF: We could release Beta versions or RCs in a different dir than stable/. Then it would make sense to keep it. Otherwise you are right. Right now, since we are not releasing betas and I don't see this happening in the future given the ASF definition of release, we have no need for a /stable vs anything else. more or less but with going back to my proposal I think Rob made a good proposal with some minimal but useful differentiation. The only thing I woudl change is src = source because we already have it ;-) /ooo/VERSION/source /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK/ At a level higher we have another split, between source and binaries, where binaries are in /files and source is in VERSION. So: /ooo/3.4.1/source here /ooo/files/stable/de/3.4.1/binaries here This might be harmonized as: /ooo/VERSION/src /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK yes. Hopefully Juergen will weigh in soonish. not really necessary, I think we are more or less all on the same track ;-) Juergen (who is moving slowly over in vacation mode) Or just /ooo/VERSION/ to get the most flat structure. Maybe /ooo/VERSION/src/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/ if it's needed to separate source and binary files. Marcus
CMS diff: AOO 3.4.1发行说明
Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/development%2Freleases%2F3.4.1.html Index: trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html === --- trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (revision 1376868) +++ trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (working copy) @@ -1,151 +1,134 @@ html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 -titleAOO 3.4.1 Release Notes/title +titleAOO 3.4.1发行说明/title /head body -h1AOO 3.4.1 (build 1372282) Release Notes/h1 +h1AOO3.4.1(build 1372282)发行说明/h1 p - emTranslations: + em其他翻译: a href=https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-341-notas-de-la-versin.html;Espantilde;ol/a | a href=http://www.openoffice.org/it/stampa/comunicati/aoo341-rn.html;Italiano/a /em /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-GeneralRemarks/aGeneral Remarks/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-概述/a概述/h2 -pThe Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 is a maintenance release, intended to fix critical issues and improve -the overall quality of the application./p +pApache OpenOffice 3.4.1是一个维护版本，主要是用于修复几个关键性的问题和提高软件的整体质量。/p -pGeneral areas of improvement include:nbsp; additional language support, -bug fixes, performance improvements and Windows 8 compatibility enhancements.nbsp; -Further details on each of these areas are below./p +p主要的改善包括以下几个方面:nbsp;额外的语言支持、 +bug的修复、性能的改进和Windows 8 兼容性的增强。每个方面的细节将在下面进行描述。/p -pFor a more comprehensive overview of the changes from the 3.3.X OpenOffice.org releases and earlier; -please see the Release Notes for a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a +p如果你需要一个更加全面的自从OpenOffice 3.3.X或者更早的版本所作出的修改的总结，请参照3.4.0版本的发行说明a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a。 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-AdditionalLanguageSupport/aAdditional Language Support/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-额外的语言支持/a额外的语言支持/h2 -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-NewtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aNew translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括:/h4 ul - liFinnish/li - liBritish English/li - liKhmer/li - liSlovak/li - liSlovenian/li + li芬兰语/li + li英式英语/li + li高棉语/li + li斯洛伐克语/li + li斯洛文尼亚语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-UpdatedtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aUpdated translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括:/h4 ul - liDutch/li - liSpanish/li - liItalian/li - liHungarian/li + li菏兰语/li + li西班牙语/li + li意大利语/li + li匈牙利语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-Foracompletelistofavailablelanguagesandlanguagepackssee%3A/a -For a complete list of available languages and language packs see: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看%3A/a +如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a。/h4 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-PlatformSupport/aPlatforms Supported/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-平台支持/a平台支持/h2 - pThe following platforms continue to be available as official releases from Apache OpenOffice: - Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit). - /p + p以下的几个平台将继续的成为Apache OpenOffice 的正式版本的发布平台：Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit)。 /p - pAdditionally, a number of community members are working on ports for Solaris, FreeBSD, and OS/2 and live/portable versions. - You can learn more from our Ports and Distributions page at: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a. + p此外，也有相当多的社区成员在Solaris、FreeBSD、OS/2和 live/portable 的各个版本下工作。 + 你可以在我们的端口和分布页面学到更多的东西: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a。 /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-BugFixes/aBug Fixes/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-漏洞修复/a漏洞修复/h2 -pAs of 2012/08/16, there were 69 verified issues that have been resolved./p +p截止到2012年8月16日，已经有69个已经通过验证的问题得到解决。/p -pThis list can be found at: a href=http://s.apache.org/Huv;http://s.apache.org/Huv/a/p +p详细的列表参见: a href=http://s.apache.org/Huv;http://s.apache.org/Huv/a。/p -pYou will need an OpenOffice Bugzilla login to view it./p +p你需要一个OpenOffice Bugzilla的登录账号才能去查看这些问题。/p -p(An a href=https://issues.apache.org/ooo/;OpenOffice Bugzilla/a login will enable you to
Re: Something wrong in download page for Linux users
Hi, I use Ubuntu 64bit, but the problem is that the /download/ page still offers RPM package, not DEB Regards, Michal Hriň Odoslané z iPhonu Dňa 23.8.2012, o 18:31, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org napísal: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:18:31PM +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Please check again. I have made a change to the download script after I had investigated it together with Andre and Jürgen. Best regards, Oliver. It works fine on http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Thx for the test. I have already published the changed script. Would be great, if you could also check http://www.openoffice.org/download/ Thx in advance, Oliver. It's working fine, too. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
On 23 August 2012 19:49, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not comfortable having a PMC Chair election and nomination on ooo-dev. It appears the IPMC was able to do this for their own Chair. I also agree that we should form the PMC membership first. See my response to Dennis on this. There is no PMC here, only a PPMC. Or maybe think of it this way; in the end we're deciding on a graduation resolution that has three main items: a scope, a PMC and a PMC Chair. This is a single resolution. Whose votes are binding on whether to send this resolution to the IPMC? The proposed PMC you think? That would be circular. Five of us could then just nominate ourselves as the PMC, vote a Chair and send that along. IMHO, we should base this in the ASF governance, which is PPMC appointed by IPMC, created by the ASF Board, which are elected by the ASF Members. Creating a new voting body out of nothing does not seem ideal. Now I understand the confusion. The PPMC is responsible for all three of the main items. Then the IPMC is responsible. Then the Board. The Chair coming from the PMC is not the same as the PMC electing the Chair. Exactly. Don't get too caught up in whose votes are binding and whose are not. Votes are for conflict resolution not decision making. The PPMC, even though it doesn't formally have binding votes on anything is still the body that is expected to make the decisions. The formality (which is a requirement of law) will, almost without exception, follow the wishes of the PPMC in matters such as this. Really, the order of creating the PPMC, PMC roster and the resolution isn't really important. What is important is that the community unites around the final resolution. Ross
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
On 23 August 2012 23:55, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: If I recollect correctly, Ross volunteered to work the roster issue on behalf of the PPMC and as one of more active mentors. He's pretty busy at the moment, but I think we can put this taskforward for his attention and action. I did offer and I have done some preliminary work on this. I'm afraid I am much less advanced on the task than I would like. It is still on my todo list. I'd hate to think it delays nominations for PMC Chair (in fact that would be good information for me on cross-checking the PMC list). Ross On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: @sebb Yes, what you say about the position of the Chair (and also how the chair accomplishes that as an officer of the ASF) was what I had in mind. With regard to the PPMC, here is a roster of the *current* PPMC (subject to corrections anyone notices): Kai Ahrens : kahrens PPMC Florent André : florent PPMC Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC Mathias Bauer : mbauer PPMC Cyril Beaussier : bidouille PPMC Stephan Bergmann : sb PPMC Raphael Bircher : rbircher PPMC Simon Brouwer : simonbr PPMC Arthur Buijs : artietee PPMC Jin Hua Chen : chenjinh PPMC Jian Hong Cheng : chengjh PPMC Ariel Constenla-Haile : arielch PPMC Yuri Dario : ydario PPMC Hagar Delest : hagar PPMC Herbert Dürr : hdu PPMC Claudio Filho : filhocf PPMC Andre Fischer : af PPMC David Fisher : wave PPMC Thomas J. Frazier : tj PPMC Roberto Galoppini : galoppini PPMC Pedro Giffuni : pfg PPMC Wolf Halton : wolfhalton PPMC Dennis E. Hamilton : orcmid PPMC Don Harbison : dpharbison PPMC Regina Henschel : regina PPMC Ivo Hinkelmann : ivo PPMC Kazunari Hirano : khirano PPMC Martin Hollmichel : mhollmichel PPMC Jim Jagielski : jim PPMC Drew Jensen : atjensen PPMC Christoph Jopp : cjopp PPMC Damjan Jovanovic : damjan PPMC Peter Junge : pj PPMC Yegor Kozlov : yegor PPMC Marcus Lange : marcus PPMC Graham Lauder : yo PPMC Armin Le Grand : alg PPMC Steve Lee : stevelee PPMC Wang Lei : leiw PPMC Christian Lippka : clippka PPMC Ian Lynch : ingotian PPMC Yong Lin Ma : mayongl PPMC Carl Marcum : cmarcum PPMC David McKay : thegurkha PPMC Ingrid von der Mehden : ingrid PPMC Antón Méixome : meixome PPMC Maho Nakata : maho PPMC Albino Neto : bino28 PPMC Andrea Pescetti : pescetti PPMC Frank Thomas Peters : fpe PPMC Allen Pulsifer : apulsifer PPMC Eike Rathke : erack PPMC Manfred Reiter : fredao PPMC Zoltán Reizinger : r4zoli PPMC RGB.ES : rgb-es PPMC Phillip Rhodes : prhodes PPMC Andrew Rist : arist PPMC Lawrence Rosen : lrosen PPMC Roberto Salomon : salomon PPMC Juan C. Sanz : jucasaca PPMC Kay Schenk : kschenk PPMC Jürgen Schmidt : jsc PPMC Yang Shih-Ching : imacat PPMC Jomar Silva : homembit PPMC Kai Sommerfeld : kso PPMC Louis Suárez-Potts : louis PPMC Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC Rob Weir : robweir PPMC Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to be identified before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken. The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken from the PPMC membership, but dropping any inactive (or unwilling) members. Also, this seems like a very good time to review, for the benefit of all here, what the duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out. http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair The PMC chair is a position of responsibility (to the PMC and Board) rather than authority over the PMC. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next tasks is to identify a PMC Chair. You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair How do we want to do this? A strawman proposal:
Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
On 24 August 2012 00:13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: If I recollect correctly, Ross volunteered to work the roster issue on behalf of the PPMC and as one of more active mentors. He's pretty busy at the moment, but I think we can put this taskforward for his attention and action. We're already doing this, on ooo-private. All PPMC members should be monitoring that list or they will risk missing important threads. Yep. I've been watching that work. Thank you very much for moving it forwards in absence of my own delivery. Ross -Rob On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: @sebb Yes, what you say about the position of the Chair (and also how the chair accomplishes that as an officer of the ASF) was what I had in mind. With regard to the PPMC, here is a roster of the *current* PPMC (subject to corrections anyone notices): Kai Ahrens : kahrens PPMC Florent André : florent PPMC Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC Mathias Bauer : mbauer PPMC Cyril Beaussier : bidouille PPMC Stephan Bergmann : sb PPMC Raphael Bircher : rbircher PPMC Simon Brouwer : simonbr PPMC Arthur Buijs : artietee PPMC Jin Hua Chen : chenjinh PPMC Jian Hong Cheng : chengjh PPMC Ariel Constenla-Haile : arielch PPMC Yuri Dario : ydario PPMC Hagar Delest : hagar PPMC Herbert Dürr : hdu PPMC Claudio Filho : filhocf PPMC Andre Fischer : af PPMC David Fisher : wave PPMC Thomas J. Frazier : tj PPMC Roberto Galoppini : galoppini PPMC Pedro Giffuni : pfg PPMC Wolf Halton : wolfhalton PPMC Dennis E. Hamilton : orcmid PPMC Don Harbison : dpharbison PPMC Regina Henschel : regina PPMC Ivo Hinkelmann : ivo PPMC Kazunari Hirano : khirano PPMC Martin Hollmichel : mhollmichel PPMC Jim Jagielski : jim PPMC Drew Jensen : atjensen PPMC Christoph Jopp : cjopp PPMC Damjan Jovanovic : damjan PPMC Peter Junge : pj PPMC Yegor Kozlov : yegor PPMC Marcus Lange : marcus PPMC Graham Lauder : yo PPMC Armin Le Grand : alg PPMC Steve Lee : stevelee PPMC Wang Lei : leiw PPMC Christian Lippka : clippka PPMC Ian Lynch : ingotian PPMC Yong Lin Ma : mayongl PPMC Carl Marcum : cmarcum PPMC David McKay : thegurkha PPMC Ingrid von der Mehden : ingrid PPMC Antón Méixome : meixome PPMC Maho Nakata : maho PPMC Albino Neto : bino28 PPMC Andrea Pescetti : pescetti PPMC Frank Thomas Peters : fpe PPMC Allen Pulsifer : apulsifer PPMC Eike Rathke : erack PPMC Manfred Reiter : fredao PPMC Zoltán Reizinger : r4zoli PPMC RGB.ES : rgb-es PPMC Phillip Rhodes : prhodes PPMC Andrew Rist : arist PPMC Lawrence Rosen : lrosen PPMC Roberto Salomon : salomon PPMC Juan C. Sanz : jucasaca PPMC Kay Schenk : kschenk PPMC Jürgen Schmidt : jsc PPMC Yang Shih-Ching : imacat PPMC Jomar Silva : homembit PPMC Kai Sommerfeld : kso PPMC Louis Suárez-Potts : louis PPMC Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC Rob Weir : robweir PPMC Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:17 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to be identified before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken. The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken from the PPMC membership, but dropping any inactive (or unwilling) members. Also, this seems like a very good time to review, for the benefit of all here, what the duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out. http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair The PMC chair is a position of responsibility (to the PMC and Board) rather than authority over the PMC. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next tasks is to identify a PMC Chair. You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair How do we want
Re: CMS diff: AOO 3.4.1åè¡è¯´æ
This patch (translation) wants to be applied to main (en-US) page. Will be reverted. Michal Hriň Dňa Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:27 +0200 Anonymous CMS User anonym...@apache.org napísal: Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/development%2Freleases%2F3.4.1.html Index: trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html === --- trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (revision 1376868) +++ trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (working copy) @@ -1,151 +1,134 @@ html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 -titleAOO 3.4.1 Release Notes/title +titleAOO 3.4.1发行说明/title /head body -h1AOO 3.4.1 (build 1372282) Release Notes/h1 +h1AOO3.4.1(build 1372282)发行说明/h1 p - emTranslations: + em其他翻译: a href=https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-341-notas-de-la-versin.html;Espantilde;ol/a | a href=http://www.openoffice.org/it/stampa/comunicati/aoo341-rn.html;Italiano/a /em /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-GeneralRemarks/aGeneral Remarks/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-概述/a概述/h2 -pThe Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 is a maintenance release, intended to fix critical issues and improve -the overall quality of the application./p +pApache OpenOffice 3.4.1是一个维护版本，主要是用于修复几个关键性的问题和提高软件的整体质量。/p -pGeneral areas of improvement include:nbsp; additional language support, -bug fixes, performance improvements and Windows 8 compatibility enhancements.nbsp; -Further details on each of these areas are below./p +p主要的改善包括以下几个方面:nbsp;额外的语言支持、 +bug的修复、性能的改进和Windows 8 兼容性的增强。每个方面的细节将在下面进行描述。/p -pFor a more comprehensive overview of the changes from the 3.3.X OpenOffice.org releases and earlier; -please see the Release Notes for a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a +p如果你需要一个更加全面的自从OpenOffice 3.3.X或者更早的版本所作出的修改的总结，请参照3.4.0版本的发行说明a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a。 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-AdditionalLanguageSupport/aAdditional Language Support/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-额外的语言支持/a额外的语言支持/h2 -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-NewtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aNew translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括:/h4 ul - liFinnish/li - liBritish English/li - liKhmer/li - liSlovak/li - liSlovenian/li + li芬兰语/li + li英式英语/li + li高棉语/li + li斯洛伐克语/li + li斯洛文尼亚语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-UpdatedtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aUpdated translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括:/h4 ul - liDutch/li - liSpanish/li - liItalian/li - liHungarian/li + li菏兰语/li + li西班牙语/li + li意大利语/li + li匈牙利语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-Foracompletelistofavailablelanguagesandlanguagepackssee%3A/a -For a complete list of available languages and language packs see: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看%3A/a +如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a。/h4 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-PlatformSupport/aPlatforms Supported/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-平台支持/a平台支持/h2 - pThe following platforms continue to be available as official releases from Apache OpenOffice: - Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit). - /p + p以下的几个平台将继续的成为Apache OpenOffice 的正式版本的发布平台：Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit)。 /p - pAdditionally, a number of community members are working on ports for Solaris, FreeBSD, and OS/2 and live/portable versions. - You can learn more from our Ports and Distributions page at: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a. + p此外，也有相当多的社区成员在Solaris、FreeBSD、OS/2和 live/portable 的各个版本下工作。 + 你可以在我们的端口和分布页面学到更多的东西: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a。 /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-BugFixes/aBug Fixes/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-漏洞修复/a漏洞修复/h2 -pAs of 2012/08/16, there were 69 verified issues that have been resolved./p +p截止到2012年8月16日，已经有69个已经通过验证的问题得到解决。/p -pThis list can be found at: a href=http://s.apache.org/Huv;http://s.apache.org/Huv/a/p +p详细的列表参见: a href=http://s.apache.org/Huv;http://s.apache.org/Huv/a。/p -pYou will need an OpenOffice Bugzilla login to view it./p
Re: Something wrong in download page for Linux users
On 8/24/12 11:27 AM, Michal Hriň wrote: Hi, I use Ubuntu 64bit, but the problem is that the /download/ page still offers RPM package, not DEB I can't reproduce this on a 64bit Ubuntu system with Firefox. I get a 64bit deb package. Juergen Regards, Michal Hriň Odoslané z iPhonu Dňa 23.8.2012, o 18:31, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org napísal: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:18:31PM +0200, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Please check again. I have made a change to the download script after I had investigated it together with Andre and Jürgen. Best regards, Oliver. It works fine on http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/index.html Thx for the test. I have already published the changed script. Would be great, if you could also check http://www.openoffice.org/download/ Thx in advance, Oliver. It's working fine, too. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on which is installed yesterday's release of AOO 3.4.1 using AVG Free edition 2012.0.2197 (this morning's update) at the most detailed settings and it has received a clean bill of health. The question that might arise in connection with the original post is that of the filename/download site; if it is from a legitimate (i.e. Apache controlled site) there should be no worries. It was in the past not unusual for new releases of OOo to give false positives on many virus scanners - the hooks for online updating registered sometimes as poentialy unwanted programs/possible trojans. As another poster (Dan?) pointed out, it is possible to check the Md5Sums of the downloaded file against the MD5Sum list on the Apache site, to be certain that it is exactly the file prepared and released by Apache. If these sums check out then all should be well. AIUI that's not possible to be *certain* that the file is identical [1]. Hashes are fine for checking that a download has not been corrupted/truncated in transit, because the chance of a hash collision in such a case is vanishingly small. But they are not generally considered sufficiently robust to *prove* that the download is what it appears to be. It is theoretically possible to create two different downloads with the same hash. Obviously if the hash check fails, then there is a problem, but a successful check does not provide 100% proof. Checking the detached signature for the download is much more secure, but is of course a bit harder to do. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#secure-hash-algorithms -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
[QA CALLFORREVIEW] Test cases to check cell font size in Spreadsheet.
Hi, all Test cases of Spreadsheet cell font size for UNO automation test script have been submitted with *Bug 120702*https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120702 Pls help to review it. Thanks. [1]https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120702 Regards, Shan Zhu Regards, Shan Zhu
Re: draft graduation resolution
On 08/20/2012 01:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I put a draft of the graduation resolution onto the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Graduation+Resolution+%28draft%29 snip Regards, -Rob Looks good Rob! Thanks, Carl
Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases
On 24 August 2012 10:08, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/12 11:37 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/23/2012 01:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2012 10:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com: Way back in late April, Juergen proposed a new directory structure for release packs than what we have now which is essentially: /stable/VERSION/en-US items /localized/lang abbreviation/VERSION/lang items there are some other areas in SF as well and I don't know if they're still being used Could we restart the discussion, or just again send the proposed structure, on what the ideal structure would look like so we could get to work on modifying the download scripts? Thanks. -- MzK As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it. -- Buddy Hackett Warning: Layman comment following. Even if en-US is the base for all the other builds, I see no need to completely separate it from the rest. IMO, a structure like /stable/VERSION/lang abbreviation/etcetera werelang abbreviation includes en-US at the same level of all the other localizations would be perfectly clear to anyone. +1 This weird split complicates scripting operations on the tree. We could probably also eliminate the base of /stable. We don't release unstable code, do we? correct, and I think the schema that RGB currently proposes without the /stable is what Juergen basically proposed if memory serves. (I'm too lazy to go look for it. :/ ) I don't know if it's wanted by us or allowed by ASF: We could release Beta versions or RCs in a different dir than stable/. Then it would make sense to keep it. Otherwise you are right. Right now, since we are not releasing betas and I don't see this happening in the future given the ASF definition of release, we have no need for a /stable vs anything else. more or less but with going back to my proposal I think Rob made a good proposal with some minimal but useful differentiation. The only thing I woudl change is src = source because we already have it ;-) /ooo/VERSION/source /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK/ It might be better to use binaries. This is often used by ASF projects. It is plural because there are often multiple builds. It also cannot be confused with bin = wastebin. [In the US they use can == trashcan; the UK use bin == wastebin] Now -src and -bin are fine as part of a file name, but might be misinterpreted as a folder name. For developers, /bin/ has very different connotations (/usr/bin etc), but for end-users, they might be wary of downloading something that comes from what might as well be called: /ooo/VERSION/trash/ or /ooo/VERSION/waste/ Just a thought. At a level higher we have another split, between source and binaries, where binaries are in /files and source is in VERSION. So: /ooo/3.4.1/source here /ooo/files/stable/de/3.4.1/binaries here This might be harmonized as: /ooo/VERSION/src /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK yes. Hopefully Juergen will weigh in soonish. not really necessary, I think we are more or less all on the same track ;-) Juergen (who is moving slowly over in vacation mode) Or just /ooo/VERSION/ to get the most flat structure. Maybe /ooo/VERSION/src/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/ if it's needed to separate source and binary files. Marcus
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:31:05 +0100 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on which is installed yesterday's release of AOO 3.4.1 using AVG Free edition 2012.0.2197 (this morning's update) at the most detailed settings and it has received a clean bill of health. The question that might arise in connection with the original post is that of the filename/download site; if it is from a legitimate (i.e. Apache controlled site) there should be no worries. It was in the past not unusual for new releases of OOo to give false positives on many virus scanners - the hooks for online updating registered sometimes as poentialy unwanted programs/possible trojans. As another poster (Dan?) pointed out, it is possible to check the Md5Sums of the downloaded file against the MD5Sum list on the Apache site, to be certain that it is exactly the file prepared and released by Apache. If these sums check out then all should be well. AIUI that's not possible to be *certain* that the file is identical [1]. Hashes are fine for checking that a download has not been corrupted/truncated in transit, because the chance of a hash collision in such a case is vanishingly small. But they are not generally considered sufficiently robust to *prove* that the download is what it appears to be. It is theoretically possible to create two different downloads with the same hash. Obviously if the hash check fails, then there is a problem, but a successful check does not provide 100% proof. Checking the detached signature for the download is much more secure, but is of course a bit harder to do. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#secure-hash-algorithms -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I'm not doubting your remarks above about the possibility of duplicate hashes, but for most purposes the hash check is probably sufficient. In any event, the timescale involved of some few hours after release would make the possibility of a rogue hash matching file quite remote (I hope!). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On 24 August 2012 11:51, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:31:05 +0100 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on which is installed yesterday's release of AOO 3.4.1 using AVG Free edition 2012.0.2197 (this morning's update) at the most detailed settings and it has received a clean bill of health. The question that might arise in connection with the original post is that of the filename/download site; if it is from a legitimate (i.e. Apache controlled site) there should be no worries. It was in the past not unusual for new releases of OOo to give false positives on many virus scanners - the hooks for online updating registered sometimes as poentialy unwanted programs/possible trojans. As another poster (Dan?) pointed out, it is possible to check the Md5Sums of the downloaded file against the MD5Sum list on the Apache site, to be certain that it is exactly the file prepared and released by Apache. If these sums check out then all should be well. AIUI that's not possible to be *certain* that the file is identical [1]. Hashes are fine for checking that a download has not been corrupted/truncated in transit, because the chance of a hash collision in such a case is vanishingly small. But they are not generally considered sufficiently robust to *prove* that the download is what it appears to be. It is theoretically possible to create two different downloads with the same hash. Obviously if the hash check fails, then there is a problem, but a successful check does not provide 100% proof. Checking the detached signature for the download is much more secure, but is of course a bit harder to do. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#secure-hash-algorithms -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I'm not doubting your remarks above about the possibility of duplicate hashes, but for most purposes the hash check is probably sufficient. Yes. In any event, the timescale involved of some few hours after release would make the possibility of a rogue hash matching file quite remote (I hope!). Actually there will be at least 3-4 days when the files and hashes are available during release votes. But more likely the rogue file would be published later when it would still catch some downloads. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
[Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be amalgamated into improved support for MS Office formats, current and legacy. Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we also register comments against some of the already readily achievable functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which indicate how to do that function? Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?
Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours? No need for fancy graphics - a list would be OK. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Extension downloading problem
On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours? No need for fancy graphics - a list would be OK. First, you need to know that the SF numbers are daily numbers, and based on a UTC day. Since we announced mid-day on the 23rd (UTC) that means that the stats for that day include a large portion of the day when 3.4.1 had not been announced, and when 3.4.1 was not linked to from the website. So I wouldn't read too much into that initial day. We'll know better by looking at next week's numbers. So given those caveats here's what I see, giving a other Thursday's in August as a comparison, since we have a strong day-of-week pattern to our downloads: August 2nd: 113469 August 9th: 107397 August 16th: 109834 And the day where AOO 3.4.1 was announced mid-day: August 23rd: 145146 So a 30% boost, which is rather good. I expect it will be even better when we can look at full-day. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:23 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 11:51, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:31:05 +0100 sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2012 09:20, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:01:42 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Got a warning msg that your product was unsafe, so I deleted the download. Here's the msg. snip I have this morning scanned my Windows XP computer on which is installed yesterday's release of AOO 3.4.1 using AVG Free edition 2012.0.2197 (this morning's update) at the most detailed settings and it has received a clean bill of health. The question that might arise in connection with the original post is that of the filename/download site; if it is from a legitimate (i.e. Apache controlled site) there should be no worries. It was in the past not unusual for new releases of OOo to give false positives on many virus scanners - the hooks for online updating registered sometimes as poentialy unwanted programs/possible trojans. As another poster (Dan?) pointed out, it is possible to check the Md5Sums of the downloaded file against the MD5Sum list on the Apache site, to be certain that it is exactly the file prepared and released by Apache. If these sums check out then all should be well. AIUI that's not possible to be *certain* that the file is identical [1]. Hashes are fine for checking that a download has not been corrupted/truncated in transit, because the chance of a hash collision in such a case is vanishingly small. But they are not generally considered sufficiently robust to *prove* that the download is what it appears to be. It is theoretically possible to create two different downloads with the same hash. Obviously if the hash check fails, then there is a problem, but a successful check does not provide 100% proof. Checking the detached signature for the download is much more secure, but is of course a bit harder to do. [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing#secure-hash-algorithms -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I'm not doubting your remarks above about the possibility of duplicate hashes, but for most purposes the hash check is probably sufficient. Yes. In any event, the timescale involved of some few hours after release would make the possibility of a rogue hash matching file quite remote (I hope!). Actually there will be at least 3-4 days when the files and hashes are available during release votes. But more likely the rogue file would be published later when it would still catch some downloads. Ideally we'd have a way for the user to verify this themselves, without getting into command-line tools. For example, a trusted website with an applet that would verify hash and signature for a local file. Or could this conceivably be doe with Javascript? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost
Re: How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:45:18 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours? No need for fancy graphics - a list would be OK. First, you need to know that the SF numbers are daily numbers, and based on a UTC day. Since we announced mid-day on the 23rd (UTC) that means that the stats for that day include a large portion of the day when 3.4.1 had not been announced, and when 3.4.1 was not linked to from the website. So I wouldn't read too much into that initial day. We'll know better by looking at next week's numbers. So given those caveats here's what I see, giving a other Thursday's in August as a comparison, since we have a strong day-of-week pattern to our downloads: August 2nd: 113469 August 9th: 107397 August 16th: 109834 And the day where AOO 3.4.1 was announced mid-day: August 23rd: 145146 So a 30% boost, which is rather good. I expect it will be even better when we can look at full-day. Thanks. This is most useful - we might expect a similar increase in Forum traffic, although perhaps timeshifted. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be amalgamated into improved support for MS Office formats, current and legacy. Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we also register comments against some of the already readily achievable functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which indicate how to do that function? Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected: 305 people have submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes. IMHO, this is wonderful. In some sense the voting process itself helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas and voting, which I hope we all are. I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas. Maybe in the end we could promote a top 10 list of ideas, in a blog post, and collect also commentary from project members related to these top 10 ideas. Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking into. We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask users to rate them. That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had more time to be voted on. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: I use AVG 2012.0.2180 Free Edition I installed AOO 3.4.1 on one of my Windows machines today and AVG didn't complain. I'll check in detail tomorrow when the machine is awake - near midnight here and I'm closing down. It is often the case that new OpenOffice releases trigger false positives from virus scanners. -- I put AVG free version on an XP VM, updated virus signatures, installed AOO 3.4.1 Windows en-US from the website and did a full scan. No issues reported. So if Maurice was indeed getting an AV hit, that suggests he might actually have something, either preexisting on his machine, or from downloading AOO from another website. If it were really a false positive, wouldn't we be seeing it as well? -Rob Rory O'Farrell ofarrwrk@iol.
Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be amalgamated into improved support for MS Office formats, current and legacy. Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we also register comments against some of the already readily achievable functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which indicate how to do that function? Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected: 305 people have submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes. IMHO, this is wonderful. In some sense the voting process itself helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas and voting, which I hope we all are. Not all of us have the time. I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas. Maybe in the end we could promote a top 10 list of ideas, in a blog post, and collect also commentary from project members related to these top 10 ideas. I think that coming back to ooo-dev with Top ideas is appropriate. Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking into. We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask users to rate them. FYI - The ASF Board has created a new TLP called Apache Steve which will expose the Voting mechanism used by the ASF membership. Regards, Dave That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had more time to be voted on. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. I just tried using ie8 to download Writer2epub along with a random sample of other extensions. I can confirm that it does indeed change the extension to zip. I second Rory's suggestion that a notice be put on the page to that effect along with instructions to rename it to .oxt after download. Regards Keith
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:44:34 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: I use AVG 2012.0.2180 Free Edition I installed AOO 3.4.1 on one of my Windows machines today and AVG didn't complain. I'll check in detail tomorrow when the machine is awake - near midnight here and I'm closing down. It is often the case that new OpenOffice releases trigger false positives from virus scanners. -- I put AVG free version on an XP VM, updated virus signatures, installed AOO 3.4.1 Windows en-US from the website and did a full scan. No issues reported. So if Maurice was indeed getting an AV hit, that suggests he might actually have something, either preexisting on his machine, or from downloading AOO from another website. If it were really a false positive, wouldn't we be seeing it as well? -Rob Rory O'Farrell ofarrwrk@iol. I'm sure we would all be seeing a warning if there was an intrinsic problem in the compiled code. Normal reaction from Volunteers on en-Forum is that a virus/malware warning on a new release of OpenOffice from the approved download sites is a false positive and I think so it has always proved; with the transition to Apache special care is needed until the AOO releases become well established, lest there be adverse publicity/comment. It would be helpful if Maurice could tell us the URL of the download site, the actual file name and size. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:02 -0700 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be amalgamated into improved support for MS Office formats, current and legacy. Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we also register comments against some of the already readily achievable functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which indicate how to do that function? Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected: 305 people have submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes. IMHO, this is wonderful. In some sense the voting process itself helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas and voting, which I hope we all are. Not all of us have the time. I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas. Maybe in the end we could promote a top 10 list of ideas, in a blog post, and collect also commentary from project members related to these top 10 ideas. I think that coming back to ooo-dev with Top ideas is appropriate. One of my concerns was that the multiple requests for similar features/support might cause these to drop off the radar as their voting would be too fragmented. Hence my suggestion that we consider amalgamation of closely related suggestions; the coding for one specific suggestion might easily expand to cover the coding necessary for a particular range. Hence the need for some form of triage to make best use of coding resources. Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking into. We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask users to rate them. FYI - The ASF Board has created a new TLP called Apache Steve which will expose the Voting mechanism used by the ASF membership. Regards, Dave That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had more time to be voted on. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. I just tried using ie8 to download Writer2epub along with a random sample of other extensions. I can confirm that it does indeed change the extension to zip. I second Rory's suggestion that a notice be put on the page to that effect along with instructions to rename it to .oxt after download. Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. Regards, Dave Regards Keith
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. I just tried using ie8 to download Writer2epub along with a random sample of other extensions. I can confirm that it does indeed change the extension to zip. I second Rory's suggestion that a notice be put on the page to that effect along with instructions to rename it to .oxt after download. Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I did the following: $ curl http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14712909/macro/w2e/writer2epub.oxt -D header writer2epub.oxt Here is the header: $ more header HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: nginx/1.0.14 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:15:24 GMT Content-Type: application/octet-stream Connection: keep-alive content-length: 1372152 x-robots-tag: noindex,nofollow accept-ranges: bytes etag: 4363n pragma: public cache-control: max-age=0 So, IE8 for these users is set to ignore the file extensions and guess the file type for the general type: application/octet-stream Regards, Dave Regards, Dave Regards Keith
Re: draft graduation resolution
Fixed a minor typo...this looks good to me. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: On 08/20/2012 01:28 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I put a draft of the graduation resolution onto the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Graduation+Resolution+%**28draft%29https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Graduation+Resolution+%28draft%29 snip Regards, -Rob Looks good Rob! Thanks, Carl
Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:58 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:02 -0700 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be amalgamated into improved support for MS Office formats, current and legacy. Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we also register comments against some of the already readily achievable functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which indicate how to do that function? Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected: 305 people have submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes. IMHO, this is wonderful. In some sense the voting process itself helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas and voting, which I hope we all are. Not all of us have the time. I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas. Maybe in the end we could promote a top 10 list of ideas, in a blog post, and collect also commentary from project members related to these top 10 ideas. I think that coming back to ooo-dev with Top ideas is appropriate. One of my concerns was that the multiple requests for similar features/support might cause these to drop off the radar as their voting would be too fragmented. Hence my suggestion that we consider amalgamation of closely related suggestions; the coding for one specific suggestion might easily expand to cover the coding necessary for a particular range. Hence the need for some form of triage to make best use of coding resources. Hi, Yes - I would agree, there will need to be some form of triage (call it moderation if you prefer). //drew Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking into. We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask users to rate them. FYI - The ASF Board has created a new TLP called Apache Steve which will expose the Voting mechanism used by the ASF membership. Regards, Dave That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had more time to be voted on. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. I just tried using ie8 to download Writer2epub along with a random sample of other extensions. I can confirm that it does indeed change the extension to zip. I second Rory's suggestion that a notice be put on the page to that effect along with instructions to rename it to .oxt after download. Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I did the following: $ curl http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14712909/macro/w2e/writer2epub.oxt -D header writer2epub.oxt Here is the header: $ more header HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: nginx/1.0.14 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:15:24 GMT Content-Type: application/octet-stream Connection: keep-alive content-length: 1372152 x-robots-tag: noindex,nofollow accept-ranges: bytes etag: 4363n pragma: public cache-control: max-age=0 So, IE8 for these users is set to ignore the file extensions and guess the file type for the general type: application/octet-stream And then presumably IE8 (or Windows) is doing some sniffing and finds the magic bytes PK and treats it like a zip. I wonder: if the file is renamed to *.oxt , does the Windows shell recognize it as an OO extension? In other words, if double clicked, what happens? Also, Microsoft Office OOXML files (docx, pptx, etc.) are also ZIP's. So if I.E. treats them correctly, then we should figure out what they are doing differently. -Rob Regards, Dave Regards, Dave Regards Keith
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:17:57 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:12:58 +0200 Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I just checked the Writer2Epub v1.1.7 extension on the extension site. The extension downloads correctly with oxt file extension. It is correct that from technical view an oxt file is a zip archive containing all content needed to install as an extension into Apache OpenOffice. Am 24.08.2012 15:00, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On the en-Forum I have seen a number of reports of downloading problems. Today there was this report I tried to download and install the ePub 1.1.17 extension. A zip file filled with various folders containing all kinds of files is downloaded. Nothing that looks like an installer. How do I install this extension? When a program is offered to me in the shape of a zip file full of different files, I never know what to do with it, to be honest. I suggested this might be a browser problem, as some browsers (definitely IE in some versions, there may be others) rename the OpenOffice extensions silently to type .zip. The user renamed the .zip to .oxt and it installed correctly. He then send me the following additional comment Thanks! I download the Dutch Spelling Checker and it also arrived in the shape of a zip file. Now I've renamed them both and they both snapped into being .oxt files. Perhaps this trick should be mentioned on the Extensions Introductory Page? It must be a problem for many users. I have asked what browser he is using and will post that detail when available. But in the meantime I think his suggestion of a mention of this problem on the Extensions page is valid and worthwhile. Kind regards, Joost I am certain the download page is correct as to the extension. The change to zip seems to depend on the browser in use. I know that some earlier version of IE did this, without notification. When I get further information I'll post it to this thread. Most of the active members of this list will use a browser of choice rather than a default browser, and will also update it, so won't be aware of this problem with some older browser. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I understand that this problem comes from IE8. I just tried using ie8 to download Writer2epub along with a random sample of other extensions. I can confirm that it does indeed change the extension to zip. I second Rory's suggestion that a notice be put on the page to that effect along with instructions to rename it to .oxt after download. Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I did the following: $ curl http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14712909/macro/w2e/writer2epub.oxt -D header writer2epub.oxt Here is the header: $ more header HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: nginx/1.0.14 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:15:24 GMT Content-Type: application/octet-stream Connection: keep-alive content-length: 1372152 x-robots-tag: noindex,nofollow accept-ranges: bytes etag: 4363n pragma: public cache-control: max-age=0 So, IE8 for these users is set to ignore the file extensions and guess the file type for the general type: application/octet-stream And then presumably IE8 (or Windows) is doing some sniffing and finds the magic bytes PK and treats it like a zip. I wonder: if the file is renamed to *.oxt , does the Windows shell recognize it as an OO extension? In other words, if double clicked, what happens? Also, Microsoft Office OOXML files (docx, pptx, etc.) are also ZIP's. So if I.E. treats them correctly, then we should figure out what they are doing differently. First it is important to see if this is a fresh AOO install. If so all IE8 windows may need to be shutdown before IE8 recognizes AOO extensions properly. I would not at all be surprised if the MSIE file type sniffing knows how to detect all of the MS Office document types correctly w/o registration. IIRC it did so in IE3. Back then (I'm not sure now.) IE3 was disrespectful of the web server and would make multiple requests for the file until it determined the type. HTH, Dave -Rob Regards, Dave Regards, Dave Regards Keith
Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
2012.08.21. 18:40 keltezéssel, Rob Weir írta: As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future. A big opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0. That once seemed so very far away, but 2013 is getting closer every day. Will it be a large collection of small ideas? Will it have a major overarching theme? Or will it just be whatever random stuff we happen to have on a given date when we release 4.0? The answer, of course, depends on what we, as project members/volunteers decide to do. It is a good time now, as a background activity, to poll the community and wider ecosystem on ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0. To participate, go to this page on Google Moderator, where you can help us gather and rate ideas: https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=2011d5 A few project members have already seeded this with some initial ideas. Of course, you are encouraged to add your own ideas, as well as rate the ideas of others. Try not to censor yourself from thinking outside-of-the-box. We need big ideas as well as incremental ones. We don't have a close date on this brainstorming activity, but it is good to get your ideas in early, so there is an opportunity for others to rate and comment on it. Regards, -Rob In old days around 2008-2009 we made similar brainstorming on OOo Base features, and we put all ideas into wiki page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Base/Features/Pool It is a wild ideas list not prioritized most of them valid for present state of Base. Regards, Zoltan
Re: CMS diff: AOO 3.4.1å ‘è¡Œè¯´æ˜Ž
2012/8/24 Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com: This patch (translation) wants to be applied to main (en-US) page. Will be reverted. Right. It should be placed in the specific NL directory. Either zh-tw or zh-cn (I'm not sure which it is). -Rob Michal Hriň Dňa Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:00:27 +0200 Anonymous CMS User anonym...@apache.org napísal: Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/development%2Freleases%2F3.4.1.html Index: trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html === --- trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (revision 1376868) +++ trunk/content/development/releases/3.4.1.html (working copy) @@ -1,151 +1,134 @@ html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 -titleAOO 3.4.1 Release Notes/title +titleAOO 3.4.1发行说明/title /head body -h1AOO 3.4.1 (build 1372282) Release Notes/h1 +h1AOO3.4.1(build 1372282)发行说明/h1 p - emTranslations: + em其他翻译: a href=https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-341-notas-de-la-versin.html;Espantilde;ol/a | a href=http://www.openoffice.org/it/stampa/comunicati/aoo341-rn.html;Italiano/a /em /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-GeneralRemarks/aGeneral Remarks/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-概述/a概述/h2 -pThe Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 is a maintenance release, intended to fix critical issues and improve -the overall quality of the application./p +pApache OpenOffice 3.4.1是一个维护版本，主要是用于修复几个关键性的问题和提高软件的整体质量。/p -pGeneral areas of improvement include:nbsp; additional language support, -bug fixes, performance improvements and Windows 8 compatibility enhancements.nbsp; -Further details on each of these areas are below./p +p主要的改善包括以下几个方面:nbsp;额外的语言支持、 +bug的修复、性能的改进和Windows 8 兼容性的增强。每个方面的细节将在下面进行描述。/p -pFor a more comprehensive overview of the changes from the 3.3.X OpenOffice.org releases and earlier; -please see the Release Notes for a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a +p如果你需要一个更加全面的自从OpenOffice 3.3.X或者更早的版本所作出的修改的总结，请参照3.4.0版本的发行说明a href=http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html;Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 /a。 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-AdditionalLanguageSupport/aAdditional Language Support/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-额外的语言支持/a额外的语言支持/h2 -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-NewtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aNew translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1新增可用的翻译包括:/h4 ul - liFinnish/li - liBritish English/li - liKhmer/li - liSlovak/li - liSlovenian/li + li芬兰语/li + li英式英语/li + li高棉语/li + li斯洛伐克语/li + li斯洛文尼亚语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-UpdatedtranslationsavailableinApacheOpenOffice3.4.1include%3A/aUpdated translations available in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 include:/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括%3A/a在Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1更新的可用翻译包括:/h4 ul - liDutch/li - liSpanish/li - liItalian/li - liHungarian/li + li菏兰语/li + li西班牙语/li + li意大利语/li + li匈牙利语/li /ul -h4a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-Foracompletelistofavailablelanguagesandlanguagepackssee%3A/a -For a complete list of available languages and language packs see: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a/h4 +h4a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看%3A/a +如果需要一个完整的可用语言和语言包列表，请查看: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html;http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html/a。/h4 -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-PlatformSupport/aPlatforms Supported/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-平台支持/a平台支持/h2 - pThe following platforms continue to be available as official releases from Apache OpenOffice: - Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit). - /p + p以下的几个平台将继续的成为Apache OpenOffice 的正式版本的发布平台：Microsoft Windows, MacOS (Intel), Linux (32 bit), Linux (64 bit)。 /p - pAdditionally, a number of community members are working on ports for Solaris, FreeBSD, and OS/2 and live/portable versions. - You can learn more from our Ports and Distributions page at: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a. + p此外，也有相当多的社区成员在Solaris、FreeBSD、OS/2和 live/portable 的各个版本下工作。 + 你可以在我们的端口和分布页面学到更多的东西: a href=http://www.openoffice.org/porting/;http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ /a。 /p -h2a name=AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-BugFixes/aBug Fixes/h2 +h2a name=AOO3.4.1发行说明-漏洞修复/a漏洞修复/h2 -pAs of 2012/08/16, there were 69 verified issues that have been resolved./p
Re: [INFO] Rat scan is now included in build process.
Also, the win buildbot now seems broken due to this change: http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/280 A. On 8/24/2012 1:20 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: On 23.08.2012 18:04, Andre Fischer wrote: On 23.08.2012 18:02, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/23/12 5:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, I wanted to let you know that I have included the rat scan in our build process. Just add --with-rat-scan to your configure call and build the office. Then look in ext_libraries/ratscan/platform/misc/aoo-3.5-rat-scan-output.html for the report. More details in the issue comments [1] and soon in a Wiki page. Note that at the moment this works only on Linux without errors. On both Windows and Mac there are problems with the XSLT transformation that turns the intermediate XML data in the HTML report. This is a general problem. -Andre [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120637 This file does not have any license header: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/ext_libraries/ratscan/scan/rat-output-to-html.xsl?view=markup well I assume that was an intended sefl-test ;-) Absolutely, ahem :-) I will fix this tomorrow. I have got to go now. Done. -Andre -- Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect OracleCorporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847
[Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. Regards Keith
Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
Hi all, The unofficial Apache OO Debian repository[1] was updated and now it is providing last version of Apache Openoffice with all available languages. [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian Again thanks to the Sourceforge's support! Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana (aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org GnuPG fprint: 88FB 5D63 ED02 3B5D 90D6 3A3E 8698 1CC9 89C5 5467 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. I like it. It did not apply in 3.4.1 since it was a maintenance release, but in general we would also want a section for New Features, maybe immediately before the Enhancements/Improvements. All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. If you can figure out how CWiki does templates I'm sure we would find plenty of other areas where this would be useful as well. Thanks! -Rob Regards Keith
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:44:34 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: I use AVG 2012.0.2180 Free Edition I installed AOO 3.4.1 on one of my Windows machines today and AVG didn't complain. I'll check in detail tomorrow when the machine is awake - near midnight here and I'm closing down. It is often the case that new OpenOffice releases trigger false positives from virus scanners. -- I put AVG free version on an XP VM, updated virus signatures, installed AOO 3.4.1 Windows en-US from the website and did a full scan. No issues reported. So if Maurice was indeed getting an AV hit, that suggests he might actually have something, either preexisting on his machine, or from downloading AOO from another website. If it were really a false positive, wouldn't we be seeing it as well? -Rob Rory O'Farrell ofarrwrk@iol. I'm sure we would all be seeing a warning if there was an intrinsic problem in the compiled code. Normal reaction from Volunteers on en-Forum is that a virus/malware warning on a new release of OpenOffice from the approved download sites is a false positive and I think so it has always proved; with the transition to Apache special care is needed until the AOO releases become well established, lest there be adverse publicity/comment. It would be helpful if Maurice could tell us the URL of the download site, the actual file name and size. I finally found the image attachment that Maurice sent out originally. It said of the download, it is not commonly downloaded and could harm your computer'. So this was not a false negative but part of the reputation-based mechanisms that AV's are starting to use. They look at a variety factors, including the age of the EXE and how many other users have installed it. If the program is new and not well known, then you will get warnings like this. The warnings go away over time. The only way to prevent them initially is to have your code be signed, or to whitelist your hashes in advance with the AV vendor. -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: proposed new directory structure for future releases
Am 08/24/2012 12:42 PM, schrieb sebb: On 24 August 2012 10:08, Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/23/12 11:37 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/23/2012 01:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2012 10:02 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/23 Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com: Way back in late April, Juergen proposed a new directory structure for release packs than what we have now which is essentially: /stable/VERSION/en-US items /localized/lang abbreviation/VERSION/lang items there are some other areas in SF as well and I don't know if they're still being used Could we restart the discussion, or just again send the proposed structure, on what the ideal structure would look like so we could get to work on modifying the download scripts? Thanks. -- MzK As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it. -- Buddy Hackett Warning: Layman comment following. Even if en-US is the base for all the other builds, I see no need to completely separate it from the rest. IMO, a structure like /stable/VERSION/lang abbreviation/etcetera werelang abbreviation includes en-US at the same level of all the other localizations would be perfectly clear to anyone. +1 This weird split complicates scripting operations on the tree. We could probably also eliminate the base of /stable. We don't release unstable code, do we? correct, and I think the schema that RGB currently proposes without the /stable is what Juergen basically proposed if memory serves. (I'm too lazy to go look for it. :/ ) I don't know if it's wanted by us or allowed by ASF: We could release Beta versions or RCs in a different dir than stable/. Then it would make sense to keep it. Otherwise you are right. Right now, since we are not releasing betas and I don't see this happening in the future given the ASF definition of release, we have no need for a /stable vs anything else. more or less but with going back to my proposal I think Rob made a good proposal with some minimal but useful differentiation. The only thing I woudl change is src = source because we already have it ;-) /ooo/VERSION/source /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK/ It might be better to use binaries. This is often used by ASF projects. It is plural because there are often multiple builds. It also cannot be confused with bin = wastebin. [In the US they use can == trashcan; the UK use bin == wastebin] Now -src and -bin are fine as part of a file name, but might be misinterpreted as a folder name. For developers, /bin/ has very different connotations (/usr/bin etc), but for end-users, they might be wary of downloading something that comes from what might as well be called: /ooo/VERSION/trash/ or /ooo/VERSION/waste/ Just a thought. OK, understood. However, the goal is to point the normal, average enduser never to the raw mirror server, but only to some webpages they can click on. Here we can use longer, explaining text. So, with this in mind it doesn't matter if you write bin or binaries. Of course, IMHO. Marcus At a level higher we have another split, between source and binaries, where binaries are in /files and source is in VERSION. So: /ooo/3.4.1/source here /ooo/files/stable/de/3.4.1/binaries here This might be harmonized as: /ooo/VERSION/src /ooo/VERSION/bin/LANG/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/SDK yes. Hopefully Juergen will weigh in soonish. not really necessary, I think we are more or less all on the same track ;-) Juergen (who is moving slowly over in vacation mode) Or just /ooo/VERSION/ to get the most flat structure. Maybe /ooo/VERSION/src/ /ooo/VERSION/bin/ if it's needed to separate source and binary files. Marcus
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) released
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:26:53 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:44:34 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:29:57 -0400 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: I use AVG 2012.0.2180 Free Edition I installed AOO 3.4.1 on one of my Windows machines today and AVG didn't complain. I'll check in detail tomorrow when the machine is awake - near midnight here and I'm closing down. It is often the case that new OpenOffice releases trigger false positives from virus scanners. -- I put AVG free version on an XP VM, updated virus signatures, installed AOO 3.4.1 Windows en-US from the website and did a full scan. No issues reported. So if Maurice was indeed getting an AV hit, that suggests he might actually have something, either preexisting on his machine, or from downloading AOO from another website. If it were really a false positive, wouldn't we be seeing it as well? -Rob Rory O'Farrell ofarrwrk@iol. I'm sure we would all be seeing a warning if there was an intrinsic problem in the compiled code. Normal reaction from Volunteers on en-Forum is that a virus/malware warning on a new release of OpenOffice from the approved download sites is a false positive and I think so it has always proved; with the transition to Apache special care is needed until the AOO releases become well established, lest there be adverse publicity/comment. It would be helpful if Maurice could tell us the URL of the download site, the actual file name and size. I finally found the image attachment that Maurice sent out originally. It said of the download, it is not commonly downloaded and could harm your computer'. So this was not a false negative but part of the reputation-based mechanisms that AV's are starting to use. They look at a variety factors, including the age of the EXE and how many other users have installed it. If the program is new and not well known, then you will get warnings like this. The warnings go away over time. The only way to prevent them initially is to have your code be signed, or to whitelist your hashes in advance with the AV vendor. -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I've just seen on Forum a similar report, originating from an installed McAfee. I reassured the User, who downloaded and installed, with no further gripes reported from McAfee. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
Hi On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br wrote: [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian Very good Marcelo, congratulation! Albino
Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. I like it. It did not apply in 3.4.1 since it was a maintenance release, but in general we would also want a section for New Features, maybe immediately before the Enhancements/Improvements. Thanks or the input. I will add that now. My goal is to get a standard look and look and feel. I sections are not needed fo a particular release than the boiler plate None at this time can be used or the section can be deleted or that release. Keith All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. If you can figure out how CWiki does templates I'm sure we would find plenty of other areas where this would be useful as well. Thanks! -Rob Regards Keith
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:48 -0300, Albino B Neto wrote: Hi On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br wrote: [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian Very good Marcelo, congratulation! Howdy, It is - I had one question though. Looking at the information at the SF pages it says The Debian packages in this repository are the same as provided by the Apache Foundation on its web page [1]. So, are these actual copies of files downloaded from AOO? Thanks, //drew
Re: How many AOO 3.4.1 downloads?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:45:18 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Rob Might we have a count of AOO 3.4.1 downloads in first 24 hours? No need for fancy graphics - a list would be OK. First, you need to know that the SF numbers are daily numbers, and based on a UTC day. Since we announced mid-day on the 23rd (UTC) that means that the stats for that day include a large portion of the day when 3.4.1 had not been announced, and when 3.4.1 was not linked to from the website. So I wouldn't read too much into that initial day. We'll know better by looking at next week's numbers. So given those caveats here's what I see, giving a other Thursday's in August as a comparison, since we have a strong day-of-week pattern to our downloads: August 2nd: 113469 August 9th: 107397 August 16th: 109834 And the day where AOO 3.4.1 was announced mid-day: August 23rd: 145146 So a 30% boost, which is rather good. I expect it will be even better when we can look at full-day. Thanks. This is most useful - we might expect a similar increase in Forum traffic, although perhaps timeshifted. It will be interesting to see how many. I image the support requests vary based on other factors as well. When Windows 8 ships it will be interesting... Another thing we should watch out for is mixing up download counts with user counts. Consider three scenarios, in both cases with exactly 1000 real users of the software: Scenario A (Single release) We release version 1 of software and month downloads are: Month 1: 250 Month 2: 250 Month 3: 250 Month 4; 250 In that case, the number of downloads and users are identical, assuming each user downloads once. This is similar to what we had with AOO 3.4.0 over the past few months. The 12 million downloads probably equates to 12 million real users. Scenario (B) (Two releases) In this case we release version 1 and then follow up with version 2 a couple of months later. Imagine exactly half of version 1 users upgrade to version 2 within two months, then we see: Month 1: 250 downloads (all version 1) Month 2: 250 downloads (all version 1) Month 3: 375 downloads (250 new users + 125 upgrades) Month 4: 375 downloads (250 new users + 125 upgrades) So in this case we have 1250 downloads, though we really only have 1000 users. Scenario C (a new release every month) Same assumptions, only 1000 real users, but 50% upgrade within 2 months Month 1: 250 downloads Month 2: 250 new downloads plus 125 upgrades from month 1's version Month 3: 250 new downloads plus 125 upgrades from month 2's version plus 125 upgrades from month 1's version Month 4: 250 new downloads plus 125 upgrades from month 3's version plus 125 upgrades from month 2's version So in this case, 1000 real users generate 2125 downloads due to the duplicate counting caused by upgrades and a rapid release schedule. See how this works? Now we can account for this in projecting users, since we're specially marking, with a special URL parameter, downloads that come from in-product upgrade notifications. So we can break out what fraction of AOO 3.4.1 downloads are new users versus upgrade users, as well as from what version of OOo or AOO they are upgrading from. Cool, eh? So in the future I should be able to report both download numbers and projected user numbers. But when comparisons are made to other projects, with a different release pace and philosophy, it is important that we keep this distinction in mind. Rapid release schedules lead to download numbers that far exceed the number of actual users. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Minor windows binary branding issue
I just installed AOO for a friend and noticed that the start menu created was still OpenOffice.org. Whomever hacks on the windows installer might want to quick fix it. Issac
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On 2012/08/25 03:09, drew said: On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:48 -0300, Albino B Neto wrote: Hi On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Marcelo Santana marcgsant...@yahoo.com.br wrote: [1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian Very good Marcelo, congratulation! Howdy, It is - I had one question though. Looking at the information at the SF pages it says The Debian packages in this repository are the same as provided by the Apache Foundation on its web page [1]. So, are these actual copies of files downloaded from AOO? Hmm... in that case, shouldn't these package files work on Squeeze, too? Why is Wheezy? Wheezy is not released yet. Thanks, //drew -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 at 12:09:57 -0700, drew wrote: [...] Howdy, Hi there, It is - I had one question though. Looking at the information at the SF pages it says The Debian packages in this repository are the same as provided by the Apache Foundation on its web page [1]. So, are these actual copies of files downloaded from AOO? Yes. As you can see on the README file, our intention is: | to provide a easier way for installation of the Apache OpenOffice | (AOO) on Debian and derivatives desktops while it is not available on | the official repositories, and make necessary adjustments (still at | the beginning) so that it is according the Debian policy and DFSG. *PS: Please reply with CC to me because I don't subscribe this list. Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana (aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org GnuPG fprint: 88FB 5D63 ED02 3B5D 90D6 3A3E 8698 1CC9 89C5 5467 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Minor windows binary branding issue
Am 08/24/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Issac Goldstand: I just installed AOO for a friend and noticed that the start menu created was still OpenOffice.org. Whomever hacks on the windows installer might want to quick fix it. Thats known and - at least a little bit - wanted. In order to release the version in time and not to post-pone it for weeks we had 2 options: 1) Fix all bugs which are there or reported by users. 2) Fix the severe once only. Of course, a wrong string in a menu - even when it touches the brand - is not that severe than crashes, data loss, etc. We will what you have posted here and similar bugs step by step, so that the next version should look like much more like an own software compared with 3.4.0 and 3.4.1. I hope you can understand this position. Marcus
Re: [INFO] Rat scan is now included in build process.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:26:53AM -0700, Andrew Rist wrote: Also, the win buildbot now seems broken due to this change: http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/280 Fixed with revision 1377080 Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpfXovm8BApU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Defect Status wiki
On 22/08/2012 Shenfeng Liu wrote: (2) I'm not sure what's the difference between the status *Verified* and *Closed*. IMO all the defects verified should finally be closed. In the old OpenOffice.org project, where the QA process was probably more formal, the meaning were the following: - Verified: a developer snapshot (in binary form) contains the fix - Closed: a stable version (in binary form) contains the fix So in theory one should now go through all the VERIFIED issues, check them with version 3.4.1 and set them to RESOLVED CLOSED if the fix works. In practice the code now has fewer complexities than it used to have (it had dozens of Child workspaces, or CWS, where development was done) so it's understandable that we take a lighter approach on this too. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Unofficial Apache OO Debian repository updated
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:45:38 +0800, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: [...] Hi there, Hmm... in that case, shouldn't these package files work on Squeeze, too? Why is Wheezy? Wheezy is not released yet. I'm not sure, but probably yes because there is no package dependency which prevent it to be installed on the squeeze. But I've not tested yet. Regards, -- Marcelo G. Santana (aka msantana) | GNU/Linux User number: #208778 http://blog.msantana.eng.br | http://identi.ca/mgsantana http://www.debianbrasil.org | http://br.gnome.org GnuPG fprint: 88FB 5D63 ED02 3B5D 90D6 3A3E 8698 1CC9 89C5 5467
Re: BAD link
On 23/08/2012 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: IIRC OOo never released en-US language packs, that's why many people working in translation, needing to check some UI string in English, ended up installing the en-GB language pack. Exactly. And this often happened also for volunteers busy with QA activities: a bug report in IssueZilla is supposed to use the English form for commands and menus, to make it easier for developers to reproduce the problem. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: update on the current status ...
Am 08/23/2012 10:20 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/23/2012 06:07 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi, On 23.08.2012 17:34, Andre Fischer wrote: On 23.08.2012 17:06, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 23.08.2012 15:52, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, as the so called release manager I would like to give an update where we are with the release and the final release preparation. You all know we passed the PPMC and IPMC vote successful, the first important step towards our release. The download page suggests: Download Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 Click to start downloading the most recent version for Linux Debian 64-bit (DEB) and Deutsch. which is correct. When I follow the suggestion I get a file Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_de.tar.gz which is not correct. It does not install a runnable program $ /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: 84: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/pagein: not found /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: 1: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx: not found /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: 120: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: not found I get the same error message (on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit) but it is misleading. The files exist (I checked), but they do not run. So, only one problem to solve: fix detection of correct Linux platform. Together with Andre and Jürgen I had made a change to the download script. Please try again. Thanks for diving in and fixing. I'm sure that the now commented code part is in since, hm, ever. Were there also problems in the past? Does someone remember? Seems to be a case to investigate on the weekend when I've more spare time. I've looked into the code and the part you have commented out. It is logical that the DL script return always a 32-bit file because of the last else clause which is working as a fall-back regardless what was set in the if statements some line before. However, I've no clue how that last else came in. So, I guess it was already online with AOO 3.4.0 or maybe longer. But nobody has noticed the error before? Hm, strange. I'm a bit puzzled. So, thanks again for the fix. Marcus
Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Release+Notes+Templatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. Regards Keith Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for organization. -- MzK As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it. -- Buddy Hackett
Re: Extension downloading problem
Dave Fisher wrote: Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I had different results than Dave's, and I concluded I see different MIME types depending on the mirror I get, so this depends on how each individual mirror used by SourceForge is configured. Example with repeated attempts (strings are in Italian but it's easy to understand that the first and last one are right, the other mirrors are not): $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://dfn.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension] MIME types are defined at the web server level, so the configuration for each mirror is probably responsible for this difference. Then most browsers will get it right nevertheless, but some might be tricked by receiving the generic octet-stream type and interpreting it as a valid ZIP file (which is correct, but not the best thing to do of course) before checking if it is a valid OXT file as well. A simple test could be to ask people who report problems if they get different behaviors with http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt (which serves OXT as octet/stream) and http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt (which serves OXT as application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension). Regards, Andrea.
[BZ] Please add 3.4.1 as version to all components in BugZilla
Hi BZ admins, as AOO 3.4.1 is now available, please add the 3.4.1 version into the BZ instance of AOO. Thanks Marcus
Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming
Somebody slap my wrist or correct me if this is redundant, or in the wrong place, but I didn't see anything on the wiki related to AOO4 brainstorming, so I created this: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+Brainstorming My idea is that we can breakout individual areas for specific proposals for further work. As an example: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Social+Integration If this needs to be somewhere else, let me know, or feel free to move it or whatever. Phil
Re: Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:04 PM, eric wu jinjin...@cs2c.com.cn wrote: hi : I have finished my translation of the release notes,but i don't know what format to save my translation and how to put the translation under: http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/, can you help me ?thank you! eric wu Hi eric -- Ok, a bit of a problem. Your translation, while good work, is set up to actually overwrite the current Release Notes in English where they currently reside, so we will not commit this change. So, I think what will need to happen is you (or someone) needs to determine where in/on this new page, your translated release notes will live. Go there and setup for a new page in an area, and then submit the translation to that NEW area so you don't overwrite the existing English copy. I know how to do this in normal svn but I'm not sure how to go about some of this using the CMS bookmarklet if you want to know the truth. Maybe someone else can weigh in here. First, though, maybe some additional coordination about where to locate this. I hope this helps. From: Shenfeng Liu Date: 2012-08-21 14:02 To: ooo-dev; jinjin.wu Subject: Re: The translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement Eric, That's great! You can find the current AOO 3.4.1 release draft by Kay Schenk in English here: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html . I'm not sure if any further editing will be make on it. And I think it will be better to put the translation some where under http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/ . (Any better suggestion?) The way should be copy the English release notes to the folder of zh-cn, then translate it into a Chinese version. But currently we are freezing the web waiting for the release, so I guess we can not update the contents directly now. Maybe you can prepare for your translations, and after the release, we can publish it immediately. Thanks! - Simon 2012/8/21 eric wu jinjin...@cs2c.com.cn Hi all: I am from China Standard Software Co., Ltd.(cs2c), as a chinese apache open office user,i am looking forward to assume the task of translation of AOO3.4.1 release notes and announcement . eric wu -- MzK As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it. -- Buddy Hackett
Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Release+Notes+Templatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. Regards Keith Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for organization. Thanks Kay, that was one of the ideas that prompted me to do this. I noted that you said in an earlier thread that converting the notes from the wiki to HTML took some futzing. Are we using the HTML export add-on that is available or Conluence or are you doing it by hand? Regards Keith
Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Hello All; I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so. Regards Keit After rooting through the the Confluence documentation pages, it appears that admin privileges are need to create a true template. There are two types of templates Space Templates and Global Templates. For space templates you need space admin privileges, or global templates you need Confluence administrator privileges. I have neither of the above privileges, therefore if the decision is to use the template than someone with those privileges would need to copy it into the template editor. Regards Keith
3.4.1 Crashes on MacOS 10.7.4
Dear all, One of our local user (he is not good in English) reported that 3.4.1 crashes on his MacOS 10.7.4, with clean new user profile. I have no MacOS to test, so I reported it here to see if there is anyone that can help. Raphael suggested that he should turn on both 32bit and 64bit Java. He did, but it still crashes. He uses Macbook Pro 13 Intel c2d 2.26GHz. He barely found a message in the system log saying that: 12/8/25 12:16:52.533am soffice: Warning - conversion from 64 bit to 32 bit integral value requested within NSPortCoder, but the 64 bit value 18446744073709551615 cannot be represented by a 32 bit value I have no clue on this. Could anyone help? Or should I ask for more information? Thank you. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
