Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

   - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
 This release included:
   Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages


Six plus source: Windows, Mac, Linux 32-bit RPM, Linux 32-bit DEB, Linux 
64-bit RPM, Linux 64-bit DEB.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Kay Schenk



On 06/05/2012 11:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Kay Schenk wrote:

- We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
This release included:
Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages


Six plus source: Windows, Mac, Linux 32-bit RPM, Linux 32-bit DEB, Linux
64-bit RPM, Linux 64-bit DEB.


Thanks Andrea -- apparently my eyes are failing me! :(



Regards,
Andrea.


--

MzK


Everything will be all right in the end...
 if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
   -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel



Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Kay Schenk



On 06/05/2012 05:34 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

On 6 June 2012 01:20, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ross Gardlerrgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

On 6 June 2012 00:14, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:






OK, here is the latest revision--and guess what, after some digging, I
found the SPI deal is done! YAY!


Hold up...


http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16846


Sorry to disappoint. The cheque mentioned in that post was cancelled
due to the change in chair of Fundraising and further questions being
asked here in the ASF. See
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16845/match=schultheiss

Unfortunately my note about further questions overlapped with the
cheque notification otherwise I would have kept my mouth shut and
returned the money if approval had not been given. Sometimes email and
a rotating planet work against us...

Ross


Ross...this coupled with your earlier comment...

There is certainly improvement but still the SPI issue is not
resolved, calling that out explicitly makes me thing the PPMC is
unaware of activity on this issue. This is falling between the cracks,
partly because a change in VP fundraising resulted in a further delay
after the issue seemed to be resolved on the SPI side. However, the
item was raised at the last board meeting and everything should now be
cleared up. I have it on my todo list to close this off, but that
would not be the PPMC being self-managing and nobody here has asked me
what needs to be done still (if someone could pick this up I'd be
grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
have SPI transfer funds).

OK, in my mind, the PPMC *was* self-managing in addressing this 
initially, and the post I referenced. So, I will need to modify this 
comment in some way that makes sense.


a confusing set of events...
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16759





Ross

Ross


--

MzK


Everything will be all right in the end...
 if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
   -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel



Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Kay Schenk



On 06/05/2012 05:26 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:

OK, here's a draft -- Dennis is working on getting me actual people
numbers later today, so what I have here in terms of new committers is just
a (bad) guess. And, duh -- we only report in March, June, September,
December, so what I have here in terms of what we've been doing since March
is probably way, way off... Please update as you see fit!

I now have an incubator wiki account so I will happily post when we're done


== proposed June AOO report ==

*Project Name and Brief Description*

OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)

* OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13

OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite providing
six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format (ODF).
OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its localizations  have
supported 110 languages worldwide.

* Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation *

  1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
  2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work oncommunity
readiness espeically with refgard to
organization and communication style.
  3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community



It seems odd to have a list that large and say that we're about to
start a graduation vote.


OK, I don't get your meaning here...

 My impression was we're really only working

on #1, and Andre and Pedro seem to have those under control.  #2 and
#3 are ongoing activities, before and after graduation, for us and any
other Apache project.


we had #3 in the March report, so I just left it.

I put in #2, because this is a point in the preparing for graduation 
document, and goes to how well we operate as a group. The reason I 
included it was twofold: to give communication style/interoperability 
more attention by us; and to make sure the incubator board knows we 
think this is important.


 But I don't think we have any graduation

blocking issues there.


no...it's just a awareness list.





We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are
putting renewed emphasis on the above items
as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.

* Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *

  - None

* Community Development Progress *

  - Since our last report we have voted in 5 (?) new Committers/PPMC members.
  - Since our last report, one committer/PPMC member has resigned
  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
moderation).
  - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version and
provide client installs of our latest release 3.4.
This decision was arrived after much discussion among members and
consulation with mentors.
  - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources (services,
volunteers) into translation efforts
  - We are putting more effort into addressing trademark and third-party
distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important
concern.
  - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with maintaiing
now abandoned former native-language project web sites.



I'd word that as, 'We are increasing our global reach by recruiting
volunteers to help update and maintain the large set of legacy native
language home pages


ok -- will do




* Project Development Progress *

  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.


Over three million downloads in the first month.


This release included:
  Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
  Source tarbalss in Engligh
  Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
  Language packs for 15 languages

A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline

We would like to publicly acknowledge the efforts of our mentors, the
Apache infrastructure team, and the wonderful folks at SourceForge in making
this release a success!


  - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B code
to comply with graduation requirements
  - Prepartion was made in May for importing IBM Symphony changes into the
OpenOffice repository


Maybe first say an SGA was received from IBM for IBM Lotus Symphony,
and now are preparing to import...


ok...




This should be complete by the time of the June board meeting.
  - Work is continuing on making translation processes easier for volunteers.
Currently, only committers can access the Pootel server.
  - Testing and implementation of old update service for OpenOffice has been
accomplished. This service is for older OpenOffice clients to identify
updates and, optionally, install an update if available.
  -  need and update on this one and the mailing list 

Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Kay Schenk



On 06/05/2012 08:36 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

KG01 - See comments inline.

Kay, thanks for putting this information together.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:

OK, here's a draft -- Dennis is working on getting me actual people
numbers later today, so what I have here in terms of new committers is

just

a (bad) guess. And, duh -- we only report in March, June, September,
December, so what I have here in terms of what we've been doing since

March

is probably way, way off... Please update as you see fit!

I now have an incubator wiki account so I will happily post when we're

done



== proposed June AOO report ==

*Project Name and Brief Description*

OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)

* OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13

OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite

providing

six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format (ODF).
OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its localizations  have
supported 110 languages worldwide.

* Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation *

  1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
  2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work on

  community

readiness espeically with refgard to
organization and communication style.
  3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community



It seems odd to have a list that large and say that we're about to
start a graduation vote.  My impression was we're really only working
on #1, and Andre and Pedro seem to have those under control.  #2 and
#3 are ongoing activities, before and after graduation, for us and any
other Apache project.  But I don't think we have any graduation
blocking issues there.



We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are
putting renewed emphasis on the above items
as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.

* Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *

  - None

* Community Development Progress *

  - Since our last report we have voted in 5 (?) new Committers/PPMC

members.

  - Since our last report, one committer/PPMC member has resigned
  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
moderation).
  - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version

and

provide client installs of our latest release 3.4.
This decision was arrived after much discussion among members and
consulation with mentors.
  - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources (services,
volunteers) into translation efforts
  - We are putting more effort into addressing trademark and third-party
distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important
concern.
  - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with

maintaiing

now abandoned former native-language project web sites.





KG01 - Re 3. Increase size and diversity of the active development
community, perhaps we could acknowledge that we are working to
re-invigorate the user experience design effort. Software is for people,
and we should show that we are working hard to understand who is user our
product, why and for what, and how we will work to deliver the best
experience possible to support our users. We don't just make code software,
we design great products that align with our client's view of success -
that is a design activity. My feedback here is too wordy, please include
anything that acknowledges effort in user research and design of our
products would be great.


you got it! I'll include something on this!





I'd word that as, 'We are increasing our global reach by recruiting
volunteers to help update and maintain the large set of legacy native
language home pages


* Project Development Progress *

  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.


Over three million downloads in the first month.


This release included:
  Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
  Source tarbalss in Engligh
  Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
  Language packs for 15 languages

A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:



http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline


We would like to publicly acknowledge the efforts of our mentors,

the

Apache infrastructure team, and the wonderful folks at SourceForge in

making

this release a success!


  - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B

code

to comply with graduation requirements
  - Prepartion was made in May for importing IBM Symphony changes into the
OpenOffice repository


Maybe first say an SGA was received from IBM for IBM Lotus Symphony,
and now are preparing to import...


This should be complete by the time 

Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Yes, I agree the funding thing is confusing. It is a situation that the ASF
is not set up to manage, and one that probably won't happen again.

That being said, someone in the PPMC needs to own these things. I'm aware
of their status, so it is possible, but it would seem nobody else is
tracking each step as things gradually move forwards. Of course, we are all
volunteers here, I'm not blaming anyone just highlighting some of the
problems a volunteer organisation needs to address.

Ross

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jun 6, 2012 6:16 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 06/05/2012 11:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Kay Schenk wrote:

 - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
 This release included:
 Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages


 Six plus source: Windows, Mac, Linux 32-bit RPM, Linux 32-bit DEB, Linux
 64-bit RPM, Linux 64-bit DEB.


 Thanks Andrea -- apparently my eyes are failing me! :(


 Regards,
 Andrea.


 --
 --**--**
 
 MzK


 Everything will be all right in the end...
  if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
   -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel




Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 Yes, I agree the funding thing is confusing. It is a situation that the ASF
 is not set up to manage, and one that probably won't happen again.

 That being said, someone in the PPMC needs to own these things. I'm aware
 of their status, so it is possible, but it would seem nobody else is
 tracking each step as things gradually move forwards. Of course, we are all
 volunteers here, I'm not blaming anyone just highlighting some of the
 problems a volunteer organisation needs to address.

 Ross


got it! I'll look at the postings again...obviously some mis-communication
or expected communication (to the PPMC) that never came.



 Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
 On Jun 6, 2012 6:16 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
  On 06/05/2012 11:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 
  Kay Schenk wrote:
 
  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
  This release included:
  Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
 
 
  Six plus source: Windows, Mac, Linux 32-bit RPM, Linux 32-bit DEB, Linux
  64-bit RPM, Linux 64-bit DEB.
 
 
  Thanks Andrea -- apparently my eyes are failing me! :(
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  --
  --**--**
  
  MzK
 
 
  Everything will be all right in the end...
   if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
-- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
 
 




-- 

MzK

Everything will be all right in the end...
  if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
 -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel


*DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Kay Schenk
OK, here's a draft -- Dennis is working on getting me actual people 
numbers later today, so what I have here in terms of new committers is 
just a (bad) guess. And, duh -- we only report in March, June, 
September, December, so what I have here in terms of what we've been 
doing since March is probably way, way off... Please update as you see fit!


I now have an incubator wiki account so I will happily post when we're done


== proposed June AOO report ==

*Project Name and Brief Description*

OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)

* OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13

OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite 
providing six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument 
Format (ODF). OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its 
localizations  have supported 110 languages worldwide.


* Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation *

  1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
  2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work on 	 
community readiness espeically with refgard to

organization and communication style.
  3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community

We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are 
putting renewed emphasis on the above items

as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.

* Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *

  - None

* Community Development Progress *

  - Since our last report we have voted in 5 (?) new Committers/PPMC 
members.

  - Since our last report, one committer/PPMC member has resigned
  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, 
forum moderation).
  - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version 
and provide client installs of our latest release 3.4.
This decision was arrived after much discussion among members and 
consulation with mentors.
  - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources 
(services, volunteers) into translation efforts
  - We are putting more effort into addressing trademark and 
third-party distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important 
concern.
  - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with 
maintaiing now abandoned former native-language project web sites.


* Project Development Progress *

  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
This release included:
  Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
  Source tarbalss in Engligh
  Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
  Language packs for 15 languages

A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline

	We would like to publicly acknowledge the efforts of our mentors, the 
Apache infrastructure team, and the wonderful folks at SourceForge in 
making this release a success!



  - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B 
code to comply with graduation requirements
  - Prepartion was made in May for importing IBM Symphony changes into 
the OpenOffice repository

This should be complete by the time of the June board meeting.
  - Work is continuing on making translation processes easier for 
volunteers. Currently, only committers can access the Pootel server.
  - Testing and implementation of old update service for OpenOffice has 
been accomplished. This service is for older OpenOffice clients to 
identify updates and, optionally, install an update if available.

  -  need and update on this one and the mailing list numbers!!:
Community support forums remain popular with users, hitting a new
concurrency record (296)





--

MzK

So let it rock, let it roll
Let the bible belt come and save my soul
Hold on to sixteen as long as you can
Changes come around real soon make us woman and men.
  -- Jack and Diane, John Mellencamp


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 5 June 2012 21:34, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *

  - None

What about the possibility of leaks and the damage this might do to
the community?

You may have omitted it because you feel it is being handled OK and
that there is nothing really to report at this stage. If that is the
case then I would say that. The goal here is to give a heads up to the
IPMC/Board that there is a serious issue and that it is being dealt
with internally. If it is not resolved to the communities satisfaction
and escalation is the first the IPMC/Board hear of this that will be
considered bad form.

You may also have omitted it because you are aware the IPMC and Board
are already informed. This is true, but the board report is an
opportunity for those who are not satisfied with progress to raise
further issues and, if they so wish, escalate. I therefore try and
include all items that cause significant tension. Furthermore, it is
not uncommon for the board to ask a PMC chair to provide more
information if something like this is not included in a report (a
board member will often scan lists during review). They don't want to
have to do detective work but if it looks like an issue is being
ignored they will seek clarification.

Note, the board reports are public so be sparing with details. The
IPMC/Board has access to the private archives if they want details.
From my last update to this list I think you could say:

Possible leaks of information from the ooo-private email list are
being investigated. Our first objective is to first establish if and
how leaks occurred. Once full details are available we will be working
to address the issue directly. No action is currently required from
the board and an update will be provided, at the latest, in our next
report.

  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
    and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
 moderation).

There is certainly improvement but still the SPI issue is not
resolved, calling that out explicitly makes me thing the PPMC is
unaware of activity on this issue. This is falling between the cracks,
partly because a change in VP fundraising resulted in a further delay
after the issue seemed to be resolved on the SPI side. However, the
item was raised at the last board meeting and everything should now be
cleared up. I have it on my todo list to close this off, but that
would not be the PPMC being self-managing and nobody here has asked me
what needs to be done still (if someone could pick this up I'd be
grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
have SPI transfer funds).

You probably also want to mention that the PPMC is starting to plan
for graduation.

Ross


-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 (if someone could pick this up I'd be
 grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
 have SPI transfer funds).

Suggestion: specify what the funds would be used for.  I see prior
mention of planning for an event.  If so, that would be ideal, as that
would increase the chance of the request being approved.

- Sam Ruby


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 On 5 June 2012 21:34, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *
 
   - None

 What about the possibility of leaks and the damage this might do to
 the community?

 You may have omitted it because you feel it is being handled OK and
 that there is nothing really to report at this stage. If that is the
 case then I would say that. The goal here is to give a heads up to the
 IPMC/Board that there is a serious issue and that it is being dealt
 with internally. If it is not resolved to the communities satisfaction
 and escalation is the first the IPMC/Board hear of this that will be
 considered bad form.

 You may also have omitted it because you are aware the IPMC and Board
 are already informed.


This was my assumption but I don't know that for sure.

I will be happy to include the leak business.


 This is true, but the board report is an
 opportunity for those who are not satisfied with progress to raise
 further issues and, if they so wish, escalate. I therefore try and
 include all items that cause significant tension. Furthermore, it is
 not uncommon for the board to ask a PMC chair to provide more
 information if something like this is not included in a report (a
 board member will often scan lists during review). They don't want to
 have to do detective work but if it looks like an issue is being
 ignored they will seek clarification.

 Note, the board reports are public so be sparing with details.


yes, I know this...


 The
 IPMC/Board has access to the private archives if they want details.
 From my last update to this list I think you could say:

 Possible leaks of information from the ooo-private email list are
 being investigated. Our first objective is to first establish if and
 how leaks occurred. Once full details are available we will be working
 to address the issue directly. No action is currently required from
 the board and an update will be provided, at the latest, in our next
 report.


I will include your wording on this. Thank you.



   - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
 and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
  moderation).

 There is certainly improvement but still the SPI issue is not
 resolved, calling that out explicitly makes me thing the PPMC is
 unaware of activity on this issue. This is falling between the cracks,
 partly because a change in VP fundraising resulted in a further delay
 after the issue seemed to be resolved on the SPI side. However, the
 item was raised at the last board meeting and everything should now be
 cleared up. I have it on my todo list to close this off, but that
 would not be the PPMC being self-managing and nobody here has asked me
 what needs to be done still (if someone could pick this up I'd be
 grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
 have SPI transfer funds).

 You probably also want to mention that the PPMC is starting to plan
 for graduation.


Well I did mention that we were in the discussion stage on this, but I
can be more explicit.



 Ross


 --
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Thanks for your comments, Ross. Much appreciated.



-- 

MzK

Everything will be all right in the end...
  if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
 -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 wrote:
  (if someone could pick this up I'd be
  grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
  have SPI transfer funds).

 Suggestion: specify what the funds would be used for.  I see prior
 mention of planning for an event.  If so, that would be ideal, as that
 would increase the chance of the request being approved.

 - Sam Ruby


OK, thanks.

-- 

MzK

Everything will be all right in the end...
  if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
 -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 wrote:
 (if someone could pick this up I'd be
 grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to
 have SPI transfer funds).
 
 Suggestion: specify what the funds would be used for.  I see prior
 mention of planning for an event.  If so, that would be ideal, as that
 would increase the chance of the request being approved.
 
 - Sam Ruby
 
 
 OK, thanks.

With these suggested changes - well done Kay!

Regards,
Dave


 
 -- 
 
 MzK
 
 Everything will be all right in the end...
  if it's not all right then it's not the end. 
 -- Sonny, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel



Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 6 June 2012 00:14, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ross Gardler 
 rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

...

 You probably also want to mention that the PPMC is starting to plan
 for graduation.


 Well I did mention that we were in the discussion stage on this, but I
 can be more explicit.

I missed it, not sure if that was my rush to give you feedback or
whether it needs to be more explicit - your call on that one.

Oh, and I forgot to say thank you for picking this up.

Ross

-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 On 6 June 2012 00:14, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 wrote:

 ...

  You probably also want to mention that the PPMC is starting to plan
  for graduation.
 
 
  Well I did mention that we were in the discussion stage on this, but I
  can be more explicit.

 I missed it, not sure if that was my rush to give you feedback or
 whether it needs to be more explicit - your call on that one.


Well we are still basically in the discussion stage at this point. So, I
think this is sufficient.


 Oh, and I forgot to say thank you for picking this up.

 Ross

 --
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




OK, here is the latest revision--and guess what, after some digging, I
found the SPI deal is done! YAY!

and Dave, thank you...we have been REALLY busy since March! centuries in
AOO time!

I should get some actual numbers re committers from Dennis soonish.  The
formatting is a mess here but it should come out better for the wiki post.

=
June Board Report

Project Name and Brief Description:

OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)

* OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13

OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite providing
six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format (ODF).
OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its localizations support
have supported 110 languages worldwide.

Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation:

  1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
  2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work on community
readiness espeically with refgard to
organization and communication style.
  3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community

We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are
putting renewed emphasis on these items
as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.

Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness

  - Leaks from ooo-private to outside agencies

  Possible leaks of information from the ooo-private email list are
  being investigated. Our first objective is to first establish if and
  how leaks occurred. Once full details are available we will be working
  to address the issue directly. No action is currently required from
  the board and an update will be provided, at the latest, in our next
  report.


Community Development/Outreach  Progress

  - Since our last report we have voted in 7 (?) new Committers/PPMC
members.
  - Since our last report, 2 committer/PPMC members have resigned
  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
and solve project related topics (e.g. forum moderation)
  - We were able to successfully transfer SPI funds formerly earmarked for
OpenOffice.org
to the ASF. See permalink:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16846
These funds, as previously discussed, will primarily be used for
developer travel when needed.
  - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version and
provide client installs of
latest release 3.4. This event was accomplished after much discussion
among members and consulation
with mentors.
  - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources (services,
volunteers) into translation efforts
  - We are more putting effort into addressing trademark and third-party
distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important
concern.
  - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with maintaing
now abandoned former native-language
project web sites.
  - Established various social programming accounts for additional
outreach: Twitter, Google+, Facebook
  - Setup two additional native language mailing lists


Project Development Progress
  - Pootle services for the project were established and used.
Translation services will be ongoing as new contributors for this
service join.
  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.
This release included:
  Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
  Source tarbalss in Engligh
  Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
  Language packs for 15 languages

A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline

  - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B code
to comply
with graduation requirement
  - Prepartion was made for importing IBM Symphony chages into the
OpenOffice repository
This should be complete by the time of the June board meeting.
  - Testing and implementation of old update service for OpenOffice has
been accomplished.
This service is for 

Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, here's a draft -- Dennis is working on getting me actual people
 numbers later today, so what I have here in terms of new committers is just
 a (bad) guess. And, duh -- we only report in March, June, September,
 December, so what I have here in terms of what we've been doing since March
 is probably way, way off... Please update as you see fit!

 I now have an incubator wiki account so I will happily post when we're done


 == proposed June AOO report ==

 *Project Name and Brief Description*

 OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)

 * OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13

 OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite providing
 six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format (ODF).
 OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its localizations  have
 supported 110 languages worldwide.

 * Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation *

  1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
  2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work on    community
 readiness espeically with refgard to
    organization and communication style.
  3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community


It seems odd to have a list that large and say that we're about to
start a graduation vote.  My impression was we're really only working
on #1, and Andre and Pedro seem to have those under control.  #2 and
#3 are ongoing activities, before and after graduation, for us and any
other Apache project.  But I don't think we have any graduation
blocking issues there.


 We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are
 putting renewed emphasis on the above items
 as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.

 * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *

  - None

 * Community Development Progress *

  - Since our last report we have voted in 5 (?) new Committers/PPMC members.
  - Since our last report, one committer/PPMC member has resigned
  - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
    and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
 moderation).
  - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version and
 provide client installs of our latest release 3.4.
 This decision was arrived after much discussion among members and
 consulation with mentors.
  - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources (services,
 volunteers) into translation efforts
  - We are putting more effort into addressing trademark and third-party
 distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
    how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important
 concern.
  - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with maintaiing
 now abandoned former native-language project web sites.


I'd word that as, 'We are increasing our global reach by recruiting
volunteers to help update and maintain the large set of legacy native
language home pages

 * Project Development Progress *

  - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.

Over three million downloads in the first month.

    This release included:
      Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
      Source tarbalss in Engligh
      Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
      Language packs for 15 languages

    A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline

        We would like to publicly acknowledge the efforts of our mentors, the
 Apache infrastructure team, and the wonderful folks at SourceForge in making
 this release a success!


  - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B code
 to comply with graduation requirements
  - Prepartion was made in May for importing IBM Symphony changes into the
 OpenOffice repository

Maybe first say an SGA was received from IBM for IBM Lotus Symphony,
and now are preparing to import...

    This should be complete by the time of the June board meeting.
  - Work is continuing on making translation processes easier for volunteers.
 Currently, only committers can access the Pootel server.
  - Testing and implementation of old update service for OpenOffice has been
 accomplished. This service is for older OpenOffice clients to identify
 updates and, optionally, install an update if available.
  -  need and update on this one and the mailing list numbers!!:

For ooo-dev we have 409 subscribers !

    Community support forums remain popular with users, hitting a new
    concurrency record (296)



Very good report.  I see you have some other suggestions as well.
Once those are included, and maybe a run through a spell checker, it
should be ready to go.

Thanks for volunteering to draft this!

-Rob





 --
 
 MzK

 So let it rock, let it roll
 Let the 

Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Ross Gardler
On 6 June 2012 01:20, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ross Gardler 
 rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
 On 6 June 2012 00:14, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:




 OK, here is the latest revision--and guess what, after some digging, I
 found the SPI deal is done! YAY!

Hold up...

 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16846

Sorry to disappoint. The cheque mentioned in that post was cancelled
due to the change in chair of Fundraising and further questions being
asked here in the ASF. See
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16845/match=schultheiss

Unfortunately my note about further questions overlapped with the
cheque notification otherwise I would have kept my mouth shut and
returned the money if approval had not been given. Sometimes email and
a rotating planet work against us...

Ross

Ross

Ross


Re: *DRAFT* June board report...please help

2012-06-05 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline.

Kay, thanks for putting this information together.


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  OK, here's a draft -- Dennis is working on getting me actual people
  numbers later today, so what I have here in terms of new committers is
 just
  a (bad) guess. And, duh -- we only report in March, June, September,
  December, so what I have here in terms of what we've been doing since
 March
  is probably way, way off... Please update as you see fit!
 
  I now have an incubator wiki account so I will happily post when we're
 done
 
 
  == proposed June AOO report ==
 
  *Project Name and Brief Description*
 
  OpenOffice (was OpenOffice.org)
 
  * OpenOffice entered incubation 2011-06-13
 
  OpenOffice is an open-source, office-document productivity suite
 providing
  six productivity applications based around the OpenDocument Format (ODF).
  OpenOffice is released on multiple platforms.  Its localizations  have
  supported 110 languages worldwide.
 
  * Most Important Items To Address Toward Graduation *
 
   1. Review of distributed articles to ensure compliance with ASF policy
   2. Given the size and scope of OpenOffice, continue work on
  community
  readiness espeically with refgard to
 organization and communication style.
   3. Increase size and diversity of the active development community
 

 It seems odd to have a list that large and say that we're about to
 start a graduation vote.  My impression was we're really only working
 on #1, and Andre and Pedro seem to have those under control.  #2 and
 #3 are ongoing activities, before and after graduation, for us and any
 other Apache project.  But I don't think we have any graduation
 blocking issues there.


  We have started preliminary discussion concerning graduation, and are
  putting renewed emphasis on the above items
  as we would like to propose graduation within the next month.
 
  * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness *
 
   - None
 
  * Community Development Progress *
 
   - Since our last report we have voted in 5 (?) new Committers/PPMC
 members.
   - Since our last report, one committer/PPMC member has resigned
   - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address
 and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum
  moderation).
   - We accepted an offer from SourceForge to host our older 3.3 version
 and
  provide client installs of our latest release 3.4.
  This decision was arrived after much discussion among members and
  consulation with mentors.
   - Due to heightened interest, we are putting more resources (services,
  volunteers) into translation efforts
   - We are putting more effort into addressing trademark and third-party
  distributin requests. Ongoing emphasis as to
 how to accomodate and track these requests is becoming an important
  concern.
   - We are putting renewed emphasis on recruitment to assist with
 maintaiing
  now abandoned former native-language project web sites.
 


KG01 - Re 3. Increase size and diversity of the active development
community, perhaps we could acknowledge that we are working to
re-invigorate the user experience design effort. Software is for people,
and we should show that we are working hard to understand who is user our
product, why and for what, and how we will work to deliver the best
experience possible to support our users. We don't just make code software,
we design great products that align with our client's view of success -
that is a design activity. My feedback here is too wordy, please include
anything that acknowledges effort in user research and design of our
products would be great.



 I'd word that as, 'We are increasing our global reach by recruiting
 volunteers to help update and maintain the large set of legacy native
 language home pages

  * Project Development Progress *
 
   - We released Apache OpenOffice 3.4 on May 8, 2012.

 Over three million downloads in the first month.

 This release included:
   Five different client platform install versions in 15 languages
   Source tarbalss in Engligh
   Software development kit packaging for 5 platforms
   Language packs for 15 languages
 
 A summary of downloads for the installs can be found at:
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/timeline
 
 We would like to publicly acknowledge the efforts of our mentors,
 the
  Apache infrastructure team, and the wonderful folks at SourceForge in
 making
  this release a success!
 
 
   - We are currently working on an alternate repository for category-B
 code
  to comply with graduation requirements
   - Prepartion was made in May for importing IBM Symphony changes into the
  OpenOffice repository

 Maybe first say an SGA was received from IBM for IBM Lotus Symphony,
 and now are preparing to import...

 This should be complete by