Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-14 Thread Erich Steinböck
>
> there will be moderating to do when people are going to spam using the
> comments
>
I just visited the Wikis as an un-authenticated user.
Both Wikis are open for read, but nothing more.
I can only see one place in the Wikis, where commenting is possible, but to
leave a comment it says, "Log in  to post a
comment."
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-14 Thread René Jansen
This means there will be moderating to do when people are going to spam using 
the comments.

> On 14 Dec 2018, at 08:57, René Jansen  wrote:
> 
> Ah interesting, we probably did the same action at the same time.
> I left the oorexx5.0.0. closed for anonymous as it contains planning 
> information.
> 
> René
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2018, at 08:42, Erich Steinböck  wrote:
>> 
>> P.O., the Wiki link and read access to the Wiki should now be available to 
>> users even if not authenticated.
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-14 Thread René Jansen
Ah interesting, we probably did the same action at the same time.
I left the oorexx5.0.0. closed for anonymous as it contains planning 
information.

René

> On 14 Dec 2018, at 08:42, Erich Steinböck  wrote:
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> P.O., the Wiki link and read access to the Wiki should now be available to 
> users even if not authenticated.
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-14 Thread Erich Steinböck
P.O., the Wiki link and read access to the Wiki should now be available to
users even if not authenticated.
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-14 Thread René Jansen
Hi P.O.,

you are right of course, it should be like that. I will change it to be like 
that, but I will also start a Confluence instance to see if that can serve the 
purpose better, I am not too happy about what SF offers in this wiki, and I am 
wary of them changing the tooling again so work will be lost like last time 
people invested in it.

Hang on while I try to change it.

René.

> On 14 Dec 2018, at 03:40, P.O. Jonsson  wrote:
> 
> Dear René,
> 
> Is it possible to have a WIKI that is NOT editable on the normal page and the 
> editing appearing only when you login?  I understand the problem with 
> spammers but the information that you need to be logged in to actually 
> navigate to the WIKI is implicit, if you do not know about it you will never 
> find out :-(.
> 
> If a regular user visit the ooRexx Sourceforge page s/he will not even know 
> that there exist a WIKI. I think the information placed in the WIKI is VERY 
> relevant to new user curious to try ooRexx out. When making your own first 
> time compilation of ooRexx (which is a huge step for a newcomer, trust me) 
> you definitively need the information written in the WIKI.
> 
> Please try to find a way to make this information visible to regular 
> non-logged in users.
> 
> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
> P.O. Jonsson
> oor...@jonases.se 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 13.12.2018 um 20:39 schrieb René Jansen > >:
>> 
>> Hi Enrico,
>> 
>> any sourceforge id will suffice; we want people to be logged in because 
>> otherwise the spam multiplies.
>> We need to decide whether this is the best place for a wiki; we lost the 
>> last one dure to a sourceforge change that went unnoticed for too long.
>> 
>> For people who want to add or edit, please let me know, you have to be at 
>> least a project member for that. Reading is for any logged in SourceForge 
>> user.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> 
>> René
>> 
>>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 06:51, Enrico Sorichetti via Oorexx-devel 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I can see 
>>> 
>>> The links 
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ 
 And
 https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/ 
>>> lead to the same place - NO LOGIN REQUIRED
>>>  
>>> But, IMBD(*), I could not find the way to reach the wiki from there 
>>> 
>>> The link
 https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/wiki/Home/ 
 
>>> Lead to the wiki page - LOGIN REQUIRED
>>> 
>>> E
>>> 
>>> (*) I Might Be Dumb
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-13 Thread P.O. Jonsson
Dear René,

Is it possible to have a WIKI that is NOT editable on the normal page and the 
editing appearing only when you login?  I understand the problem with spammers 
but the information that you need to be logged in to actually navigate to the 
WIKI is implicit, if you do not know about it you will never find out :-(.

If a regular user visit the ooRexx Sourceforge page s/he will not even know 
that there exist a WIKI. I think the information placed in the WIKI is VERY 
relevant to new user curious to try ooRexx out. When making your own first time 
compilation of ooRexx (which is a huge step for a newcomer, trust me) you 
definitively need the information written in the WIKI.

Please try to find a way to make this information visible to regular non-logged 
in users.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se



> Am 13.12.2018 um 20:39 schrieb René Jansen :
> 
> Hi Enrico,
> 
> any sourceforge id will suffice; we want people to be logged in because 
> otherwise the spam multiplies.
> We need to decide whether this is the best place for a wiki; we lost the last 
> one dure to a sourceforge change that went unnoticed for too long.
> 
> For people who want to add or edit, please let me know, you have to be at 
> least a project member for that. Reading is for any logged in SourceForge 
> user.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> René
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2018, at 06:51, Enrico Sorichetti via Oorexx-devel 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> From what I can see 
>> 
>> The links 
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ 
>>> And
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/ 
>> lead to the same place - NO LOGIN REQUIRED
>>  
>> But, IMBD(*), I could not find the way to reach the wiki from there 
>> 
>> The link
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/wiki/Home/ 
>>> 
>> Lead to the wiki page - LOGIN REQUIRED
>> 
>> E
>> 
>> (*) I Might Be Dumb
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-13 Thread Gil Barmwater

Enrico,

I have been playing with this now for the last couple of days after 
asking Rene, privately, how to find the WIKI.� From what I have 
determined, the WIKI is only visible if you are logged into SF.� The 
link below that ends with .../wiki/home takes me to a login page for SF 
followed by the home page for the WIKI once I log in.� If I am logged in 
and navigate to the ooRexx project, there is a tab with WIKI on it (may 
be hidden under the ... tab) which does not appear if you are not logged 
into SF.� Perhaps this is a security "feature"?


Gil B.

On 12/13/2018 5:51 AM, Enrico Sorichetti via Oorexx-devel wrote:

From what I can see

The links

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/

And

https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/


lead to the same place - NO LOGIN REQUIRED
But, IMBD(*), I could not find the way to reach the wiki from there

The link

https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/wiki/Home/


Lead to the wiki page - LOGIN REQUIRED

E

(*) I Might Be Dumb



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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-13 Thread René Jansen
Hi Enrico,

any sourceforge id will suffice; we want people to be logged in because 
otherwise the spam multiplies.
We need to decide whether this is the best place for a wiki; we lost the last 
one dure to a sourceforge change that went unnoticed for too long.

For people who want to add or edit, please let me know, you have to be at least 
a project member for that. Reading is for any logged in SourceForge user.

best regards,

René

> On 13 Dec 2018, at 06:51, Enrico Sorichetti via Oorexx-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> From what I can see 
> 
> The links 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ 
>> And
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/ 
> lead to the same place - NO LOGIN REQUIRED
>  
> But, IMBD(*), I could not find the way to reach the wiki from there 
> 
> The link
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/wiki/Home/ 
>> 
> Lead to the wiki page - LOGIN REQUIRED
> 
> E
> 
> (*) I Might Be Dumb
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-13 Thread Enrico Sorichetti via Oorexx-devel
From what I can see 

The links 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ 
> And
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/ 
lead to the same place - NO LOGIN REQUIRED
 
But, IMBD(*), I could not find the way to reach the wiki from there 

The link
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/wiki/Home/ 
> 
Lead to the wiki page - LOGIN REQUIRED

E

(*) I Might Be Dumb

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Link to WIKI

2018-12-13 Thread Erich Steinböck
Hi P.O.

What is the difference between https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ and
> https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/
> And why is the WIKI not available to the users of the main page of ooRexx
> on Sourceforge?
>
For me both https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ and
https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/ lead to the same page.
>From this page, you can access the Wiki by clicking the three dots after
"Code SVN Repository"

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http://www.oorexx.org link to the sourceforge site as
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ and the link to the WIKI on that
> site is broken
>
For me the "SourceForge Site" link works
The "ooRexx Wiki" link is broken.  I'll check who can fix that.
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