Re: [OpenFontLibrary] CC Attribution Share Alike Licence fonts

2009-06-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
ricardo lafuente wrote:
 Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
 I would say no: because of the major issue that Creative Commons
 licenses are designed and used for content and not software.

 CC strongly discourages using a CC combination for software:
 http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Commons_license_for_software.3F


 IMHO we don't want to add extra confusion to the choice of licenses.
   
 
 This is a point that the whole hype around Creative Commons made a lot
 less visible than necessary.
 
 Their choice is probably due to some confusion regarding font licensing,
 like you say -- they seem to come from the design world, and after years
 of seeing commercial licenses, it's fitting that you run for the first
 airhole you'd see when you want to 'go open-source' and escape from the
 proprietary logic.
 
 I'm pretty sure that they'd change their terms if someone would approach
 them and point the caveats like you just did. It looks like a good
 opportunity to get in touch with designers (who come from the other side
 of the fence, in a way), and a great way for OFLB and the OFL to gain
 visibility, maybe?

Hi Ricardo,

You make an excellent point :-)

Is anyone already in contact with them and could ping them about this
issue in a friendly way?  We could imagine a wiki entry of people we'd
like to contact and point out/discuss licensing issues with, what do you
think? They'd probably listen to fellow designers :-)

 Also -- after Ellen Lupton's release and advocacy of the Free Font
 Manifesto* (http://www.designwritingresearch.org/free_fonts.html), the
 design world has become pretty aware of the whole issue of
 open-source/freedom. However, there's not a lot of legal awareness
 inside that ecosystem, which results in confusion such as the one you
 remarked here regarding CC licensing of fonts (which remarkably few
 designers see as software instead of content or artwork).

Indeed, it's great that the awareness is rising, but it's very important
for us to be serious and clear with our policy and not sloppy about
licensing metadata and so on. As Nicolas M. rightfully pointed out
earlier, I also see a big part of the OFLB's scope and purpose as
encouraging such best practises.

 To me at least, it looks like everybody would win if someone from the
 OFLB would approach the guys from the 'League of Movable Type', and --
 who knows -- other designers who are releasing their fonts as freeware.

I agree 100%.

 * which, of course, can be very criticised for its apparent confusion
 between freeware and libre; however, it does clearly state that 'Like
 open source software, the freedom of the fonts shown on this page is
 made explicit through their licensing, which allows other people to not
 only use the fonts but to modify them'.

Cheers,


-- 
Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer
Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary
http://planet.open-fonts.org




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[OpenFontLibrary] CC Attribution Share Alike Licence fonts

2009-06-03 Thread Christopher Fynn
This site http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/ distributes fonts 
under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike Licence

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
Which allows copying, distribution and attributed derivative works under 
the same, similar or a compatible license.


Is this an acceptable license for the Open Font Library?

The terms seem effectively similar to those of SIL's Open Font License.

- Chris