Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Prokoudine > writes: Alexandre> You mean, I need to fetch 7zip for Linux, build it and unpack a file Alexandre> from console using some wretched CLI arguments? Thanks, no :) File Alexandre> Roller worked for me all this time :) No, you most certainly do not want 7zip. You want xz-utils, as was posted earlier in the thread, which is at: git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git Your distribution may have a package for it. Those who haven't heard of xz may have heard of lzma-utils; xz is the new name, now that the file format has magic. It still uses the lzma algorithm for the actual compression. Most sites who had tried out using lzma already have started to switch to xz. One can expect lzma to die out as a file format, leaving gzip, bzip2 and xz as the three common formats. As a side note, the lzma algorithm is also used in the doze world by the 7zip and rar archive formats, which seem to have the market share, there. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
Daniel Glassey wrote: > 2009/8/20 Andrey V. Panov : >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:55:19PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: >>> No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it: git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website... Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment... >>> Incidentally, XZ sounds very much like Russian ХЗ acronym which can be >>> roughly translated as "hell knows" meaning "How do I know?" :) I'm >>> wondering if Andrey realized that :) >>> >>> Alexandre >> No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux >> binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to >> do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this. > > Leading? And it's the first time Alexandre and I (and I would guess > lots of others) have heard of it. How do you expect users on older > OS's to unpack it? Or do you just not want them to see the font? Why > not have a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 as well as this new format? If it is > going to be packaged for Debian/Ubuntu it will need to be repacked > anyway. > > I see that most of the other files in that directory are .bz2 so I > can't see that being a problem. > > Aside from that, good work on the fonts :) Yes, indeed! We somehow got sidetracked by the format issue, so I'll join Daniel in saying thanks again to you Andrey for all the design work and for releasing it widely :-) > Regards, > Daniel Cheers, -- Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary http://planet.open-fonts.org
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
2009/8/21 Andrey V. Panov wrote: > No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux > binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to > do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this. You mean, I need to fetch 7zip for Linux, build it and unpack a file from console using some wretched CLI arguments? Thanks, no :) File Roller worked for me all this time :) Alexandre
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
2009/8/21 Andrey V. Panov wrote: > No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux > binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to > do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this. You mean, I need to fetch 7zip for Linux, build it and unpack a file from console using some wretched CLI arguments? Thanks, no :) File Roller worked for me all this time :) Alexandre
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
2009/8/20 Andrey V. Panov : > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:55:19PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: >> >> > No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it: >> > git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git >> > >> > You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages >> > (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website... >> > Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment... >> >> Incidentally, XZ sounds very much like Russian ХЗ acronym which can be >> roughly translated as "hell knows" meaning "How do I know?" :) I'm >> wondering if Andrey realized that :) >> >> Alexandre > No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux > binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to > do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this. Leading? And it's the first time Alexandre and I (and I would guess lots of others) have heard of it. How do you expect users on older OS's to unpack it? Or do you just not want them to see the font? Why not have a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 as well as this new format? If it is going to be packaged for Debian/Ubuntu it will need to be repacked anyway. I see that most of the other files in that directory are .bz2 so I can't see that being a problem. Aside from that, good work on the fonts :) Regards, Daniel
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:55:19PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > > > No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it: > > git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git > > > > You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages > > (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website... > > Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment... > > Incidentally, XZ sounds very much like Russian ХЗ acronym which can be > roughly translated as "hell knows" meaning "How do I know?" :) I'm > wondering if Andrey realized that :) > > Alexandre No. Xz format is becoming the leading format for compression for Linux binary packages. Slackware already switched to it, Red Hat is going to do this in its rpm format. You may also install 7zip 9.x to unpack this. -- Andrey V. Panov panov /AT/ iacp.dvo.ru http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it: > git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git > > You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages > (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website... > Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment... Incidentally, XZ sounds very much like Russian ХЗ acronym which can be roughly translated as "hell knows" meaning "How do I know?" :) I'm wondering if Andrey realized that :) Alexandre
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/ >>> .tar.xz? What on Earth is that? >> AFAICT it's an improved compression format: >> http://tukaani.org/xz/ >> >> Look for xz-utils: >> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/xz-utils >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xz-utils > > So we have to be using most recent unstable Ubuntu to be able to open > the files now? :) Ha, ha ha, nice one :-) No you just have to be a git expert, which is much easier isn't it: git clone git://ctrl.tukaani.org/xz.git You can grab and build the tarballs from the packages.foo.org pages (right-hand menu) or on the upstream website... Or motivate maintainers for your preferred environment... > Alexandre -- Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary http://planet.open-fonts.org
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: >>> Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/ >> >> .tar.xz? What on Earth is that? > > AFAICT it's an improved compression format: > http://tukaani.org/xz/ > > Look for xz-utils: > http://packages.debian.org/experimental/xz-utils > http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xz-utils So we have to be using most recent unstable Ubuntu to be able to open the files now? :) Alexandre
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Andrey V. > Panov wrote: >> The second beta version of Heuristica fonts is released. This version adds >> kerning for Cyrillic, adds more Cyrillic and other characters (e.g. "Euro"). >> >> Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/ > > .tar.xz? What on Earth is that? AFAICT it's an improved compression format: http://tukaani.org/xz/ Look for xz-utils: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/xz-utils http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xz-utils > Alexandre -- Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer Debian/Ubuntu font teams / OpenFontLibrary http://planet.open-fonts.org
Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Andrey V. Panov wrote: > The second beta version of Heuristica fonts is released. This version adds > kerning for Cyrillic, adds more Cyrillic and other characters (e.g. "Euro"). > > Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/ .tar.xz? What on Earth is that? Alexandre
[OpenFontLibrary] Heuristica 0.2
The second beta version of Heuristica fonts is released. This version adds kerning for Cyrillic, adds more Cyrillic and other characters (e.g. "Euro"). Link to download: ftp://ftp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/heuristica/ -- Andrey V. Panov http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/
