Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 18:28 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: > 2008/8/27 Alexandre Prokoudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Thanks god I do not work for any hosting company. Alex, I did not mean to be evil in my statement. I understand the issue at hand and I seriously appreciate all the work you are doing to resolve this. I apologize for my pushy statement. > I spoke to Alex on IM about it. > > Alex paid the registrar but they had changed the registration fee, > without notifying him, so it turned out he didn't pay enough. But they > still updated it, 8 days after payment. However, the DNS is pointing > to their holding page. He is waiting for them to fix it, and then when > it is fixed, he will move it somewhere else. Ok, so there isn't really any way to speed this up by them rather than just waiting on the registrar to do something? > I hope he'll post on the list and we can agree on what the best host > is going to be moving forward. I guess hooking into freedesktop.org's > registrar/DNS would be good > > Dave Yes, probably easiest to add to one of our own stable hosting providers that acts quicker. My offer still stands on using mine. FD.o will move at a glacial pace as we have seen before. Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/8/27 Alexandre Prokoudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thanks god I do not work for any hosting company. I spoke to Alex on IM about it. Alex paid the registrar but they had changed the registration fee, without notifying him, so it turned out he didn't pay enough. But they still updated it, 8 days after payment. However, the DNS is pointing to their holding page. He is waiting for them to fix it, and then when it is fixed, he will move it somewhere else. I hope he'll post on the list and we can agree on what the best host is going to be moving forward. I guess hooking into freedesktop.org's registrar/DNS would be good Dave ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
Jon, Thanks god I do not work for any hosting company. One cannot get _me_ to finish this. Please stop it. Alexandre On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Jon Phillips wrote: > I think better to just get Alexandre to finish fixing this issue. I mean > use htaccess to password protect so we don't unduly redirect traffic. > > Jon ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
I think better to just get Alexandre to finish fixing this issue. I mean use htaccess to password protect so we don't unduly redirect traffic. Jon On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 18:01 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: > 2008/8/27 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> Given our domain is down, perhaps we should treat Nicolas' > >> open-fonts.org as a mirror of oflb.org - and then Nicolas can get it > >> set up as he thinks would be good? :-) > > > > I would prefer to not create multiple impact points on the planet for > > splitting traffic, unless behind an htaccess...of course, if we don't > > hear back from alexandre! then we won't have a choice... > > As a mirror, the URLs would be the same, and a .htaccess would > silently redirect people to the main domain once it is going again. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection#Using_.htaccess_for_Redirection -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/8/27 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Given our domain is down, perhaps we should treat Nicolas' >> open-fonts.org as a mirror of oflb.org - and then Nicolas can get it >> set up as he thinks would be good? :-) > > I would prefer to not create multiple impact points on the planet for > splitting traffic, unless behind an htaccess...of course, if we don't > hear back from alexandre! then we won't have a choice... As a mirror, the URLs would be the same, and a .htaccess would silently redirect people to the main domain once it is going again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection#Using_.htaccess_for_Redirection ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 17:40 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: > 2008/8/27 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> If you give me access to the OFLB svn I can push there :-) > >> Or maybe I'll host a bzr branch somewhere. > > > > Hmmm...we don't have current SVN, but should setup... > > Given our domain is down, perhaps we should treat Nicolas' > open-fonts.org as a mirror of oflb.org - and then Nicolas can get it > set up as he thinks would be good? :-) I would prefer to not create multiple impact points on the planet for splitting traffic, unless behind an htaccess...of course, if we don't hear back from alexandre! then we won't have a choice... Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/8/27 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> If you give me access to the OFLB svn I can push there :-) >> Or maybe I'll host a bzr branch somewhere. > > Hmmm...we don't have current SVN, but should setup... Given our domain is down, perhaps we should treat Nicolas' open-fonts.org as a mirror of oflb.org - and then Nicolas can get it set up as he thinks would be good? :-) ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 16:55 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > >> I have ported the OFL integration code to work with the current svn > >> trunk of cchost. But yes there still things the devs need to finish > >> before releasing v5. Also the font preview issue is the major blocker. > >> > >> We could use the server I host the planet on for testing. > > > > Where is this code at? > > [...] > > I intend to retest with the current CC-host trunk before distributing > the OFL integration code. Also experimented with code for other > licensing models. > > If you give me access to the OFLB svn I can push there :-) > Or maybe I'll host a bzr branch somewhere. Hmmm...we don't have current SVN, but should setup...can you send patch across the interwebs or file bug with...not sure if ccHost would ship with, but more than likely we shoudl have an SVN of our extras folder for thigns like this for OFLB... Cheers! > Cheers, > > > Jon > > ___ > Openfontlibrary mailing list > Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
>> I have ported the OFL integration code to work with the current svn >> trunk of cchost. But yes there still things the devs need to finish >> before releasing v5. Also the font preview issue is the major blocker. >> >> We could use the server I host the planet on for testing. > > Where is this code at? [...] I intend to retest with the current CC-host trunk before distributing the OFL integration code. Also experimented with code for other licensing models. If you give me access to the OFLB svn I can push there :-) Or maybe I'll host a bzr branch somewhere. Cheers, > Jon -- Nicolas Spalinger signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/8/10 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> ccHost trunk doesn't seem maintained stably enough for use like that. > > Its pretty stable. Its running on ccmixter right now and Greg and I from > cc have been poking at it. I'm gonna do an export and import into cchost > 5 on test site and see what is up. Okay great! :-) Keep the list posted : ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 13:50 +0100, Dave Crossland wrote: > 2008/8/9 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > I have been waiting for ccHost 5 to be released; its currently in beta > >> > and the design is complete but it still has many bugs. > > > > Where is this code at? I don't see the previewer as blocker to moving to > > v5 > > We have no previewer in v4 so no, not having one in v5 is not a blocker :-) > > > or rather cchost trunk :) > > ccHost trunk doesn't seem maintained stably enough for use like that. > > Ben says he's going to have a look at things, and I'm sure he'll drop > the list a note if/when he has something to say :-) Its pretty stable. Its running on ccmixter right now and Greg and I from cc have been poking at it. I'm gonna do an export and import into cchost 5 on test site and see what is up. > Cheers, > Dave -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/8/9 Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > I have been waiting for ccHost 5 to be released; its currently in beta >> > and the design is complete but it still has many bugs. > > Where is this code at? I don't see the previewer as blocker to moving to > v5 We have no previewer in v4 so no, not having one in v5 is not a blocker :-) > or rather cchost trunk :) ccHost trunk doesn't seem maintained stably enough for use like that. Ben says he's going to have a look at things, and I'm sure he'll drop the list a note if/when he has something to say :-) Cheers, Dave ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 16:03 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > Dave Crossland wrote: > > 2008/7/24 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Is there any reason why an option for GPL + Font Exception or even for > >> GPL is not included? > > > > Lack of developer time. > > I'd say it's also a question of agreeing on the policy. > > I'd vote against unclear PD, pure GPL as options as it will cause future > problems. And we really need to clarify the troubles with the current > font exception for GPL-ed fonts too. > Also do we need to allow Vera-style licensing? MIT/X11/Expat? Some type > of CC? Licensing proliferation is pretty bad. > > > BTW, impressive work on the Jomolhari font :-) > Thanks for releasing it along with your VOLT sources! > (You may want to double-check the description metadata field as it > refers to GPL, which is apparently not what you intended). > > > > I have been waiting for ccHost 5 to be released; its currently in beta > > and the design is complete but it still has many bugs. > > > > We also have a problem giving volunteers access to the server; someone > > ought to write a tutorial for how anyone can set up a staging server > > to do development with so they can submit patches to the developers > > with accounts (myself, Jon Philips, Alexandre Prokoudine, I think - > > not sure who else :-) > > I have ported the OFL integration code to work with the current svn > trunk of cchost. But yes there still things the devs need to finish > before releasing v5. Also the font preview issue is the major blocker. > > We could use the server I host the planet on for testing. Where is this code at? I don't see the previewer as blocker to moving to v5 or rather cchost trunk :) Of course having it would be great... Jon > BTW the wiki seems to be hit by spam again: > http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges > > ___ > Openfontlibrary mailing list > Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA + Guangzhou + Beijing GLOBAL +1.415.830.3884 CHINA +86.1.360.282.8624 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rejon.org IM/skype: kidproto Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/7/24 George Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> I'd vote against unclear PD, > > Um... given that there are already a bunch of fonts released under "PD" > isn't it a bit late to remove it? I guess we'll just have to have an American resubmit those fonts with a globally-valid no-terms license ;-) -- Regards, Dave ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 07:03, Nicolas Spalinger wrote: > Dave Crossland wrote: > > 2008/7/24 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Is there any reason why an option for GPL + Font Exception or even for > >> GPL is not included? > > > > Lack of developer time. > > I'd say it's also a question of agreeing on the policy. > > I'd vote against unclear PD, Um... given that there are already a bunch of fonts released under "PD" isn't it a bit late to remove it? Or did you mean something else and I'm misunderstanding? ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/7/24 Nicolas Spalinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'd say it's also a question of agreeing on the policy. AIUI, current OFLB policy is "what people contribute." > I'd vote against unclear PD, pure GPL as options as it will cause future > problems. I'm happy for any free software font to be contributed to OFLB, and then to make the OFLB UI highlight non-best-practice submissions, and the "oflb font set" that Jon has talked about (that we would offer to GNU/Linux distros) would only include the ones following best practices. Broad input and narrow output, as the saying goes. > And we really need to clarify the troubles with the current font > exception for GPL-ed fonts too. We do, but thats a separate issue. > Also do we need to allow Vera-style licensing? MIT/X11/Expat? Some type of > CC? Licensing proliferation is pretty bad. These are all free; I think if we get people submitting fonts with those licenses, we will have a point of contact to start a discussion with them about following best practices. If we don't accept their submissions, we might never get that discussion going. > BTW, impressive work on the Jomolhari font :-) +1! :-) > We could use the server I host the planet on for testing. That's a great idea :-) > BTW the wiki seems to be hit by spam again: > http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges Noted... Dave ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
Dave Crossland wrote: 2008/7/24 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Is there any reason why an option for GPL + Font Exception or even for GPL is not included? Lack of developer time. I'd say it's also a question of agreeing on the policy. I'd vote against unclear PD, pure GPL as options as it will cause future problems. And we really need to clarify the troubles with the current font exception for GPL-ed fonts too. Also do we need to allow Vera-style licensing? MIT/X11/Expat? Some type of CC? Licensing proliferation is pretty bad. BTW, impressive work on the Jomolhari font :-) Thanks for releasing it along with your VOLT sources! (You may want to double-check the description metadata field as it refers to GPL, which is apparently not what you intended). I have been waiting for ccHost 5 to be released; its currently in beta and the design is complete but it still has many bugs. We also have a problem giving volunteers access to the server; someone ought to write a tutorial for how anyone can set up a staging server to do development with so they can submit patches to the developers with accounts (myself, Jon Philips, Alexandre Prokoudine, I think - not sure who else :-) I have ported the OFL integration code to work with the current svn trunk of cchost. But yes there still things the devs need to finish before releasing v5. Also the font preview issue is the major blocker. We could use the server I host the planet on for testing. BTW the wiki seems to be hit by spam again: http://openfontlibrary.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges -- Nicolas Spalinger http://scripts.sil.org http://pkg-fonts.alioth.debian.org/ https://launchpad.net/people/fonts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
Re: [Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
2008/7/24 Christopher Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Is there any reason why an option for GPL + Font Exception or even for > GPL is not included? Lack of developer time. I have been waiting for ccHost 5 to be released; its currently in beta and the design is complete but it still has many bugs. We also have a problem giving volunteers access to the server; someone ought to write a tutorial for how anyone can set up a staging server to do development with so they can submit patches to the developers with accounts (myself, Jon Philips, Alexandre Prokoudine, I think - not sure who else :-) -- Regards, Dave ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
[Openfontlibrary] GPL with Font Exception?
I see some fonts in the Open Font Library are licensed under GPL - yet in the Submit Font form the only two options available are OFL and PD. Is there any reason why an option for GPL + Font Exception or even for GPL is not included? - Particularly as the site already contains GPL'd fonts. - Chris ___ Openfontlibrary mailing list Openfontlibrary@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openfontlibrary
