Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-03 Thread Jon Phillips
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On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 18:53 +0200, Victor Stone wrote:
> (it should be noted that my posts are being bounced by OFLB list - I'm
> x-posting to cchost because of relevant info)
> 
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [condensing several messages]
> >
> > Jon Phillips wrote:
> >>
> >> It would be great to get this somewhere public before weekend is over.
> >>>
> >>> > IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> >>> > some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> >>> > from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
> >>>
> >> Yes, right, but nothing core ccHost was modified. Everything is just
> >> skins, plugins, and xml files.
> >>
> >
> > OK, good to hear that ;-) Even if they don't all work  in v5.
> 
> Actually 'nothing' is too strong a word - compared to the skins (a
> complete redo) the changes to core should be low impact. However,
> there ARE changes to core that will affect many plugins - like events
> that are no longer being triggered on very upload record.
> 
> Again - point me at code and I can spot them in seconds.
> 
> >>
> >> You can add filetypes in the admin pages.
> >
> > Right: may I ask: add as in add to the list of filetypes or as in pick 1-n
> > choices from a list of predefined filetypes?
> 
> Filetypes should be added in the psuedo-verifier from the admin
> screens - this was a late add to v4 and nothing has changed. I know
> devs are quick to jump into php code to add file types but this is a
> really big mistake (not that it costs lives or anything, just a time
> waster).
> 
> VS
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Ben Weiner
Hi all,

[condensing several messages]

Jon Phillips wrote:
>
> It would be great to get this somewhere public before weekend is over.
>
>   
>> > IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
>> > some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
>> > from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
>> 
>
> Yes, right, but nothing core ccHost was modified. Everything is just
> skins, plugins, and xml files.
>   
OK, good to hear that ;-) Even if they don't all work  in v5.
> You can add filetypes in the admin pages. 
>   
Right: may I ask: add as in add to the list of filetypes or as in pick 
1-n choices from a list of predefined filetypes?

> On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 13:57 +0200, Victor Stone wrote:
>   
>> /topposting/
>> If someone can  show me the code for the v4 version I can quickly
>> point out what needs to be done for v5.
>>
>> VS
>> 
>
> Ok, I don't think big changes happened, but will know more once I get
> into the thick of it...sat/sun..
Excellent. There are two things happening to OFL at the moment, and they 
are interdependent.

- The site is migrating, with the functionality extensions over the 
default, from v4 to v5. That's a task for people who actually know how 
cchost works.
- Markedly different UX and a very different editorial drift are being 
introduced with the next version of the site. That's a task for me in 
the first instance.

This is not entirely an exercise in upgrading a cchost install, but I 
would be delighted for that to happen before my work gets too far advanced.

Not sure whether this is a good point to stop cross-posting to 
cctools-cchost so I will.

Best wishes,
Ben
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Jon Phillips


Other thing is if any/all you guys hang out in #openclipart, maybe
easier to knock out things this weekend...

Jon


On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 12:04 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> Dave Crossland wrote:
> > 2008/10/2 Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> can you tell me the degree to
> >> which cchost 4 was hacked (ie, the through-the-web interface
> >> was not used) to set it up for OFL? I'm really struggling, in
> >> the absence of docs, to get my head around cchost 5.
> > 
> > AFAIK the only significant delta between ccHost 4 release and OFLB's
> > ccHost is that the OFL license plugin was added, and the text in the
> > theme was changed to be about fonts instead of music. Alex and Nicolas
> > might also be able to comment on this.
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
> integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
> path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).
> 
> IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
> 
> Could someone with access to the OFLB server please provide a dump of
> the current db (and a tarball of the vhost) so we can look at the
> configuration? Thanks.
> 
> >> the v4 docs pages warning me that v5 will be different!
> > 
> > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help
> 
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Jon Phillips
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 13:57 +0200, Victor Stone wrote:
> /topposting/
> If someone can  show me the code for the v4 version I can quickly
> point out what needs to be done for v5.
> 
> VS

Ok, I don't think big changes happened, but will know more once I get
into the thick of it...sat/sun...

Jon

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
> >> integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
> >> path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).
> >>
> >
> > I may not need it in publishable condition...
> >>
> >> IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> >> some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> >> from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
> >>
> >
> > OK. For starters, I'm looking for a method in the TTW interface that allows
> > me to add file types. Is that part of your patch?
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help
> >>>
> >
> > Only if you know 4. I was /hoping/ to skip it ;-)
> >
> > Thanks all,
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Jon Phillips
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 11:23 +0100, Ben Weiner wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
> > integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
> > path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).
> >   
> I may not need it in publishable condition...
> > IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> > some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> > from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
> >   
> OK. For starters, I'm looking for a method in the TTW interface that 
> allows me to add file types. Is that part of your patch?
> >> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help
> >> 
> Only if you know 4. I was /hoping/ to skip it ;-)

You can add filetypes in the admin pages. 

Jon

> Thanks all,
> 
> Ben
> 
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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Jon Phillips
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 12:04 +0200, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> Dave Crossland wrote:
> > 2008/10/2 Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> can you tell me the degree to
> >> which cchost 4 was hacked (ie, the through-the-web interface
> >> was not used) to set it up for OFL? I'm really struggling, in
> >> the absence of docs, to get my head around cchost 5.
> > 
> > AFAIK the only significant delta between ccHost 4 release and OFLB's
> > ccHost is that the OFL license plugin was added, and the text in the
> > theme was changed to be about fonts instead of music. Alex and Nicolas
> > might also be able to comment on this.
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
> integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
> path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).

It would be great to get this somewhere public before weekend is over.

> IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.

Yes, right, but nothing core ccHost was modified. Everything is just
skins, plugins, and xml files.

> Could someone with access to the OFLB server please provide a dump of
> the current db (and a tarball of the vhost) so we can look at the
> configuration? Thanks.

I can't get to until sat. beijing time. Is this ok?
> 
> >> the v4 docs pages warning me that v5 will be different!
> > 
> > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help

Tis true! If you post up what you have done publicly somewhere, then I
can look at as well...

I want to do the move to ccHost 5 and see where we are at...victor
showed me how before, so I just need to do a test of...and doing OFLB
might be much easier before doing OCAL...

Jon

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Ben Weiner
Hi there,

Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
> integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
> path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).
>   
I may not need it in publishable condition...
> IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
> some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
> from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.
>   
OK. For starters, I'm looking for a method in the TTW interface that 
allows me to add file types. Is that part of your patch?
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help
>> 
Only if you know 4. I was /hoping/ to skip it ;-)

Thanks all,

Ben

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/10/2 Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> can you tell me the degree to
>> which cchost 4 was hacked (ie, the through-the-web interface
>> was not used) to set it up for OFL? I'm really struggling, in
>> the absence of docs, to get my head around cchost 5.
> 
> AFAIK the only significant delta between ccHost 4 release and OFLB's
> ccHost is that the OFL license plugin was added, and the text in the
> theme was changed to be about fonts instead of music. Alex and Nicolas
> might also be able to comment on this.


Hi guys,

I should have time this week-end to clean up and publish my OFL
integration patch along with some installation documentation... (A few
path and variables had to be adjusted against v5 trunk).

IIRC there were other changes in the rest of the site:
some xml files (like guidelines.xml) were also modified to turn ccHost
from a music-oriented site to a fonts-oriented site.

Could someone with access to the OFLB server please provide a dump of
the current db (and a tarball of the vhost) so we can look at the
configuration? Thanks.

>> the v4 docs pages warning me that v5 will be different!
> 
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help

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Re: [Openfontlibrary] cchost5 and OFL

2008-10-02 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/10/2 Ben Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> can you tell me the degree to
> which cchost 4 was hacked (ie, the through-the-web interface
> was not used) to set it up for OFL? I'm really struggling, in
> the absence of docs, to get my head around cchost 5.

AFAIK the only significant delta between ccHost 4 release and OFLB's
ccHost is that the OFL license plugin was added, and the text in the
theme was changed to be about fonts instead of music. Alex and Nicolas
might also be able to comment on this.

> the v4 docs pages warning me that v5 will be different!

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Preparing_for_ccHost_5.0 may help
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