Re: LiveOIO-1.0.0.rc2 released

2003-10-11 Thread Heitzso
I greatly appreciate a live-cd demo of a product, and the
idea of being able to easily install to a computer is great.
However, I have a question-caution.  Do you have a clean
version update and security update mechanism in place?  I'm
aware that knoppix is pieced from several sources and your
LiveOIO will be pieced from even more sources.  So my
question becomes, Do you have an apt and apt-sources setup
such that you can smoothly handle security and version
upgrades via apt?  Or, if someone installs to a computer
can they easily and safely upgrade the entire setup via
the 'apt-get update/upgrade' mechanism?
Thanks,
Heitzso
Andrew Ho wrote:
Dear colleagues,
  I have uploaded a new version of LiveOIO to Sourceforge. You can
download it from
  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9295
LiveOIO-1.0.0.rc2 includes OIO-1.0.1 and an improved interface for
starting the OIO Server. Instead of typing startOIO into a
shell-terminal window, simply click on the OIO Server Start icon on the
KDE Desktop.  There is also an OIO Connect icon that launches the
Mozilla browser and directly opens OIO's pink interface, without the need
to manually entering the URL and username/password.
The entire process of running OIO on any PC now only involves 2
mouse-clicks after booting the CD! Installing to hard-drive still only
requires opening a shell-terminal window and typing knx-hdinstall.
I have also included 1 form (Meeting), 1 schedule, 1 workflow, and 2
patients. I think it is helpful to include more forms on LiveOIO. Please
send me forms that you think will be worthwhile including. Anything that I
receive by Oct 16, 2003 will have a good chance of becoming part of
LiveOIO-1.0.0. My estimate is to include somewhere between 20-30 forms.
Current aim is to release LiveOIO-1.0.0.final by Oct 17, 2003 - a week
from now. We have time to do .rc3 if someone finds a serious bug.
Dennis Halladay's new date, date_time, time component should make it into
LiveOIO-1.0.0.final. Vadim and Alex's fracture classification wizard may
also make it.
Per Mark's strong recommendation, Frozen-Bubble is once again included. I
sacrificed the Selflinux documentation (18 mb) since it was entirely in
German. :-)
Best regards,

Andrew




Re: LiveOIO-1.0.0.rc2 released

2003-10-11 Thread Andrew Ho
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Heitzso wrote:
...
 However, I have a question-caution.  Do you have a clean
 version update and security update mechanism in place?

LiveOIO is Knoppix with the addition of a few more Debian packages
(PostgreSQL, Zope, etc) + OIO. All packages with the exception of OIO can
be upgraded via Debian's existing apt-get infrastructure. For now, OIO can
be upgraded by downloading the newest OIO package from our Sourceforge
file area.

 I'm aware that knoppix is pieced from several sources and your LiveOIO
 will be pieced from even more sources.

As far as I know, Knoppix can be upgraded via Debian's apt utility. If the
upgrade does not work, then it is considered a bug and should be reported.
:-)

 So my question becomes, Do you have an apt and apt-sources setup such
 that you can smoothly handle security and version upgrades via apt?

Yes, except for OIO - since we don't have a Debian package for OIO yet.
That part of the upgrade is still not automated.

 Or, if someone installs to a computer can they easily and safely upgrade
 the entire setup via the 'apt-get update/upgrade' mechanism?

The answer is yes. But, probability of failure may depend on whether you
are running Debian stable, testing, unstable, or mixture :-).

Upgrading has always been a challenge. Debian, in my opinion, handles
upgrades in the most robust way among all the Linux distributions.
However, it is often difficult to stay completely with Debian stable.
For example, Knoppix is not 100% Debian stable.

Best regards,

Andrew
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Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
www.TxOutcome.Org