[osol-discuss] Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
I have installed mysql,Apache.Install pkg-get from BlastWave and test by using 
pkg-get to install the gnu autoconf, automake ,gsed and libxml2 packages.
then i download php-5.2.1.tar.gz
# gunzip -cd  php-5.2.1.tar.gz | gtar xvpf -
   ...
# cd  php-5.2.1   
#./configure --with-apxs2=/usr/apache2/bin/apxs --with-mysql=/usr/sfw 
--enable-dbase --with-libxml-dir=/usr/local 
--with-config-file-path=/etc/apache2
#gmake
BUT,ERROR OCCURED:
 Undefined  symbol first referenced in file
 libiconv_close  ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
 libiconv_open   ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
 libiconvext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
 ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to sapi/cli/php
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  gmake: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1

I have set 
path=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/ccs/bin
and install package libiconv1.9.2 from BlastWave,but error still exist.i don't 
know what's wrong :(
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
yoyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have installed mysql,Apache.Install pkg-get from BlastWave and test by 
 using pkg-get to install the gnu autoconf, automake ,gsed and libxml2 
 packages.
 then i download php-5.2.1.tar.gz
 # gunzip -cd  php-5.2.1.tar.gz | gtar xvpf -
...
 # cd  php-5.2.1   
 #./configure --with-apxs2=/usr/apache2/bin/apxs --with-mysql=/usr/sfw 
 --enable-dbase --with-libxml-dir=/usr/local 
 --with-config-file-path=/etc/apache2
 #gmake
 BUT,ERROR OCCURED:
  Undefined  symbol first referenced in file
  libiconv_close  ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  libiconv_open   ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  libiconvext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to sapi/cli/php
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
   gmake: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1

 I have set 
 path=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/ccs/bin
 and install package libiconv1.9.2 from BlastWave,but error still exist.i 
 don't know what's wrong :(

libiconv() ... are the wrong symbols, they are GNUisms that officially do not
exist.

It looks like you did include the wrong include file (e.g. 
/opt/csw/include/iconv.h) instead if /usr/include/iconv.h

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Re: [osol-discuss] ISO of a 16 channel sata2 controller..

2007-06-26 Thread Giles Turner

On 6/26/07, Andrew R Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm looking to build a raid array consisting of up to 16 sata drivers.

Are there any cards out there that will work under OS that can handle
upwards of 16?


Yes. Once port-multiplier support is in the drivers. You could attach
4 4-bay SATA cages to a 4 port card that supports port-multipliers but
it will only work with Windows for now.
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[osol-discuss] Re: ISO of a 16 channel sata2 controller..

2007-06-26 Thread Bob Palowoda
 div id=jive-html-wrapper-div
 brdiv brI'm looking to build a raid
 array consisting of up to 16 sata
 drivers.brbrAre there any cards out there that
 will work under OS that can handle upwards of
  16?brbrbrThanks!br/div
 /div___


 You didn't mention if it was for Sparc or x86 but Areca makes SATAII 
controllers 
for Solaris x86 with 16 ports.  PCI-X and PCI-E 
http://www.areca.us/

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[osol-discuss] Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
how can i modify the include file?! i install php according the artical step by 
step.error occured step 6.but i didn't set the include file.

PHP for Apache2 on Solaris 10

Version 1.02 January 23, 2006

by: Mel Lester Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

   1. Log into the global zone as root and ensure that /opt/csw/bin and 
/usr/sfw/bin are in $PATH

  global# echo $PATH
  
/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/dt/bin:/usr/ccs/bin

   2. Install pkg-get from BlastWave and test by using pkg-get to install the 
gnu autoconf,
 automake and gsed packages.

  global# pkg-get -i autoconf
  ...
  global# which autoconf  autoconf --version | head -2
  /opt/csw/bin/autoconf
  autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59
  Written by David J. MacKenzie and Akim Demaille.

  global# pkg-get -i automake
  ...
  global# which automake  automake --version | head -2
  /opt/csw/bin/automake
  automake (GNU automake) 1.8.3
  Written by Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED].

  global# pkg-get -i gsed
  ...
  global# which gsed  gsed --version | head -2
  /opt/csw/bin/gsed
  GNU sed version 4.1.4
  Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

   3. Verify availability of other Open Source Software Required to install PHP.

  global# which gcc  gcc --version | head -2
  /usr/sfw/bin/gcc
  gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 (csl-sol210-3_4-branch+sol_rpath)
  Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

  global# which gmake  gmake --version | head -2
  /usr/sfw/bin/gmake
  GNU Make 3.80
  Copyright (C) 2002  Free Software Foundation, Inc.

  global# which flex  flex --version | head -2
  /usr/sfw/bin/flex
  flex version 2.5.4

  global# which bison  bison --version | head -2
  /usr/sfw/bin/bison
  bison (GNU Bison) 1.875
  Written by Robert Corbett and Richard Stallman.

  global#  which gm4  gm4 --version | head -2
  /opt/csw/bin/gm4
  GNU M4 1.4.3
  Written by Rene' Seindal.

  global# which perl  perl -v | head -2
  /opt/csw/bin/perl

  This is perl, v5.8.7 built for sun4-solaris-thread-multi

  global# which gunzip  gunzip -V | head -2
  /usr/bin/gunzip
  gunzip 1.3.3-patch.1
  (2002-03-08)

  global# which gtar  gtar --version | head -2
  /usr/sfw/bin/gtar
  tar (GNU tar) 1.14
  Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.


   4. Test the Open Source tools by builing libxml2 from source:

  Download the latest version from: xmlsoft.org

   global#gunzip -cd libxml2-2.6.23.tar.gz | gtar xvpf -
   global#cd libxml2-2.6.23
   global#./configure
   ...
   global#gmake
   ...
   global#gmake install
   ...


   5. If the file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf doesn't exist:

global# cp /etc/apache2/httpd.conf-example /etc/apache2/httpd.conf


  Edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
  * Set ServerName if necessary (default is 127.0.0.1)
  * Set ServerAdmin to a valid email address 

   6. Download and Compile the latest production version of PHP.

global# pwd
/build
global# gunzip -cd  php-5.1.2.tar.gz | gtar xvpf -
...
global# cd  php-5.1.2
global# ./configure --with-apxs2=/usr/apache2/bin/apxs 
--with-mysql=/usr/sfw --enable-dbase --with-libxml-dir=/usr/local   
  --with-config-file-path=/etc/apache2
...
global# gmake   
...
global# gmake install   
Installing PHP SAPI module:   apache2handler
 var/apache2/build/instdso.sh 
SH_LIBTOOL='/var/apache2/build/libtool'libphp5.la
/usr/apache2/libexec
/var/apache2/build/libtool --mode=install cp libphp5.la 
/usr/apache2/libexec/
cp .libs/libphp5.so /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
chmod +x /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
cp .libs/libphp5.lai /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.la
libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish 
/build/php-5.1.2/libs'
chmod 755 /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
[activating module `php5' in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf]
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
  program: phpize
  program: php-config
Installing man pages: /usr/local/man/man1/
  page: phpize.1
  page: php-config.1
Installing PEAR environment:  /usr/local/lib/php/
[PEAR] Archive_Tar- installed: 1.3.1
[PEAR] Console_Getopt - installed: 1.2
pear/PEAR can optionally use package pear/XML_RPC (version = 1.4.0)
[PEAR] PEAR   - installed: 1.4.6
Wrote PEAR system config file 

[osol-discuss] Re: Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-26 Thread Bob Palowoda
 Steven Sim wrote:
  Folks;
  
  Today Sun BIG ADMIN website posted an article by
 Lynne Thompson entitled 
  What's New in Patching 
  
  See
 http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/sundocs/articles/patch-wn.
 jsp
  
  Could somebody here elaborate more on the following
 statement
  
  .Now, deferred-activation patching uses
 the loopback file 
  system (lofs) to ensure the stability of the
 running system. When a 
  patch is applied to the running system, the lofs
 preserves stability 
  during the patching process. These large kernel
 patches have always 
  required a reboot, but now the required reboot
 activates the changes 
  made by the lofs...
  
  It's a bit confusing..especially the part about
 lofs preserves 
  stability during the patching process
  
 
 Hopefully I can get one of those who actually did the
 work to post a 
 blog entry about it.  Anyway, the executables and
 libraries which need 
 to remain stable during the entire duration of the
 patching application 
 and would be affected by the patch operation are
 copied into a temporary 
 location, lofs is used to mount them up into the
 original location, and 
 then we can patch the originals without adversely
 affecting the binaries 
 in use.  You must reboot at the end of such a patch
 application to get 
 the system back into a consistent state.
 
 Live Upgrade for patching is still recommended, since
 it's at least as 
 safe and doesn't require quiescing the system to
 apply such patches, but 
 this provides an alternative when that is not an
 option.
 

 Is this the new patching scheme that is going to be open sourced for project 
Indiana?

---Bob
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
i have installed it successful before,follow this article.
today ,i want to install it to none-global zone,error occured.then i try to 
install it to global zone again,but same error still occured.
it's so strange~
 Oh it's more than that.  He is in autoconf and
  libtool hell. What is worse is mixing 
 o many different environments during the compile. 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-26 Thread Casper . Dik


Does a community group have the power to decide that a monetary
prize is awarded to whoever comes up with the winner?

If they come up with the money, yes.  If they don't come up with
the money, of course not.

OpenSolaris has no finances and therefor no budget.

And further to that, does the community group have the power to
award that kind of prize in OpenSolaris's name?

Is there such a thing?

Or to put it differently, if such a decision was made by the community
and activity understaken that this would happen, who would sign
the cheque for the prize winner on behalf of OpenSolaris?

Someone from the OGB or someone else?

OpenSolaris has no cash, so it would be someone from Sun if Sun sponsored 
it or else whoever collected the money.

 From the very start of this, my position has been that getting this
to properly motivate people requires a competition with a prize at
the end and that for this reason it requires more thought than the
community just doing it.

And yes, I feel that some kind of prize or reward is essential, otherwise
we don't stand a very good chance of getting the right result unless we
fluke it and someone already is or someone knows someone who'll do
it for free.  It in this case being a professionally designed logo or
cartoon'd mascot.

Well, come up with a plan on how to finance that first.

Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  libiconv() ... are the wrong symbols, they are
  GNUisms that officially do not
  exist.
  
  It looks like you did include the wrong include file
  (e.g. 
  /opt/csw/include/iconv.h) instead if
  /usr/include/iconv.h
  

  Oh it's more than that.  He is in autoconf and libtool hell. What is worse 
 is mixing 
 so many different environments during the compile. 

Well, autoconf is OK. The problem is libtool. Libtool does not properly manage 
the library search PATH, it works only correctly if all libs are located in 
/usr/lib 
or if there is a ld.so config setup that creates global librerary search 
extensions.

In many cases libtool can be made to work by defining LD_LIBRARY_PATH and 
LD_RUN_PATH before falling configure and make. But build systems that are 
based on libtool are still not user friendly as they do not do what they 
promise: automated compilation.




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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-26 Thread Casper . Dik


I should clarify, my wording was poor... the OGB should only approve if 
it is pursued as an appeals path.  If there is overwhelming approval for 
whatever the CG arrives (reflected by a vote, or some other mechanism), 
then I don't think the OGB needs to certify or vote on anything.


Nor does it seem to have the power to overrule the community.

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[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-26 Thread Casper . Dik


Is making OpenSolaris a non profit organisation on the
agenda of the OGB?  Or do I need to create some other
community to do that?


No.

Making OpenSolaris a non-profit organization is a daunting task;
it also comes with a financial burden and liability for the OGB
members (and I would not care to be on the OGB were that the case)

Casper

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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
i find iconv.h both in /opt/csw/lib and /usr/local/lib.
i didn't know how to add  LD_LIBRARY_PATH .
   is it edit /etc/profile,add line:
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
?? i have add this,but no use.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061807-zfs-on-linux.html

2007-06-26 Thread Aubrey Li

On 6/25/07, carlos antonio neira bustos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

one of the jewels has been stolen ...


Don't keep so many ramparts, Please. If one day a new operating system
is born including all of the Jewels of solaris and linux, I think we
should cheer.

-Aubrey
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Bob Palowoda
 i find iconv.h both in /opt/csw/lib and
 /usr/local/lib.
 i didn't know how to add  LD_LIBRARY_PATH .
is it edit /etc/profile,add line:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
 i have add this,but no use.

 I would advise not to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  Rather set your LDFLAGS -L and -R 
paths
before compiling.  And your going to have to make up your mind on a single 
environment
path you want to compile against.  Your mixing too many environments.

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[osol-discuss] Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-26 Thread Steve
Hello All

Here is some more info as I am back on the server now.
The issue is with  [b]/app[/b]

[b]/var/adm/message[/b]
Jun 26 09:34:18 server ufs: [ID 845546 kern.notice] NOTICE: alloc: /app: file 
system full
Jun 26 09:35:00  server ufs: [ID 213553 kern.notice] NOTICE: realloccg /app: 
file system full

[b]#df -k[/b]
.
.
/dsk/c0t2d0s745851027 41140424 471060390%/app
[b]
# df -h[/b] 
...
...
/dsk/c0t2d0s7   44G39G   4.5G90%/app


[b]# df -F ufs -oi[/b]
/dsk/c0t2d0s0 236169 113247117%   /
/dev/dsk/c0t2d0s4  17402  483462 3%   /var
/dev/dsk/c0t2d0s6  10889  249847 4%   /home
/dev/dsk/c0t2d0s71228172 429298022%   /app

[b]# df[/b]
(/dev/dsk/c0t2d0s7 ): 9421206 blocks  4292980 files

Additional information .

I can touch a file
I can make a file no larger than 7k but can create multiple files examples :-

[b]# mkfile 8198k testf[/b]
Could not set length of testf: No space left on device

[b]# mkfile 7k testf
# mkfile 7k testf1
# mkfile 7k testf2
# mkfile 7k testf3
# mkfile 7k testf4[/b]

[b]# ls -lart[/b]
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf1
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf2
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf3
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf4

Not sure if this is connected but the 'T' sticky bit is on which restricts 
execution right? But on running the following command the /app directory does 
not have a sticky bit set ?
[b]# find / -type d -perm -1000[/b]

I also executed fsck which reported no errors:-
[b]# fsck /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s7[/b]

Regards
SRG
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-26 Thread Casper . Dik


[b]# ls -lart[/b]
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf1
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf2
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf3
-rw--T   1 root root7168 Jun 26 10:02 testf4

Not sure if this is connected but the 'T' sticky bit is on which restricts 
execution right? But on
 running the following command the /app directory does not have a sticky bit 
set ?
[b]# find / -type d -perm -1000[/b]

I also executed fsck which reported no errors:-
[b]# fsck /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s7[/b]


I don't want the errors, I wanted the summary line it prints.

But the information you have given is sufficient to determine that the
filesystem is fragmented: there are no full blocks available.

The only way out, I'm afraid, is backup, newfs, switch on space 
optimization and then restore.

Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  i find iconv.h both in /opt/csw/lib and
  /usr/local/lib.
  i didn't know how to add  LD_LIBRARY_PATH .
 is it edit /etc/profile,add line:
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
  i have add this,but no use.

  I would advise not to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  Rather set your LDFLAGS -L and 
 -R paths
 before compiling.  And your going to have to make up your mind on a single 
 environment
 path you want to compile against.  Your mixing too many environments.

I strongly recommend not to use LDFLAGS as LDFLAGS overwrites any -L / -R flag 
used inside the Makefiles.

People who did have success with LDFLAGS, tend to put it into their every day 
environment. If you do this, you cannot compile any of my programs corectly.
What happens in such a case is that flags like -L$(SRCROOT)/libs/$(ARCHDIR)/
are overwritten and the code does not get linked against the recently compiled
libs that come with the project but against old libs that are installed on 
the system.


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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-26 Thread Steve
Thanks for your help Casper .

Sorry about the verbose post but I thought as much info as possible would help!

Thanks Again!
SRG
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Bob Palowoda
 Bob Palowoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   i find iconv.h both in /opt/csw/lib and
   /usr/local/lib.
   i didn't know how to add  LD_LIBRARY_PATH .
  is it edit /etc/profile,add line:
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
   i have add this,but no use.
 
   I would advise not to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  Rather
 set your LDFLAGS -L and -R paths
  before compiling.  And your going to have to make
 up your mind on a single environment
  path you want to compile against.  Your mixing too
 many environments.
 
 I strongly recommend not to use LDFLAGS as LDFLAGS
 overwrites any -L / -R flag 
 used inside the Makefiles.
 
 People who did have success with LDFLAGS, tend to put
 it into their every day 
 environment. If you do this, you cannot compile any
 of my programs corectly.
 What happens in such a case is that flags like
 -L$(SRCROOT)/libs/$(ARCHDIR)/
 are overwritten and the code does not get linked
 against the recently compiled
 libs that come with the project but against old libs
 that are installed on 
 the system.
 

 Developers use old libs?

---Bob
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Kernel message 'out of disk space' ?

2007-06-26 Thread Casper . Dik

Thanks for your help Casper .

Sorry about the verbose post but I thought as much info as possible would help!


Almost not verbose enough. though.

Casper

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[osol-discuss] /usr in none-global zone is read-only system?!

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
i continue to install php,gmake 's problem is resolved.
but when i implement gmake install, system warning that /usr is read-only 
system.can't copy file to there?!
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: /usr in none-global zone is read-only system?!

2007-06-26 Thread yoyo
but install will
cp .libs/libphp5.so /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
..

i try to chmod +w /usr,but /usr can't be modified.what can i do?
in global zone i install php successful.
 
 
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[osol-discuss] ZFS test suite released on OpenSolaris.org

2007-06-26 Thread Jim Walker
The ZFS test suite is being released today on OpenSolaris.org along with
the Solaris Test Framework (STF), Checkenv and Runwattr test tools.

The source tarball, binary package and baseline can be downloaded from the test
consolidation download center at http://dlc.sun.com/osol/test/downloads/current.
And, the source code can be viewed in the Solaris Test Collection (STC) 2.0
source tree at: 
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/test/ontest-stc2/src/suites/zfs.

The STF, Checkenv and Runwattr packages must be installed prior to executing
a ZFS test run. More information is available in the ZFS README file and on the
ZFS test suite webpage at: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/zfstestsuite.

Any questions about the ZFS test suite can be sent to zfs discuss at:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/discussions.
Any questions about STF, and the test tools can be sent to testing discuss at: 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/testing/discussions.

Happy Hunting,
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: /usr in none-global zone is read-only system?!

2007-06-26 Thread Dick Davies

Install it into /opt.


On 26/06/07, yoyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

but install will
cp .libs/libphp5.so /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
..

i try to chmod +w /usr,but /usr can't be modified.what can i do?
in global zone i install php successful.


/usr is shared from the global zone and is supposed to be read-only.
Can you install to /opt instead?

Pass --prefix=/opt to your configure script.


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[osol-discuss] mount question

2007-06-26 Thread Doug
I am trying to troubleshoot an existing script and have located the point of 
failure. Before I make any changes I need to know what the bolded entry is 
doing/for:

mount /dev/dsk/$disk /mnt [b]2/dev/null[/b]

I know that if I leave it off everything will work, but does anyone have an 
idea what the bolded part is trying to do?

Thx!
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Re: [osol-discuss] Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-26 Thread Steven Sim

Dave;

Every executable or library already loaded into memory has a backing 
store attached to them, anonymous or otherwise. Executables in memory 
have a backing store which naturally points back to the original binary 
executable (or library) file on disk (file system), referenced in memory 
by the vnode, then translated to the actual inode.


If you mount in place a similar file image on top of the original, would 
not the in memory file reference (e.g. vnode/inode) be different? It's 
on a different file system after all.


Forgive me, but I fail to see how a mount in place can help protect the 
original, much less increase the stability of the system.


I readily concede that the newly developed system properly works, since 
it has now been tested and released by Sun. But I was hoping if Sun or 
the folks here could provide a more detailed explanation.


Also, does the procedure require the administrator to undertake any 
special steps? Or would it be completely transparent to the admin?


Warmest Regards
Steven Sim

Dave Miner wrote:

Steven Sim wrote:

Folks;

Today Sun BIG ADMIN website posted an article by Lynne Thompson 
entitled What's New in Patching 


See http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/sundocs/articles/patch-wn.jsp

Could somebody here elaborate more on the following statement

.Now, deferred-activation patching uses the loopback file 
system (lofs) to ensure the stability of the running system. When a 
patch is applied to the running system, the lofs preserves stability 
during the patching process. These large kernel patches have always 
required a reboot, but now the required reboot activates the changes 
made by the lofs...


It's a bit confusing..especially the part about lofs preserves 
stability during the patching process




Hopefully I can get one of those who actually did the work to post a 
blog entry about it.  Anyway, the executables and libraries which need 
to remain stable during the entire duration of the patching 
application and would be affected by the patch operation are copied 
into a temporary location, lofs is used to mount them up into the 
original location, and then we can patch the originals without 
adversely affecting the binaries in use.  You must reboot at the end 
of such a patch application to get the system back into a consistent 
state.


Live Upgrade for patching is still recommended, since it's at least as 
safe and doesn't require quiescing the system to apply such patches, 
but this provides an alternative when that is not an option.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Error on compiling php on SOLARIS 10

2007-06-26 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 03:06, yoyo wrote:

  Undefined  symbol first referenced in file
  libiconv_close  ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  libiconv_open   ext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  libiconvext/iconv/.libs/iconv.o
  ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to
 sapi/cli/php
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 
   gmake: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1

 I have set
 path=/opt/csw/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:
/usr/dt/bin:/usr/ccs/bin and install package libiconv1.9.2 from
 BlastWave,but error still exist.i don't know what's wrong :(

You aren't building the iconv.so PHP extension as a shared extension, 
it is statically linked into the PHP executable. So, you need to link 
the PHP executable against GNU libiconv which you downloaded from 
Blastwave (and maybe also libintl), by adding this to EXTRA_LIBS in 
PHP's Makefile:

-liconv -lintl

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: /usr in none-global zone is read-only system?!

2007-06-26 Thread James Carlson
yoyo writes:
 but install will
 cp .libs/libphp5.so /usr/apache2/libexec/libphp5.so
 Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
 Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
 Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
 Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
 Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
 ..
 
 i try to chmod +w /usr,but /usr can't be modified.what can i do?
 in global zone i install php successful.

There are two models for non-global zones, termed sparse root and
whole root.

In the sparse root model -- the default for zonecfg's create -- the
zone's configuration includes /lib, /platform, /sbin, and /usr as
inherit-pkg-dir entries.  This means that these four directories are
mounted as read-only copies (lofs) of the global zone.  As documented
in the zonecfg(1M) man page:

 inherit-pkg-dir

 Directory inherited from the global zone. Software pack-
 ages  whose  contents  have  been  transferred into that
 directory are inherited in read-only mode  by  the  non-
 global zone and the non-global zone's packaging database
 is updated to reflect those packages. Such resources are
 not  modifiable  or  removable  once  a  zone  has  been
 installed with zoneadm.

In the whole root model -- create -b -- you get your own local,
writable file systems in the non-global zone, but at the expense of
copying everything over.  It's much slower to create and manage zones
like that.

An alternative is to make /usr/local writable inside the zone by
adding an explicit lofs mount of read-write storage.  In fact, in
searching on google for this very issue, the Zones FAQ is the first
hit, and it has this entry:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq/#cfg_io_usrlocal

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[osol-discuss] Re: [storage-discuss] Installing nws-src-20070529 on Opensolaris (build 65)

2007-06-26 Thread Charles Baker

Hi Udayan,

This is to follow up with the storage-discuss community about your question.

The problem you encountered was a full file system. 


The OS/Net README has no indication of the disk size requirements needed
to download and build.

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/README.opensolaris

I've added opensolaris-discuss to this thread to see if the README
can be updated.

thanks
Charles





Udayan Singh wrote:


Hi Charles/All,

 

During the extraction process of the software package named 
on-src-b65.tar.bz2 on the open solaris (snv-65)  the system rebooted 
automatically in the middle of the process .Now the problem is  that 
the restarter(SMF-8000-5H) is not running .


We executed fsck and did yes for all the options. Now we are again 
able to startup and get the login screen. But now the following is the 
error statement that we are getting after we login to the welcome screen.


*/etc/x11/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp 
and utmp*


*/etc/x11/gdm/PreSession/Default: running : /usr/openwin/bin/sessreg 
–a –w /var/log/wtmp –u/var/run/utmp –x”var/lib/gdm/:0.x servers” “ -h“ 
1”:0 “root” write wtmpx entry :No space left on the device*.


 


  So please suggest some way to tackle this problem .


tia,
Udayan

 



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Re: [storage-discuss] Installing nws-src-20070529 on Opensolaris 
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Hi Udayan,

Your question does not make sense.  All the package dependencies were 
met by your initial
OS installation.  The current dependencies are build time.  You must 
download and build
the OS/Net source first and then set the ON_REF_GATE and other 
necessary variables in

the opennws.env file.

ON_REF_GATE
This variable is used by the sources makefiles only.  It is needed 
to define the location
of the built ON for OpenSolaris workspace. 

The matching date stamp between the OS/Net and NWS source drops as 
listed in the
ReleaseNotes file is correct.  In your case, there are not any 
interface changes that

would affect the build.

thanks
Charles



Udayan Singh wrote:


Hi Charles,

Thanks :).. I hope any package that is required (dependency) for 
installation of NWS (on OpenSolaris) is freely available..


I would suggest a minor update in the documentation in the release 
notes for NWS i.e. building with the same or newer stamp date.


Whom can we inform about the same ? Or aany procedure by which it can 
be updated ?


Regards,


Udayan

 
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Opensolaris (build65)
 


Hi Udayan,

Building the nws source requires that you first build the OS/Net 
source.  You will want
a date stamp on the OS/Net source that is the same or newer than the 
nws date stamp.


_http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/_

Use the link above to get the clear OS/Net source.

thanks
Charles




Udayan Singh wrote:
Hi All,

We are using opensolaris (platform version is b65 on i86) operating 
system and were installing package nws-src-20070529 from the link 
_http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nws/_  , but are having some 
issues in installing it. we have gone through the Release Notes from 
the link   
 _http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/storage/ReleaseNotes.txt_ 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/storage/ReleaseNotes.txtand 
it says that first we have to install the version of on-src-DATE 
that matches with nws-src-DATE but we are not able to find the 
matching version of on-src-DATE i.e. on-src-20070529, on opensolaris 
site (also would like to download the source package using one of the 
http links and not use mercurial).


Tia,
Udayan
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[osol-discuss] Re: mount question

2007-06-26 Thread Gueven Bay
 I am trying to troubleshoot an existing script and
 have located the point of failure. Before I make any
 changes I need to know what the bolded entry is
 doing/for:
 
 mount /dev/dsk/$disk /mnt [b]2/dev/null[/b]
 
 I know that if I leave it off everything will work,
 but does anyone have an idea what the bolded part is
 trying to do?

Yup, it tries to guide you to opsol-help (the forum/mailing list)
where you can post as many help requests as you want.

Enough for constructive, helpful trolling.

Back to your question:
The 2 is the descriptor for the error output (stderr).
The  is redirecting all things to the following channel or file.
The /dev/null is a device which is something like a black hole in your unix 
system.

So, every error message is redirected into nothing.
 
 
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[osol-discuss] PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread William James

On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Therefore, as a leader in this project :

 I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
 this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
 below :

YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org

 NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week



I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you

Cheers,
William
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Re: [osol-discuss] Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-26 Thread Dave Miner

Lu, Baolu wrote:

Hopefully I can get one of those who actually did the work to post
a blog entry about it.  Anyway, the executables and libraries which
need to remain stable during the entire duration of the patching
application and would be affected by the patch operation are copied
into a temporary location, lofs is used to mount them up into the
original location, and then we can patch the originals without
adversely affecting the binaries


How can the originals be accessed while another file system mounting
on its dir? In my understanding, the originals will be covered by the
new mounted file system until it is umounted.



The original root is also loopback mounted into another alternate root 
so that it can be operated on.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-26 Thread Dave Miner

Bob Palowoda wrote:

Steven Sim wrote:

Folks;

Today Sun BIG ADMIN website posted an article by

Lynne Thompson entitled

What's New in Patching 

See

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/sundocs/articles/patch-wn. jsp

Could somebody here elaborate more on the following

statement

.Now, deferred-activation patching uses

the loopback file

system (lofs) to ensure the stability of the

running system. When a

patch is applied to the running system, the lofs

preserves stability

during the patching process. These large kernel

patches have always

required a reboot, but now the required reboot

activates the changes

made by the lofs...

It's a bit confusing..especially the part about

lofs preserves

stability during the patching process


Hopefully I can get one of those who actually did the work to post
a blog entry about it.  Anyway, the executables and libraries which
need to remain stable during the entire duration of the patching
application and would be affected by the patch operation are copied
into a temporary location, lofs is used to mount them up into the 
original location, and then we can patch the originals without

adversely affecting the binaries in use.  You must reboot at the
end of such a patch application to get the system back into a
consistent state.

Live Upgrade for patching is still recommended, since it's at least
as safe and doesn't require quiescing the system to apply such
patches, but this provides an alternative when that is not an 
option.




Is this the new patching scheme that is going to be open sourced for
project Indiana?



No, it is a Solaris 10-specific solution and is expected to remain there.

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Re: [osol-discuss] PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Stephen Lau

William James wrote:

On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Therefore, as a leader in this project :

 I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
 this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
 below :

YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org

 NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week



I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you


Sun did no such thing.

You can not force a person to do anything they either can't or won't do. 
  You can't force Sun to contribute work any more than Sun can force 
you to.  If Sun isn't contributing work to the PowerPC effort, fine, 
there is no stopping you from doing work on opensolaris.org without Sun. 
 There are plenty of projects (including platform ports) going on that 
aren't involving Sun in any way.


How does forking your own project on sourceforge.net give you anything 
you couldn't have done on opensolaris.org with or without Sun?


In any case, yes - it's unfortunate that in this PowerPC Platform Port 
case, Sun isn't contributing as openly as it could be.  But again, there 
is no dependency here.  I fail to see what you could do on sf.net that 
you couldn't do on os.o.


cheers,
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Re: [osol-discuss] PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith

William James wrote:

On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Therefore, as a leader in this project :

 I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
 this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
 below :

YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org

 NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week



I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you


I still see absolutely no reason for this - you can do everything you want
on opensolaris.org - what are you missing here that you think sourceforge
will give you?


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[osol-discuss] Re: PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Brian D. Horn

William James wrote:

On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Therefore, as a leader in this project :

 I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
 this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
 below :

YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org

 NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week



I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you

Cheers,
William
So, question.  Did anyone even look at the updates or were they just 
ignored?

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[osol-discuss] Re: Deferred Patching Scheme

2007-06-26 Thread mario heimel
i have a question to the following statement:

All non-global zones must be in a halted state for this patch operation. You 
must halt the non-global zone before applying the patch

typically during the installation of a patchluster the zones must be in 
single-user or mounted state, but what happens with a few deferred-activation 
patches scattered in the patchcluster, does patchadd handle this smoothly or 
must i break the patchcluster in pieces ?

thanks mario
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Shawn Walker

On 26/06/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Therefore, as a leader in this project :
 
  I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
  this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
  below :
 
 YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org
 
  NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

 I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week


I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you


I would strongly discourage you from this action. I still don't
understand why you have to go to sourceforge instead of simply asking
for a community here to sponsor the creation of a project so you can
use the resources we already have in place.

Besides, sourceforge is dog-slow...

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[osol-discuss] New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread David T Knowles
Hello, I just joined this forum. I'm a Linux user, but have always wanted to 
try an integrated, full implementation of SysV. My question pertains to the 
download of the community express edition. As stated on Sun's website, you need 
to register for free downloads. However, the registration process asks for some 
more personal information than I anticpated (real address, etc). The FAQ says 
this is because of export restrictions. However, it is still about murky on the 
subject. Am I going to be bombarded with marketing material in the mail or 
billed at a later date to cover some hidden cost for downloads after 
registering?
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Cyril Plisko

On 6/26/07, Brian D. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

William James wrote:
 On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Therefore, as a leader in this project :
 
  I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
  this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
  below :
 
 YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org
 
  NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

 I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in one week


 I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
 Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

 PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you

 Cheers,
 William
So, question.  Did anyone even look at the updates or were they just
ignored?


updates ? plural ? I must be missing something important, cause I remember
only one code drop last October.



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Re: [osol-discuss] mount question

2007-06-26 Thread Jack Schwartz

Hi Doug.

It quiets error messages by routing stderr to the bit bucket.

   Thanks,
   Jack

Doug wrote:

I am trying to troubleshoot an existing script and have located the point of 
failure. Before I make any changes I need to know what the bolded entry is 
doing/for:

mount /dev/dsk/$disk /mnt [b]2/dev/null[/b]

I know that if I leave it off everything will work, but does anyone have an 
idea what the bolded part is trying to do?

Thx!
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Brian D. Horn

Cyril Plisko wrote:

On 6/26/07, Brian D. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

William James wrote:
 On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Therefore, as a leader in this project :
 
  I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
  this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
  below :
 
 YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org
 
  NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.

 I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in 
one week



 I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
 Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris

 PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you

 Cheers,
 William
So, question.  Did anyone even look at the updates or were they just
ignored?


updates ? plural ? I must be missing something important, cause I 
remember

only one code drop last October.

Tom has done a huge amount of updates to the web sites and
created a new OpenSolaris repository with some (but not all)
of the work done since last October.  I was under the impression that
people were looking at that stuff.




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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: PPlaris, the Opensolaris fork (was: Re: Kill PPC port? (was: Re: [powerpc-discuss] Re: Re: Code drop?)

2007-06-26 Thread Bruno Jargot

On 6/26/07, Brian D. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cyril Plisko wrote:
 On 6/26/07, Brian D. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William James wrote:
  On 6/17/07, William James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 5/31/07, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Therefore, as a leader in this project :
  
   I call for a vote of the members of this project to terminate
   this project at OpenSolaris.org.  Please indicate a YES or NO
   below :
  
  YES [  ]  -   kill this project at OpenSolaris.org
  
   NO [  ]  -   no .. not yet.  Let's work this out.
 
  I propose YES if Sun Labs does not provide a source snapshot in
 one week
 
 
  I am going to submit the project proposal to sourceforge this evening.
  Proposed new name of this fork is PPlaris
 
  PS: Thank you, Sun, for forcing us to fork your own project. Thank you
 
  Cheers,
  William
 So, question.  Did anyone even look at the updates or were they just
 ignored?

 updates ? plural ? I must be missing something important, cause I
 remember
 only one code drop last October.
Tom has done a huge amount of updates to the web sites and
created a new OpenSolaris repository with some (but not all)
of the work done since last October.  I was under the impression that
people were looking at that stuff.


No one will notice changes on the web pages until they either stumble
over the new pages by accident or when you do an announcement.
Opensolaris has no usable notification system for web pages and the
forum notification is worse than useless (your forum has been
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Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 07:30:42PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:

 Hmm... but I *can* imagine bounties for development effort being 
 offered.  As well as SoC type sponsorships.  Those kinds of effort are 
 very useful, and cost far far less than actually hiring a well paid 
 engineer.

There are places people can already go to do this.  It doesn't need to
be sponsored by the OGB, just as a company doesn't need the OGB's
blessing to hire someone to work on OpenSolaris.  This all seems much
ado about nothing.  If you want to post a bounty for something, go
ahead and do it.  We could also, I suppose, kill this thread and go
write code ourselves.  Maybe that's too radical a way to get work
done, though.

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[osol-discuss] PowerPC Project : Calm down people please

2007-06-26 Thread Dennis Clarke

I am always amazed at what a powderkeg of emotions we have around the
OpenSolaris.org project.

It seems as if the slightest sparc sets off an explozone of some sort.

Now then, the issue on the table is simple :

There is a PowerPC Community and a PowerPC Project space on
OpenSolaris.org but one of them is defunct and the other is clearly not.
 One of them needs to go.  Let's not get into a quandry over the fact
that there are code updates in the CVS that no one has seen or noticed
and instead focus on simply reducing the PowerPC port project web spaces
down to a reasonable number.  Specifically we need to simply take the
PowerPC Community web space and fold its contents into the PowerPC
Project space.

No, I don't understand the issue over Project versus Community either
and that is a long standing problem that can be fixed over time.  I do
know that Steven Lau has noticed a 1 to 1 relationship between the
content on the Community pages and the Project pages.  So let's cull one
of them.

On the other matter, if someone wants to run off to Siberia and setup a
web space to run a PowerPC port of OpenSolaris and call it emo-PPlaris
then no one is stopping you.  The PowerPC ( Polaris ) project can stay
where it is at just fine thank you at OpenSolaris.org and then we can
work all other issues out with reason and sound argument.

-
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[osol-discuss] Belenix and automount /mnt/solaris0

2007-06-26 Thread Andre Lue
Greets,

Apologies if this is the wrong forum for this.

I was wondering if anyone knows how belenix automounts slices to /mnt/solarisX 
? Is there a parallel in opensolaris?

thanks
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Belenix and automount /mnt/solaris0

2007-06-26 Thread Shawn Walker

On 26/06/07, Andre Lue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greets,

Apologies if this is the wrong forum for this.

I was wondering if anyone knows how belenix automounts slices to /mnt/solarisX 
? Is there a parallel in opensolaris?



Don't know, but you might ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread Christopher Mahan

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 No, but it would be nice if www.opensolaris.org and the servers
 that support it and its source code were not at Sun but in some
 data center.
 
 Sun going bust shouldn't disrupt OpenSolaris.  Whether or not
 that will ever happen, who knows, but the two shouldn't be joined
 at the hip.

Not only would it be nice, it would be outstanding.

Chris Mahan
818.943.1850 cell
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[osol-discuss] The OpenSolaris Numbers Game (Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread Darren . Reed

Brian Gupta wrote:


 I don't know that there are as many
 open source artists, do you?

Have you been to Creative Commons lately? Wikipedia? Flickr? I don't
write code, but I write words in blogs and presentations and I take
thousands of photos and I give all of it away under the CC license. And
the last I checked, I'm not the only one.



Well? Was someone paid to design the Linux Penguin logos? (No)

I think that with a community of approximately 60,000 people, you
would be able to find at least one artist. (Possibly 100s)



The 60,000 number has been artificially inflated and as an
indication of what it really means, at a recent meeting inside Sun,
we were encouraged to sign up pets, family members (mothers,
fathers, grandparents, etc) to increase the numbers so that we
actually reached that milestone.  Sounds to me like someone's
bonus is dependent on that number being reached.

Signing people up like that doesn't create community members
who are productive and interactive, it just creates a higher number
for the purpose of statistical counting.

I'm tempted to make some overgeneralisation about America and
how quantity is seen by many to be more important than quality
and all the evils that go with that.

Darren


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[osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread Gueven Bay
Welcome davek,

I am also registered and I never got spam like mails
because of that.

If you just want to circumvent the reg then go to genunix.org
and download Belenix 0.6 (the recent release) and 
learn with it.

Don't worry, Belenix is true OpenSolaris, so you will learn SysV
with it. But for your ease of use it has many GNU tools on it.


Have fun.





PS: I really, really don't want to bug you as you are new here but
for the sake of clean forums/mailing lists: Please, if you have
questions or some problems later knowledge wise or usage wise with 
(Open)Solaris/Belenix then, please go to opsol-help. 
The help requests in opsol-discuss are not belonging there.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] PowerPC Project : Calm down people please

2007-06-26 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes:
 There is a PowerPC Community and a PowerPC Project space on
 OpenSolaris.org but one of them is defunct and the other is clearly not.
  One of them needs to go.  Let's not get into a quandry over the fact
 that there are code updates in the CVS that no one has seen or noticed
 and instead focus on simply reducing the PowerPC port project web spaces
 down to a reasonable number.  Specifically we need to simply take the
 PowerPC Community web space and fold its contents into the PowerPC
 Project space.

Yep.  Get rid of the community unless it's doing something useful.  If
there's only one actual project involved, then I'd argue that the
community isn't useful.  (It's entirely possible that, like dtrace,
PPC becomes a community _after_ it delivers a project, so that it can
guide future development.)

I'd imagine that the existing Appliances and OS/Net communities
would be nearly ideal for endorsing the existing PPC project.

 On the other matter, if someone wants to run off to Siberia and setup a
 web space to run a PowerPC port of OpenSolaris and call it emo-PPlaris
 then no one is stopping you.

Indeed.  Knock yerself out.  It'd be nice, though, if those feeling
the urge to fork didn't also feel the need to report their misery back
here.  That's sort of annoying.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris

2007-06-26 Thread Christopher Mahan

--- Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Of course we've been rude. We cut up marketing. We tare down
 lawyers. We 
 laugh at executives. We attack other communities and ourselves.
 This is 
 all accepted behavior in the OpenSolaris community. I've even been
 told 
 privately that this is healthy. It's not. I reject it. Now, for
 every 
 foolish thing we say, I can find equally foolish things other 
 communities (and companies) have said as well.

Jim, I respectfully disagree with you: It's messy, it's disorganized,
it's confusing and it's not summarized in an executive statement, but
all the wrangling is completely healthy.

 But what I do find fascinating is that for all the attacks on
 marketing, 
 the marketing list is generally flame-less. And so is the user
 group 
 community list. That's one of the reasons I suggested merging those
 
 communities. I felt that there was a lot of overlap in those
 communities 
 in terms of people and in terms of issues, so why not combine
 forces and 
 expand our voice? Imagine a community where attacks are /not/
 acceptable 
 and outside the norm. That's my vision for the Advocacy CG.

This is not The Stepford Wives, or rather, The Stepford Programmers.
Marketing and Legal do not a working distro make. That takes geeks
who stay up late worrying about arcane, wizardish, fiendishly complex
issues and who, out of their love for mankind and the semi-weekly
paycheck, work hard at solving these unsurmountable problems. That
these same people don't have the polish and gentle demeanor of
ivy-league graduates should not surprise you. These people were
outcasts in general society, preferring the dank dungeons of solitude
to pep rallies and after-parties.

You get them talking about their trade, and the uninitiated will be
greeted by unseemly grunts and scratching of beards, and will not
understand that the jabbing and eye-poking and name-calling is the
way these cave-dwellers communicate most effectively.

Of course, the sophisticated society would love to never have to
encounter much less discuss anything with these programmers, but then
they'd have to settle for no software being written.

Maybe now you'll understand the saying that managing people is like
herding cats: it's messy, and there's a lot of yelling involved, and
an occasional boot in the back of the pants. 

Welcome to open-source software development.

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Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread John Plocher

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't anyone in the least bit interested seeing OpenSolaris
actually be able to employ people or pay for things itself
rather than depend on the good will of Sun to do it all?



At this point, with all the backlog of things that need to get done
to make things work logistically, I'd have to say no, I'm not the least
bit interested in having the OGB, the ON community, the gatekeepers,
the Hg repository team, the web infrastructure team or the ARC community
(to name a few) spend any significant effort on it at this time.  These
people are already spread way too thin to take on the significant
additional effort needed to create and manage a 501c.

Having said that, if /you/ are interested and motivated, feel free
to do the legwork yourself.  Be a leader, form a consensus, do the
research, etc.  Remember, actions speak louder than words.  Even mine :-)

  -John

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Re: OpenSolaris as a seperate entity to Sun (Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Burlison

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No, but it would be nice if www.opensolaris.org and the servers
that support it and its source code were not at Sun but in some
data center.


http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2007-June/001683.html

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread Shawn Walker

On 26/06/07, David T Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you. Big help. My problem currently with a lot of Linux distributions is they seem 
to be moving away from the Unixy sort of environment. I was particularly 
dissatisfied with the new Debian Etch, as it comes with a bunch of crap enabled 
(AppleTalk? Who uses that!), as well as a heavily modified version of init that no longer 
conforms to the SysV standards. The same is true for Fedora, and Slackware. I would put 
together my own Distro, but lack the time.



Welcome to the community David.

I should warn you that Solaris is moving away from Sys V init as well
in the long term to a better system known as SMF This new technology
is part of Solaris' self-healing technology. Find out more about it
here:

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/selfheal/

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/selfheal/smf-quickstart.html

You may also find the SMF manifest repository here to be rather
helpful in developing your own:
http://www.blastwave.org/smf/manifests.php

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[osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread David T Knowles
Not that GNU init ever did fully conform, but the debian design seemed to 
mimick the behavior somewhat.
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread David T Knowles
Thank you. Big help. My problem currently with a lot of Linux distributions is 
they seem to be moving away from the Unixy sort of environment. I was 
particularly dissatisfied with the new Debian Etch, as it comes with a bunch of 
crap enabled (AppleTalk? Who uses that!), as well as a heavily modified version 
of init that no longer conforms to the SysV standards. The same is true for 
Fedora, and Slackware. I would put together my own Distro, but lack the time.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: New to Solaris

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Burlison

Shawn Walker wrote:


You may also find the SMF manifest repository here to be rather
helpful in developing your own:
http://www.blastwave.org/smf/manifests.php


I notice you don't seem to have tone for Tomcat, there's one I wrote 
here: http://blogs.sun.com/alanbur/resource/tomcat_manifest.xml


The neat thing is that the manifest uses LeastPriv to grant the Tomcat 
user the right to open privileged ports - but only for the duration of 
the service methods.  If you log in directly as the Tomcat user you 
don't have the net_privaddr privilege.  This means you can safely run 
Tomcat on port 80 without having to resort to any of the vile hacks you 
need on Linux - see http://www.linux.org.mt/article/tomcat-ports.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-26 Thread Eric Saxe

Bob Palowoda wrote:

  Ah this does sound encouraging.  Though it's still confusing why
the download page says Solarisx86 and points to a Sparc version.
It did at one time point to x86 versions.  But maybe this an Adobe
web page problem.  
  
I've been going back and forth with Adobe support on this one trying to 
get the link fixed.

So far, it's been rather painful.

-Eric
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[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris PAC?

2007-06-26 Thread Darren . Reed

Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris.  As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.

Is there any thought that the same will (or will not :) be
needed for OpenSolaris?

And/or what should OpenSolaris be doing to work with
the Solaris PAC?

Do we wait for Sun to come out and say hello?

What should OpenSolaris do if the Solaris PAC says
no to something we want in OpenSolaris (given that
going into nevada is the only way to get there at
present)?  Or vice versa, if the Solaris PAC said
yes to something that OpenSolaris doesn't want?

Should we have a [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Darren

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris PAC?

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris.  As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.

Is there any thought that the same will (or will not :) be
needed for OpenSolaris?


We've discussed this a few months ago, but since you're
apparently just coming to the table now with all these
questions...

I'm not sure we need a PAC per se - it's about product
definition and requirements (though perhaps Indiana will
have a PAC-like body for it).

What I think we will need is an OpenSolaris W-Team,
analogous to the Solaris P-Team (though using the
older name indicating it's the WOS team, instead of
the product team) - a place where all the C-Teams
send representatives to coordinate cross-consolidation
issues  projects, like determining which compilers
are to be supported by all the consolidations, what
the build schedules are (build number N occurs on
which date?) or implementing things like Secure-by-Default
across all the consolidations uniformly.   I'd like to do
even a better job here than the Solaris P-Team has,
where things like SMF conversion are still hit and
miss as to which C-Teams have done it yet, and some
consolidations build with no-exec stacks and others
don't.


What should OpenSolaris do if the Solaris PAC says
no to something we want in OpenSolaris (given that
going into nevada is the only way to get there at
present)?  Or vice versa, if the Solaris PAC said
yes to something that OpenSolaris doesn't want?


The Solaris PAC is free to fork the OpenSolaris source
tree to create a Solaris product with whatever changes
they do or do not want, and will almost certainly have
to do so at some point.   That they haven't planned for
this is a sign how little they've thought about what
OpenSolaris really means to the way Solaris is built.

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Re: [osol-discuss] The OpenSolaris Numbers Game (Re: [advocacy-discuss] Re: Logo/Mascot for OpenSolaris)

2007-06-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The 60,000 number has been artificially inflated and as an
indication of what it really means, at a recent meeting inside Sun,
we were encouraged to sign up pets, family members (mothers,
fathers, grandparents, etc) to increase the numbers so that we
actually reached that milestone.  Sounds to me like someone's
bonus is dependent on that number being reached.


It is, and various people have complained about using that as
a bonus goal inside Sun, and the complaints have fallen on
deaf ears.   I've wondered what would happen if we changed the
OpenSolaris web site to get rid of the registration process
or changed it in such a way to make it clear that this is not
the intended purpose.   (I've also wondered what the limits are
on the size of the user database and efficiency of the web app -
how long until this turns from metrics manipulation into a
Denial of Service attack against the OpenSolaris web site?)

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris PAC?

2007-06-26 Thread Darren . Reed

Alan Coopersmith wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Inside Sun, there is a committee known as the
Product Approval Committee that has oversight
of what goes into Solaris.  As this also impacts
what is putback into nevada, it has oversight of
OpenSolaris too, at present.

Is there any thought that the same will (or will not :) be
needed for OpenSolaris?



We've discussed this a few months ago, but since you're
apparently just coming to the table now with all these
questions...



I suspected as much, but searching for PAC is not an
especially productive thing to do.


...


I'd like to do
even a better job here than the Solaris P-Team has,
where things like SMF conversion are still hit and
miss as to which C-Teams have done it yet, and some
consolidations build with no-exec stacks and others
don't.



This is good.

Thanks.

Darren

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[osol-discuss] REMINDER: FROSUG June Meeting Announcement (6/28/2007)

2007-06-26 Thread Jim Walker
This month's FROSUG (Front Range OpenSolaris User Group) meeting is on
Thursday, June 28, 2007. Bonnie Corwin will give an OpenSolaris Engineering
Update. In addition, we will be celebrating the 2-year OpenSolaris anniversary!
We will have cake :)

!! FREE OpenSolaris Starter Kits and Solaris Express Developer Edition DVDs. !!

About the presentation:
The OpenSolaris Engineering Team Update will include information on the
following areas:
- New Open Code/Communities/Projects/Contributions
- New Country Portals
- New OGB Processes
- Source Code Management: moving to Mercurial
- Website: operational infrastructure and open sourcing application code

The presentation will be posted on http://frosug.org prior to the meeting.

About our presenter:
Bonnie Corwin is a Senior Engineering Manager at Sun Microsystems and the
OpenSolaris Engineering Team manager. She has worked at Sun for 15 years in
various software engineering and management roles. The OpenSolaris Engineering
Team investigated the feasibility of opening the Solaris source code, ran the
pre-launch OpenSolaris Pilot program and executed the launch of OpenSolaris.
It currently manages the OpenSolaris site infrastructure including site hosting
operations and website applications and supports key community activities
including the OpenSolaris governance process and elections, OpenSolaris code
contributions, bug tracking, source code management, country portals, the
OpenSolaris Starter Kit and conferences.

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Meeting Details:

When: Thursday, June 28, 2007

Times:
6:00pm - 6:30pm Doors open and Pizza
6:30pm - 6:45pm OpenSolaris 2-year Anniversary Celebration
6:45pm - 8:30pm OpenSolaris Engineering Update

Where:
Sun Broomfield Campus
Building 1 - Conference Center
500 Eldorado Blvd.
Broomfield, CO 80021

Dialin: 866-545-5220
Access Code: 9303067

The meeting is free and open to the public.

Pizza and soft drinks will be served at the beginning of the meeting.
Please RSVP to rsvp(AT)frosug.org in order to help us plan for food
and setup access to the Sun campus.

We hope to see you there!
Thanks,
FROSUG

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Future Meeting Plans:

If you have ideas for topics or have a topic you would like to present,
send them to: ug-frosug(AT)opensolaris(DOT)org
 
 
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[osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK

2007-06-26 Thread Anne
All
 
I have a T1000 SPARC server with the Solaris install files already located
on the hard drives (somewhere). 
 
Does anyone know how I can wipe my current installation of Solaris 10 and
install a fresh copy from the install files
that are already located on the Sparc drives?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Anne
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RE: [osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK

2007-06-26 Thread Anne
Hi Robert, well I have to say there definitely is a way to install it from
the pre-built-in files because that's how I did it originally, a year+ ago,
(but cannot remember how in the world I did it). Basically there is a way to
do it from the openboot prompt, but my mind is drawing a huge blank.
(Basically the SUN folks did what the DELL folks did and put the entire OS
install files on a small partition chunk of the hard drive, which allows
re-install the OS anytime the person wishes.)
 
Thanks for trying to help though
 
Anne

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From: Robert Escue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:54 PM
To: Anne
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK


Anne wrote: 

All
 
I have a T1000 SPARC server with the Solaris install files already located
on the hard drives (somewhere). 
 
Does anyone know how I can wipe my current installation of Solaris 10 and
install a fresh copy from the install files
that are already located on the Sparc drives?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Anne


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Anne,

There is no way I know of to use a pre-installed Solaris build as a means to
rebuild the machine that I am aware of. It is just as easy to load a Solaris
DVD and install from there, or if you are more adventurous and have a second
machine build a JumpStart server and install Solaris over the network.


Robert Escue
System Administrator

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Re: [osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK

2007-06-26 Thread Shawn Walker

On 26/06/07, Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi Robert, well I have to say there definitely is a way to install it from
the pre-built-in files because that's how I did it originally, a year+ ago,
(but cannot remember how in the world I did it). Basically there is a way to
do it from the openboot prompt, but my mind is drawing a huge blank.
(Basically the SUN folks did what the DELL folks did and put the entire OS
install files on a small partition chunk of the hard drive, which allows
re-install the OS anytime the person wishes.)


I believe this is what you are looking for:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-0211/6m6nc674s?q=re-preinstalla=view

The re-preinstall command.

--
Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright

Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
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RE: [osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK

2007-06-26 Thread Anne
Outstanding. That's exactly it. Thanks for the quick help!

Anne 

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:11 PM
To: Anne
Cc: Robert Escue; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] how to install Solaris from OK

On 26/06/07, Anne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Robert, well I have to say there definitely is a way to install it 
 from the pre-built-in files because that's how I did it originally, a 
 year+ ago, (but cannot remember how in the world I did it). Basically 
 there is a way to do it from the openboot prompt, but my mind is drawing a
huge blank.
 (Basically the SUN folks did what the DELL folks did and put the 
 entire OS install files on a small partition chunk of the hard drive, 
 which allows re-install the OS anytime the person wishes.)

I believe this is what you are looking for:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-0211/6m6nc674s?q=re-preinstalla=view

The re-preinstall command.

--
Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright

Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-26 Thread carlos antonio neira bustos
when adobe is gonna release acrobat reader for solaris x86 ?
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Flashplayer 9 Gone from Adobe Site

2007-06-26 Thread Michael Lee
When? When 3D Realms releases Duke Nukem Forever for Solaris x86.
 
 
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